According to the projected roster, Warriors have 8 guards, 4 SF, 2 PF, 0 Centers and only 1 player taller than 6'9. This is representative of a small college team. Please tell me they're not planning on entering the season without a Center, let alone no player over 6'10
They have 2 SF's, Wiggins and Kuminga, 2 Centers, Looney and Davis, also 2 Power Forwards, Saric and Draymond that can play Center. Their roster is just fine.
One thing I like about Lester is he just looks like a unit. Long arms, with wiry basketball muscle. That right there plus a quick release, a nice stroke and a solid motor is enough to be a solid prospect.
He won’t need to do too much on the ball most games.
This is a really great article, and it and Kareem and Bruce Lee offer a counterpoint to the equally wonderful David Foster Wallace essay "How Tracy Austin Broke my Heart" that Night Night posted yesterday: some athletes have both the ability to be transcendently great and to articulate their experience and their path. To wit: Lee and KAJ's advice to master one kick/shot through 10,000 reps rather than the reverse. People are not all one way.
Excellent article from David Aldridge and Marcus Thompson in The Athletic on Steve Kerr reuniting with his principal and teacher from his high school days in Egypt. A lot of interesting details that just makes me appreciate Kerr even more as a person and, indirectly, as a coach.
thanks for sharing, it was a great read. I also appreciated one of the links included in the story about Steve's grandparents, whose story I did not know. Here's how MT worded it:
Steph will be Secretary of State because he's so diplomatic. Looney will be Secretary of Defense. (Draymond is too much of a hothead for that job. I'm not sure what post Kerr could give Draymond.) Lacob would be Secretary of the Treasury. Klay, Secretary of the Navy. Igoudala, Secretary of Commerce. Celebrini, Surgeon General. White House Communications Director, Tim Roye. Secretary of Education, Jim Barnett. Maybe Kerr can talk Mike Brown into leaving the Kings to be his running mate as VP, although if he could wrangle Tara VanDerveer away from Stanford, I'd vote for that ticket. He'd need to add several women for top posts.
Draymond can be Press Secretary. He come out all jovial, hyping the administration’s accomplishments, but the first time there’s a question he doesn’t like, he’ll pull out the Draymond Death Stare and say, “Go ahead, ask me that question again and see what happens.”
All I know is Klay will continue where he left off in 2019 before that one game. I expect him to take the defensive side of the ball very personally this year.
The Poole at sg lineups next to Curry killed us all year, I didn't mind lamb minutes due to him playing well, it was weird he didn't get any minutes in the playoffs. Replacing Poole next to Curry in the playoffs with either lamb or kuminga would have been my preference.
Lastly, Kerr has to be held accountable for brushing the Draymond punch under the rug and barely punishing him, that was ridiculous
Well, there's a whole bunch of Curry fanatics and Klaytheists here as well. They are often ringleaders in the "Trade all the youth and bring in some proven vets like Dwight Howard and Carmelo Anthony" crowd.
Well I might agree with you there. Just talking about the neurotic obsession with Coach Kerr and nitpicking EVERY decision the guy makes. It’s really sad
The biggest weirdo on Warrior Twitter and not talking about this tweet because I didn't click on it. Also a fascist tbh but no I'm not elaborating further.
Why? Which items do you disagree with? He phrases the items aggressively, which is twitterspeak i hate, but all of the items, if raised politely, seem appropriate questions. Kerr himself is saying he had a patchy season. Fans like me are curious which parts he views as patchy, and which part are the jeans, not the patch. It's a metaphor.
Yeah this is an item of great interest to me. It wasn't one bad play, that's hyperbole. But it wasn't a million of them, either. I'm not sure we need an exact count but rather a sense from Kerr as to what his decision making process is when a young player seems hesitant -- how he thinks about finding time to get that player some confidence and try him again. Kuminga's hesitation was in the Kings series and even fans like me saw it. Also seemed like a too fast pace and bad matchups for JK. But to then not even play him meaninguful minutes against the Lakers seemed to be an overreaction. It's a slower and bigger team against whom JK had had some luck in the regular season and he was never given a chance in that series.
Kuminga ended up pretty far back in the doghouse. It makes me think there was some specific repeated mental mistake like blown defensive coverages, or perhaps an effort issue like crashing the boards, that they probably had talked about ad nauseam and Kerr lost confidence in Kuminga correcting it in the post season.
Of course, there also could’ve been an attitude issue.
I don’t disagree with all of them but most of them. His point about Moody is hilarious. Moody is slow footed and super long. He’s definitely more of a 3 than 2. And it’s not unreasonable that he play some small ball 4 (dude has like a 7’2 wingspan). The fact he lists that out and ends it with he didn’t even touch on everything is highly neurotic. It’s just basketball bro. We’ve won 4 titles.
Sure, but your second best player from the previous season AND a key rotation player missing more than half a season is pretty significant. Hell, combined they barely played half a season. I’d call that “highly impactful”.
Really liked the energy Lester brings in the summer league highlights video linked above, but to my eye there were several instances of moves that would have been called carries or travels on JP last year, plus maybe a discontinued dribble. I expect that will have to get cleaned up before he gets a full roster spot.
Glad to get LQ on a 2-way. As I said previously, I’d have been ok with him getting a regular roster spot. At a minimum, he’d be more productive than Rollins was last year. A 2-way let’s him get some SCW run and I’m thinking by next season he’d be a DLee-type contributor.
There are a lot of takes about a generational split in the Warriors but I'm curious, can anyone remember any sort of issues between the older Warrior players and Moody? I can't recall anything.
Moody not a threat via position (likely an NBA 3 in the long run), present or future salary impact on roster, nor by personality, call it maturity or the willingness to keep his trap shut while blending into the bench. No smoke, no fire. Poole and JK are the exact opposite. Both up and coming at like positions of core, both with (or projected) to have significant impact on team salary, neither willing to eat their feelings. Smoke & fire. Not putting words in your mouth, but many people may interpret the core not having an issue with Moody as some sort of proof of Poole or Kuminga's proposed immaturity, thus providing someone(s) to blame for the fractured clubhouse not named Curry, Klay or Dray. I'm all for talking up Moody, but I think a lot of people want to talk him up as a way of criticizing others (JP & JK), and I would hope people could make their criticisms (right or wrong) directly and not call "bank" while throwing an insult at Poole or JK off Moody's forehead. Again, not that this is what you are doing, but I've heard others do it enough I felt like pointing it out.
I could be remembering wrong but didn't you write something about Klay feeling threatened by Moody with his contract season coming up similar to Draymond feeling threatened by Draymond in last season's contract season? If so, I think the tweets I posted speak volumes about that not being the case and Klay looking out for Moody quite a bit.
EDIT: For what it's worth, I think you could argue Klay is a 3 post-injury as well.
I haven’t watched the Underrated doc yet (see FF’s comment below for a mini review)… but I’ll review this 5 minute clip about the 2022 playoffs. Visually nice, gives no insight, and I still watched the whole thing without a thought of stopping the video.
OT, but I watched the Underrated doc and was a bit disappointed. I'll never say no to more Steph content, and as a GS fan you probably will enjoy it, but it it really was pretty bland. Random YouTube videos get me more hyped/emotional about Steph.
Since I don't follow college ball, and it was largely about his Davidson days, I appreciated learning more. But for anyone who followed him then it didn't go too deep. The one thought it did provoke in me was: if Steph had gone to a Duke or even V Tech, would he have become who he is now? It really seems like being a legendary figure at his school flowed well into handling being a legendary NBA player. Maybe his brother isn't as talented or hard working, but it's still not that hard to imagine his career arc being similar to Seth's if he had followed that route of "being an okay guy at a great school" vs "being the superstar of the Cinderella team no one has heard of".
Edit: related to that, it also made me think about the idea of GS and developing the youth. If Curry has gone to Duke, maybe he sees barely any playing time because Freshman Curry has a lot of problems. Because he doesn't get playing time, he learns slower, and still has the same problems in sohpmore, junior year etc. Not unlike Kuminga, Moody, Wiseman, etc of GS. Does this mean Coach K is terrible at developing players, hates the youth? Or does it just mean the expectation on him every year is the win the whole thing, and he needs to prioritize playing the guys who are ready to contribute the most to that in the present.
Oh, you mean former UCLA scoring legend Kevon Looney? As solid a player as he is today, and as the Warriors long-term investment in this young man proves, he's a stud. I could go on all day about what an offensive force he could have been sans horrific injuries. #loonatical
Yeah I watched it. No one throws down a wide open dunk resulting from a Steph to Draymond on the short roll like Looney. Basically he stands in the dunker's spot and tries to be seen. Works for me.
I watched some but seemed mostly to be him scoring, which is disappointing because LOON means so much more than that. But I am happy in these tough times that at least Dub nation can agree on LOON (and Curry) if no one else.
According to the projected roster, Warriors have 8 guards, 4 SF, 2 PF, 0 Centers and only 1 player taller than 6'9. This is representative of a small college team. Please tell me they're not planning on entering the season without a Center, let alone no player over 6'10
They have 2 SF's, Wiggins and Kuminga, 2 Centers, Looney and Davis, also 2 Power Forwards, Saric and Draymond that can play Center. Their roster is just fine.
Are we there yet?
Lester is gonna look real good next season running the fast break with the rest of the big club.
#dnhqrules
One thing I like about Lester is he just looks like a unit. Long arms, with wiry basketball muscle. That right there plus a quick release, a nice stroke and a solid motor is enough to be a solid prospect.
He won’t need to do too much on the ball most games.
Yeah, he definitely /looks/ like an NBA player.
Not sure if anyone posted this already, but interesting stuff from KAJ on Bruce Lee and a bit about training:
https://kareem.substack.com/p/bruce-lee-and-me
This is a really great article, and it and Kareem and Bruce Lee offer a counterpoint to the equally wonderful David Foster Wallace essay "How Tracy Austin Broke my Heart" that Night Night posted yesterday: some athletes have both the ability to be transcendently great and to articulate their experience and their path. To wit: Lee and KAJ's advice to master one kick/shot through 10,000 reps rather than the reverse. People are not all one way.
Absolutely wonderful. Thank you!
"For me, my hook shot was the one kick practiced 10,000 times."
Excellent article from David Aldridge and Marcus Thompson in The Athletic on Steve Kerr reuniting with his principal and teacher from his high school days in Egypt. A lot of interesting details that just makes me appreciate Kerr even more as a person and, indirectly, as a coach.
https://theathletic.com/4696030/2023/07/21/steve-kerr-egypt-cac-summer-league/?source=pulsenewsletter&campaign=7284871
thanks for sharing, it was a great read. I also appreciated one of the links included in the story about Steve's grandparents, whose story I did not know. Here's how MT worded it:
"Steve’s grandparents, Stanley and Elsa Kerr, had helped rescue and provide care for thousands of Armenian refugees fleeing the Armenian Genocide of 1915-23, including helping to establish a relief orphanage at Nahr Ibrahim in Lebanon, about 30 miles north of Beirut." link: https://theathletic.com/810537/2019/02/11/thompson-on-a-night-steve-kerr-wont-forget-the-armenian-community-reminds-him-his-grandparents-will-never-be-forgotten/
I will always be ready to vote for Steve Kerr for president.
Steph will be Secretary of State because he's so diplomatic. Looney will be Secretary of Defense. (Draymond is too much of a hothead for that job. I'm not sure what post Kerr could give Draymond.) Lacob would be Secretary of the Treasury. Klay, Secretary of the Navy. Igoudala, Secretary of Commerce. Celebrini, Surgeon General. White House Communications Director, Tim Roye. Secretary of Education, Jim Barnett. Maybe Kerr can talk Mike Brown into leaving the Kings to be his running mate as VP, although if he could wrangle Tara VanDerveer away from Stanford, I'd vote for that ticket. He'd need to add several women for top posts.
I will vote for Steph curry to be the “minister of happiness”
Draymond can be Press Secretary. He come out all jovial, hyping the administration’s accomplishments, but the first time there’s a question he doesn’t like, he’ll pull out the Draymond Death Stare and say, “Go ahead, ask me that question again and see what happens.”
Indeed I thought of that one too. And then he can go into his spiel about "new media" until the mainstream media folks forget what their question was.
All I know is Klay will continue where he left off in 2019 before that one game. I expect him to take the defensive side of the ball very personally this year.
https://twitter.com/Sheridanblog/status/1682558193895866368?s=20
Is this guy on drugs? Lol
The Poole at sg lineups next to Curry killed us all year, I didn't mind lamb minutes due to him playing well, it was weird he didn't get any minutes in the playoffs. Replacing Poole next to Curry in the playoffs with either lamb or kuminga would have been my preference.
Lastly, Kerr has to be held accountable for brushing the Draymond punch under the rug and barely punishing him, that was ridiculous
I doubt The Punch punishment was up to Kerr alone; I'd be pretty confident that Myers and Lacob had a lot to say about that.
I don't see no lies tbh
The moody at pf thing is weird but that's about it imo
TLDR lol
Lol what an idiot
That guy isn’t a Warriors fan. He’s a Curry fanatic and that frames everything he does
Well, there's a whole bunch of Curry fanatics and Klaytheists here as well. They are often ringleaders in the "Trade all the youth and bring in some proven vets like Dwight Howard and Carmelo Anthony" crowd.
Not familiar with that crowd
> Not familiar with that crowd
Lucky you!
> Is this guy on drugs? Lol
His observations are spot on. Are you suggesting that in today's America you have to be on drugs to tell the truth? If so, you may be right.
First one's free!
Well I might agree with you there. Just talking about the neurotic obsession with Coach Kerr and nitpicking EVERY decision the guy makes. It’s really sad
It's painfully obvious the guy just has an axe to grind
The biggest weirdo on Warrior Twitter and not talking about this tweet because I didn't click on it. Also a fascist tbh but no I'm not elaborating further.
Do tell
Why? Which items do you disagree with? He phrases the items aggressively, which is twitterspeak i hate, but all of the items, if raised politely, seem appropriate questions. Kerr himself is saying he had a patchy season. Fans like me are curious which parts he views as patchy, and which part are the jeans, not the patch. It's a metaphor.
Kuminga was benched in the playoffs "due to one bad play." ...?
Maybe just twitterspeak, but quite an extreme opinion... although maybe he really does have the knowledge???
Yeah this is an item of great interest to me. It wasn't one bad play, that's hyperbole. But it wasn't a million of them, either. I'm not sure we need an exact count but rather a sense from Kerr as to what his decision making process is when a young player seems hesitant -- how he thinks about finding time to get that player some confidence and try him again. Kuminga's hesitation was in the Kings series and even fans like me saw it. Also seemed like a too fast pace and bad matchups for JK. But to then not even play him meaninguful minutes against the Lakers seemed to be an overreaction. It's a slower and bigger team against whom JK had had some luck in the regular season and he was never given a chance in that series.
I was surprised he wasn't given a chance on Lebron. Truthfully, I had been looking forward to that matchup.
Kerr literally said he'd play against lebron and other big superstar wings lol
Kuminga ended up pretty far back in the doghouse. It makes me think there was some specific repeated mental mistake like blown defensive coverages, or perhaps an effort issue like crashing the boards, that they probably had talked about ad nauseam and Kerr lost confidence in Kuminga correcting it in the post season.
Of course, there also could’ve been an attitude issue.
I don’t disagree with all of them but most of them. His point about Moody is hilarious. Moody is slow footed and super long. He’s definitely more of a 3 than 2. And it’s not unreasonable that he play some small ball 4 (dude has like a 7’2 wingspan). The fact he lists that out and ends it with he didn’t even touch on everything is highly neurotic. It’s just basketball bro. We’ve won 4 titles.
In ‘21-22 the Warriors had 12 regular roster guys play more than 41 games (half a season).
With so many guys hurt, out and unplayable last season, they only had 9.
Just having Wiggins and GP2 around for a whole season would still the biggest offseason upgrade, in this commenter’s wonderfully humble opinion.
Isn't it rather rare for any team to go without injuries to rotation players?
Sure, but your second best player from the previous season AND a key rotation player missing more than half a season is pretty significant. Hell, combined they barely played half a season. I’d call that “highly impactful”.
Really liked the energy Lester brings in the summer league highlights video linked above, but to my eye there were several instances of moves that would have been called carries or travels on JP last year, plus maybe a discontinued dribble. I expect that will have to get cleaned up before he gets a full roster spot.
Glad to get LQ on a 2-way. As I said previously, I’d have been ok with him getting a regular roster spot. At a minimum, he’d be more productive than Rollins was last year. A 2-way let’s him get some SCW run and I’m thinking by next season he’d be a DLee-type contributor.
There are a lot of takes about a generational split in the Warriors but I'm curious, can anyone remember any sort of issues between the older Warrior players and Moody? I can't recall anything.
https://twitter.com/EricPMusselman/status/1682580063076724737
EDIT: "I wouldn't be here if I didn't love this guy"
https://twitter.com/moonysluv/status/1682765033996992512
https://twitter.com/ARHoopScoop/status/1682566280639836162
Moody not a threat via position (likely an NBA 3 in the long run), present or future salary impact on roster, nor by personality, call it maturity or the willingness to keep his trap shut while blending into the bench. No smoke, no fire. Poole and JK are the exact opposite. Both up and coming at like positions of core, both with (or projected) to have significant impact on team salary, neither willing to eat their feelings. Smoke & fire. Not putting words in your mouth, but many people may interpret the core not having an issue with Moody as some sort of proof of Poole or Kuminga's proposed immaturity, thus providing someone(s) to blame for the fractured clubhouse not named Curry, Klay or Dray. I'm all for talking up Moody, but I think a lot of people want to talk him up as a way of criticizing others (JP & JK), and I would hope people could make their criticisms (right or wrong) directly and not call "bank" while throwing an insult at Poole or JK off Moody's forehead. Again, not that this is what you are doing, but I've heard others do it enough I felt like pointing it out.
I could be remembering wrong but didn't you write something about Klay feeling threatened by Moody with his contract season coming up similar to Draymond feeling threatened by Draymond in last season's contract season? If so, I think the tweets I posted speak volumes about that not being the case and Klay looking out for Moody quite a bit.
EDIT: For what it's worth, I think you could argue Klay is a 3 post-injury as well.
I think Moody will be the only one from our 2020/21 drafts on the roster next year.
Steph waited till he was a superstar before telling the media how frustrated he was getting benched for Acie Law…
Draymond listed Looney as the most professional one of his teammates. But amazingly, he listed Moody second.
Nope. He seems Loony-esque in his ability to be liked by everyone.
Anyone know if we have any current/former dubs playing in pro-ams this summer? I know drew league is about to start up.
I haven’t watched the Underrated doc yet (see FF’s comment below for a mini review)… but I’ll review this 5 minute clip about the 2022 playoffs. Visually nice, gives no insight, and I still watched the whole thing without a thought of stopping the video.
https://twitter.com/automaticnba/status/1682226265447596034?s=61&t=P_FoYb59qpl6sz-fj5Z51g
Interspersing clips of the same moves and plays from his college games was cool. I’m looking forward to watching the documentary.
It was surreal being able to see those games live. Seeing where he is now and all he’s accomplished gets me a little misty eyed
OT, but I watched the Underrated doc and was a bit disappointed. I'll never say no to more Steph content, and as a GS fan you probably will enjoy it, but it it really was pretty bland. Random YouTube videos get me more hyped/emotional about Steph.
Since I don't follow college ball, and it was largely about his Davidson days, I appreciated learning more. But for anyone who followed him then it didn't go too deep. The one thought it did provoke in me was: if Steph had gone to a Duke or even V Tech, would he have become who he is now? It really seems like being a legendary figure at his school flowed well into handling being a legendary NBA player. Maybe his brother isn't as talented or hard working, but it's still not that hard to imagine his career arc being similar to Seth's if he had followed that route of "being an okay guy at a great school" vs "being the superstar of the Cinderella team no one has heard of".
Edit: related to that, it also made me think about the idea of GS and developing the youth. If Curry has gone to Duke, maybe he sees barely any playing time because Freshman Curry has a lot of problems. Because he doesn't get playing time, he learns slower, and still has the same problems in sohpmore, junior year etc. Not unlike Kuminga, Moody, Wiseman, etc of GS. Does this mean Coach K is terrible at developing players, hates the youth? Or does it just mean the expectation on him every year is the win the whole thing, and he needs to prioritize playing the guys who are ready to contribute the most to that in the present.
> If Curry has gone to Duke, maybe he sees barely any playing time because Freshman Curry has a lot of problems.
Uh . . . Coach K plays freshmen.
Where all my Loonatics at?!
Warriors released his season highlight film: https://youtu.be/lKFNnrWBnUI (I dig this young man so much.)
His drive at 2:50 is great
Oh, you mean former UCLA scoring legend Kevon Looney? As solid a player as he is today, and as the Warriors long-term investment in this young man proves, he's a stud. I could go on all day about what an offensive force he could have been sans horrific injuries. #loonatical
Loon, all day, every day, even Mother's day.
THE GOD
WE HERE FOR LOONGOD!
I didn't click it but my guess is i will see rebounds without jumping, layups without flair, defense without fouling and EXCELLENCE WITHOUT HYPE
That about right?
Actually, lots of cuts resulting in dunks.
Yeah I watched it. No one throws down a wide open dunk resulting from a Steph to Draymond on the short roll like Looney. Basically he stands in the dunker's spot and tries to be seen. Works for me.
Well, I saw a lot of PnR as well.
I watched some but seemed mostly to be him scoring, which is disappointing because LOON means so much more than that. But I am happy in these tough times that at least Dub nation can agree on LOON (and Curry) if no one else.
If it's a proper highlight reel, it should also contain screens that stole men's souls