I would definitely trade the #2 and Looney for Holiday, but it would put the Warriors way over the cap for a couple of years when revenue is likely to be down substantially, so I doubt that it happens.
6.1 is good for us. Jrue is a much better player than Looney's ever shown, let alone acknowledging injury issues, and will do much more to help our championship window than Wiseman/Edwards will. If Wiseman or Edwards ever end up being as good as Jrue is now (i.e. in quite a few years from now), then that will be on the upper end of expected outcomes for them (and certainly not their median outcomes). 6.2 is probably fair value given how negative Dray's contract is seen around league now, but we need Dray more than we need Jrue, so doesn't help move our needle. The trades for LMA are just silly.
6.1: tempting, and actually makes sense. Emotionally, I don't want to give up Looney, but strategically Holiday is a more impactful player. (Depends partly on injuries of course.) But NOP is probably happy to have the #2 pick as someone to develop alongside their young core. Wiseman is the obvious positional fit but it would be pretty funny if they ended up with both Ball bros.
Looking back at drafts since Duncan, the 2002 draft was crap (hopefully this one is better than that.) The 2003 draft was awesome and predictable. But there really doesn’t seem to be an advantage in taking a younger player based on age.
If a player has NBA skills and dominated their level of competition prior to the NBA, they seem to be more likely to succeed in the NBA whether they come out age 18-22. And it doesn’t seem to impact longevity in the league either. HS players don’t seem to last any longer than college seniors when it comes to career length.
Seems like it would be wise to just get the most successful College/International player with the best current NBA skill set without regard to Age/Upside.
Wow, How did people start to evaluate Jrue as Jrue > than Looney + Gay + #2 pick or Jrue + a lottery protected pick > Dray + #2 pick?
That’s an insane evaluation based on one short playoff run that he was outstanding, and a legendary presence on non NBA courts.
Both of those picks have the Warriors giving up positions of need and the #2 best player in the draft for a 3rd guard.
Those trades only make sense if the Warriors know Looney or Green are hurt beyond repair but can still somehow pass a trade physical and the front office recognizes it’s so incapable of evaluating talent that they are guaranteed to bomb the first pick!
And the trades only get worse as the list goes down. The Warriors must have really been smacked down in their discussions with teams about trading down that this is where the rumors have gotten to. OUCH!
6.1 is the only reasonable trade I’ve seen so far that actually works for both teams. Most of the other trades have the Warriors losing Wiggins plus picks, which don’t move the needle much. Holiday is my preferred target for the #2 pick. He could slide into Iggy’s role on D and provide some offense too.
Draymond for garbage? These seem like red herring rumors.
NO please, NO.
I would definitely trade the #2 and Looney for Holiday, but it would put the Warriors way over the cap for a couple of years when revenue is likely to be down substantially, so I doubt that it happens.
6.1 is good for us. Jrue is a much better player than Looney's ever shown, let alone acknowledging injury issues, and will do much more to help our championship window than Wiseman/Edwards will. If Wiseman or Edwards ever end up being as good as Jrue is now (i.e. in quite a few years from now), then that will be on the upper end of expected outcomes for them (and certainly not their median outcomes). 6.2 is probably fair value given how negative Dray's contract is seen around league now, but we need Dray more than we need Jrue, so doesn't help move our needle. The trades for LMA are just silly.
6.1: tempting, and actually makes sense. Emotionally, I don't want to give up Looney, but strategically Holiday is a more impactful player. (Depends partly on injuries of course.) But NOP is probably happy to have the #2 pick as someone to develop alongside their young core. Wiseman is the obvious positional fit but it would be pretty funny if they ended up with both Ball bros.
6.2: No.
6.3: Hell no.
6.3.1: I don't see why either team would do this.
These trades are terrible. Actually can't wait till the draft hits so these writers stop the terrible trade ideas 🤦
Loosely based on the numbers:
Looking back at drafts since Duncan, the 2002 draft was crap (hopefully this one is better than that.) The 2003 draft was awesome and predictable. But there really doesn’t seem to be an advantage in taking a younger player based on age.
If a player has NBA skills and dominated their level of competition prior to the NBA, they seem to be more likely to succeed in the NBA whether they come out age 18-22. And it doesn’t seem to impact longevity in the league either. HS players don’t seem to last any longer than college seniors when it comes to career length.
Seems like it would be wise to just get the most successful College/International player with the best current NBA skill set without regard to Age/Upside.
Wow, How did people start to evaluate Jrue as Jrue > than Looney + Gay + #2 pick or Jrue + a lottery protected pick > Dray + #2 pick?
That’s an insane evaluation based on one short playoff run that he was outstanding, and a legendary presence on non NBA courts.
Both of those picks have the Warriors giving up positions of need and the #2 best player in the draft for a 3rd guard.
Those trades only make sense if the Warriors know Looney or Green are hurt beyond repair but can still somehow pass a trade physical and the front office recognizes it’s so incapable of evaluating talent that they are guaranteed to bomb the first pick!
And the trades only get worse as the list goes down. The Warriors must have really been smacked down in their discussions with teams about trading down that this is where the rumors have gotten to. OUCH!
6.1 is the only reasonable trade I’ve seen so far that actually works for both teams. Most of the other trades have the Warriors losing Wiggins plus picks, which don’t move the needle much. Holiday is my preferred target for the #2 pick. He could slide into Iggy’s role on D and provide some offense too.