DNHQ Rooting Guide: (1) Oklahoma City vs. (5) Dallas; plus open thread
New guys vs slightly less new guys
See the master index at Dub Nation HQ Rooting Guide For Other Teams
Oklahoma City Thunder
Ex-Warriors
None
Friends
None.
Unrequited Love
Jalen Williams was the runner-up in our 2022 DNHQ Draft Tournament, barely losing. There wasn’t a good chance that he’d drop to #28, but OKC took no chances by grabbing him unexpectedly high at #12.
A lot of people wanted Josh Giddey in 2021 (he was just edged out in the second round by Bouknight of all people). Envy might be lessened after Giddey’s weird scandal.
Parts of Dub Nation really wanted to acquire Isaiah Joe.
Warriors Villains
The whole OKC franchise, which was born out of oil fracking moguls defrauding Seattle out of their Supersonics team.
Also, the OKC fans were the ones going nuts in the KD GSW days with the dancing cupcakes (which were actually kind of cute) and other spurned vengeance.
Petty Rivalries
They’ve all barely been in the league, no time to build up rivalries…
Team Grudges
OKC was the best team in the early GSW dynasty and an outstanding foil to bring out the best from Game 6 Klay Thompson and Steph Curry. Also thanks to OKC for alienating Kevin Durant, and hosting Russell Westbrook's peak petulant stat-padding seasons. But now OKC went through a long rebuild and collected a zillion draft picks, so who can really be too mad today. The current group of players seem likable enough.
Dallas Mavericks
Ex-Warriors
Tim Hardaway Jr is the son of Warriors great… wait for it… Tim Hardaway.
Friends
For completeness, I will list Coach Jason Kidd’s local connection to Cal basketball and growing up in Oakland.
Warriors Villains
None, yet.
Petty Rivalries
Luka Doncic was hailed as the successor and supplanter of Steph and everyone else for MVP consideration. Despite eye-popping box scores, somehow his teams have never gotten over the hump to the Finals. Luka’s flopping game seems to be getting more prominent as he gets to play more important games.
Kyrie Irving. Hit the Finals-winning shot in 2016, then
forced his way out of Cleveland to get away from all the LeBron-stan reporters wanting him to appreciate LeBron’s being his father figure(?!?!),
got more of a reputation as a team-killer by joining a strong Celtics team and dragging it down,
perplexed everyone with his dedication/trolling about flat-earth crackpotism,
conspired with KD to form a superteam with the Nets,
endangered the public by publicly being anti-vaccination while torpedoing the Nets season by not getting shots,
was so unprofessional and annoying that he triggered James Harden into blowing up the superteam,
and dragged down the 2023 DAL team out of the playoffs.
So on balance, even though KI has been a public menace, basketball-wise, Kyrie has done huge amounts for the GSW cause by sabotaging outstanding rival teams. There is an argument about whether Kyrie, Harden of Kawhi deserves the Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend prize.Mark Cuban has had some back and forth with Draymond and others, but it doesn’t seem specifically about the Warriors. He even said KD joining the Warriors was good for the NBA.
Team Grudges
If anyone should have a grudge, it’s DAL. After all, GSW most recently beat DAL in the 2022 WCF.
And before that of course, GSW We-Believed them out of the 2007 playoffs and ruined Dirk Nowitzki’s MVP season.
So, I’ve been wondering how to cover the Valkyries. We could interleave Warriors and Valkyries coverage all at DNHQ. Or I could start a Substack subsection of DNHQ, which I think is a lot like starting a new Substack
Or I could start a new site (maybe on Ghost to explore getting off Substack) and YT channel. There is something clean about a new start, but getting a critical audience mass might take a while.
Thoughts?
Was bored, did a little exercise this morning.
I parsed all-stars only, and looked at the age at which they won their first ring.
Some interesting stats:
- ~23% of all stars have won a ring (rises to almost 50% of the top 100 all-stars in terms of # of all-star selections)
- median 27 yo
- youngest: Magic Johnson (20), Kobe & Tony Parker (21)
- oldest: Kevin Willis (41), Jason Kidd (38)
To see the age distribution, see:
https://imgur.com/1RNynrs
As much as I really don't want the Celtics to win ever, it is very likely that they will at some point with Tatum and Brown, unless the salary cap wrecks their depth.
caveat: there are probably some incorrectly parsed players in there... I did some spot checks but didn't get to review everything. Overall should be mostly right.