It seems to me that Wiseman has clear things that he could work on in the G League. I would love for them to switch him and Kuminga for a few games, and assuming it doesn’t get actively worse, send him to SC.
Yo, can DNHQ hire an on-staff psychotherapist to help all the members here who are going to need serious help while watching the Dubs work on Wiseman all season? There’s no chance he gets traded. He’s the project of the season and our patience is far less than the Dubs’ FO. The result is going to be a lot of stress induced mental injuries. Fantasy trade machinations. Desperate wishful thinking. TVs, laptops, tablets and a mass assortment of digital devices thrown out windows. Wiseman will just keep working on his offensive and defensive moves, and the anxiety here will reach a roaring crescendo of riotous anti-Wiseman mania.
If we don’t get some serious professional help we’ll be resorting to dangerous self-medicating. There’s only so far weed, booze and ice cream can go!
Hear me out. Toronto has a bit of a glut of large small forwards, and no true center. They're a team that would like to see if they can contend for a title, but they have no one to bang up against Giannis, Embiid, Jarrett Allen, etc. Their depth chart lists at center Pascal Siakam, then Precious Achiuwa, both good, but both 6'8". Yet Toronto knows that they can't get everything they want, like a perfect big man to completely dominate, so they are open to ideas.
Toronto has rather a glut of big small forward types and can't seem to find minutes for all of them. So: Wiseman for Otto Porter. It works in the trade machine straight up. OPJ has clearly not found a basketball home in Toronto, played two games so far. We know what he can provide the Dubs. I believe the Dubs would actually save money, and would be freed from endlessly worrying about What's The Plan With Wiseman? Toronto might go for it recognizing the risks, they're not blind to Wiseman's weaknesses, but would like a lob threat for their passers and a roll to the rim pnr guy, plus as mentioned, six fouls to throw at Evan Mobley, etc.
I've spoken to Bob several times this week. He's reluctant to take the step because he has loyalty to his players, which is admirable, but ultimately a GM needs to be cold-blooded. So we've been running it past the key players like Kerr, Steph Dray and Klay. We got an OK from them. But of course we realize we need this site's approval. So: What do you think?
Is it possible that Dray$ has been unable to assert his defensive leadership because of “The Punch” because I don’t see the possibility of Looney or Wiggins getting in anyone’s face.
Hi, Eric. Sorry to break in, but, my credit card company account got billed again from ''Let's Go Warriors''. I think my subscription with you guys would be a bill in Feb for ''Dub Nation HQ''. I paid one time in both accounts and don't aim to be suckered again...yours is the only site I want to renew. Is there anything you can do about it...I don't think you still bill under their name...loll...I do not even have their site address anymore....Do I have it right...You may delete this post if you want...
Run it back hard. Do whatever it takes rotation wise to go on a nice fat winning streak. If the pieces aren’t falling into place start packaging them for some hungry, savvy vets. For god’s sake, Curry is now on the back end of 30 and giving this team 30+ per night.
6-4 is honestly the minimum standard for the next ten games. The notion that this season is salvageable by our pre-season standards and goals if we are two games or more below .500 after functionally a quarter of it is ... to be blunt, not very smart. Even at .500, it's a big stretch and would require some major changes in what the team actually does and achieves out there. Because I want to hope, I say our lads go 8-2 and show a new side of themselves on defense.
So did any of you win the Powerball jackpot this evening? Oh and also is Trevion a good rebounder or is this the result of gleague being so guard oriented?
Ok I’ll put this out there right now as a cold lock: the Warriors will not win the championship every year for the rest of time. They also won’t win it every year for the rest of Steph Curry’s (hopefully very long, even unusually long) career.
What the Warriors (not just the 15 guys but the whole organization) owe us then, since they will absolutely fail to win rings some years: A good quality product. Good enough to give us hope. Entertaining high quality winning play on most nights. As little dramatic BS as possible, while we understand that players coaches and staff are people, people who make mistakes. A long term commitment to management not behaving like assholes, and a long term commitment to a team culture that doesn’t support assholery. Fun. Willingness to invest $$ in the players, coaches, trainers, doctors, tech, equipment, players, players, players and everything else that can increase the likelihood of putting a fun, winning product on the court. A culture that encourages and reinforces the kind of behavior from the stars that inspires respect. More than lip service to giving back the community. And I wouldn’t mind some better tv announcers.
Do these things, and I’ll keep watching. I’ll buy the t- shirts and hats. And while I will suffer through the 6 game losing streak, I will come back for more and not just immediately demand that you blow it all up. Yes I’m a fan and I love the rings. But I’m here for 82 games of good high quality entertainment backed up by all those other things I expect. Plus a bunch more ass-clenching post season moments, and for sure the more the better.
I assume Sleepy half jests but i was thinking of a scenario this upcoming offseason in which the Warriors would be willing to trade for another Veteran star in exchange for a package centered around Wiggins, Poole, and Wiseman and i dont see the possibility.
I believe Wiseman and Kuminga have little
to no trade value right now. However the only way at this point to increase their trade value is is to play well and demonstrate the potential for continued growth. But if they do that then whats the point of trading good young talent on reasonable contracts lol
By the way, new open thread here: https://dubnationhq.com/p/dub-nation-hq-comments-of-week-plus-2e9?sd=pf
Not sure if this has been posted, but interesting article from Charlie Cummings on JW
https://www.outletpass.net/the-james-wiseman-experiment-is-over/
Anyone see a story on Yardbarker about Kerr’s concern about Klay? It was there and then disappeared.
It seems to me that Wiseman has clear things that he could work on in the G League. I would love for them to switch him and Kuminga for a few games, and assuming it doesn’t get actively worse, send him to SC.
Yo, can DNHQ hire an on-staff psychotherapist to help all the members here who are going to need serious help while watching the Dubs work on Wiseman all season? There’s no chance he gets traded. He’s the project of the season and our patience is far less than the Dubs’ FO. The result is going to be a lot of stress induced mental injuries. Fantasy trade machinations. Desperate wishful thinking. TVs, laptops, tablets and a mass assortment of digital devices thrown out windows. Wiseman will just keep working on his offensive and defensive moves, and the anxiety here will reach a roaring crescendo of riotous anti-Wiseman mania.
If we don’t get some serious professional help we’ll be resorting to dangerous self-medicating. There’s only so far weed, booze and ice cream can go!
Hear me out. Toronto has a bit of a glut of large small forwards, and no true center. They're a team that would like to see if they can contend for a title, but they have no one to bang up against Giannis, Embiid, Jarrett Allen, etc. Their depth chart lists at center Pascal Siakam, then Precious Achiuwa, both good, but both 6'8". Yet Toronto knows that they can't get everything they want, like a perfect big man to completely dominate, so they are open to ideas.
Toronto has rather a glut of big small forward types and can't seem to find minutes for all of them. So: Wiseman for Otto Porter. It works in the trade machine straight up. OPJ has clearly not found a basketball home in Toronto, played two games so far. We know what he can provide the Dubs. I believe the Dubs would actually save money, and would be freed from endlessly worrying about What's The Plan With Wiseman? Toronto might go for it recognizing the risks, they're not blind to Wiseman's weaknesses, but would like a lob threat for their passers and a roll to the rim pnr guy, plus as mentioned, six fouls to throw at Evan Mobley, etc.
I've spoken to Bob several times this week. He's reluctant to take the step because he has loyalty to his players, which is admirable, but ultimately a GM needs to be cold-blooded. So we've been running it past the key players like Kerr, Steph Dray and Klay. We got an OK from them. But of course we realize we need this site's approval. So: What do you think?
PS How about Daniel Theis instead?
Is it possible that Dray$ has been unable to assert his defensive leadership because of “The Punch” because I don’t see the possibility of Looney or Wiggins getting in anyone’s face.
10-0....
Hi, Eric. Sorry to break in, but, my credit card company account got billed again from ''Let's Go Warriors''. I think my subscription with you guys would be a bill in Feb for ''Dub Nation HQ''. I paid one time in both accounts and don't aim to be suckered again...yours is the only site I want to renew. Is there anything you can do about it...I don't think you still bill under their name...loll...I do not even have their site address anymore....Do I have it right...You may delete this post if you want...
Run it back hard. Do whatever it takes rotation wise to go on a nice fat winning streak. If the pieces aren’t falling into place start packaging them for some hungry, savvy vets. For god’s sake, Curry is now on the back end of 30 and giving this team 30+ per night.
6-4 is honestly the minimum standard for the next ten games. The notion that this season is salvageable by our pre-season standards and goals if we are two games or more below .500 after functionally a quarter of it is ... to be blunt, not very smart. Even at .500, it's a big stretch and would require some major changes in what the team actually does and achieves out there. Because I want to hope, I say our lads go 8-2 and show a new side of themselves on defense.
We got another record to break, I guess, because I'm sure no team has started 3-7 and won it all. So, like, whatever... let's do that
So did any of you win the Powerball jackpot this evening? Oh and also is Trevion a good rebounder or is this the result of gleague being so guard oriented?
Ok I’ll put this out there right now as a cold lock: the Warriors will not win the championship every year for the rest of time. They also won’t win it every year for the rest of Steph Curry’s (hopefully very long, even unusually long) career.
What the Warriors (not just the 15 guys but the whole organization) owe us then, since they will absolutely fail to win rings some years: A good quality product. Good enough to give us hope. Entertaining high quality winning play on most nights. As little dramatic BS as possible, while we understand that players coaches and staff are people, people who make mistakes. A long term commitment to management not behaving like assholes, and a long term commitment to a team culture that doesn’t support assholery. Fun. Willingness to invest $$ in the players, coaches, trainers, doctors, tech, equipment, players, players, players and everything else that can increase the likelihood of putting a fun, winning product on the court. A culture that encourages and reinforces the kind of behavior from the stars that inspires respect. More than lip service to giving back the community. And I wouldn’t mind some better tv announcers.
Do these things, and I’ll keep watching. I’ll buy the t- shirts and hats. And while I will suffer through the 6 game losing streak, I will come back for more and not just immediately demand that you blow it all up. Yes I’m a fan and I love the rings. But I’m here for 82 games of good high quality entertainment backed up by all those other things I expect. Plus a bunch more ass-clenching post season moments, and for sure the more the better.
A hangover’s a terrible feeling.
Team fights’ll start the vibe reeling.
When our shots all stop falling,
And our ballers stop balling.
Fans all start up Bradley Bealing.
I assume Sleepy half jests but i was thinking of a scenario this upcoming offseason in which the Warriors would be willing to trade for another Veteran star in exchange for a package centered around Wiggins, Poole, and Wiseman and i dont see the possibility.
I believe Wiseman and Kuminga have little
to no trade value right now. However the only way at this point to increase their trade value is is to play well and demonstrate the potential for continued growth. But if they do that then whats the point of trading good young talent on reasonable contracts lol