Pacers are the most aptly named team in the NBA right now - they pace that they are playing at is insane. Wouldn't want to meet them in the playoffs, and fortunately the Dubs probably won't have to.
Chris Paul is definitely slowing down the pace when he brings up the ball. Sometimes that's good (late game situations with the lead) but it's certainly not the fun style of play we're used to.
I want to see us push the pace more... which will maybe happen when Draymond is back. He and Steph in particular like to push it... Moody, Podziemski, and TJD seem to have some potential/inclination too as well. The other guys need to step it up and get them more outlet opportunities though.
I think they've already done that at least once. Wouldn't surprise me. Not like he's going to get in the game, unless something weird happens. Basically, it's a 2 hour drive, and a walk-through/shootaround for him.
From The Athletic: "Blazers at Suns: Phoenix still has a chance at the West wildcard but needs to win by a lot for point-differential reasons. Luckily, they’re playing Portland, so that’s likely."
So, do the Suns care about the IST, and play the starters in the 4Q of a blow out to run up their score differential, knowing the Dubs are coming the next night? Somehow I don't see Vogel caring that much about the IST, but would be great if they wear themselves out tonight for a gimmick and lose tomorrow.
I was curious how his rebounding would translate. They say it's something that transfers well from college to the pros but I wasn't sure if there was some sort of tax for the level of competition in the WCC compared to a major conference. Like if you go look at CJ McCollum's numbers at Lehigh, he averaged 7.6 rebounds per 40 minutes but has only averaged 4 per 36 in the pros.
So far it seems Podz' rebounding has translated better. Just hope he can figure out how to play PG and initiate offense and all that, if he can make the switch then the sky is the limit imo.
Doesn't count hockey assists, though. And he's not being asked to serve as primary ball-handler as much with CP3 in there, so that could explain the lower assist numbers, although that would argue for fewer turnovers as well. The other contributor to the low assist numbers is probably the Dubs' frequently horrible shooting during the losing streak
Steph's almost a 1/2 a turnover a game higher than last year (about 15%), and that's while averaging a minute and a half less per game (per BBref).
The thing I've noticed is that he's picking up an unusual number of dribbling turnovers (at least, so it seems to me). His turnovers used to almost all be passing.
I imagine part of it is just that teams are devoting more attention to him, because for the first chunk of the season, no one else was making shots.
Some, I'm sure is the change in style. We don't run nearly as much, and he's facing set defenses. Plus, Green has been out about a 1/3 of the season, and he did a lot of the half court ball handling.
There's some truth to this ... Kerr teams are going to be higher turnover teams because they pass a lot.
That passing also buys them better shots.
but regardless, it's not like this year is different from previous years that way. We've faced a stretch of good defensive teams, and they haven't had to pay as much attention to Klay or Wiggs shooting. Plus the pace is down. I think that explains it. Certainly, Kerr's overall offenses are more than good enough offenses.
I have been daydreaming about that, too. What do folks think? Any ideas on, say, a 75th percentile comp? (I see the Haliburton shout out above—love it, but that feels like 100th percentile!)
I was going to say Malik Monk, but Brandin's already in the same ballpark (in a much smaller role tbf). I'd still say Monk with better passing is probably around his above-average outcome? I'd love to hear from others!
That's a fun one. Personally, I've been thinking something a little more jack-of-all-trades-y. Maybe something like Derrick White or Malcolm Brogdon as ambitious-but-not-crazy comps?
The thing that impresses me about Podz is that he seems to understand the _urgency_ of the Warriors motion offense. Other rookies do that thing where they bring the ball forward at three-quarter speed with no plan ("I'm attacking, I'm attacking... no I'm not") then they toss a looping pass back to the point guard and the possession is stone dead. Perhaps unfairly I call it a "Pat McCaw". JK does it less now, but Podz just seems to know that if you move fast the defense will give you a half-step somewhere, and then if you move (and think) still faster you can keep it open, claw it open, and somewhere someone will get a look. Did he learn that here, or has he always played like that?
This is a great insight. So often I watch guys bring the ball up slowly and am wondering, wtf are you doing, do,you have no plan at all? With CP3, Steph, Dray, even Looney it seems like when they bring the ball up they are watching/waiting/planning for a play that is developing in front of them. In the absence of this kind of future vision, urgency/speed can also give options.
Regarding Sengun, one thing I think people aren't acknowledging is that he's grown like 2 inches since he was drafted. Which makes a huge difference for him and wasn't something that was necessarily predictable (although can always be a nice bonus for young players).
I was down with the idea of drafting Sengun but I think the lamentations about missing on drafting him at least need to acknowledge that his NBA career is probably going differently without the growth spurt.
Yeah, I remember thinking he was undersized for a guy that unathletic. He’s definitely bigger and more athletic and is looking like he’s going to be a really good case scenario.
> "When we first drafted Giannis, we measured him at 6-foot-8½," Bucks GM John Hammond says. But at midseason, the Bucks' strength and conditioning coach walked into Hammond's office. "He told me, 'The kid is still growing and I don't think he's done.'" By season's end, he was 6-11.
I don't know how much you can factor in "potential to grow" into your draft decisions since it's really a roll of the dice... but it can make a huge difference...
I'd suggest being upfront about it, thus giving your date the chance to decide where to go moving forward. Personally, I always appreciated honesty when I was still dating so if after 3 dates and there wasn't enough to move forwards, I'd tell my date. It would be up to them if they wanted to stay friends or drop everything and move on.
Edit: Additionally, physical attraction is overrated and need intimacy as a counterweight.
Man, 30 in points in the paint combined with 29 in fast break points is a recipe for tough offense. Although, there is probably some overlap on those two categories.
The flip side is the defense is actually not as bad as I thought it would be and has some clear ways it can improve (namely not having Dray do any more dumb and selfish stuff for this season)
Kerr quote from today's Chron article, about how they have 12 guys performing well, without any separating from the rest "... because there hasn’t been separation we’re also kind of mixing and matching, trying to find combinations that make the most sense. … We need to settle on our top nine or 10 and go from there.”
Sure that's a good problem, but who will be the two that drop from the regular rotation? The obvious rotation 10 would be Steph, Klay, Dray, Loon, Wiggs plus CP3, Saric, Moody, JK and GP2. Leaves Podz on the outside looking wistfully in, but that's not too surprising. But who's number 12? TJD?
Are there really 12 guys performing well, or is Kerr just being Mr. Nice Coach??
Well I can’t agree. He brings action that nobody else on the team is close to. Clearly still developing, with a long way to go, but building him towards greater future contribution is both good now and good later.
Kerr loved Podz’ effort while Steph was out. And even commented that the young lad really juiced his chances at a rotation spot. But will Steve remember? If he does, and Podz gets the 10th spot, who is out? Really can only be GP2 or Moody, which is hard to believe. So, maybe Podz can fight his way in, force Kerr to figure out an 11 man roatation?
There's a lot of old guys on this team - it seems like playing time should appear periodically as they get hurt and/or extra rest. But the question still remains about who's on the outside looking in when everyone's healthy.
True enough. Let’s hope ill health and rotation flubbery don’t keep the Dubs out of the playoffs. And then we’ll find out what Kerr really thinks in terms of rotation.
For the last few years, it feels like the early part of the season has been about playing different combos and experimenting. "We need to settle on our top nine or 10 and go from there" might take a while...
I could see GP2 being the odd man out for awhile. Two years ago they had floor spacing bigs in both Bjelica and OPJ and the Warriors would often sub GP2 in with Bjelica. Now they do have Saric but if they are guaranteeing Kuminga 20+ minutes a night in addition to the regular minutes for Draymond and Looney (and cameo appearances for TJD), it makes it tougher for GP2 to get on the floor. I don't think it's necessarily "fair" as he's better than Kuminga but "fairness" is not the determining factor in the regular season which is something people should keep in mind in general.
Yeah I'm not endorsing it, just prognosticating what I think could happen. It certainly might not happen. I also do think Podz' minutes get cut once Draymond is back since he's helping cover for Draymond's absence as a ballhandler and the Warriors would probably prefer a bit more size out there once they have said second ballhandler back.
I would read it as Kerr saying he's comfortable playing any of those 12 guys but that NBA teams run 9-10 man rotations so some guys will lose out despite being worthy of playing minutes.
I can’t agree. Kerr definitely deserves SOME credit. Case in point:
13/14 Dubs win 51 games and exit in the first round. 14/15 65 wins and championship. Basically the same team (top 7 minute getters). New coach with new plan. Thank you Kerr.
Every team has roster changes every year. So this is a straw man. And one could easily argue that the Dubs have had the most stable core team of the last 20 years. Yes moving parts every year but that is the NBA.
Kerr has weaknesses, we all know that. But he has built a system around Steph, Klay, Dray (and to a lesser extent Igoudala) that has had a remarkable run of success. To deny Kerr credit for that seems to be short of memory.
We can agree to disagree. Reading back over your initial comment I think I responded to both the text and subtext. But I will continue to disagree without the ad hominem attacks.
You can see CP3 not grabbing the ball immediately, pretending to do other things although that piece of shit (now "our" piece of shit) knew exactly what type of legalized cheating he was partaking in. Don't have the rest of the clip but you can see the beginning of it.
Here, you can see Curry score the ball with 2:21 remaining and 10 seconds on the shot clock:
2:46-2:21=25 seconds that elapsed between the end of those two possessions despite the Warriors only using 14 seconds of the shot clock, which means CP3 bled 11 seconds off the clock just by standing there and knowing the refs wouldn't call anything if he sold it.
Taking advantage of the very inconsistently applied delay of game rules to give the Warriors a better chance to win the game, the type of tax loophole-ass winning play that will never show up in the box score and a MASSIVE contrast to what Poole did.
Lol at the boosting. The game clock draining when no basketball is being played is a pretty lame rule imo and I hope they change it. Why deprive us of more gametime!
I actually think it's a tough issue for the NBA because they should be trying to make the games shorter, not longer. But then teams are starting to do pretty egregious time wasting things like this which is bad for the game so how do you stop this:
Can you empower refs to make this some sort of "against the spirit of the game" violation? Or will that be too difficult for refs to legislate or too easy for refs to abuse their power? I dunno.
I can't find it but there was one instance where the team on offense used two players to screen defenders from being able to get to the ball, one of the defenders eventually runs into one of the screeners and was called for a foul.
Yep, I think it was. This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thoK0or6uuQ has them doing it one time with just Grant Williams running interference but I haven't found a video where it was two players (Jaylen Brown and Williams?) and the other player ended up fouling one of them.
I'm sure there is a reason why they don't start the shotclock right away though, because it does seem like the natural thing to do but then that likely means the current set up was done intentionally for some reason.
Feels like a bug honestly... the shot clock was invented to prevent teams from just holding the ball when they have the lead (*cough* soccer *cough*) which is effectively what Ja is doing here.
But it was invented back in the 50s so I guess they didn't foresee "letting the ball roll slowly" as a safe and viable offensive strategy.
I think it only fair that any fool who posted "Poole party!" during Jordan's height of success with the Warriors present themselves and explain whether they saw coming the extent of Poole's current really excruciating play and attitude; under the dubious premise that any who stood by him in good times must now be excoriated in bad times. Count off.
Man, when Poole's 3-point shot was on, those were fun times. Loved the Poole parties.
I'm honestly disappointed that he hasn't been balling out like that in the Eastern conference where he's safely not a threat to us except 2 games a year.
Although I was busy lurking, I was all in with the Poole Party. I think as with most of Dub Nation, I believed in his work ethic and competitiveness. I'd like to point out that the following is only an opinion based on my observations: Due to said work ethic, I thought he would maintain and dare I say, improve on his 3pt shots, while his competitiveness would propel him to work on and improve his defense just like Steph did, since I thought he was emulating Steph. But I was wrong. I think success and the accompanying accolades might have gone to his head, making hm overconfident Unlike Steph, I think he may have thought he was better than some of the team's other players and showed it with his attitude and his play. I do wish him well and hope he finds a balance between the joy and the competition in playing basketball.
JP hasn’t been good on the Wizards, but it’s getting blown way out of proportion imo. And I’m getting frustrated with the people who keep selectively editing videos to make him look worse.
Like the timeout where he “ignores” Wes Unseld was complete bs. They just cut parts out of the video to make it look like he didn’t learn the play.
The clip from last night where he “ruins the comeback” by not starting the shot clock for 8 seconds, that cuts out the shot he makes right after doing so.
Poole has just been designated a convenient punching bag online, especially post-punch, and its not fair to him at all.
The Poole Party was a real event which the majority of us Dub's fans attended with the exception of a selected few. I didn't sour on him completely until around this time last year. I think he'll eventually land with a team that'll show him the way but I'm still not a believer of his BBIQ
He was a warrior and went from nearly out of the G-league to contributing. Of course we all supported him at that time. Not only that, the organization kept on commenting on his work ethic.
There's no Kerr or punch to blame this season so what's the explanation for why Avdija looks like he wants to quit basketball when he shares the court with Poole?
Pretty sad about what is going on right now, TBH. I still think with the right approach, Poole could be a good player. But, far from the 'potential borderline all-star' I repeatedly called him.
Kerr on the highlight possession of the night from the excellent Slater recap:
“The ball hit the paint twice,” Kerr said. “It was drive, kick and drive, kick again. That’s the blueprint. But in order for that to happen, Klay has to get off the ball when he’s not open rather than try to beat his guy one-on-one and take a difficult fadeaway. That’s what we’re trying to focus on.”
Kerr wasn't entirely happy with Klay's night though:
“He made a couple early and then he immediately took two bad shots,” Kerr said, referring to those two post-ups. “So I did not sense it early. I just reminded him: If you’re not open, just move it. Look at these guys on the team who will get you the ball.”
On sticking with Klay & Wiggins:
“I’m really patient,” Kerr said. “I’ve got guys who are championship players. Klay and Wiggs early on have struggled. But I’m of the opinion that we have to show patience. We know what they are. You look at Wiggs the other night, and he looked great. Our patience has been rewarded. I think you will see a different Wiggs from here on, and I think the same thing’s going to happen with Klay.”
Very much doubt anything is going to change from Kerr or Klay unfortunately - its ride or die with the old guys. That’s Kerrs philosophy and was apparent last season and no different this season
Good to see with our momentous win last night, we are stilling clinging to the last play-in spot by 1/2 game over the Clippers, and trailing NOP by only half a game for #9. 1.5 games out of the #6 spot (Lakers) to avoid the play-in.
Pacers are the most aptly named team in the NBA right now - they pace that they are playing at is insane. Wouldn't want to meet them in the playoffs, and fortunately the Dubs probably won't have to.
I'd be happy to meet the Pacers in the playoffs because that would mean we're in the NBA Finals.
Chris Paul is definitely slowing down the pace when he brings up the ball. Sometimes that's good (late game situations with the lead) but it's certainly not the fun style of play we're used to.
I want to see us push the pace more... which will maybe happen when Draymond is back. He and Steph in particular like to push it... Moody, Podziemski, and TJD seem to have some potential/inclination too as well. The other guys need to step it up and get them more outlet opportunities though.
Payton update: Guard Gary Payton II, who has missed the past two games with a strained left foot, is considered questionable for Wednesday’s game.
“He’s scrimmaging right now,” Kerr said after Tuesday’s practice. “We’re still calling him questionable because it depends on how he feels afterward.”
So you're saying there's more that just a chance?
We need someone who can stop KD so I hope GP2's available
Kuminga, Klay, Moody.
I'd like to see Kuminga on him some. He'd probably pick up some stupid fouls, but it's a good learning experience.
I'd also like to see Gui on KD, but it's probably more likely that I'd be subbed in. :)
Gui is playing in SLC with the Sea Dubs tonight, can't imagine he'd be called back for tomorrow's game
I think they've already done that at least once. Wouldn't surprise me. Not like he's going to get in the game, unless something weird happens. Basically, it's a 2 hour drive, and a walk-through/shootaround for him.
Wiggs might take a turn too.
Forgot about Wiggs. :(
He might be our best bet on KD with Draymond and GP2 out.
Klay did well with the assignment opening night, if I remember correctly.
Wednesday?
From https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/put-time-warriors-stephen-curry-adds-another-18506943.php
From The Athletic: "Blazers at Suns: Phoenix still has a chance at the West wildcard but needs to win by a lot for point-differential reasons. Luckily, they’re playing Portland, so that’s likely."
So, do the Suns care about the IST, and play the starters in the 4Q of a blow out to run up their score differential, knowing the Dubs are coming the next night? Somehow I don't see Vogel caring that much about the IST, but would be great if they wear themselves out tonight for a gimmick and lose tomorrow.
Podziemski (per 36)
15.2 pts on .611 ts
8.8 reb (!!!)
5.0 ast / 2.7 tov
+5.4 net on-off
Prettayyy good for a 20 y.o. getting his first taste of the NBA.
I was curious how his rebounding would translate. They say it's something that transfers well from college to the pros but I wasn't sure if there was some sort of tax for the level of competition in the WCC compared to a major conference. Like if you go look at CJ McCollum's numbers at Lehigh, he averaged 7.6 rebounds per 40 minutes but has only averaged 4 per 36 in the pros.
So far it seems Podz' rebounding has translated better. Just hope he can figure out how to play PG and initiate offense and all that, if he can make the switch then the sky is the limit imo.
I never look at asst/turnover ratio. That looks not great but is it unusually not good?
It's fine for a rookie. This season, Luka, Reaves, and LaMelo are all just under 2.
What's truly crazy is Tyrese Haliburton at 12.7 AST to 2.5 TO per 36 😳
Not bad at all for a 20 y.o. rookie combo guard.
Steph’s having an anomalously terrible ast/tov season by his standards, but he’s currently at 3.9 ast / 3.9 tov per 36.
Doesn't count hockey assists, though. And he's not being asked to serve as primary ball-handler as much with CP3 in there, so that could explain the lower assist numbers, although that would argue for fewer turnovers as well. The other contributor to the low assist numbers is probably the Dubs' frequently horrible shooting during the losing streak
Steph's almost a 1/2 a turnover a game higher than last year (about 15%), and that's while averaging a minute and a half less per game (per BBref).
The thing I've noticed is that he's picking up an unusual number of dribbling turnovers (at least, so it seems to me). His turnovers used to almost all be passing.
I imagine part of it is just that teams are devoting more attention to him, because for the first chunk of the season, no one else was making shots.
Some, I'm sure is the change in style. We don't run nearly as much, and he's facing set defenses. Plus, Green has been out about a 1/3 of the season, and he did a lot of the half court ball handling.
There's some truth to this ... Kerr teams are going to be higher turnover teams because they pass a lot.
That passing also buys them better shots.
but regardless, it's not like this year is different from previous years that way. We've faced a stretch of good defensive teams, and they haven't had to pay as much attention to Klay or Wiggs shooting. Plus the pace is down. I think that explains it. Certainly, Kerr's overall offenses are more than good enough offenses.
OMG. That's worse than JP!
We traded the wrong high TO combo guard :'(
*spiderman glasses meme with haliburton*
10 games!
I was skeptical during summer league but usually you aren’t this good at his age and experience - period. Wondering what his ceiling can be.
I have been daydreaming about that, too. What do folks think? Any ideas on, say, a 75th percentile comp? (I see the Haliburton shout out above—love it, but that feels like 100th percentile!)
I was going to say Malik Monk, but Brandin's already in the same ballpark (in a much smaller role tbf). I'd still say Monk with better passing is probably around his above-average outcome? I'd love to hear from others!
That's a fun one. Personally, I've been thinking something a little more jack-of-all-trades-y. Maybe something like Derrick White or Malcolm Brogdon as ambitious-but-not-crazy comps?
Def. efficiency:
1. Magic
2. Timberwolves
3. Celtics
4. Thunder
5. Knicks
6. Clippers
7. Rockets
8. Raptors
9. Nuggets
10. 76ers
...
12. Lakers
...
18. Warriors
19. Kings
20. Suns
...
26. Pacers
27. Jazz
28. Wizards
29. Spurs
30. Hornets
Off. efficiency:
1. Mavericks
2. 76ers
3. Pacers
4. Bucks
5. Celtics
6. Hawks
7. Thunder
8. Nuggets
9. Suns
10. Jazz
...
13. Warriors
14. Kings
15. Clippers
...
23. Lakers
...
26. Bulls
27. Magic
28. Grizzlies
29. Spurs
30. Blazers
The thing that impresses me about Podz is that he seems to understand the _urgency_ of the Warriors motion offense. Other rookies do that thing where they bring the ball forward at three-quarter speed with no plan ("I'm attacking, I'm attacking... no I'm not") then they toss a looping pass back to the point guard and the possession is stone dead. Perhaps unfairly I call it a "Pat McCaw". JK does it less now, but Podz just seems to know that if you move fast the defense will give you a half-step somewhere, and then if you move (and think) still faster you can keep it open, claw it open, and somewhere someone will get a look. Did he learn that here, or has he always played like that?
Yes, he does. I like how often he initiates some kind of secondary action even off-ball. Not content to just stand around.
Low-key, one of the things I miss about Damion Lee is he was kind of the same way.
This is a great insight. So often I watch guys bring the ball up slowly and am wondering, wtf are you doing, do,you have no plan at all? With CP3, Steph, Dray, even Looney it seems like when they bring the ball up they are watching/waiting/planning for a play that is developing in front of them. In the absence of this kind of future vision, urgency/speed can also give options.
Moody did that I’m-attacking-no-I’m-not thing a bit too much, but he seems to have cut that way back.
Even offball, when a play looks stagnant, you can see him doing the thumb thing telling another player to take the screen he is setting up.
Regarding Sengun, one thing I think people aren't acknowledging is that he's grown like 2 inches since he was drafted. Which makes a huge difference for him and wasn't something that was necessarily predictable (although can always be a nice bonus for young players).
I was down with the idea of drafting Sengun but I think the lamentations about missing on drafting him at least need to acknowledge that his NBA career is probably going differently without the growth spurt.
Yeah, I remember thinking he was undersized for a guy that unathletic. He’s definitely bigger and more athletic and is looking like he’s going to be a really good case scenario.
That explains a lot.
I was thinking that he looked a lot bigger than he did when we were doing the draft tournament.
> "When we first drafted Giannis, we measured him at 6-foot-8½," Bucks GM John Hammond says. But at midseason, the Bucks' strength and conditioning coach walked into Hammond's office. "He told me, 'The kid is still growing and I don't think he's done.'" By season's end, he was 6-11.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14927328/milwaukee-bucks-f-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-most-exceptional-body
I don't know how much you can factor in "potential to grow" into your draft decisions since it's really a roll of the dice... but it can make a huge difference...
Get growth plate data?
I was seriously hoping JK would still have a growth spurt in him. He was drafted young enough that it was a distinct possibility.
In fairness, even at 5’-11” Giannis would have been better than Anthony Bennett.
Davion Mitchell too.
That’s… a deadly stray…
Explain One Date:
Very awesome personality connection, notsomuch physical. I want to hang out more but feel I’d be leading her on if I’m not attracted. Dating is weird.
I'd suggest being upfront about it, thus giving your date the chance to decide where to go moving forward. Personally, I always appreciated honesty when I was still dating so if after 3 dates and there wasn't enough to move forwards, I'd tell my date. It would be up to them if they wanted to stay friends or drop everything and move on.
Edit: Additionally, physical attraction is overrated and need intimacy as a counterweight.
“You’re really cool and I’d like to hang out again, especially if you bring some hot friends along.”
You’re welcome.
Hey Goofus, I tried this on my wife and she didn’t take it so well. What now?
Ask her why she doesn't have any hot friends?
Not a bad way to get your feet wet dating again, I would say.
For sure, and new friendships are always welcome.
Whoa! 👏🏻
I don't think I'd enjoy this tribe and subscribe if it was just about basketball 🙏
Warriors stats after 15 games:
Offense:
12 in points scored (113.9)
30 in points in paint (39.1)
29 in fastbreak points (10.3)
13 in offensive efficiency
26 in shooting % (44.5%)
15 in three point % (36.1%)
26 in two point % (51.0%)
3 in off. rebound % !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (29.0%)
17 in def. rebound % (75.4%)
13 in total rebound % (50.9%)
5 in opponent blocks!!!!!!!!!!! (3.8)
18 in opponent steals (7.9)
7 in assists!!!!!!! (27.4)
20 in turnovers (14.6)
Defense:
15 in points allowed (113.5)
15 in opponent points in paint (48.9)
8 in opponent fastbreak points!!!!!! (13.4)
18 in defensive efficiency
15 in opponent shooting % (46.4%)
14 in opponent three point % (35.5%)
11 in opponent two point % (52.9%)
27 in blocks (3.5)
19 in steals (7.5)
12 in opponent assists (24.9)
22 in opponent turnovers (13.5)
Does 5 in opponent blocks mean we’re getting blocked 5th most or 5th least?
5th least
Hard to get blocked when all your shots are from the outside lol
Wendy disagrees
Thanks spell check.
Exactly.
Man, 30 in points in the paint combined with 29 in fast break points is a recipe for tough offense. Although, there is probably some overlap on those two categories.
The flip side is the defense is actually not as bad as I thought it would be and has some clear ways it can improve (namely not having Dray do any more dumb and selfish stuff for this season)
Kerr quote from today's Chron article, about how they have 12 guys performing well, without any separating from the rest "... because there hasn’t been separation we’re also kind of mixing and matching, trying to find combinations that make the most sense. … We need to settle on our top nine or 10 and go from there.”
Sure that's a good problem, but who will be the two that drop from the regular rotation? The obvious rotation 10 would be Steph, Klay, Dray, Loon, Wiggs plus CP3, Saric, Moody, JK and GP2. Leaves Podz on the outside looking wistfully in, but that's not too surprising. But who's number 12? TJD?
Are there really 12 guys performing well, or is Kerr just being Mr. Nice Coach??
Kuminga should be the odd man out but won’t be for political reasons.
Well I can’t agree. He brings action that nobody else on the team is close to. Clearly still developing, with a long way to go, but building him towards greater future contribution is both good now and good later.
Based on Podz trajectory from preseason to now after just 10 games, he seems destined for a rotation role.
I think he and TJD instill confidence in Kerr like few rookies can.
Kerr loved Podz’ effort while Steph was out. And even commented that the young lad really juiced his chances at a rotation spot. But will Steve remember? If he does, and Podz gets the 10th spot, who is out? Really can only be GP2 or Moody, which is hard to believe. So, maybe Podz can fight his way in, force Kerr to figure out an 11 man roatation?
There's a lot of old guys on this team - it seems like playing time should appear periodically as they get hurt and/or extra rest. But the question still remains about who's on the outside looking in when everyone's healthy.
True enough. Let’s hope ill health and rotation flubbery don’t keep the Dubs out of the playoffs. And then we’ll find out what Kerr really thinks in terms of rotation.
For the last few years, it feels like the early part of the season has been about playing different combos and experimenting. "We need to settle on our top nine or 10 and go from there" might take a while...
I could see GP2 being the odd man out for awhile. Two years ago they had floor spacing bigs in both Bjelica and OPJ and the Warriors would often sub GP2 in with Bjelica. Now they do have Saric but if they are guaranteeing Kuminga 20+ minutes a night in addition to the regular minutes for Draymond and Looney (and cameo appearances for TJD), it makes it tougher for GP2 to get on the floor. I don't think it's necessarily "fair" as he's better than Kuminga but "fairness" is not the determining factor in the regular season which is something people should keep in mind in general.
GPII has always been a +/- monster. I'd be hesitant to minimize his role.
Yeah I'm not endorsing it, just prognosticating what I think could happen. It certainly might not happen. I also do think Podz' minutes get cut once Draymond is back since he's helping cover for Draymond's absence as a ballhandler and the Warriors would probably prefer a bit more size out there once they have said second ballhandler back.
If GP2 gets less court time, I'm just going to assume it's about monitoring his health for the long regular season.
And/or maximizing minutes for Jon and Moses to help accelerate their development.
We hopefully won't need much of GP2's monster +/- to get a good seed, so this would be a double benefit
I'd read that more as just ... we don't have anyone on the fringe of the rotations standing out positively or negatively.
I would read it as Kerr saying he's comfortable playing any of those 12 guys but that NBA teams run 9-10 man rotations so some guys will lose out despite being worthy of playing minutes.
I can’t agree. Kerr definitely deserves SOME credit. Case in point:
13/14 Dubs win 51 games and exit in the first round. 14/15 65 wins and championship. Basically the same team (top 7 minute getters). New coach with new plan. Thank you Kerr.
Every team has roster changes every year. So this is a straw man. And one could easily argue that the Dubs have had the most stable core team of the last 20 years. Yes moving parts every year but that is the NBA.
Kerr has weaknesses, we all know that. But he has built a system around Steph, Klay, Dray (and to a lesser extent Igoudala) that has had a remarkable run of success. To deny Kerr credit for that seems to be short of memory.
I liked your post about dating though.
We can agree to disagree. Reading back over your initial comment I think I responded to both the text and subtext. But I will continue to disagree without the ad hominem attacks.
https://dubnationhq.com/p/post-game-dubs-win-klay-hits-some/comment/44051816
Boosting this tweet about Poole not knowing the rules and wasting time when he wanted to save time.
Also I'd like to bring attention to something Chris "The Feds" Paul did last night. Sengun scores the ball with 2:46 remaining to trim the lead to 8:
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=612&GameID=0022300224&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Sengun%204%27%20Layup%20(26%20PTS)%20(VanVleet%2014%20AST)
You can see CP3 not grabbing the ball immediately, pretending to do other things although that piece of shit (now "our" piece of shit) knew exactly what type of legalized cheating he was partaking in. Don't have the rest of the clip but you can see the beginning of it.
Here, you can see Curry score the ball with 2:21 remaining and 10 seconds on the shot clock:
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=614&GameID=0022300224&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Curry%204%27%20Cutting%20Layup%20Shot%20(28%20PTS)%20(Saric%202%20AST)
2:46-2:21=25 seconds that elapsed between the end of those two possessions despite the Warriors only using 14 seconds of the shot clock, which means CP3 bled 11 seconds off the clock just by standing there and knowing the refs wouldn't call anything if he sold it.
Taking advantage of the very inconsistently applied delay of game rules to give the Warriors a better chance to win the game, the type of tax loophole-ass winning play that will never show up in the box score and a MASSIVE contrast to what Poole did.
They have been talking about changing this rule for a while and now that the Dubs are doing it I would suspect it to change this summer.
Truth is though that the opposing team could prevent these kind of shenanigans by pressing. I don't know why they don't.
You risk getting blown by and creating a 5 on 4 situation.
Lol at the boosting. The game clock draining when no basketball is being played is a pretty lame rule imo and I hope they change it. Why deprive us of more gametime!
I didn't realize that this only applies to last 1 minute in 1-3 quarters and then 2 minutes in 4th quarter.
So now it makes sense why end of games seem to go on for so long.
I actually think it's a tough issue for the NBA because they should be trying to make the games shorter, not longer. But then teams are starting to do pretty egregious time wasting things like this which is bad for the game so how do you stop this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmBdQxXVPOU
Can you empower refs to make this some sort of "against the spirit of the game" violation? Or will that be too difficult for refs to legislate or too easy for refs to abuse their power? I dunno.
I can't find it but there was one instance where the team on offense used two players to screen defenders from being able to get to the ball, one of the defenders eventually runs into one of the screeners and was called for a foul.
I remember that yeah. Can't recall which team it was but would not be surprised at all if it was Memphis.
Boston… it was Boston
Yep, I think it was. This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thoK0or6uuQ has them doing it one time with just Grant Williams running interference but I haven't found a video where it was two players (Jaylen Brown and Williams?) and the other player ended up fouling one of them.
This one is easy. Just start the shot clock when the ball touches a player or the ground. The CP3 one is trickier, imo.
I'm sure there is a reason why they don't start the shotclock right away though, because it does seem like the natural thing to do but then that likely means the current set up was done intentionally for some reason.
Feels like a bug honestly... the shot clock was invented to prevent teams from just holding the ball when they have the lead (*cough* soccer *cough*) which is effectively what Ja is doing here.
But it was invented back in the 50s so I guess they didn't foresee "letting the ball roll slowly" as a safe and viable offensive strategy.
I think it only fair that any fool who posted "Poole party!" during Jordan's height of success with the Warriors present themselves and explain whether they saw coming the extent of Poole's current really excruciating play and attitude; under the dubious premise that any who stood by him in good times must now be excoriated in bad times. Count off.
1. ME
Man, when Poole's 3-point shot was on, those were fun times. Loved the Poole parties.
I'm honestly disappointed that he hasn't been balling out like that in the Eastern conference where he's safely not a threat to us except 2 games a year.
Although I was busy lurking, I was all in with the Poole Party. I think as with most of Dub Nation, I believed in his work ethic and competitiveness. I'd like to point out that the following is only an opinion based on my observations: Due to said work ethic, I thought he would maintain and dare I say, improve on his 3pt shots, while his competitiveness would propel him to work on and improve his defense just like Steph did, since I thought he was emulating Steph. But I was wrong. I think success and the accompanying accolades might have gone to his head, making hm overconfident Unlike Steph, I think he may have thought he was better than some of the team's other players and showed it with his attitude and his play. I do wish him well and hope he finds a balance between the joy and the competition in playing basketball.
JP hasn’t been good on the Wizards, but it’s getting blown way out of proportion imo. And I’m getting frustrated with the people who keep selectively editing videos to make him look worse.
Like the timeout where he “ignores” Wes Unseld was complete bs. They just cut parts out of the video to make it look like he didn’t learn the play.
The clip from last night where he “ruins the comeback” by not starting the shot clock for 8 seconds, that cuts out the shot he makes right after doing so.
Poole has just been designated a convenient punching bag online, especially post-punch, and its not fair to him at all.
The Poole Party was a real event which the majority of us Dub's fans attended with the exception of a selected few. I didn't sour on him completely until around this time last year. I think he'll eventually land with a team that'll show him the way but I'm still not a believer of his BBIQ
He was a warrior and went from nearly out of the G-league to contributing. Of course we all supported him at that time. Not only that, the organization kept on commenting on his work ethic.
That's exactly the kind of story fans love.
I know. I miss those days not just for performance but for narrative
At the height of Poole-sanity, I thought (and probably wrote) that the Poole Party lineup was the best five-man unit in the NBA.
So … co-signed.
I am still a JP fan. I feel last season was a combo of being punched out likely due to Kerrs poor coaching issues. Hope he comes around
There's no Kerr or punch to blame this season so what's the explanation for why Avdija looks like he wants to quit basketball when he shares the court with Poole?
Good luck with that. I have taken the charter directly away and your island is in the rear view mirror, fading across the horizon
What if we did it fewer than 1,000 times*?
(*Probably)
2. mi
Pretty sad about what is going on right now, TBH. I still think with the right approach, Poole could be a good player. But, far from the 'potential borderline all-star' I repeatedly called him.
Kerr on the highlight possession of the night from the excellent Slater recap:
“The ball hit the paint twice,” Kerr said. “It was drive, kick and drive, kick again. That’s the blueprint. But in order for that to happen, Klay has to get off the ball when he’s not open rather than try to beat his guy one-on-one and take a difficult fadeaway. That’s what we’re trying to focus on.”
Kerr wasn't entirely happy with Klay's night though:
“He made a couple early and then he immediately took two bad shots,” Kerr said, referring to those two post-ups. “So I did not sense it early. I just reminded him: If you’re not open, just move it. Look at these guys on the team who will get you the ball.”
On sticking with Klay & Wiggins:
“I’m really patient,” Kerr said. “I’ve got guys who are championship players. Klay and Wiggs early on have struggled. But I’m of the opinion that we have to show patience. We know what they are. You look at Wiggs the other night, and he looked great. Our patience has been rewarded. I think you will see a different Wiggs from here on, and I think the same thing’s going to happen with Klay.”
More at the link: https://theathletic.com/5079467/2023/11/21/klay-thompson-warriors-rockets/
That's pretty forthright about Klay. More than I would expect Kerr to say publicly. Hopefully, Klay's listening.
Very much doubt anything is going to change from Kerr or Klay unfortunately - its ride or die with the old guys. That’s Kerrs philosophy and was apparent last season and no different this season
You’re missing the point, I think. Kerr is explaining that:
1. He’s being patient with Klay finding his rhythm.
2. Klay took good shots and made them, which he liked seeing.
3. Klay then tried to “be hot” and took bad shots, which disappointed Kerr
4. Kerr hopes Klay learns to pass out of tough shots, and trust his teammates to get the ball back to him in better spots.
Agreed, but I'd make #4 even stronger - Kerr isn't just hoping. He says "that's what we're trying to focus on." Coaching mostly happens between games.
Finally!!!!!
Good to see with our momentous win last night, we are stilling clinging to the last play-in spot by 1/2 game over the Clippers, and trailing NOP by only half a game for #9. 1.5 games out of the #6 spot (Lakers) to avoid the play-in.
😂😂😭😭
https://twitter.com/ImABallJunkie/status/1726834838098051140
The gift that keeps on giving