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1st 7 minutes: Steph, Klay, Wiggs, Dray, Loon

Next 3 min: Steph, Klay, Poole, Wiggs, Loon

Next 5 Min: Poole, DDV, Moody, Dray, Kuminga

Next 2 min: DDV, Moody, Wiggs, Dray, Kuminga

Next 5 min: Curry, Klay, Wiggs, Kuminga, Loon

Last 2 min: Curry, Klay, Poole, Kuminga, Dray

While ddv is hurt play Ty. Hope the 4th is garbage time in our favor 50% of the time.

Steph Curry, Wiggs, Klay~ 34

Dray~32

Loon~30

Kuminga~28

Poole~20

Moody, DDV/Ty ~14

10 player rotation that might work until Poole gets his groove back.

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Just catching up with all the Wiseman comments. I'm not a supporter or a detractor. I just want him to play with Steph, Klay and Dray long enough to confirm one way or the other whether or not he has a future with us. Imagine the pressure knowing that the next mistake is going to have you on the bench for the rest of the night. The G league isn't going to teach him anything. Neither is the second unit. I want to see him in the deep end of the pool and the only reason he sits the rest of the night is because he has accumulated 6 fouls. The guy has been overwhelmed with film and theory for years. He needs live reps against the players he should be playing against for the next decade. All I want to see is him bent over at the waist gasping for air in a timeout. And if ultimately the shoe doesn't fit, move on. No big deal. But I can't say he is a bust or won't progress while his live rep education is coming from the likes of Poole, DDV, TY, Moody, JmG & Kuminga while being Kerr's Yo-Yo. If he's going to play less than 18 minutes, make them matter. He can play a whole year in the second unit and I would still have no clue about him. Put him in the deep end before I go off the deep end. lol

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Here's how the Warriors team stats look like based on 10 games:

Offense:

3 in points scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (117.4)

25 in points in paint (44.8)

24 in fastbreak points (12.1)

17 in offensive efficiency

9 in shooting % !!!! (47.3%)

17 in three point % (35.9%)

4 in two point % !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (56.8%)

21 in off. rebound % (22.3%)

23 in def. rebound % (73.5%)

9 in total rebound % !!! (50.9%)

2 in opponent blocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (3.3)

26 in opponent steals (8.8)

3 in assists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (28.6)

30 in turnovers (16.9)

Defense:

30 in points allowed (121.4)

16 in opponent points in paint (49.0)

18 in opponent fastbreak points (14.8)

28 in defensive efficiency

25 in opponent shooting % (47.6%)

18 in opponent three point % (35.9%)

24 in opponent two point % (55.4%)

25 in blocks (4.0)

13 in steals (7.5)

26 in opponent assists (27.2)

7 in opponent turnovers!!!!!!!! (16.0)

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2021-2022 3-man rotations, 2 highest minute totals and +/- per 100 possessions

1. Curry-Wiggs-Loon 1047 min +10.1 per 100

2. Poole-Wiggs-Loon 953 min +8.5 per 100

And the point? The Poole-Wiggs-Loon trio is a tried and true combo. On average, if this is the foundation, the tripod that builds stability in a 5-man rotation, these guys should be able to hold the line in non-Curry minutes. That group still needs a secondary ball handler (formerly DDV), as should be obvious by the amount of minutes Ty Jerome has been getting lately. Add a power forward or stretch 3 and your good to go.

Full disclosure, Poole-Wiggs-Loon is -2.1 per 100 in just over 60 minutes this year. But considering how bad the Dubs have been to start, this minus rating is not bad, coming in as the 11th best 3-man combo this year. So in the worst circumstances, with a bunch of young guys and new guys and returning injured guys who all haven't played together, if you build the second unit with this trio, you are at the bare minimum going to keeps the score even. And this is the primary goal of the second unit.

Also, I don't care who starts or who closes. What matters is 48 minutes and no more "Lord of the Flies" rotations. The 2nd unit has to have some foundation and Poole-Wiggs-Loon are the teenagers in the house, capable of making Mac & Cheese and hot dogs for the kids while the adults are out on date night. But the adults can't shirk all responsibility for taking care of the young ones on Poole (See most 2nd Unit rotations to date). Let Steph, Klay and Dray carry some of the load. That means putting Wiseman in a stroller and taking him out with you on the floor. When he poops his diapers, change them in real time. All parents know, it's a lot of work taking care of babies. Sometimes they stink it up. But then they do something amazing, like say Da-Da, or sky for an offensive rebound and rim shaking put back. Wiseman may need the most care and attention, but he can also provide the greatest joy. In my mind, Dray needs to stuff some baby wipes in that fanny pack of his to help Wise clean up his defense and Steph needs to grab some stuffies for Wiseman, and put them in a place where he can Stuff the Rim.

To the core: Date night is over. Give the teenagers a break. Shoulder YOUR responsibility and take your turn with the big man. And if you do, the 2nd unit won't destroy the house while you are out.

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On Ty/Lamb potential signing down the line, dont we have 15 spot open? So we will sign one of them (most likely Ty) a day before Playoffs start ala GP2.

Whether we like it not, Andre isn't getting waived.

OT: Probably this is a minority opinion but I think Andre can be a steadying hand with the puppy lineup (play 10 mins or so). As for his body breaking down, if I remember correctly, Andre's injury progressively moved up his body. Started with knee issues and he had neck pain towards the end - so something fundamental..Rick and Co are probably working to fix that like they did with Dray.

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Opinion: Jerome (and maybe DDV) should be the one to initiate the offense instead of Poole.

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Question for those who (like me) find themselves tempted to start consciously uncoupling from Wiseman (and with apologies to all those who understandably find this premature or unseemly—by all means, ignore!):

What sort of trades do you imagine might be out there? Any recent analogues that might give a clue? Are we in Marvin Bagley territory yet? What would you want, and what seems realistic?

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Nov 5, 2022Liked by Duby Dub Dubs

I am confused. Our former big guys like Bogut and Javale seemed tasked with playing almost exclusively around the basket. Defending, stopping slashing players, rebounding , etc. I don’t remember that there were multiple plays designed for them, pick and roll, etc. it seems like GSW is trying to make JW into a different kind of big. For what reason is he not being trained to function like Bogut and others who were needed under the basket and a great help to the team?

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I actually liked this experiment I just wish it happened last back to back and I would have really liked to have seen Curry out there with the kids.

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Just a reminder that DDV is Ty Jerome with more experience and much better defense.

They’re really missing him and I think what a big part of their plans he was is being overlooked.

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Kerr not even trusting Wiseman down the stretch in a game where there were basically no other options seems the most damning. And begs the question: why are we even bothering to tank the season to develop him when Looney is already an excellent, young option at 5?

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Nov 5, 2022·edited Nov 5, 2022

Kyrie is so poor at understanding the bigger issues that I am a bit reluctant to even bother, but let's just note his scripted apology: "To All Jewish families and Communities that are hurt and affected from my post, I am deeply sorry to have caused you pain and I apologize."

This is one of those things people say (or their PR guy scripts) that seems good at first; but the issue here is not about Jewish families only. It's about bigotry and ignorance. By singling out Jewish families, the implication is that if Jewish families and communities had not been hurt, his post would have been fine. Non-Jewish people would have been just fine, they don't care. That's so myopic and foolish, and ultimately recreates the same problem. It singles out a group and paints them all in the same way. Effectively he's saying "Jewish people are a certain way about bigotry and other people aren't as, you know ... touchy."

The language of the statement is all about the others -- how Jewish people are. There's nothing about how he is. The proverbial I-statement vs. You-statement problem. As in, if he had said, "I really shouldn't have posted that, I don't actually know what it's about," that would be cool.

So hi, Kyrie. I'm Jewish. I wasn't hurt, I thought you were being a douche. I would think the same if your comments had offended against any other group. The "apology?" Thanks, I hated it.

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Last night was the perfect opportunity to let wiseman spot up and see if he can hit corner 3s and also see how the switch everything scheme works with him, I seriously don’t get why this play style is being forced onto wiseman, how long until it kills his confidence?

He obviously wants to play like a wing, I’m sick of him sitting in the post trying to call for the ball

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Play curry with looney

Play poole green and kuminga together, poole is better with green, green is better with a lob threat on the short rolls, just makes perfect sense.

If jmg doesn’t step up let lamb get his minutes with the starters

Curry jerome Wiggins jmg/lamb looney

Poole moody klay kuminga green let kuminga guard ball and klay guard 4s

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After watching this game I feel it was mistake to have not sat the same guys back in DET. This speaks to how disastrous a road trip this was. I’m curious to see if Steph’s minutes are more staggered for a block of games going forward. I would also love to see JK get guaranteed minutes like Wiseman has and was afforded. Please develop JK

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Nov 5, 2022·edited Nov 5, 2022

Obviously, this is a freezing cold take, but I was very encouraged by last night's game.

I had hoped to see some glimpses of what might work after 10 games. Well, it took until game 10 to see anything!, but there were some great takeaways.

1. Kuminga needs to play.

2. Jerome and Lamb are a really nice one-two combo, particularly since both can shoot.

3. I'm coming around to the idea of Wiseman going to the G-league for a while. Maybe they can at least get his defensive positioning and technique sorted out.

4. JMG needs his minutes reduced until he can show some improvement. He's not scoring enough to make up for his defensive lapses.

I'm not really sure what to do about center if Wiseman does go to the G-league. Might have to play Lamb and Kuminga in a small-ball lineup until Wiseman is more solid.

5. We need to start thinking about how to get both Lamb and Jerome on the main roster. They are Warriors players.

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