The day of reckoning has come. The Golden State Warriors are in New York to face a Brooklyn Nets team that boasts two men who will forever be tied to the Golden Dynasty: Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant.
Irving was the man who hit the shot over Stephen Curry to seal the death of the 73-win Warriors. Durant was the former rival turned franchise hero who helped the Warriors bury the LeBron James-era Cavaliers forever.
Now, those two living legends have teamed up in Brooklyn, aligned in opposition to the Splash Bros and Draymond Green, in a race for championships in the prime of their careers.
Wait, Kyrie and KD aren’t playing today? And neither are Steph and Klay? They’re all injured??? Wow, okay. Well who is playing tonight? Draymond and — OMG THAT’S D’ANGELO RUSSELL’S MUSIC!!! The former Nets’ star is in back in NY!
As trade rumors swirl around the NBA, Russell’s name has been linked from the Timberwolves to the Knicks. But tonight, he’s the leading Warriors’ scorer (23.8 PPG) and he’s back in Brooklyn looking to lay the smackdown. He led the Nets to the playoffs last season before being sent to Golden State in the KD move.
Also, Glenn Robinson III and Alec Burks are not playing tonight, per Marc Stein. #traderelated
Given that second year of Dre's extension is team option and he has sat out more than half this season and probably will sit out more games, what are the chances Dubs trade for him next season?
I guess it would depend on what SF market looks like next year, how spry he looks like in POs this season and if Dubs have something worth giving to Miami (unless Andre forces Miami's hands just like this year).
these are the times I start to consider 30-point rules: if two teams are 30+ points apart after 3 quarters, coaches limited to using their rookies first in the 4th, followed by 2d yr, 3rd yr etc., to field a team. :-)
Well, he was 19 when drafted; 20, when he came back to Greece after a stint in Sacramento where they were collecting centers and got little development. Now, 22, he is starting to show, particularly on the National Team.
I kinda like this deal for Memphis. Got a first with Andre, then offloaded him for Winslow. They kept their first and got younger in the process (although Winslow is injury prone).
I think both Andre and the Grizzlies come out as winners here. But the salaries still don't match up (Andre's $17 million vs. Winslow's $13 million), so there have to be more pieces involved that we don't know of yet.
"Contract for Justise Winslow is $13M per year over 3 seasons with a team option in 2021/22. Heat still have to send out close to $4.2M in salary. This deal will certainly expand into more players/salary."
I wonder in retrospect if we keep Andre and then ship him out mid-season for Waiters Island and James Johnson and a young player and or draft pick plus get to keep our 24 pick, if this isn't a wash with the deals involving Russell currently being discussed.
Granted we probably won't see a final iteration until the off-season so there's a good opportunity we met positive value come out BUT with Iggy off the table next year something tells me 2021-2022 is the year the Warriors are setting themselves up to go back all in.
There was no way the Warriors would've kept Andre and did the sign-and-trade for D-Lo. Either one or the other. Sign-and-trades place a hard cap, so they needed to offload a big contract to make it possible.
Warriors would've lost KD for nothing in return. Personally, I prefer getting a young All-Star in return for KD rather than the possibility of keeping Andre, then using him as a trade piece for role players and/or picks. That's just me, though.
If both of them are gone, we are going from #30 seed to - oh wait #30 seed. It's going to get even more painful to watch. At least Steph is on the horizon.
Quite simply, terrible on both ends of the floor. An abysmal 2-of-22 on 3s (9.1 percent). Allowing 49 percent shooting from the Nets. Severely outrebounded (28 for the Nets to 17 for the Dubs).
Memphis has agreed to a deal to send Andre Iguodala to Miami, league source tells ESPN. Iguodala agreed to trade and has agreed to a two-year, $30M extension with Miami.
Anyways on Evans. I said it since first game in Summer league last year. He doesn't have the NBA 3 point range. Saw it right there when he gave up a wide open 3 to move up 5 feet
So I'm an Arizona Cardinals fan (loosely now because I don't really follow the NFL any longer). Every single year I used to ask How the hell are they so unable to defend the opposing team's tight end. Like every game the other teams tight end would have a career game
Anyways that's how I feel about this Warriors team this year. How is it that game Ina ND game out they just can't defend the 3 point line. They are absolutely awful
Imo, Warriors love to overhelp inside and when the off-ball rotations aren't perfect (ie, most of the time) it means they are vulnerable to kickouts and swing passes.
Even started to see some of it last year as they seemed vulnerable to giving up that weakside corner 3.
He could come back as a FA next season if the price is right. If you could grab an early 2nd round pick for either one it makes more sense than seeing them walk anyway when the season is over.
My people, let us gather together and mourn this lowest point in a season full of low points
https://www.letsgowarriors.com/p/post-game-thread-of-mourning-warriors/comments
I'm impressed. Over 100 comments for an absolute shit show on a weeknight
Top players:
1: Looney
2: Paschall
3: Russell
HM: Poole
Given that second year of Dre's extension is team option and he has sat out more than half this season and probably will sit out more games, what are the chances Dubs trade for him next season?
I guess it would depend on what SF market looks like next year, how spry he looks like in POs this season and if Dubs have something worth giving to Miami (unless Andre forces Miami's hands just like this year).
Geezus.
DLo: 0/8 threes
Lee: 1/7
Paschall: 2/5
Chriss: 1/4
Bench unit: 0/10
Can't make 3s and can't get to the rim.
Yikes
these are the times I start to consider 30-point rules: if two teams are 30+ points apart after 3 quarters, coaches limited to using their rookies first in the 4th, followed by 2d yr, 3rd yr etc., to field a team. :-)
Both, Burks GRIII sit,Dubs 30-something points down. Looks like we are going for a lock on that 30th lottery pick-around 16% is it?
14% And sadly, in a draft bereft of a Georgios Pappagianis type of talent
Well, he was 19 when drafted; 20, when he came back to Greece after a stint in Sacramento where they were collecting centers and got little development. Now, 22, he is starting to show, particularly on the National Team.
7'3" with 7'6" w-span...all he needs is a bit of TLC/development....
I kinda like this deal for Memphis. Got a first with Andre, then offloaded him for Winslow. They kept their first and got younger in the process (although Winslow is injury prone).
I think both Andre and the Grizzlies come out as winners here. But the salaries still don't match up (Andre's $17 million vs. Winslow's $13 million), so there have to be more pieces involved that we don't know of yet.
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@jphanned
Grizzlies core:
Ja Morant, 20
Jaren Jackson Jr., 20
Brandon Clarke, 23
Justise Winslow, 23
Dillon Brooks, 24
De'Anthony Melton, 21
Tyus Jones, 23
Incredible job by the Grizzlies front office.
Isn't matching allowed up to 125% +$100K?
Per Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42
"Contract for Justise Winslow is $13M per year over 3 seasons with a team option in 2021/22. Heat still have to send out close to $4.2M in salary. This deal will certainly expand into more players/salary."
Ah. Thanks.
I wonder in retrospect if we keep Andre and then ship him out mid-season for Waiters Island and James Johnson and a young player and or draft pick plus get to keep our 24 pick, if this isn't a wash with the deals involving Russell currently being discussed.
Granted we probably won't see a final iteration until the off-season so there's a good opportunity we met positive value come out BUT with Iggy off the table next year something tells me 2021-2022 is the year the Warriors are setting themselves up to go back all in.
There was no way the Warriors would've kept Andre and did the sign-and-trade for D-Lo. Either one or the other. Sign-and-trades place a hard cap, so they needed to offload a big contract to make it possible.
Minor pedantic correction (I lost a bet on that): Sign-and-trades place a hard cap "on receiving team".
That's not what I was referring to though. I'm saying Never getting DLo do we get more value long term in just keeping and trading Iguodala?
Warriors would've lost KD for nothing in return. Personally, I prefer getting a young All-Star in return for KD rather than the possibility of keeping Andre, then using him as a trade piece for role players and/or picks. That's just me, though.
Oh, right. Trade deadline is tomorrow at 12pm.
Wait, tomorrow?!
Genuinely curious where both GR3 and Burks are going. GR3 makes sense in Dallas for our second round draft pick. Burks though? Maybe Philly?
If both of them are gone, we are going from #30 seed to - oh wait #30 seed. It's going to get even more painful to watch. At least Steph is on the horizon.
Anyone could use them. That's why everyone assumed they'd be gone. Wing players that can shoot are in high demand
Warriors at half vs. BRK:
ORtg: 88.2
DRtg: 127.7
NetRtg: -39.5
eFG%: .360
TS%: .418
Quite simply, terrible on both ends of the floor. An abysmal 2-of-22 on 3s (9.1 percent). Allowing 49 percent shooting from the Nets. Severely outrebounded (28 for the Nets to 17 for the Dubs).
Sarcasm font:
Trade DLo tomorrow
End sarcasm font
DLo for KD at halftime?
Halftime stats:
Warriors:
34.0% shooting (17/50 FGs)
2/22 three pointers
11/14 FTs
22 rebounds (5 off.)
9 assists
2 turnovers
Nets:
49.0% shooting (25/51 FGs)
9/21 three pointers
9/11 FTs
35 rebounds (7 off.)
15 assists
7 turnovers
Paschall has the Warriors only made 3s so far...
Per Woj:
Memphis has agreed to a deal to send Andre Iguodala to Miami, league source tells ESPN. Iguodala agreed to trade and has agreed to a two-year, $30M extension with Miami.
Gotta give props to Dre get this kind of money in his waningv years
It's the biceps
Lol! That and those M*Fkn hands
Lol
I think Miami overpaid Iguodala.
Second year is reportedly team option
Ah! That makes more sense.
Looks like no Iguodala reunion next year
He can come back on his TE.
lol, that would be hilarious
I was thinking he may come back on Minimum to Dubs next year. How wrong was I !
Keep Burks and GR3, trade everyone else...
Paschall: Am I a joke to you?
Haha, he can stay. Steph, Klay and Dray$ too.
Loon-hater!
FGs and FTs:
Warriors: 10/28, 1/12 threes, 8/10 FTs
Nets: 18/32, 8/14 threes, 8/10 FTs
1/16 on 3pt now
We were able to shoot well against the Cavs and the Wizards because of their poor defense. Against the Nets? Well....
4 in opponent shooting % !!!!!!!!!!!! (44.3%)
14 in opponent three point % (35.4%)
2 in opponent two point % !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (49.3%)
Evans/Poole getting more minutes and taking 3s instead of Robinson and Burks is part of horrendous 3pt%
Wasn't Evans strong suit coming out of college was NBA ready defense? Wasn't Poole's his outside jumper?
Anyways on Evans. I said it since first game in Summer league last year. He doesn't have the NBA 3 point range. Saw it right there when he gave up a wide open 3 to move up 5 feet
Spot on.
So I'm an Arizona Cardinals fan (loosely now because I don't really follow the NFL any longer). Every single year I used to ask How the hell are they so unable to defend the opposing team's tight end. Like every game the other teams tight end would have a career game
Anyways that's how I feel about this Warriors team this year. How is it that game Ina ND game out they just can't defend the 3 point line. They are absolutely awful
Imo, Warriors love to overhelp inside and when the off-ball rotations aren't perfect (ie, most of the time) it means they are vulnerable to kickouts and swing passes.
Even started to see some of it last year as they seemed vulnerable to giving up that weakside corner 3.
Fitz - We make every team look like #1 3pt shooting team. Nets arent an exception.
Looney just makes winning basketball plays...
Looney the old man on the floor at 24yo...
Loon!
I'm gonna miss GR3. Glad we kept Looney
How much longer are they gonna try to play Evans at PG and Poole at SG before they realize it should be the other way around?
Evans quick to make his presence felt
Lol, we suck
Sorry you have to see this in person Sleepy...
Oh wow that guy that gave David Lee hoof and mouth disease that one year still in the league
First year of me watching Dubs (or NBA), I used to hear Fitz's excuses and go - "oh! yeah, that makes sense'.
Since then every time Fitz comes up with a excuse for Dubs not performing/loosing, it makes me wanna throw remote at the TV.
Nets broadcast a complete 180
Unless at least one of Green or Paschall can be a 3pt threat, I'm not sure they will every work together on the floor at the same time.
Or at least with Pashcall at the 3. Maybe it would in a Green at the 5 smallball unit.
that's what the Dubs have said they want: Paschall at the 3
Well, Pashcall knows what he needs to focus on this offseason at least.
What does the slogan on the Nets' jerseys mean?
Bedford-Stuyvesant is a neighborhood in Brooklyn
Awesome start ...
a tanktastic journey into the heart of Brooklyn
Looks like a L in making. So much for DLo revenge game
Eh. Not forcing anything early on. trying to get teammates involved. I'll take this performance
Feels like a November game with the bricks and the bad defense.
Why couldn't they have held Evans out pending imminent trade?
Just keep holding him out till his contract runs out?
I ove LOVE the Brooklyn Nets court scheme colors. It makes the players pop out so well on my TV screen (tonight it's the tablet)
Hmm, Iguodala to the Heat potentially? That sounds kinda fun - but I'm not sure I totally get why he'd play for them and not the Grizz
you ever been to Miami? Also, the Heat might win the East!
I have NOT ever been to Miami, but it sounds fun...
At Barclays, watching Steph warm up. He looks great!
ayyyy Sleepy's in the building!! How does KD look?
Haven’t seen him. Staying home to avoid the emotion?
Nvm, I see him on the bench.
lmao, let me guess... tall and skinny?
Wow, Warriors holding Robinson AND Burks out because of imminent trades.
I'm sad, I really was hoping we could keep Robinson around
He could come back as a FA next season if the price is right. If you could grab an early 2nd round pick for either one it makes more sense than seeing them walk anyway when the season is over.
my guess is that it's as much about the picks as the tax relief. Warriors love those second rounders
We only know they are in talks, right? No guarantee they will both be shipped out...
I saw "advanced talks" but I really don't know how much stock to put in any of this
He's about to be traded?
He scared of KD, Ernie!
He's battling some Tank-itis