The Warriors appear to have fully shifted from playing with Joy to playing with edge. The transition seemed to have started with passing on LaMelo if not before. Dunleavy left that off his list of what he was looking for but it seems to be the number one focus of the off-season
Jun 24, 2023·edited Jun 24, 2023Liked by Eric Apricot
If you are feeling down about draft (or even otherwise), I highly recommend you to listen to Larry Harris on Dubs Talk podcast. You don't need a account or such:
It comes across as a honest assessment about rooks.
Podz - Film session was off the charts (My comment: Steve and Dray are gonna love that). His grit, his determination, his IQ, ability to make open shots; DDV-esque rebounding; Already has NBA ready body - compact, strong like Jalen Brunson.
Trayce - Big, Long, Athletic, Weak side.shot blocker, if you give him a lane, he gonna finish over top over a lot of people
So, where is JK going? He's next on the chopping block. He remains the only vehicle the Warriors core would be willing to part with to get back a veteran NOT on a vet min, nor a FA. There are only x number of free agents available. The trade potential brings in a much larger group of players to choose from. If our current depth chart has rookies at 2 (bPod) and 5 (TJD), 6+ mil dedicated to your 3rd string PF doesn't make a lot of sense. A vet 2 & 4 ought to take precedence, since rookies slotted in the 2nd string doesn't jive with a win now approach. Not sure if JK is gonna be happy only playing when Dray or GP2 or Wiggs are out or non-meaningful minutes.
You and ADS have introduced a very poignant crossroad for the Warrior brass to navigate. There are always pros and cons to every situation. Whichever direction the team decides to head in, we will probably have a competitive team in the playoffs and that will satisfy many fans, even without winning a ring. What I worry about is after the next few years, without the Splash Bros. and without draft capital and developed assets at the previous level, where will the Warriors be? Poole was the first to go that had a real shot of leading this team in the future. He was the kind of scorer that the Warriors covet. JFK is not that dominant player that can take a team to the next level but he is important if developed. I don't see Moody as a leader either, perhaps an important bench player, though. Who do they turn to without money and assets for FA? If they feel Draymond is necessary for Steph, then it is Klay that has to be moved either netting a couple of younger players with a high ceiling, draft picks, or an expiring contract. You are only going to get all star level in FA, be it now or in a few years. The Warriors are used to a certain level of comfort and skill. To keep this dynasty going it will be very difficult and will require either a sacrifice or some such pain for a time to regain the lost momentum. It rests on Lacob's shoulders to see to all of this. I can only sit back and watch and see how this plays out. It's going to be interesting, to be sure.
I mean, San Antonio's "two timelines" thing relied on getting the #1 pick in a year when everyone knew there was a potential all-time great at the top of the draft (Duncan would have gone #1 either of the two prior years, had he declared sooner).
We had the #2 pick, in a year without an obvious superstar, and whiffed it. Them's the breaks. On top of that we found our Manu - unexpected high-quality player deep in the draft - and fumbled it away, in Poole.
I would lean towards keeping Kuminga if they think they can play him 20mpg. He still has legitimate star potential and hasn't turned 21 yet. They may feel that Poole was a bad influence on his attitude, as well - somebody is his position is definitely going to be vulnerable to a more experienced player saying, "Hey, man, what about me?"
So I think there's a chance the plan is to fix the culture, and hope that gets JFK back on track.
Poole is a World and Olympic champion as the best player on the team and a willing 6th man that will do whatever it takes to fill the needs of the lineups he’s put in?
It’s a huge blow to lose that guy! I suspect if he actually were that guy he’d still be a Warrior.
I mean, if you look at what Poole did at 22 it's INCREDIBLY promising. The sky is the limit, in general, for players who contribute in a meaningful way to a deep playoff run at that age, you're talking about names like LeBron and Magic.
To say that a Manu-like comparison was out of bounds, after the '22 season, is nonsense. It's entirely appropriate.
Of course, Poole took a HUGE step backwards last year, and those comparisons suddenly make a hell of a lot less sense. But realistically? Projects for Poole after '22, they should have been through the roof.
And maybe that was a fluke. Maybe Draymond destroyed that player. Maybe he was tanking because he wanted out. I have no idea. Even good projections are wrong sometimes.
Just like Maxwell Smart would say, "Very, Very interesting."
Sad thing is, I believe there was a way to salvage some of the 2 time-line "#San Antonio Spurs model" team moving forward. But it requires Dray to move to the bench and be the new Andre (they chose to trade Poole for CP3 to take that role for 1 year) and for Dray and Klay to take financial haircuts on their extensions. We don't know about Klay, but the wheels are in motion now for Dray to strong arm an extension starting at 30m. He has no intention of taking less now that we have traded & drafted ourselves into a position that would leave the team in shambles if he we don't extend him AND he has Sacramento perfectly positioned to help him smoke out more money from the Dubs.
Why would players take less money? Well, the San Antonio Spurs had Duncan, Ginobli & Parker. Their is no Spurs Model without the Spurs player's selfless team first attitudes which enable the Spurs front office to keep that team relevant. We all know Curry took his haircut (a full shave) on the front end. Dray can make an argument he has been slightly underpaid, but that's a very long discussion. We'll wait to see on Klay. So, we can't follow in the footsteps of the Spurs without the Drays and the Klays accepting the TRANSITION, both on the court and via their contracts.
Are we the selfless dynasty, modeled after SA, who can open the door to new stars and a continued high level of success? That answer is firmly in Draymond's CLUTCH.
It wouldn't shock me if he were traded, but are there some vets at a similar salary that could make a difference? That's a pretty low salary for a vet.
The "low playing time/Kerr won't play him" I still don't really buy. As a super young rookie on a championship team, he played 9th most minutes, basically the same as GP2, who was a major contributor. He became the youngest player IN HISTORY to start in a playoff game (from the coach who "hates/discriminates against the youth"). This year, he played even more, moving up to 7th in minutes, and getting nearly double the minutes of a vet like JMG. Yes, something weird happened in the playoffs. I don't know why. But unless it's a complete "JK refuses to play for this team anymore" scenario, I feel like they may not give up on him yet unless it's for an impact player.
Given that we can only get vets on a vet min, a JK trade would net you a TPMLE type player like DDV last year. I am all in on JK. However, they have chosen the win now and JK is a square peg in Kerr's round hole offense, one that de-emphasizes scoring from the 4/5s. If he isn't the starting 4 (like HBarnes used to be, with Andre moving to bench), I don't see substantial playing time available for him when all players are healthy. They traded for CP3 to take over the S-Dot/Andre run the bench unit role, thus ensuring Draymond won't have to sacrifice his starting role (a la Andre) - which in my view would help the team. While they might want to keep him, they need to use it or lose it. If they aren't going to push him into regular reliable substantial rotation minutes, he and every NBA fan who wants to see him play deserves to have him moved to a team that will.
TPMLE guys are usually one year though, so I don't think there are many we can trade for (and we certainly cannot accept an incoming sign-and-trade). Kuminga is currently looking like the 8-9th guy on the roster, depending if he is above or below Moody. I don't see how anyone they can trade him for will be better than 8th, so still in the range of "may get 0 playing time in playoffs" level players. A cursory look through vets making $5-$7 mil this upcoming season was not too promising. Could get Javale. Broken Gallinari. Otto back. That's about it with the vets currently under contract in the range. I don't see much hope of those guys helping.
Kuminga trade I think needed to be combined with guys like PBJ, Rollins, etc. to get to a salary level with contributors. But now those guys are gone, so you would have to combine with GP2, which makes the requirements for the incoming player a lot steeper.
Since there's a chance Kuminga still can't help much this year, they could look for just money-saving trade options for him. If the rumors about him for Pacers #7 were true, that would be along those lines. Neither will help us win now, so let's go on a cheaper option and defer it.
Thanks, you're helping me bring my absurd first post to fruition. In my mind, he was the 7th most impactful player on the team last year, GP2s incredible on/off stats aside. But because he wasn't on the floor guarding larger players when the Warriors were being out-sized by a mile, that value could not be appreciated. Moody didn't pick up minutes in the playoffs because he had a better attitude or knows the Warriors system better. Moody's game fits seamlessly into their system. He's a 2/3 that can mimic Klay/Wiggs effortlessly. Their exists no player on this dynasty run that has the potential positional skill set that JK has. There is no former role, a Bogut, S-Dot, Mo-Buckets role, that we can say, "Look, JK can be the new ......" He's a square peg, and unless Kerr shows the willingness to carve out the space in Kerr's "system" required to enable JK to reach his potential, then they should just move on and stop wasting his time, because at this point, they are starting to mess with his (future) money. And he and his agent are well aware of that.
Because I could not say my piece yet (technology acting up, smh) all I will say is that I absolutely love every bit of what happened on draft day. I feel we are - at least on paper - a much better squad now than before that day. MDJ starts his GM stint off with high grades in my book: officially ending the two-timelines nonsense, making our bench stronger even before free agency. What more could I want? Well, Draymond getting his well-deserved deal, but that'll come later.
Danerys Targarean in Marvel’s Secret Invasion. Are we gonna see all of the main cast of Game of Thrones throughout the MCU before everything is said and done?
Alchemy sounds like hes subscribed to the school of Joe Rogan/Andrew Tate with all the ‘Alpha Mentality’ and big hands talk describing TJD and watching that video im the worst off for it. Ill wait for the DNHQ breakdown in the coming weeks.
Feels like a bit of a stretch based off him just mentioning "alpha mentality" and hand size. One is a cliche constantly heard in basketball discussions, the other is literally a physical attribute like wingspan that can affect a player's game.
I have to tell you. Ive heard first take and podcasts like Lowe Post, Nate Duncan (subscribed to Duncd On Prime) and with Nate Duncan theyve broken down every single draft entrant 1-25 i believe and i have never ever heard the term Alpha used to describe a player. Ever.
Ill grant you the big hands argument even though it took a good bit of the video but anyone who ever describes a basketball player or associated game in terms of “Alpha” is a dipshit because you would never ever describe someones complementary game as “Beta” would you? But its cool i made sure to block the account because i dont ever want it to come across my timeline again
That's two people named, though. You've really never heard it on First Take? I'm saying it's pretty common, in my experience anyway... not completely ubiquitous.
I'd say it's more of a pet term by talk show talking heads that are all style and little substance, rather than stat heads like Lowe.
I do agree it sounds dumb :)
I think rather than saying "Beta," people who cringe internally at the horrifying notion that basketball might be a team sport at its heart prefer the term "bus rider."
A couple of interesting things I’ve heard since CP3 & draft:
1. Colin Cowherd ripping JP for disrespecting not just Draymond, but Steph and Klay. Wowza. Disrespecting either Splash Bro is not cool. Im assuming he heard this from Dray (podcast buddies), but no way he throws that out there if it’s not true.
2. GM Larry Harris on Dubs Talk - “I just want the fans to know, there’s going to be some changes, it’s going to be alright, it’s going to work itself out because change is sometimes a little scary, but I think in the end the goal is to win another championship and I think we are headed back in the right direction”…..why do I get the feeling he wasn’t referring to the CP3 trade?
Yeah when I heard Cowherd say it it was the first time I've heard it, but if that was Poole's attitude it explains a lot. Let no one think that it in any way justifies Draymond's punch, but it may put in into context. The correct response if Poole was being rude was to talk it out like adults obviously, but if it's a fact that he was being rude, and if they did try to talk it out, that's a whole other kettle of fish.
Yeah, it's crazy to me... Draymond is definitely one to fly off the handle but he doesn't just fly off the handle for nothing. You gotta teabag him, or try to rip his ankle off or something like that. JP wasn't just some poor innocent soul in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was *something* JP did that Dray was reacting to... of course, he reacted in a completely over the top and inappropriate kinda way...
Let's not forget, Draymond himself said he was going through some personal shit, was on edge because of it, when he hit Poole. Since this came from his own mouth, all these 3rd party comments about Poole having an attitude, and worse yet, contriving to make it an excuse for Draymond to assault one of his teammates, is just a reminder that the media is often ... well, ... full of it.
Based on the evidence we have, I agree with you that Draymond did the worst deed on that day. There isn't really evidence of Jordan doing much at all. However, I don't know if I can really agree with "it doesn't matter what you do to provoke someone" rationale that whoever escalates to the physical assault is automatically "more wrong". I don't know, it's a complicated subject. When you get to personal relationships and partners, it only further complicates it. But not to get into that, at a high level I cannot agree that whoever is more physically damaged has to be the greater victim in a scenario. If you do something with the specific and sole intent to psychologically damage someone enough to cause an escalated response, and you don't end up enjoying that response, it's hard to have any pity/sympathy for you.
Oh and one more thing. Alc mentions that JD has monster mitts. How is that info readily available because the grumbling the last few years was that Wiseman had small hands (relative to his big frame) and that was causing issues with his catching radius (wanting to have the ball placed where he can catch it with two hands). I did a google search and i saw nothing on the size of Wisemans hands but we somehow have access to TJDs hand size?
Lol @ Alchemy trying to break down PBJs inability to stay healthy or show abything of value when he was as the reasons he got traded. Come the heck on. He barely played. He was another project type player. I think friend of the program Feltbot tweeted a more reasonable assessment
I’m guessing a major reason that Warriors traded PBJ was that they assessed, or he and his agent assessed, that he can’t play center. And the Warriors need centers.
The Spawn of Dale is a center.
But probably the bigger reason was getting out of a first round salary slot and opening up another spot on the roster as TK alluded to. Just kinda chuckle at all the instant reactions that PBj didnt show enough etc when he was destined to have a redshirt year from the beginning
To my mind, it's as simple as, look, PBJ is going to be 21 next year. The number of 21-year-olds who contributed meaningfully to deep playoff runs can be counted on one hand that's missing a finger or two. Heck, the number of 22-year-olds who have done that is ... probably single digits. It's mostly names like LeBron and Magic and Kobe (although I guess Poole is on that second list now).
I think it might be as simple as, for the next 2-3 years, TJD is just likely to be a better player. He doesn't have the unicorn potential that PBJ does but - and this bit us on the ass last year - a team trying to win titles can't dedicate multiple roster spots to long-shot potential.
Kuminga, sure. Take that home run swing. But with the rest of the roster, we need guys who can play.
WE didn't see that much of him, but the coaches saw him every day.
It's true that he had been injured a lot (especially for someone who didn't play that much)... which was part of the reason he didn't play... and they probably had seen enough to know he wasn't quite the right fit for the roster in a way that TJD projects to be. It's never just one thing.
Not depressed at all, but I especially like Trayce. He's unique, and he has flaws, but if he didn't have any (and was taller/longer), he wouldn't even have been available at 19.
Something to consider about CP3's injury history. Of his 1214 games played, he has started all 1214 of them, averaging 34.4mpg. Dub's 6th man usually only plays 20-25mpg and only starts 20-40% of games.
Now that we've drafted him, I'm officially a Podz Person, so I decided to take a "closer" (relatively speaking) look at his box scores from his year at Santa Clara:
Free Throws: This was cited as a relative weakness by quite a few scouts, etc. 77ish% is not good for a guard, and is downright bad for a player who shoot 43+% from 3.
It was weirdly streaky in spots:
- Beginning of the season: 22/25 over 3 games, then 2/6 in a game.
-End of the season: 1-6 last 2 regular season games.
He had 9 games with a 100% FT rate, and he did shoot well in most of the big games (except for the last 3 games of the regular season).
Considering that he had many 75% games, it's probable that he's going to miss a few here and there, but you'd think, given his 3pt shooting that he'd at least be in the 80's at the line. Given that Kuminga and Moody aren't great at them, either, Podz's FT's could be a 2nd-unit x-factor.
The Warriors appear to have fully shifted from playing with Joy to playing with edge. The transition seemed to have started with passing on LaMelo if not before. Dunleavy left that off his list of what he was looking for but it seems to be the number one focus of the off-season
But they'll take great joy in playing with edge!
If you are feeling down about draft (or even otherwise), I highly recommend you to listen to Larry Harris on Dubs Talk podcast. You don't need a account or such:
It comes across as a honest assessment about rooks.
Podz - Film session was off the charts (My comment: Steve and Dray are gonna love that). His grit, his determination, his IQ, ability to make open shots; DDV-esque rebounding; Already has NBA ready body - compact, strong like Jalen Brunson.
Trayce - Big, Long, Athletic, Weak side.shot blocker, if you give him a lane, he gonna finish over top over a lot of people
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3MuYXJ0MTkuY29tL2R1YnMtdGFsaw/episode/Z2lkOi8vYXJ0MTktZXBpc29kZS1sb2NhdG9yL1YwL0NmVG0wRlRLRGM0aFQ3MnJUVDRobEtadGxXcTRNdGc1QU5JdTNieGZLaUU?ep=14
Good find!
Yeah seconded.
So, where is JK going? He's next on the chopping block. He remains the only vehicle the Warriors core would be willing to part with to get back a veteran NOT on a vet min, nor a FA. There are only x number of free agents available. The trade potential brings in a much larger group of players to choose from. If our current depth chart has rookies at 2 (bPod) and 5 (TJD), 6+ mil dedicated to your 3rd string PF doesn't make a lot of sense. A vet 2 & 4 ought to take precedence, since rookies slotted in the 2nd string doesn't jive with a win now approach. Not sure if JK is gonna be happy only playing when Dray or GP2 or Wiggs are out or non-meaningful minutes.
You and ADS have introduced a very poignant crossroad for the Warrior brass to navigate. There are always pros and cons to every situation. Whichever direction the team decides to head in, we will probably have a competitive team in the playoffs and that will satisfy many fans, even without winning a ring. What I worry about is after the next few years, without the Splash Bros. and without draft capital and developed assets at the previous level, where will the Warriors be? Poole was the first to go that had a real shot of leading this team in the future. He was the kind of scorer that the Warriors covet. JFK is not that dominant player that can take a team to the next level but he is important if developed. I don't see Moody as a leader either, perhaps an important bench player, though. Who do they turn to without money and assets for FA? If they feel Draymond is necessary for Steph, then it is Klay that has to be moved either netting a couple of younger players with a high ceiling, draft picks, or an expiring contract. You are only going to get all star level in FA, be it now or in a few years. The Warriors are used to a certain level of comfort and skill. To keep this dynasty going it will be very difficult and will require either a sacrifice or some such pain for a time to regain the lost momentum. It rests on Lacob's shoulders to see to all of this. I can only sit back and watch and see how this plays out. It's going to be interesting, to be sure.
I mean, San Antonio's "two timelines" thing relied on getting the #1 pick in a year when everyone knew there was a potential all-time great at the top of the draft (Duncan would have gone #1 either of the two prior years, had he declared sooner).
We had the #2 pick, in a year without an obvious superstar, and whiffed it. Them's the breaks. On top of that we found our Manu - unexpected high-quality player deep in the draft - and fumbled it away, in Poole.
I would lean towards keeping Kuminga if they think they can play him 20mpg. He still has legitimate star potential and hasn't turned 21 yet. They may feel that Poole was a bad influence on his attitude, as well - somebody is his position is definitely going to be vulnerable to a more experienced player saying, "Hey, man, what about me?"
So I think there's a chance the plan is to fix the culture, and hope that gets JFK back on track.
Poole as our Manu?
Poole is a World and Olympic champion as the best player on the team and a willing 6th man that will do whatever it takes to fill the needs of the lineups he’s put in?
It’s a huge blow to lose that guy! I suspect if he actually were that guy he’d still be a Warrior.
I mean, if you look at what Poole did at 22 it's INCREDIBLY promising. The sky is the limit, in general, for players who contribute in a meaningful way to a deep playoff run at that age, you're talking about names like LeBron and Magic.
To say that a Manu-like comparison was out of bounds, after the '22 season, is nonsense. It's entirely appropriate.
Of course, Poole took a HUGE step backwards last year, and those comparisons suddenly make a hell of a lot less sense. But realistically? Projects for Poole after '22, they should have been through the roof.
And maybe that was a fluke. Maybe Draymond destroyed that player. Maybe he was tanking because he wanted out. I have no idea. Even good projections are wrong sometimes.
Just like Maxwell Smart would say, "Very, Very interesting."
Sad thing is, I believe there was a way to salvage some of the 2 time-line "#San Antonio Spurs model" team moving forward. But it requires Dray to move to the bench and be the new Andre (they chose to trade Poole for CP3 to take that role for 1 year) and for Dray and Klay to take financial haircuts on their extensions. We don't know about Klay, but the wheels are in motion now for Dray to strong arm an extension starting at 30m. He has no intention of taking less now that we have traded & drafted ourselves into a position that would leave the team in shambles if he we don't extend him AND he has Sacramento perfectly positioned to help him smoke out more money from the Dubs.
Why would players take less money? Well, the San Antonio Spurs had Duncan, Ginobli & Parker. Their is no Spurs Model without the Spurs player's selfless team first attitudes which enable the Spurs front office to keep that team relevant. We all know Curry took his haircut (a full shave) on the front end. Dray can make an argument he has been slightly underpaid, but that's a very long discussion. We'll wait to see on Klay. So, we can't follow in the footsteps of the Spurs without the Drays and the Klays accepting the TRANSITION, both on the court and via their contracts.
Are we the selfless dynasty, modeled after SA, who can open the door to new stars and a continued high level of success? That answer is firmly in Draymond's CLUTCH.
It wouldn't shock me if he were traded, but are there some vets at a similar salary that could make a difference? That's a pretty low salary for a vet.
The "low playing time/Kerr won't play him" I still don't really buy. As a super young rookie on a championship team, he played 9th most minutes, basically the same as GP2, who was a major contributor. He became the youngest player IN HISTORY to start in a playoff game (from the coach who "hates/discriminates against the youth"). This year, he played even more, moving up to 7th in minutes, and getting nearly double the minutes of a vet like JMG. Yes, something weird happened in the playoffs. I don't know why. But unless it's a complete "JK refuses to play for this team anymore" scenario, I feel like they may not give up on him yet unless it's for an impact player.
Given that we can only get vets on a vet min, a JK trade would net you a TPMLE type player like DDV last year. I am all in on JK. However, they have chosen the win now and JK is a square peg in Kerr's round hole offense, one that de-emphasizes scoring from the 4/5s. If he isn't the starting 4 (like HBarnes used to be, with Andre moving to bench), I don't see substantial playing time available for him when all players are healthy. They traded for CP3 to take over the S-Dot/Andre run the bench unit role, thus ensuring Draymond won't have to sacrifice his starting role (a la Andre) - which in my view would help the team. While they might want to keep him, they need to use it or lose it. If they aren't going to push him into regular reliable substantial rotation minutes, he and every NBA fan who wants to see him play deserves to have him moved to a team that will.
TPMLE guys are usually one year though, so I don't think there are many we can trade for (and we certainly cannot accept an incoming sign-and-trade). Kuminga is currently looking like the 8-9th guy on the roster, depending if he is above or below Moody. I don't see how anyone they can trade him for will be better than 8th, so still in the range of "may get 0 playing time in playoffs" level players. A cursory look through vets making $5-$7 mil this upcoming season was not too promising. Could get Javale. Broken Gallinari. Otto back. That's about it with the vets currently under contract in the range. I don't see much hope of those guys helping.
Kuminga trade I think needed to be combined with guys like PBJ, Rollins, etc. to get to a salary level with contributors. But now those guys are gone, so you would have to combine with GP2, which makes the requirements for the incoming player a lot steeper.
Since there's a chance Kuminga still can't help much this year, they could look for just money-saving trade options for him. If the rumors about him for Pacers #7 were true, that would be along those lines. Neither will help us win now, so let's go on a cheaper option and defer it.
Thanks, you're helping me bring my absurd first post to fruition. In my mind, he was the 7th most impactful player on the team last year, GP2s incredible on/off stats aside. But because he wasn't on the floor guarding larger players when the Warriors were being out-sized by a mile, that value could not be appreciated. Moody didn't pick up minutes in the playoffs because he had a better attitude or knows the Warriors system better. Moody's game fits seamlessly into their system. He's a 2/3 that can mimic Klay/Wiggs effortlessly. Their exists no player on this dynasty run that has the potential positional skill set that JK has. There is no former role, a Bogut, S-Dot, Mo-Buckets role, that we can say, "Look, JK can be the new ......" He's a square peg, and unless Kerr shows the willingness to carve out the space in Kerr's "system" required to enable JK to reach his potential, then they should just move on and stop wasting his time, because at this point, they are starting to mess with his (future) money. And he and his agent are well aware of that.
Because I could not say my piece yet (technology acting up, smh) all I will say is that I absolutely love every bit of what happened on draft day. I feel we are - at least on paper - a much better squad now than before that day. MDJ starts his GM stint off with high grades in my book: officially ending the two-timelines nonsense, making our bench stronger even before free agency. What more could I want? Well, Draymond getting his well-deserved deal, but that'll come later.
Danerys Targarean in Marvel’s Secret Invasion. Are we gonna see all of the main cast of Game of Thrones throughout the MCU before everything is said and done?
You missed Beric in the same episode. Shame!
Dang it I did!
Alchemy sounds like hes subscribed to the school of Joe Rogan/Andrew Tate with all the ‘Alpha Mentality’ and big hands talk describing TJD and watching that video im the worst off for it. Ill wait for the DNHQ breakdown in the coming weeks.
Feels like a bit of a stretch based off him just mentioning "alpha mentality" and hand size. One is a cliche constantly heard in basketball discussions, the other is literally a physical attribute like wingspan that can affect a player's game.
I have to tell you. Ive heard first take and podcasts like Lowe Post, Nate Duncan (subscribed to Duncd On Prime) and with Nate Duncan theyve broken down every single draft entrant 1-25 i believe and i have never ever heard the term Alpha used to describe a player. Ever.
Ill grant you the big hands argument even though it took a good bit of the video but anyone who ever describes a basketball player or associated game in terms of “Alpha” is a dipshit because you would never ever describe someones complementary game as “Beta” would you? But its cool i made sure to block the account because i dont ever want it to come across my timeline again
That's two people named, though. You've really never heard it on First Take? I'm saying it's pretty common, in my experience anyway... not completely ubiquitous.
I'd say it's more of a pet term by talk show talking heads that are all style and little substance, rather than stat heads like Lowe.
I do agree it sounds dumb :)
I think rather than saying "Beta," people who cringe internally at the horrifying notion that basketball might be a team sport at its heart prefer the term "bus rider."
Puh-Shenski
Correct pronunciation?
https://twitter.com/KerithBurke/status/1672371460948754432?s=19
Looks like "po-JEM-ski"
Most announcers seen to say, “pajemski”
https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/1672442537771139074
Damian Lillard's agent, Aaron Goodwin, chose to address the IG Live club video of the Blazers star vibing to Will Smith's "Miami" song.
"Damian’s not disrespectful. He’s not an instigator. ...The music was just a coincidence."
LMAO
A couple of interesting things I’ve heard since CP3 & draft:
1. Colin Cowherd ripping JP for disrespecting not just Draymond, but Steph and Klay. Wowza. Disrespecting either Splash Bro is not cool. Im assuming he heard this from Dray (podcast buddies), but no way he throws that out there if it’s not true.
2. GM Larry Harris on Dubs Talk - “I just want the fans to know, there’s going to be some changes, it’s going to be alright, it’s going to work itself out because change is sometimes a little scary, but I think in the end the goal is to win another championship and I think we are headed back in the right direction”…..why do I get the feeling he wasn’t referring to the CP3 trade?
Yeah when I heard Cowherd say it it was the first time I've heard it, but if that was Poole's attitude it explains a lot. Let no one think that it in any way justifies Draymond's punch, but it may put in into context. The correct response if Poole was being rude was to talk it out like adults obviously, but if it's a fact that he was being rude, and if they did try to talk it out, that's a whole other kettle of fish.
Yeah, it's crazy to me... Draymond is definitely one to fly off the handle but he doesn't just fly off the handle for nothing. You gotta teabag him, or try to rip his ankle off or something like that. JP wasn't just some poor innocent soul in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was *something* JP did that Dray was reacting to... of course, he reacted in a completely over the top and inappropriate kinda way...
>Draymond is definitely one to fly off the handle but he doesn't just fly off the handle for nothing.
Every ref in the league who has ever called a foul on Draymond is rolling on the floor laughing.
Let's not forget, Draymond himself said he was going through some personal shit, was on edge because of it, when he hit Poole. Since this came from his own mouth, all these 3rd party comments about Poole having an attitude, and worse yet, contriving to make it an excuse for Draymond to assault one of his teammates, is just a reminder that the media is often ... well, ... full of it.
They could have both been in the wrong.
Two wrongs don't make it right.
Based on the evidence we have, I agree with you that Draymond did the worst deed on that day. There isn't really evidence of Jordan doing much at all. However, I don't know if I can really agree with "it doesn't matter what you do to provoke someone" rationale that whoever escalates to the physical assault is automatically "more wrong". I don't know, it's a complicated subject. When you get to personal relationships and partners, it only further complicates it. But not to get into that, at a high level I cannot agree that whoever is more physically damaged has to be the greater victim in a scenario. If you do something with the specific and sole intent to psychologically damage someone enough to cause an escalated response, and you don't end up enjoying that response, it's hard to have any pity/sympathy for you.
None of us dispute that Dray was wrong. It is relevant if Poole was being a jerk, but it doesn't excuse The Punch.
Why is TJD inspiring me to irrational exuberance about his chances next season? Is this what pro Wiseman folks felt every off-season?
Guys from IU usually do horribly in the NBA, but sons of players have a pretty good track record on the Warriors.
Way more excited about him than Podz for some reason.
Who was the slick playmaking big we had in GLeague a couple years back?
Travion?
I still love that guy.
He's with the Wizards' G League team the last I checked.
Not sure if posted, but Alc LOVES Trayce…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YPRJ7lxOV3U
Recommended viewing for anyone depressed about the most recent round of transactions.
Oh and one more thing. Alc mentions that JD has monster mitts. How is that info readily available because the grumbling the last few years was that Wiseman had small hands (relative to his big frame) and that was causing issues with his catching radius (wanting to have the ball placed where he can catch it with two hands). I did a google search and i saw nothing on the size of Wisemans hands but we somehow have access to TJDs hand size?
I noticed in the video he never uses his right hand to shoot.
Lol @ Alchemy trying to break down PBJs inability to stay healthy or show abything of value when he was as the reasons he got traded. Come the heck on. He barely played. He was another project type player. I think friend of the program Feltbot tweeted a more reasonable assessment
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I’m guessing a major reason that Warriors traded PBJ was that they assessed, or he and his agent assessed, that he can’t play center. And the Warriors need centers.
The Spawn of Dale is a center.
But probably the bigger reason was getting out of a first round salary slot and opening up another spot on the roster as TK alluded to. Just kinda chuckle at all the instant reactions that PBj didnt show enough etc when he was destined to have a redshirt year from the beginning
TJD is nothing like PBJ and vice versa. This is a no brainer upgrade.
To my mind, it's as simple as, look, PBJ is going to be 21 next year. The number of 21-year-olds who contributed meaningfully to deep playoff runs can be counted on one hand that's missing a finger or two. Heck, the number of 22-year-olds who have done that is ... probably single digits. It's mostly names like LeBron and Magic and Kobe (although I guess Poole is on that second list now).
I think it might be as simple as, for the next 2-3 years, TJD is just likely to be a better player. He doesn't have the unicorn potential that PBJ does but - and this bit us on the ass last year - a team trying to win titles can't dedicate multiple roster spots to long-shot potential.
Kuminga, sure. Take that home run swing. But with the rest of the roster, we need guys who can play.
Tatum?
WE didn't see that much of him, but the coaches saw him every day.
It's true that he had been injured a lot (especially for someone who didn't play that much)... which was part of the reason he didn't play... and they probably had seen enough to know he wasn't quite the right fit for the roster in a way that TJD projects to be. It's never just one thing.
Not depressed at all, but I especially like Trayce. He's unique, and he has flaws, but if he didn't have any (and was taller/longer), he wouldn't even have been available at 19.
BTW any breaking news about DDV? And how is Wiggins’s sternum?
Nothing to report until FA officially starts
Something to consider about CP3's injury history. Of his 1214 games played, he has started all 1214 of them, averaging 34.4mpg. Dub's 6th man usually only plays 20-25mpg and only starts 20-40% of games.
BREAKING NEWS: Crowds flock to see an Alien land in SA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbx8MIU-vSA
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif?1311943181
Now that we've drafted him, I'm officially a Podz Person, so I decided to take a "closer" (relatively speaking) look at his box scores from his year at Santa Clara:
Free Throws: This was cited as a relative weakness by quite a few scouts, etc. 77ish% is not good for a guard, and is downright bad for a player who shoot 43+% from 3.
It was weirdly streaky in spots:
- Beginning of the season: 22/25 over 3 games, then 2/6 in a game.
-End of the season: 1-6 last 2 regular season games.
He had 9 games with a 100% FT rate, and he did shoot well in most of the big games (except for the last 3 games of the regular season).
Considering that he had many 75% games, it's probable that he's going to miss a few here and there, but you'd think, given his 3pt shooting that he'd at least be in the 80's at the line. Given that Kuminga and Moody aren't great at them, either, Podz's FT's could be a 2nd-unit x-factor.
And he’s gonna learn the dark arts of flopping and rip throughs! [ducks]
Let’s hope the lessons don’t include whining