Lots have been said and more will be said about Wiseman, but his future looks very bright. He is BIG out there. I really think the best comp will eventually be Embiid, including missing so much time early in his career. He showed a bit of everything that you'd want to see out of him (dunking, floor running, blocks, rebounding, some nice touch on some shots) while clearly showing he has a lot of room to grow.
He still muffed a few passes, and his defense is coming along but he clearly looks like he's thinking through everything that he does. It reminded me of HB in how you could almost see his brain going "okay, now after this happens, I'm supposed to move here, and then go here" rather than just doing it freely in the flow of the game. It's completely understandable at his stage, but he'll certainly need to grow beyond that. What this does show me is that he is trying really hard to work within the flow of Kerr's system. That will come. When it does???
Imagine if Wiseman/Poole/Moody/Kuminga develop the same sort of long term rapport as Steph/Klay/Draymond/Andre? The sky is really the limit for this group if they are able to stay together long term. And I know several of you will throw PBJ into the mix as well. It's insane to legitimately have a young core who could grow into a stellar starting five. Will all five stick around long term? Probably not, but the potential is there!
I think a Stockton and Malone comp could actually be a really great example of what we *could* see out of say Poole and Wiseman. Very different players, for sure, but that sort of connection long term would keep this team competing at a high level for another decade plus. I also don't think that Curry, Draymond, and Andre have had this legitimate of a lob threat to play with since... McGee??? I think this season is going to be lots of fun, mixed with lots of growing pains!
Wiseman just scored 20 points against NBA talent!!! I don't care that it was an exhibition game... I'm really high on the kid.
I remember a few days back where someone (not a DNHQ'er) was saying our top six players were really good, but that any second unit that contains Kuminga, Moody, and Wiseman was kind of ugly.
I wonder what they think tonight.
Looks like the core of a pretty good second unit to me. I stand by my comment at the time that Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman, Poole, Klay is an effing great second unit.
If the game had ended at halftime I would have already called it the Wiseman and DDV show, but then they came out in the 3rd and raised the bar.
I just loved how Wiseman played tonight, he moved so comfortably and always seemed to be in the right position. He let things come to him and was dominant when the moment came.
Great showings from PBJ and Rollins as well, both have my attention.
Alright I know I’ve become a bit of a Patrick Baldwin height truther but there’s no way the man is 6’10 currently. I saw a clip of him standing next to Wiseman and he was almost if not the same height and Wiseman is a legit 7 feet. My guess is he’s grown an inch or two since the combine
Think about his yearly activity. At the draft, with picks so high that seem to belong where prime numbers don't exist anymore, he always manages to bring home some excellent prospects, if not simply outright future all stars. Then, he rummages tirelessly into the FA market leftovers until he brings home enough excellent vets at minimum salary to frighten Jacques Cousteau with our bench's depth. Then a few future HoFs come knocking at his door for a well deserved big bag, and despite this starting a NBA-fueled luxury tax chain reaction that rivals the Tsar Bomba, he manages to keep them happy and motivated and smiling at japanese press and flying on Saitama hardwood.
And after all this, including resizing again and again and again the Chase trophy deck to contain new ones, he never gets a quantum of the recognition and gratitude that he deserves.
Great to see the bench bring their energy and talent to the fight. So much to be optimistic about especially Wiseman and DiVicenzo. Wiseman slammin' and jammin'. Divi dishing, shooting, and rebounding. They can slide in Poole, JFK, Moody, and J Green, and the defense should hold and the offense doesn't suffer. Nice. Very nice.
Even the guys that are on the fringes show some nice talent. Rollins ain't shy, and PBJ looks to be a natural shooter who could develop a deadly perimeter game ala Klay. Defense is another matter but I'll leave that till after the exhibition season with more looks at the players. Several will be playing in Santa Cruz as we need to retool that team. I think that Rollins and J. Robinson could actually make the roster. Both bring a lot of energy and aggressiveness. Rollins needs to work on his finishes. He can get to the basket at will but couldn't finish. His rebounding was impressive but not sure about his defense. Seems like a solid foul shooter. While Robinson looks like a vet, he could be a DLee replacement if he can shoot. He's got the hustle. PBJ looks like a soft player on D. I think he's got to shoot himself on to this team. Also looking forward see more of Trevion. He's the only other big guy who would back Looney/Wise or Dray at C. I don't think Quinones will make the team. I think this will be the final push for Q to be on the roster. He's got a chance but he needs to really step up as the competition has become greater. Let's see what happens Sunday. Maybe we'll see McClung as he should be the wild card in the race for the bench.
Random thought: what if some front office who really didn't like LeBron for some reason drafted Bronny and then decided not to sign LeBron. I think the NBA might crash and burn under the weight of the drama that would be sure to ensue!
Just watched the game, and I'm ready to sign a one-year lease for a nice place on DDV Island. This guy knows how to play the game and will fit in beautifully with the Dubs. His playmaking, rebounding, and defensive instincts really stand out and he's also a scoring threat. Not gonna buy a place on the island since I'm guessing he'll go GP2/OPJ on us and use this year to build up his value and then get his bag.
I'm amazed no one is talking about the most important revelation from the game. Weatherspoon has taken over the mantle of a two-way guard with a passable resemblance to Steph if you're watching on your phone or squint a bit. The squad is complete!
New spacious open thread at https://dubnationhq.com/p/open-thread-steph-and-klay-win-japan?sd=pf. Unless Duby has something new, this will end up being the game thread also.
Love the writing as usual Daniel.
However, as somw have noted you missed an easy opening for some godzilla and mothra references! 😀
Lots have been said and more will be said about Wiseman, but his future looks very bright. He is BIG out there. I really think the best comp will eventually be Embiid, including missing so much time early in his career. He showed a bit of everything that you'd want to see out of him (dunking, floor running, blocks, rebounding, some nice touch on some shots) while clearly showing he has a lot of room to grow.
He still muffed a few passes, and his defense is coming along but he clearly looks like he's thinking through everything that he does. It reminded me of HB in how you could almost see his brain going "okay, now after this happens, I'm supposed to move here, and then go here" rather than just doing it freely in the flow of the game. It's completely understandable at his stage, but he'll certainly need to grow beyond that. What this does show me is that he is trying really hard to work within the flow of Kerr's system. That will come. When it does???
Imagine if Wiseman/Poole/Moody/Kuminga develop the same sort of long term rapport as Steph/Klay/Draymond/Andre? The sky is really the limit for this group if they are able to stay together long term. And I know several of you will throw PBJ into the mix as well. It's insane to legitimately have a young core who could grow into a stellar starting five. Will all five stick around long term? Probably not, but the potential is there!
I think a Stockton and Malone comp could actually be a really great example of what we *could* see out of say Poole and Wiseman. Very different players, for sure, but that sort of connection long term would keep this team competing at a high level for another decade plus. I also don't think that Curry, Draymond, and Andre have had this legitimate of a lob threat to play with since... McGee??? I think this season is going to be lots of fun, mixed with lots of growing pains!
Wiseman just scored 20 points against NBA talent!!! I don't care that it was an exhibition game... I'm really high on the kid.
Been away for a minute, missed y'all. Orioles magic had my attention all summer but were unfortunately eliminated today.
Can't believe the seasons here already!!! Young guys played pretty well too based on the highlights
I remember a few days back where someone (not a DNHQ'er) was saying our top six players were really good, but that any second unit that contains Kuminga, Moody, and Wiseman was kind of ugly.
I wonder what they think tonight.
Looks like the core of a pretty good second unit to me. I stand by my comment at the time that Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman, Poole, Klay is an effing great second unit.
Just finished the game and what a treat!
If the game had ended at halftime I would have already called it the Wiseman and DDV show, but then they came out in the 3rd and raised the bar.
I just loved how Wiseman played tonight, he moved so comfortably and always seemed to be in the right position. He let things come to him and was dominant when the moment came.
Great showings from PBJ and Rollins as well, both have my attention.
James Wiseman = Dubzilla! How's that for a nickname.
https://mobile.twitter.com/warriors_jp/status/1576045615292641280
Alright I know I’ve become a bit of a Patrick Baldwin height truther but there’s no way the man is 6’10 currently. I saw a clip of him standing next to Wiseman and he was almost if not the same height and Wiseman is a legit 7 feet. My guess is he’s grown an inch or two since the combine
Awesome. I have no other words for him. Awesome.
Think about his yearly activity. At the draft, with picks so high that seem to belong where prime numbers don't exist anymore, he always manages to bring home some excellent prospects, if not simply outright future all stars. Then, he rummages tirelessly into the FA market leftovers until he brings home enough excellent vets at minimum salary to frighten Jacques Cousteau with our bench's depth. Then a few future HoFs come knocking at his door for a well deserved big bag, and despite this starting a NBA-fueled luxury tax chain reaction that rivals the Tsar Bomba, he manages to keep them happy and motivated and smiling at japanese press and flying on Saitama hardwood.
And after all this, including resizing again and again and again the Chase trophy deck to contain new ones, he never gets a quantum of the recognition and gratitude that he deserves.
But there's me, at least.
Thank you, Bob Myers. You are awesome.
Great to see the bench bring their energy and talent to the fight. So much to be optimistic about especially Wiseman and DiVicenzo. Wiseman slammin' and jammin'. Divi dishing, shooting, and rebounding. They can slide in Poole, JFK, Moody, and J Green, and the defense should hold and the offense doesn't suffer. Nice. Very nice.
Even the guys that are on the fringes show some nice talent. Rollins ain't shy, and PBJ looks to be a natural shooter who could develop a deadly perimeter game ala Klay. Defense is another matter but I'll leave that till after the exhibition season with more looks at the players. Several will be playing in Santa Cruz as we need to retool that team. I think that Rollins and J. Robinson could actually make the roster. Both bring a lot of energy and aggressiveness. Rollins needs to work on his finishes. He can get to the basket at will but couldn't finish. His rebounding was impressive but not sure about his defense. Seems like a solid foul shooter. While Robinson looks like a vet, he could be a DLee replacement if he can shoot. He's got the hustle. PBJ looks like a soft player on D. I think he's got to shoot himself on to this team. Also looking forward see more of Trevion. He's the only other big guy who would back Looney/Wise or Dray at C. I don't think Quinones will make the team. I think this will be the final push for Q to be on the roster. He's got a chance but he needs to really step up as the competition has become greater. Let's see what happens Sunday. Maybe we'll see McClung as he should be the wild card in the race for the bench.
Decky has done a great job preparing Wise. Loving the hook shot addition
Jason Timpf’s countdown #1 team is GSW https://youtu.be/uN1KICZt98k
Watching now “They’re the clear number one.”
Finally got around to watching the game.
I kind of like Quinones and Rollins. IMHO, Quinones moves his feet really well on defense.
Baldwin looked decent. The pharoah (DDV) was great. Wiseman, really good.
Let's just sit the starters next game and play the rooks/sophs/camp invites.
Random thought: what if some front office who really didn't like LeBron for some reason drafted Bronny and then decided not to sign LeBron. I think the NBA might crash and burn under the weight of the drama that would be sure to ensue!
Just watched the game, and I'm ready to sign a one-year lease for a nice place on DDV Island. This guy knows how to play the game and will fit in beautifully with the Dubs. His playmaking, rebounding, and defensive instincts really stand out and he's also a scoring threat. Not gonna buy a place on the island since I'm guessing he'll go GP2/OPJ on us and use this year to build up his value and then get his bag.
Great signing by the Dubs!
I'm amazed no one is talking about the most important revelation from the game. Weatherspoon has taken over the mantle of a two-way guard with a passable resemblance to Steph if you're watching on your phone or squint a bit. The squad is complete!