I've zeroed in on what I think the Warriors will do with our picks.
#7 Bouknight
#14 Jared Butler
These players take care of both scoring and playmaking, things we need badly to get to the next level. I don't think the Dubs will be pulling any rabbits out of this draft like Sengun or Giddey. Butler is exactly the kind of PG we need and I pick him over Mitchell. If OKC takes Bouknight, we take Moody, another scorer with a beautiful shot. I don't think they will be trading anything, but who knows.
I think it'll be Bouknight/Kuminga and Mitchell/Murphy/Duarte based on the recent reports, and I think that'd be a pretty terrible outcome honestly. Trying to hope for the best that this front office is capable of a smokescreen. Not a huge fan of Beal but I'd rather they trade for him than do what I think they are going to do with the picks.
Although I'd certainly rather they draft Kuminga than Bouknight and Murphy than Mitchell/Duarte.
I will disagree with you. I've got Kuminga dropping past the Warriors because Bouknight is a bona fide scorer which they need now, not a project. And, do you really believe that Mitchell is a better PG than Butler???? Butler may be the best PG in the draft. Who is better?
Fran Fraschilla was on Damon Ratto and Kolsky today. He spoke highly of Bouknight, Sengun, and Moody, and Wagner (not necessarily in that order) and thought they could potentially be #7 picks. Was more reserved about Mitchell due to the usual minuses (size, age) but thought he could be a decent pick at 14. Nothing new here but just more confirmation bias for some people.
As much as I hate to Harden up a conversation, it would be interesting to add in a FT rate in conjunction with the finishing ability. Are they trying to draw/accentuate contact and hence missing the shot?
Thanks for the link. Certainly interesting. I guess it depends on how we intend to use him. My guess is he is more likely to be a floor spacing wing, so probably not as much a red flag on this warriors roster.
What is cool is how high Duarte & Kispert are in that list.
It's not often in our offense that a player is asked to iso to the rim or even try to finish off a pick and roll, his finishes will be in transition and cuts
I still think Kispert might be the pick at 14. He sur-side a lot of people at the combine with his size and athleticism. He’s 223 pounds, that’s significantly beefier than most of the guys we’re talking about.
Non Sequitur - I love Zion. I like Brandon Ingram and Lonzo. So I'm interested into what the Pelicans are going to do after this big trade and was reading up on Willie Green.
For his first coaching job he joined the Warriors about a week before Durant signed here. He was here for three seasons. Then when Monty Williams was hired in Phoenix Green went to join his staff for two years.
Pretty wild for a young assistant to go to four Finals in five years heading into his first coaching job.
Someone was meeting with James Bouknight in the midtown Manhattan steak house where I had lunch. Not sure if that was the Knicks or who it was- couldn’t recognize the GM- but I was amused
IMO, You don’t make that deal until you know who’s going to be there/not there at 14. And there are lots of good players that may be there at 14, but won’t be there at 19.
Unless they plan to trade 7 away or they only want 7 on the roster and want to draft-and-stash a couple guys later in the round.
I agree with Hammy below; 14 seems like a sweet spot. There should at least one good shooter (Moody, Wagner, Duarte, Kispert, Mann, Murphy) available, which would be nice if they pick a non-shooter (Barnes, Sengun, Giddey, Kuminga) at 7.
I agree 14 is a sweet spot, but 19/21 is a secondary sweet spot... still some interesting players likely to be available who would be in consideration at 14: Jaden Springer, Kai Jones, Trey Murphy, Garuba, maybe even Butler.
I don't know if I would have done it, but interesting offer!
Out of that list of 5 players, the Warriors won't like all of them. Unless they know their desired player will be available, a trade down from 14 is unlikely.
I don't know, I think that's a deal you gotta do. You can always try to flip one of those picks for a rotation player and take the "win now" player at a more justifiable draft position.
I feel like we’re pushing it with our roster spots as it as. Just drafting two rooks and developing them while adding enough vets to keep the Big 3 happy will likely require booting Paschall, Mulder, Smiley, and maybe one of Bazemore/Lee from the 15-man. I totally get opting for quality over quantity.
If keeping Steph happy is part of the equation, I would thinking keeping his sister and brother-in-law in town would be part of the plan. Even keeping his Buddy Baze (if he’ll take another minimum deal) would seem smart.
Yeah I wouldn't want them to use both 19 and 21 if they made that trade. I'd try to trade one of those picks for a Justin Holiday level player or something. But it's easier said than done of course.
Watched the Chad Ford / Hollinger pod, and Hollinger, despite his intense UVA fandom, is very down on Trey Murphy. He says Murphy just can’t do ANYTHING with the ball except spot up 3s and defense.
It's really rare to have a high volume, high efficiency 3P shooter who's that big and switchy on D. The release looks quick.
He was the 3rd option on that Virginia team behind two other stretch bigs that might not get drafted.
The team seemed to have very weak guards. I can't say I watched Virginia games, but is it his fault he's not great with the ball? Or just a weird lineup where the three best players are big guys playing patty cake with the ball around the perimeter with no creator who's attacking the rim and kicking out.
The rebounding, block and steal numbers aren't good. Maybe his rebounding numbers held down by the other two bigs, and maybe the block/steal more reflective of Virginia's conservative D system?
Overall I'd say you just have to be really realistic about his limitations, but the rarity of his size and elite 3P shooting as a true 3 and D guy makes him definitely a worthy pick around 14. There's so many lineups he can be a good part of.
Not really seeing the downside there TBH. A 6’10” guy who can defend and drain 3’s sounds really good to me. I’d have no problem with guys like Moody, Murphy, Duarte because they look like switchable defenders who can shoot. Murphy’s age would be a tie-breaker over Duarte. Could easily see a Mannion (or vet min/MLE), Poole, Moody, Duarte, Wiseman 2d unit being pretty good by mid-year ‘22-23.
Hah. I just watched the Mike Schmitz video breakdown with Murphy — in which he came off as an incredibly engaging and smart dude, on top of being 6-10 with switchable D, quick feet, slick-looking handles, and arguably the best long-range jumper in the draft — and was gonna come here and openly question why he wasn’t being considered in the top 10.
Was almost set in my mind that Moody and Murphy were my guys at #7 and #14 … and now here comes Hollinger to blow it all up!
Was also very impressed by Schmitz’s interview with Wagner, so I guess it’s back to Wagner at #7 and Moody at #14 (if he falls) or Duarte (if he does not)?
I haven’t spent much time on Murphy as it seems like with all the guys we’re talking about at 7, one should still be there at 14, but I’m with you regarding the Schmitz interview; really engaging, a bit of a dry quick-wit and good self-analysis. I see a bit of Michael Porter Junior. And yeah, the session with Schmitz doesn’t align with Hollinger’s comments.
Of note: He measured 6’7.5” and 206, so he’s smaller than I thought.
Oh no, mpj was a dominant 3 level scorer in high school with great footwork, moves and a variety of moves to score, from what I saw Murphy almost looks like a Center doing anything other then catch n shoot
When I watched his scouting report, for the first 8 out of 10 minutes I was basically thinking "how is this guy not ranked higher?!" and then you see his lowlights and go "oh, I see".
For a guy that seems to have such a good touch from spot up catch-n-shoots, it's surprising how awkward his other shots (pull-up, step-back, pump fake + side step, etc.) look. His shot becomes flat and feels forced...
Yeah, he doesn't really seem to do anything except those spot up threes.
I don't know, other than maybe Jared Butler, I don't think any of these older guys they are supposedly considering at 14 are worthy of the pick. And Butler might not be the ideal fit next to Poole, and also might have health issues. I'd much rather take my chances with Jalen Johnson, Keon Johnson, or Ziaire Williams.
If the Warriors turned down 19 and 21 for 14 just to take an upperclassman, that's a bad decision imo.
I think it's hard to know who will be available at 14, and 19 and 21 for that matter. Some mocks have Moody at 15 (don't ask me how ha), Sengun at 16, Ziaire at 18...
There is so much Beal smoke right now. I guess Bob holds out for Beal until the draft night, and maybe makes a trade on the clock with someone??
That being said I wouldn't be surprised if everything except core + JW is on the table for Beal. I could see something like Wiggs + Poole + EP + 7 + 14 + 2 future 1st getting over the line for WAS.
Going back to Mark Jackson’s team, defense has always been a priority and everyone who arrives here is expected to give effort, even super stars like Steph and KD. It’s why Draymond took David Lee’s job. I don’t know whether Beal fits that profile.
Oddly enough, I've been watching a series on Peacock about the current Olympic team ("For Ball and Country" -- oof) and there's a bit where Beal specifically mentions he wants to focus on getting better at defense. Got an eyebrow raise out of me.
Looks like Memphis wants to target Kuminga or Bouknight after the trade up. I hope OKC bites because that means Barnes will definitely fall to us... but then that'll leave us with a dilemma. I want both Barnes and Moody damn it.
I wonder if speaking english is a consideration for draft position... not speaking the language has to be a huge hurdle if you're expecting a player to come in and contribute year 1... (watching Sengun's interview w/ Mike Schmitz)
I don't see why language has to be a big issue. It could be a minor hassle at first, but guys can learn a few key words (like for switching on D). Hitting your shots, finding the open man, and setting a good screen (which the Ws communicate with a hand signal, IIRC) work in any language.
Something keeps popping up in this generationally strong draft. NBA executives likely wouldn’t trade last year’s 12 pick for this year’s 7 pick and nobody seems interested in any pick outside the top 5. Was it all just Cunningham hype, which makes the T-Wolves top-3 protection enough to disqualify that as an asset, or did players underperform so dramatically this covid year that there are a ton of steals out there?
> NBA executives likely wouldn’t trade last year’s 12 pick for this year’s 7 pick
But that's because it was Haliburton specifically. The Kings presumably wouldn't trade last year's #12 pick for any of the 2020 lottery picks except #1 and #3 either, at least not at this point. And the Suns would presumably trade last year's #10 pick for this year's #14 pick.
I wonder about Memphis, that was a ton of salary they took on for a very good player. Did contract talks stall out for next year and they wanted to get value? Did they not just offer him for #7?
You need more than a pick to trade for JV, but JV's salary is not too expensive. He was due $14M this coming season. Cheap, cheap, cheap, for a player of his ilk. I've wanted him for years. He was one of the reasons Memphis went as far as they did this past season. Adams can't do what JV does.
JV deserves to make more at some point. The Warriors would be a dominant team with him, IMO. Lacob will pay for someone like that, methinks. We have never had a C like that on our team.
Val is not a great fit unless we are committed to dealing Wiseman. Trading for V with Wiseman on the roster would seriously depress Wisemans trade value by making it obvious the warriors don’t believe in him and want to move him.
I would take Barnes if he were available. I wouldn’t take Kuminga, but I would understand if the front office takes him if he’s available. Between the two, I would choose Barnes.
> Sources: The Grizzlies are interested in moving up again after acquiring the 10th pick from the Pelicans.
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> Jonathan Kuminga or James Bouknight are potential targets for Memphis with another trade-up. Going live on @SpotifyGrnroom to discuss this and more about the 2021 NBA Draft:
I think you could ask for your own back or one of their other team picks. Asking for a Memphis pick is kind of a weird insult that might hurt the ability to make a deal.
Highly doubt they do that but obviously we'd jump all over that. If it's Anderson, something like 7 + 14 for 10 + Anderson might not be an overpay (though he is an expiring now so you'd want reassurances about re-signing).
I might be wrong on this (very very far from a cap expert lol) but the Lakers might be able to cobble together a 20-30 million a year sign and trade with Schroeder, THT, Kuzma, KCP etc.
It would be a pretty weird move for a team that just made the Finals to facilitate a sign and trade of their best player to a team that's probably their biggest rival. And in doing so making said rival a major favorite in the conference.
I guess it's not impossible if they see no other way to get assets back, but it would be really weird.
The only reason why the Suns do that would be to regain assets (combination of Schroeder, THT, KCP + picks) instead of losing Paul for nothing (if he tells them he is leaving).
Would it be possible for some other team with cap-space to sign Paul and then trade him to the Lakers?
I've zeroed in on what I think the Warriors will do with our picks.
#7 Bouknight
#14 Jared Butler
These players take care of both scoring and playmaking, things we need badly to get to the next level. I don't think the Dubs will be pulling any rabbits out of this draft like Sengun or Giddey. Butler is exactly the kind of PG we need and I pick him over Mitchell. If OKC takes Bouknight, we take Moody, another scorer with a beautiful shot. I don't think they will be trading anything, but who knows.
I think it'll be Bouknight/Kuminga and Mitchell/Murphy/Duarte based on the recent reports, and I think that'd be a pretty terrible outcome honestly. Trying to hope for the best that this front office is capable of a smokescreen. Not a huge fan of Beal but I'd rather they trade for him than do what I think they are going to do with the picks.
Although I'd certainly rather they draft Kuminga than Bouknight and Murphy than Mitchell/Duarte.
I just hope that whatever they do, they're basing it on a lot more information that what we have access to and that they end up being right :D
That said I hope that they pick Sengun/Wagner and Kispert/Butler/Duarte cause then I can be right too, and that's always fun.
I'd honestly prefer Wagner/Duarte. Get us a stretch big who fits our scheme + a plug in play G/SF depth.
I like Wagner but I don't see the Dubs picking Wagner because they need an immediate shooter and someone will take him between 7 and 14.
I will disagree with you. I've got Kuminga dropping past the Warriors because Bouknight is a bona fide scorer which they need now, not a project. And, do you really believe that Mitchell is a better PG than Butler???? Butler may be the best PG in the draft. Who is better?
Fran Fraschilla was on Damon Ratto and Kolsky today. He spoke highly of Bouknight, Sengun, and Moody, and Wagner (not necessarily in that order) and thought they could potentially be #7 picks. Was more reserved about Mitchell due to the usual minuses (size, age) but thought he could be a decent pick at 14. Nothing new here but just more confirmation bias for some people.
Is this a red flag for Moody’s upside? https://twitter.com/shot_quality/status/1418229439201259520?s=21
As much as I hate to Harden up a conversation, it would be interesting to add in a FT rate in conjunction with the finishing ability. Are they trying to draw/accentuate contact and hence missing the shot?
Thanks for the link. Certainly interesting. I guess it depends on how we intend to use him. My guess is he is more likely to be a floor spacing wing, so probably not as much a red flag on this warriors roster.
What is cool is how high Duarte & Kispert are in that list.
It's not often in our offense that a player is asked to iso to the rim or even try to finish off a pick and roll, his finishes will be in transition and cuts
I still think Kispert might be the pick at 14. He sur-side a lot of people at the combine with his size and athleticism. He’s 223 pounds, that’s significantly beefier than most of the guys we’re talking about.
Non Sequitur - I love Zion. I like Brandon Ingram and Lonzo. So I'm interested into what the Pelicans are going to do after this big trade and was reading up on Willie Green.
For his first coaching job he joined the Warriors about a week before Durant signed here. He was here for three seasons. Then when Monty Williams was hired in Phoenix Green went to join his staff for two years.
Pretty wild for a young assistant to go to four Finals in five years heading into his first coaching job.
Someone was meeting with James Bouknight in the midtown Manhattan steak house where I had lunch. Not sure if that was the Knicks or who it was- couldn’t recognize the GM- but I was amused
So, did Bouknight share the steak or did he just hog it up for himself
He’s sometimes shares his steak, but that’s pretty rare.
Well done
Stop it, both of you
Ok ok I promise to end the beef
Seemed a bit like a black hole, actually. Also poor food security
> A source says the Knicks have made calls to late-lottery teams about trading up. I'm told the Warriors turned down Nos. 19 and 21 for No. 14.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2946272-2021-nba-draft-buzz-a-swing-for-the-no-1-pick-lottery-movers-and-shakers
IMO, You don’t make that deal until you know who’s going to be there/not there at 14. And there are lots of good players that may be there at 14, but won’t be there at 19.
That’s an intriguing deal for sheer value in this specific draft, though GSW prob doesn’t want 3 rookies on a win now roster
Unless they plan to trade 7 away or they only want 7 on the roster and want to draft-and-stash a couple guys later in the round.
I agree with Hammy below; 14 seems like a sweet spot. There should at least one good shooter (Moody, Wagner, Duarte, Kispert, Mann, Murphy) available, which would be nice if they pick a non-shooter (Barnes, Sengun, Giddey, Kuminga) at 7.
I agree 14 is a sweet spot, but 19/21 is a secondary sweet spot... still some interesting players likely to be available who would be in consideration at 14: Jaden Springer, Kai Jones, Trey Murphy, Garuba, maybe even Butler.
I don't know if I would have done it, but interesting offer!
Out of that list of 5 players, the Warriors won't like all of them. Unless they know their desired player will be available, a trade down from 14 is unlikely.
I don't know, I think that's a deal you gotta do. You can always try to flip one of those picks for a rotation player and take the "win now" player at a more justifiable draft position.
I don't know which team trades a rotation player for a #19 pick.
If you had a trade lined up for one of the picks it might make sense.
Otherwise 14 seems like a nice sweet spot of value. Good chance to get someone who would be in consideration at 7.
I feel like we’re pushing it with our roster spots as it as. Just drafting two rooks and developing them while adding enough vets to keep the Big 3 happy will likely require booting Paschall, Mulder, Smiley, and maybe one of Bazemore/Lee from the 15-man. I totally get opting for quality over quantity.
Technically, Bazemore (and Oubre)are pre-booted.
If keeping Steph happy is part of the equation, I would thinking keeping his sister and brother-in-law in town would be part of the plan. Even keeping his Buddy Baze (if he’ll take another minimum deal) would seem smart.
Yeah I wouldn't want them to use both 19 and 21 if they made that trade. I'd try to trade one of those picks for a Justin Holiday level player or something. But it's easier said than done of course.
*and booting Oubre
Although if the reports have been smokescreens and they take a guy like Ziaire or Jalen Johnson at 14, I'm fine with them not making the trade.
Gross. No thank you.
Zaire or johnson at 14 with moody at 7 would be an awesome draft
now Jared Butler at 19 and Ziaire at 21.... 🤔
Watched the Chad Ford / Hollinger pod, and Hollinger, despite his intense UVA fandom, is very down on Trey Murphy. He says Murphy just can’t do ANYTHING with the ball except spot up 3s and defense.
He's a really unique prospect.
It's really rare to have a high volume, high efficiency 3P shooter who's that big and switchy on D. The release looks quick.
He was the 3rd option on that Virginia team behind two other stretch bigs that might not get drafted.
The team seemed to have very weak guards. I can't say I watched Virginia games, but is it his fault he's not great with the ball? Or just a weird lineup where the three best players are big guys playing patty cake with the ball around the perimeter with no creator who's attacking the rim and kicking out.
The rebounding, block and steal numbers aren't good. Maybe his rebounding numbers held down by the other two bigs, and maybe the block/steal more reflective of Virginia's conservative D system?
Overall I'd say you just have to be really realistic about his limitations, but the rarity of his size and elite 3P shooting as a true 3 and D guy makes him definitely a worthy pick around 14. There's so many lineups he can be a good part of.
He is the strictly 3 and D prospect that people think Moody is.
As a junior, Murphy only took 4 2PA/40 and 2 FTA/40 compared to 6.5 3PA/40.
For comparison, as a freshman Moody took 8 2PA/40 and 7 FTA/40 compared 6 3PA/40. Just way more scoring variety at a much younger age.
>despite his intense UVA fandom
Fandom can cut both ways...
Ha. Like old friend jae with Harrison Barnes (no star, but I think a good deal better than jae predicted) or Nate with Poole/Wagner?…
Exactly
Not really seeing the downside there TBH. A 6’10” guy who can defend and drain 3’s sounds really good to me. I’d have no problem with guys like Moody, Murphy, Duarte because they look like switchable defenders who can shoot. Murphy’s age would be a tie-breaker over Duarte. Could easily see a Mannion (or vet min/MLE), Poole, Moody, Duarte, Wiseman 2d unit being pretty good by mid-year ‘22-23.
Hah. I just watched the Mike Schmitz video breakdown with Murphy — in which he came off as an incredibly engaging and smart dude, on top of being 6-10 with switchable D, quick feet, slick-looking handles, and arguably the best long-range jumper in the draft — and was gonna come here and openly question why he wasn’t being considered in the top 10.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cCs6zEDT6_Y&t=1050s
Was almost set in my mind that Moody and Murphy were my guys at #7 and #14 … and now here comes Hollinger to blow it all up!
Was also very impressed by Schmitz’s interview with Wagner, so I guess it’s back to Wagner at #7 and Moody at #14 (if he falls) or Duarte (if he does not)?
Tick tick tick…
I haven’t spent much time on Murphy as it seems like with all the guys we’re talking about at 7, one should still be there at 14, but I’m with you regarding the Schmitz interview; really engaging, a bit of a dry quick-wit and good self-analysis. I see a bit of Michael Porter Junior. And yeah, the session with Schmitz doesn’t align with Hollinger’s comments.
Of note: He measured 6’7.5” and 206, so he’s smaller than I thought.
Oh no, mpj was a dominant 3 level scorer in high school with great footwork, moves and a variety of moves to score, from what I saw Murphy almost looks like a Center doing anything other then catch n shoot
I think I'd feel better about Trey if he played like a 6-9 guy, but his rebounds, block rate and steal rate look like a 6-3 guy.
When I watched his scouting report, for the first 8 out of 10 minutes I was basically thinking "how is this guy not ranked higher?!" and then you see his lowlights and go "oh, I see".
For a guy that seems to have such a good touch from spot up catch-n-shoots, it's surprising how awkward his other shots (pull-up, step-back, pump fake + side step, etc.) look. His shot becomes flat and feels forced...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Av8UNrz0k
Yeah, he doesn't really seem to do anything except those spot up threes.
I don't know, other than maybe Jared Butler, I don't think any of these older guys they are supposedly considering at 14 are worthy of the pick. And Butler might not be the ideal fit next to Poole, and also might have health issues. I'd much rather take my chances with Jalen Johnson, Keon Johnson, or Ziaire Williams.
If the Warriors turned down 19 and 21 for 14 just to take an upperclassman, that's a bad decision imo.
I think it's hard to know who will be available at 14, and 19 and 21 for that matter. Some mocks have Moody at 15 (don't ask me how ha), Sengun at 16, Ziaire at 18...
I definitely agree with that, if the Warriors are actually going to take one of those guys and not reach for a "win now contributor" like Duarte.
But Duarte is ZOOMING up draft boards! I kid... can we just do the draft already, please?
There is so much Beal smoke right now. I guess Bob holds out for Beal until the draft night, and maybe makes a trade on the clock with someone??
That being said I wouldn't be surprised if everything except core + JW is on the table for Beal. I could see something like Wiggs + Poole + EP + 7 + 14 + 2 future 1st getting over the line for WAS.
Actually, on second thoughts…that is ridiculous proposal for someone that doesn’t play defense.
Disregard this message and apologies for drinking and posting. Good evening to you all.
Going back to Mark Jackson’s team, defense has always been a priority and everyone who arrives here is expected to give effort, even super stars like Steph and KD. It’s why Draymond took David Lee’s job. I don’t know whether Beal fits that profile.
Oddly enough, I've been watching a series on Peacock about the current Olympic team ("For Ball and Country" -- oof) and there's a bit where Beal specifically mentions he wants to focus on getting better at defense. Got an eyebrow raise out of me.
Looks like Memphis wants to target Kuminga or Bouknight after the trade up. I hope OKC bites because that means Barnes will definitely fall to us... but then that'll leave us with a dilemma. I want both Barnes and Moody damn it.
Why would OKC trade down? They already have a glut of picks, more than they can use/sign.
From what I've been reading I'd say there is a chance of Moody falling to 14 but not Barnes.
I wonder if speaking english is a consideration for draft position... not speaking the language has to be a huge hurdle if you're expecting a player to come in and contribute year 1... (watching Sengun's interview w/ Mike Schmitz)
I don't see why language has to be a big issue. It could be a minor hassle at first, but guys can learn a few key words (like for switching on D). Hitting your shots, finding the open man, and setting a good screen (which the Ws communicate with a hand signal, IIRC) work in any language.
Yeah, and most of the international leagues are multi-cultural and probably have lots of "English as a common language" to begin with.
Something keeps popping up in this generationally strong draft. NBA executives likely wouldn’t trade last year’s 12 pick for this year’s 7 pick and nobody seems interested in any pick outside the top 5. Was it all just Cunningham hype, which makes the T-Wolves top-3 protection enough to disqualify that as an asset, or did players underperform so dramatically this covid year that there are a ton of steals out there?
Well, Memphis just traded into the top 10.
> NBA executives likely wouldn’t trade last year’s 12 pick for this year’s 7 pick
But that's because it was Haliburton specifically. The Kings presumably wouldn't trade last year's #12 pick for any of the 2020 lottery picks except #1 and #3 either, at least not at this point. And the Suns would presumably trade last year's #10 pick for this year's #14 pick.
I wonder about Memphis, that was a ton of salary they took on for a very good player. Did contract talks stall out for next year and they wanted to get value? Did they not just offer him for #7?
JV makes too much, Warriors wouldn't really have a salary to exchange unless they were doing a bigger trade with more players involved.
Also JV is an expiring contract so dealing the #7 pick for him might not be the best use of it.
You need more than a pick to trade for JV, but JV's salary is not too expensive. He was due $14M this coming season. Cheap, cheap, cheap, for a player of his ilk. I've wanted him for years. He was one of the reasons Memphis went as far as they did this past season. Adams can't do what JV does.
$14m is a tough salary to match and would probably have to include Wiseman and 7’s (or Looney’s) salary. That’s too much for one year of JV.
Signing-and-trading Oubre would likely skyrocket their salary and taxes.
JV deserves to make more at some point. The Warriors would be a dominant team with him, IMO. Lacob will pay for someone like that, methinks. We have never had a C like that on our team.
Val is not a great fit unless we are committed to dealing Wiseman. Trading for V with Wiseman on the roster would seriously depress Wisemans trade value by making it obvious the warriors don’t believe in him and want to move him.
I would take Barnes if he were available. I wouldn’t take Kuminga, but I would understand if the front office takes him if he’s available. Between the two, I would choose Barnes.
I feel / vote the same. Very high on Barnes.
OT Olympic stuff
Luis Scola has short, graying hair and looks more like George Clooney than Luis Scola
It’s raining on the beach volleyball match and their having troubles keeping the balls dry. May I suggest baby powder?
Men’s Gymnastics
There’s this little Russian dude competing just two weeks after Achilles surgery. WTF!?
The U.S. men’s uniforms make them look like they’re sponsored by Harley Davidson
I stand corrected
> Sources: The Grizzlies are interested in moving up again after acquiring the 10th pick from the Pelicans.
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> Jonathan Kuminga or James Bouknight are potential targets for Memphis with another trade-up. Going live on @SpotifyGrnroom to discuss this and more about the 2021 NBA Draft:
https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1419767553665249281
I don’t get that Pelicans trade from the Grizz perspective. Could V have been available for the 7th pick?
That's interesting. Lot of good young rotation guys on the Memphis roster and they have a couple extra first round picks in 2022.
They also have the Warrior 1st round pick in 2024.
Is wanting that pick back instead of the Memphis betting against themselves?
It's nice to have all your picks if you want to keep options open for a big trade.
But if you think you’re better than Memphis, isn’t their pick worth more to you and trade partners?
Oh I get what you mean.
I think you could ask for your own back or one of their other team picks. Asking for a Memphis pick is kind of a weird insult that might hurt the ability to make a deal.
Indeed they do. This seems like it could happen.
Or maybe it's Memphis trying to bait the Warriors into taking Kuminga for trade value purposes when they actually wanted Moody at 10 all along lol
I'd take Grayson Allen or Desmond Bane + 10 for 7. I don't think Memphis would.
How about Kyle Anderson or Brandon Clarke?
Highly doubt they do that but obviously we'd jump all over that. If it's Anderson, something like 7 + 14 for 10 + Anderson might not be an overpay (though he is an expiring now so you'd want reassurances about re-signing).
I'm usually pretty detached from athlete personalities, but Grayson Allen is a d*ck and I don't want him anywhere near the Warriors.
Seconded.
Out of the loop on this one -- backstory?
Wow, watching that tripping video it seems like he might have some mental health issues
I hope Lowry goes to the Sixers. There needs to be a bloodbath in the EC before a team makes it out because the West is going to be the same.
I hope CP3 bails on the Suns and goes to the Knicks or something. Get rid of a competitor.
Or he goes to the Lakers and it's a wrap assuming health lol.
Kinda sounds like DeRozan will be the guy taking the discount to play with them? Could be wrong.
Chris Paul isn't taking a 40M pay cut to go the Lakers.
I might be wrong on this (very very far from a cap expert lol) but the Lakers might be able to cobble together a 20-30 million a year sign and trade with Schroeder, THT, Kuzma, KCP etc.
That would be a great haul for Paul.
It would be a pretty weird move for a team that just made the Finals to facilitate a sign and trade of their best player to a team that's probably their biggest rival. And in doing so making said rival a major favorite in the conference.
I guess it's not impossible if they see no other way to get assets back, but it would be really weird.
The only reason why the Suns do that would be to regain assets (combination of Schroeder, THT, KCP + picks) instead of losing Paul for nothing (if he tells them he is leaving).
Would it be possible for some other team with cap-space to sign Paul and then trade him to the Lakers?
Ugh gross to think about. Paul could make it happen though if he takes less in salary... does he want that championship or that money more?
What teams can afford CP3 right now?
The Pels need a PG
He seems pretty hard up doing these interviews every couple of days.