One interesting thought is that these sort of scuffles seem to happen much more frequently in the NFL. I think there are lots of reasons for that, chiefly being that football is a much more violent game (and the whole CTE thing). When people are banging bodies and talking trash, sometimes things get a bit too heated.
Did this happen during scrimmage with the two going against each other? Did it happen when they were just hanging out? Was it at the end of a long day when nerves were frayed? Did Poole cross any lives with what he said?
Under no circumstances is what Draymond did okay, but in my opinion the circumstances greatly change the severity of it.
OT (maybe): old friend Jeff Dowtin with a nice line for Raptors over the Celtics last night. Just preseason, I know, but it's nice to see former Dubs excel.
Green is the older person here and, supposedly, should be the more mature one. He’s a veteran. He’s been in the limelight far longer and has earned more money than he’ll ever need. Poole is the up and coming young guy (and maybe star) who will finally get a big contract and more money than he’ll ever see. He’s super excited and who wouldn’t? Maybe Poole was bragging too much and who wouldn’t. Green has been in Poole’s situation. He’s been there. So couldn’t Green have empathized with Poole, taken Poole aside, and talked with him about whatever was bothering him about Poole? Resorting to anything physical just leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. And it’s a sign of weakness and immaturity, no matter how you try to justify it. We always excuse Green’s outbursts as something that’s just part of him and what makes him who he is. But he’s really just a ticking time bomb because, sooner or later, one of his outbursts could be his downfall. With that said, I truly hope they fix this.
Don't think it's a big deal. Always gotten big bro little bro vibes from Dray and Poole. Can't see them not being able to move past it. They are both ultra competitive.
To start off with, I love Draymond. I don't always like everything he does, but he uniquely provides so much to the team and he really is a unicorn among NBA players as a full package. We all know that he walks a thin line between being a fiery motivator and competitor and momentarily losing his cool. I think overall he has matured a lot over time, but clearly he let his emotions get the better of him here (for whatever reason). It is far from the first time, and likely will not be the last time. The better question is, where does this rank among his other "crossing the line" moments?
The NBA plans to negotiate new television/media and Collective Bargaining deals before seriously examining the adding of new teams. The possibilities of Las Vegas and Seattle as expansion candidates are real, but likely years away.
Once again a part of Warriors fandom is using every chance given to embarrass itself. If the team shot as efficiently as some its fans do, we'd go 74-8 this season. Questioning whether Poole wouldn't sign his first big money extension (he would), questioning whether we can win without Draymond this season (we can't), all over something that shouldn't happen yet happens in the league every damn season. Unless we hear about a trade request within the next 48 hours, this is giant nothing burger. Green will get his bollocks fined off and maybe cop an internal suspension for a game, then the team will keep winning and in a month nobody talks about it anymore.
Guys, I need a quick recap on what happened between JP and Dray. Mostly I need it because all I read on the matter does not make sense to me. What f****ng rivalry can there be between them two? Plus, I expected Iggy to intervene graciously when such things should arise. I expect him as to fill this role, to grab them two by the ears, and slam them onto the lockers room wall, and to ask politely: "What the f**k, you two?". Am I wrong?
I wonder if draymond would have punched demarcus cousins for talkin shit instead of a small dude 10 years younger then him, I'm good on dray, go play on the lakers with your idol
A few days after joining the Trevion army he's gone without any fanfare. I must be a horrible judge of what an effective NBA big looks like.
One interesting thought is that these sort of scuffles seem to happen much more frequently in the NFL. I think there are lots of reasons for that, chiefly being that football is a much more violent game (and the whole CTE thing). When people are banging bodies and talking trash, sometimes things get a bit too heated.
Did this happen during scrimmage with the two going against each other? Did it happen when they were just hanging out? Was it at the end of a long day when nerves were frayed? Did Poole cross any lives with what he said?
Under no circumstances is what Draymond did okay, but in my opinion the circumstances greatly change the severity of it.
OT (maybe): old friend Jeff Dowtin with a nice line for Raptors over the Celtics last night. Just preseason, I know, but it's nice to see former Dubs excel.
Green is the older person here and, supposedly, should be the more mature one. He’s a veteran. He’s been in the limelight far longer and has earned more money than he’ll ever need. Poole is the up and coming young guy (and maybe star) who will finally get a big contract and more money than he’ll ever see. He’s super excited and who wouldn’t? Maybe Poole was bragging too much and who wouldn’t. Green has been in Poole’s situation. He’s been there. So couldn’t Green have empathized with Poole, taken Poole aside, and talked with him about whatever was bothering him about Poole? Resorting to anything physical just leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. And it’s a sign of weakness and immaturity, no matter how you try to justify it. We always excuse Green’s outbursts as something that’s just part of him and what makes him who he is. But he’s really just a ticking time bomb because, sooner or later, one of his outbursts could be his downfall. With that said, I truly hope they fix this.
Don't think it's a big deal. Always gotten big bro little bro vibes from Dray and Poole. Can't see them not being able to move past it. They are both ultra competitive.
Lost in all of this is that as of today, we can no longer refer to Kuminga as a 19 year old.
Uncle Alc’s take is pretty much in line with how I feel: https://youtu.be/_72TSDsI_ok
To his credit, he pointed to Draymond being an issue in a contract year as something to watch out for prior to this incident.
To start off with, I love Draymond. I don't always like everything he does, but he uniquely provides so much to the team and he really is a unicorn among NBA players as a full package. We all know that he walks a thin line between being a fiery motivator and competitor and momentarily losing his cool. I think overall he has matured a lot over time, but clearly he let his emotions get the better of him here (for whatever reason). It is far from the first time, and likely will not be the last time. The better question is, where does this rank among his other "crossing the line" moments?
Top 5 Things Poole Might Have Said to Piss Off Draymond:
* “My comp is Tyler Herro. Who’s yours, Jae Crowder?”
* (singing) “My bag’s bigger than your bag. My bag’s bigger than yours. My bag’s bigger cause I am better than you. My bag’s bigger than yours.”
* “Hope Joe’s got some crumbs left over for you.”
* “What did you say Dray? It’s hard to hear you over all those crickets coming from the front office since you demanded that max extension.”
* “I’m getting a bag and you’re still wearing that backpack.”
Dunno if this was shared yet:
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1577890581728186369?s=20&t=ex5bW8GLjlPGEPadVsZmFQ
The NBA plans to negotiate new television/media and Collective Bargaining deals before seriously examining the adding of new teams. The possibilities of Las Vegas and Seattle as expansion candidates are real, but likely years away.
OT: Eric, I think we need an E1P (Explain One Punch).
And here I missed all of the excitement by watching volleyball last night. Hopefully it's all sorted or will be soon.
Once again a part of Warriors fandom is using every chance given to embarrass itself. If the team shot as efficiently as some its fans do, we'd go 74-8 this season. Questioning whether Poole wouldn't sign his first big money extension (he would), questioning whether we can win without Draymond this season (we can't), all over something that shouldn't happen yet happens in the league every damn season. Unless we hear about a trade request within the next 48 hours, this is giant nothing burger. Green will get his bollocks fined off and maybe cop an internal suspension for a game, then the team will keep winning and in a month nobody talks about it anymore.
Guys, I need a quick recap on what happened between JP and Dray. Mostly I need it because all I read on the matter does not make sense to me. What f****ng rivalry can there be between them two? Plus, I expected Iggy to intervene graciously when such things should arise. I expect him as to fill this role, to grab them two by the ears, and slam them onto the lockers room wall, and to ask politely: "What the f**k, you two?". Am I wrong?
MJ threw a punch at Kerr, who stood up and probably responded, and they went on winning three rings together....
They're grown men, they're pro ballers
I believe we are too much worry about it
I wonder if draymond would have punched demarcus cousins for talkin shit instead of a small dude 10 years younger then him, I'm good on dray, go play on the lakers with your idol