I did not know JimmyB has Dutch, brazillian and columbian connection - no wonder he is such a coffee guy!
from r/warrior:
“That’s my dog,” Butler said of Post. “You know, we both basically from Amsterdam. I’m also Brazilian and Colombian. I used to live and work out over where he was (in Amsterdam), where he played at first. So I got a lot of love for him. And he plays so incredibly hard and hella smart and can shoot the hell out of it. I like young fella.”
He needs to get back to finishing at the rim as he did as a rookie. I am not sure why he has regressed so much this season, but he hit 78% of his shots within 3 feet of the basket last season vs. just 70 this season and 56% of his shots with 3 to 10 feet of the basket last season vs. just 47% this season. And last season he took 65% of his shots within 3 feet of the rim vs. just 47% of his shots this season. Thus, his effective field goal percentage has dropped to 70% to just 57%. He doesn't do enough other things on offense or defense to make up for this significant decline. But all he has to do is to somehow get back to what he did last season.
Dray, Post, Loon, TJD, JK, Gui, Jimmy, Moody & one half GP2
Only 3 1/2 back court players
Steph, Hield, Podz & the other half GP2
That is thin ice in the back court. Front court options
C: Dray, Post, Loon, TJD
PF: JK, Dray, Jimmy, Gui, Moody, one half GP2
SF: Jimmy, Moody, JK, Gui
I see no reason whatsoever to add to the front court in the buyout. Can Moody & Jimmy log some minutes at the SG? Sure. We have 'break glass in emergency' options at the 2, for sure. And Moody or Jimmy at the SG gives you a big lineup. That's cool. But we gotta shore up the back court. I know Ben Simmons isn't our cup of tea, culture-wise, but he would have been an awesome pick-up. Damn you, LA.
Spencer is playable as your 3rd string PG. And, Rowe's getting 8.5 minutes a game.
I agree that the most important priority is getting a SG/small shooting wing, but even if the pickings are slim, and we just end up with unplayable guys in roster spots 13 and 14, we'll probably be OK.
And in the playoffs, those guys don't get off the bench, unless it's a blowout, anyway.
A, because in '22 there was room for hope that Poole would turn into a legit number 1 option for a contender (somewhere between Trae Young and SGA), and that Wiseman would turn into unique weapon just based on his measurables. Also, the perceived ceiling of JK and Moody was marginally higher than it is today.
A had 5 potential starters on a contender, B only has maybe 2. OTOH, the floor of B is much higher.
I'm gonna have to call Wiseman-Post a draw at the 5, just because of the small sample size. Moody/JK a wash, that puts Poole/Wiggs vs. Podz/Gui and I'll have to go with Poole/Wiggs based on their resumes and they were both big contributors to a title.
Interesting thing here is that a) I had thought Moody was drafted to replace Klay at the 2 and b) I had thought that JK was drafted as Wiggins' future replacement at the 3 (remember, Wiggs wasn't two-way Wiggs yet).
Now, it's pretty clear that Moody is a 3 and JK is a 4. That being said, if I was rebuilding with Poole, Moody, Kuminga & Wiseman (injuries aside), I would okay.
How about just sticking with our draft picks.
Poole, Podz, Moody, JK, Loon, TJD, Post, Gui, Wiseman.
Maybe Poole, Podz, Moody, JK and pick your starting center for the night.
Buyout point guards. You always have to worry if a new player, especially one playing limited minutes in a critical role, like backup PG, is going to pick up our system quick enough, if at all, to be able to help contribute down the stretch. You have to question whether or not it is safer to, say, add Pat Spencer to the roster. He may not be great, but he knows the system. Whatever a new and better PG could give us may be negated by the inability to integrate with the system in so short amount of time.
That being said, Tre Jones and Patty Mills are both Popovich products. As possible buyout candidates, these are the two guys you would have the most faith in when it comes to playing in our system. You don't have to be a rock star as the back-up PG on this team. You just have to fit into the system, be able to be a functional part of the system, and not be a total disaster.
I would not be surprised to see either of those guys picked up for this reason.
We are freakin' 0-8 in California. I don't like getting bullied in our our state. We are 12-5 OUTSIDE California. We are 15-21 in all games in CA including home court. That's just odd.
Slightly OT but I'm still trying to process the Luker/AD trade. If Luka is a 25yo Generational talent and got traded for an almost 32yo star and some cheetos, when would the equivalent be if the Dubs did the same thing with Steph? ie What season would we at DNHQ have gone absolutely apoplectic/felt the same way as the Mav fans if we traded Curry away for an equivalent deal?
Hard to find an equivalent because Steph and Co won the finals series (2015) in their budding dynasty that Dallas failed to win last year, and one would have to posit that Steph was traded after winning a chip, I think, to hit that level. Curry was great in 2014, but I don't think he was at a Luka-level obvious best in the league at that point. If I were going to pick a spot, it would be after the finals loss in 2016 - Steph was hurt for most of that playoffs and played the finals on one foot, and a crazy GM could have decided that long term he was still a health risk, and that Dray (temper), Klay (just too cool for words but worried about effects of a potential toaster shortage) and Steph (injuries, still too small to play in the NBA) had too many problems to likely win any more chips.
So, for really bad deals - give Steph away to the Clips for say, Chris Paul, JJ Reddick and 1 first? If one wants an AD injury comp, Kawhi Leonard? For ultimate levels of pain and loss trade Steph even up for Russell Westbrook, and as a bonus result, Durant decides to stay in OKC because - Steph. Westbrook won MVP the next year, and so might actually have been too good (that's how bad the Luka trade is) to comp to the Dallas trade, and a Westbrook trade would still have put me in the floor of the closet for months.
With the score 112-95, Podz goes in for a layup with a questionable move. Hield jumps up with great energy to signal traveling and doesn't let up for ten seconds.
*if* Butler stays healthy/positive, this is a tremendous team upgrade. This is the worst version of Butler we’re going to see, as he’s not in game shape and doesn’t really know any of the players or plays.
Podz really is the glue guy for this team. He doesn’t need to score to impact winning but when he does we’re tough to beat. His FT is really erratic though and hopefully it settles soon
Butler has so far successfully replaced Schroder (and then some, obviously) which has been big for Podz to continue to be in his optimal offensive role. That said, I don't know if the glue guy stuff will be enough in the playoffs (assuming the Warriors can get there), he's gonna have to hit these shots. The deceleration tricks might get tougher to pull off when the opponent has time to gameplan for and expect it, because they might realize that it's kinda his only move in that situation.
He started on Dame and got Cooked early in the first half, but looked much more active & staying attached to Dame in the second half. Heck, they even brought back some sideline traps! Is Jimmy Butler passing lane defense going to bring back the trapping defense? I know Dame has height deficiency there, but that looked good!
Didn't see first half so not sure what happened then. He did have a quite silly foul on Dame in the 4th when he was just trailing him from behind and running into him, but had no chance to actually stop him and gave up an and-1. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Dame's done that to everyone.
I actually thought he did a reasonably good job on Dame from the start except the one play where he didn't contest the logo 3. But Dame cooks most people 1 on 1 and the team did a good job of forcing him into turnovers.
First play of the game, he gives Dame an easy baseline drive, drawing Steph as the low man, and an easy kickout to their 45% 3pt shooter alone in the corner. Maybe that was the plan? But if so, it was a really shit plan.
Generally, in the first half, he looked slow and reactive, but in the second half, he looked quick, proactive, and menacing. Maybe that's just my own unique eye test seeing that, tho.
Sure… but the trail was bad. And if he was *giving* Dame that lane, why was he so slow to follow, which gave Dame tons of space to work around Steph any way he wanted? If you’re giving a baseline drive, you gotta expect it, and then stay attached to take something away.
New thread up!
I did not know JimmyB has Dutch, brazillian and columbian connection - no wonder he is such a coffee guy!
from r/warrior:
“That’s my dog,” Butler said of Post. “You know, we both basically from Amsterdam. I’m also Brazilian and Colombian. I used to live and work out over where he was (in Amsterdam), where he played at first. So I got a lot of love for him. And he plays so incredibly hard and hella smart and can shoot the hell out of it. I like young fella.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/comments/1imtx9v/jimmy_on_post_thats_my_dog/
Stroopwafels for everyone!
Career highest offensive percentage for all players with over 19% career usage: https://stathead.com/tiny/nKg1g
Season highest offensive percentage for all players with over 19.5% career usage: https://stathead.com/tiny/k9PDc
Highest box plus/minus for any rookie over the past 5 seasons: https://stathead.com/tiny/PtIY6
Highest win share per 48 minutes for any rookie over the past 5 seasons: https://stathead.com/tiny/Kc6sQ
This is insane. We never get *those* bigs.
ADD: TJD gets love in these lists, too. What role does/can he have now?
He needs to get back to finishing at the rim as he did as a rookie. I am not sure why he has regressed so much this season, but he hit 78% of his shots within 3 feet of the basket last season vs. just 70 this season and 56% of his shots with 3 to 10 feet of the basket last season vs. just 47% this season. And last season he took 65% of his shots within 3 feet of the rim vs. just 47% of his shots this season. Thus, his effective field goal percentage has dropped to 70% to just 57%. He doesn't do enough other things on offense or defense to make up for this significant decline. But all he has to do is to somehow get back to what he did last season.
Jokic being up there is an incredible accomplishment.
Indeed it is. He is one of a kind in the the entire history of the NBA.
Current roster.
8 1/2 front court players
Dray, Post, Loon, TJD, JK, Gui, Jimmy, Moody & one half GP2
Only 3 1/2 back court players
Steph, Hield, Podz & the other half GP2
That is thin ice in the back court. Front court options
C: Dray, Post, Loon, TJD
PF: JK, Dray, Jimmy, Gui, Moody, one half GP2
SF: Jimmy, Moody, JK, Gui
I see no reason whatsoever to add to the front court in the buyout. Can Moody & Jimmy log some minutes at the SG? Sure. We have 'break glass in emergency' options at the 2, for sure. And Moody or Jimmy at the SG gives you a big lineup. That's cool. But we gotta shore up the back court. I know Ben Simmons isn't our cup of tea, culture-wise, but he would have been an awesome pick-up. Damn you, LA.
OTOH, those that complain about Kerr’s3-guard lineups can take comfort.
Not sure why adding Ben Simmons would shore up the back court. He's also been quite terrible this year.
That's discounting Rowe and Spencer.
Spencer is playable as your 3rd string PG. And, Rowe's getting 8.5 minutes a game.
I agree that the most important priority is getting a SG/small shooting wing, but even if the pickings are slim, and we just end up with unplayable guys in roster spots 13 and 14, we'll probably be OK.
And in the playoffs, those guys don't get off the bench, unless it's a blowout, anyway.
Rowe got 8.5 minutes/gm for 4 games, and with Butler here, he'll just get garbage time.
Here's hoping. And, at some point, we'll be running out of 2-way days.
But, the point is that we have enough backcourt depth, at least for now, which was the concern.
Doing your best to push recency bias aside, which post-OG future gave/gives reason to be higher (Edit: Without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight):
A. (2022) Poole - Moody - Wiggins - Kuminga - Wiseman
B. (2025) Podz - Moody - Kuminga - Gui - Post
A, because in '22 there was room for hope that Poole would turn into a legit number 1 option for a contender (somewhere between Trae Young and SGA), and that Wiseman would turn into unique weapon just based on his measurables. Also, the perceived ceiling of JK and Moody was marginally higher than it is today.
A had 5 potential starters on a contender, B only has maybe 2. OTOH, the floor of B is much higher.
Well B for sure just because of Big Bust Wiseman.
I meant at the time, without the benefit of hindsight.
Exactly. So B.
I'm gonna have to call Wiseman-Post a draw at the 5, just because of the small sample size. Moody/JK a wash, that puts Poole/Wiggs vs. Podz/Gui and I'll have to go with Poole/Wiggs based on their resumes and they were both big contributors to a title.
Interesting thing here is that a) I had thought Moody was drafted to replace Klay at the 2 and b) I had thought that JK was drafted as Wiggins' future replacement at the 3 (remember, Wiggs wasn't two-way Wiggs yet).
Now, it's pretty clear that Moody is a 3 and JK is a 4. That being said, if I was rebuilding with Poole, Moody, Kuminga & Wiseman (injuries aside), I would okay.
How about just sticking with our draft picks.
Poole, Podz, Moody, JK, Loon, TJD, Post, Gui, Wiseman.
Maybe Poole, Podz, Moody, JK and pick your starting center for the night.
You can’t do that with Post and Wiseman.
2022 because at the time thats how we slotted same lineup with ideal size up and down that lineup
2025: Moody, Gui, Kuminga are PF’s, and Podz is a smallish 2. We would still need a 1 and a 3
Buyout point guards. You always have to worry if a new player, especially one playing limited minutes in a critical role, like backup PG, is going to pick up our system quick enough, if at all, to be able to help contribute down the stretch. You have to question whether or not it is safer to, say, add Pat Spencer to the roster. He may not be great, but he knows the system. Whatever a new and better PG could give us may be negated by the inability to integrate with the system in so short amount of time.
That being said, Tre Jones and Patty Mills are both Popovich products. As possible buyout candidates, these are the two guys you would have the most faith in when it comes to playing in our system. You don't have to be a rock star as the back-up PG on this team. You just have to fit into the system, be able to be a functional part of the system, and not be a total disaster.
I would not be surprised to see either of those guys picked up for this reason.
I like Tre Jones, but not sure why the Bulls would buy him out. Patty Mills is uber washed.
Didn't Patty Mills reject the Dubs once upon a time?
Interesting
OKC 2-1 MEM 2-1 DEN 0-1
HOU 2-1 MIN 3-1 DAL 1-1
LAL 0-3 LAC 0-3 SAC 0-2
We are freakin' 0-8 in California. I don't like getting bullied in our our state. We are 12-5 OUTSIDE California. We are 15-21 in all games in CA including home court. That's just odd.
Slightly OT but I'm still trying to process the Luker/AD trade. If Luka is a 25yo Generational talent and got traded for an almost 32yo star and some cheetos, when would the equivalent be if the Dubs did the same thing with Steph? ie What season would we at DNHQ have gone absolutely apoplectic/felt the same way as the Mav fans if we traded Curry away for an equivalent deal?
5 years from now
Hard to find an equivalent because Steph and Co won the finals series (2015) in their budding dynasty that Dallas failed to win last year, and one would have to posit that Steph was traded after winning a chip, I think, to hit that level. Curry was great in 2014, but I don't think he was at a Luka-level obvious best in the league at that point. If I were going to pick a spot, it would be after the finals loss in 2016 - Steph was hurt for most of that playoffs and played the finals on one foot, and a crazy GM could have decided that long term he was still a health risk, and that Dray (temper), Klay (just too cool for words but worried about effects of a potential toaster shortage) and Steph (injuries, still too small to play in the NBA) had too many problems to likely win any more chips.
So, for really bad deals - give Steph away to the Clips for say, Chris Paul, JJ Reddick and 1 first? If one wants an AD injury comp, Kawhi Leonard? For ultimate levels of pain and loss trade Steph even up for Russell Westbrook, and as a bonus result, Durant decides to stay in OKC because - Steph. Westbrook won MVP the next year, and so might actually have been too good (that's how bad the Luka trade is) to comp to the Dallas trade, and a Westbrook trade would still have put me in the floor of the closet for months.
Celebration audit request:
With the score 112-95, Podz goes in for a layup with a questionable move. Hield jumps up with great energy to signal traveling and doesn't let up for ten seconds.
What do we make of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcanHTgfOMs&t=437s
I saw that and thought about how Butler has revived more than Steph on this team
I didn’t watch the game and only saw in highlights how much he contributed last night. Butler unlocking everyone, it just another Hield False Promise?
*if* Butler stays healthy/positive, this is a tremendous team upgrade. This is the worst version of Butler we’re going to see, as he’s not in game shape and doesn’t really know any of the players or plays.
I just don't see him getting grouchy any time soon. He does that around contracts and effort, neither of which is an issue here.
Couldn't watch live... soo...
SPLASSSSSH MOUNTAIN!
Wonder if Brogdon is actually going to get a buyout. Washington is still playing him for some reason
Still looks like a very productive player. Would
be the best option to start alongside Steph for the rest of the season
Podz really is the glue guy for this team. He doesn’t need to score to impact winning but when he does we’re tough to beat. His FT is really erratic though and hopefully it settles soon
Butler has so far successfully replaced Schroder (and then some, obviously) which has been big for Podz to continue to be in his optimal offensive role. That said, I don't know if the glue guy stuff will be enough in the playoffs (assuming the Warriors can get there), he's gonna have to hit these shots. The deceleration tricks might get tougher to pull off when the opponent has time to gameplan for and expect it, because they might realize that it's kinda his only move in that situation.
https://youtu.be/mcanHTgfOMs?t=437
Look at Kerr's reaction to this Post three (which was an eye-opening shot for sure). Dude was shocked.
Looked like an oversized Klay
Some great comments on there.
“0:01 when curry has the crispy fade you know it’s gonna be a long night”
“Kevon Looney
4 PTS, 5 REB, 2 AST, 40 PUMPFAKES”
😂
I think all of us had the same reaction
The Dutch Oven: he's cooking now.
Winner winner, chicken dinner. You nailed it.
Nice!
Moody in the closing lineup 2 straight games makes me unreasonably happy.
He started on Dame and got Cooked early in the first half, but looked much more active & staying attached to Dame in the second half. Heck, they even brought back some sideline traps! Is Jimmy Butler passing lane defense going to bring back the trapping defense? I know Dame has height deficiency there, but that looked good!
> got Cooked early in the first half
I'll need someone to review the tapes, I didn't see that happen
Didn't see first half so not sure what happened then. He did have a quite silly foul on Dame in the 4th when he was just trailing him from behind and running into him, but had no chance to actually stop him and gave up an and-1. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Dame's done that to everyone.
I actually thought he did a reasonably good job on Dame from the start except the one play where he didn't contest the logo 3. But Dame cooks most people 1 on 1 and the team did a good job of forcing him into turnovers.
First play of the game, he gives Dame an easy baseline drive, drawing Steph as the low man, and an easy kickout to their 45% 3pt shooter alone in the corner. Maybe that was the plan? But if so, it was a really shit plan.
Generally, in the first half, he looked slow and reactive, but in the second half, he looked quick, proactive, and menacing. Maybe that's just my own unique eye test seeing that, tho.
Isn't a fundamental of Warrior defense being okay with letting someone drive the baseline into help?
Sure… but the trail was bad. And if he was *giving* Dame that lane, why was he so slow to follow, which gave Dame tons of space to work around Steph any way he wanted? If you’re giving a baseline drive, you gotta expect it, and then stay attached to take something away.