Ben simmons is a monster simple as that, he had a shitty playoffs and didnt have the right team chemistry to keep his confidence high, hes being extremely underrated by recency bias
Trading Draymond for Ben would be idiotic. They are complementary players on D who can also switch and keep the ball moving to hit the shooters and cutters in position for high % shots, it’s the combination of the two that would unlock the full power of the Warriors.
Mid-season tournament: why aren’t they mentioning a lottery pick as the winning team’s incentive anymore? Seems way more likely to get fan interest than a trophy.
I think there's a good chance that John Wall gets bought out around midseason regardless of what the Rockets are saying now, and I think the Warriors should try to add him.
Even if the Warriors are interested in BS as a player, I don't see any reason to trade for a player whose value is almost certain to drop as time goes on as his negative situation intensifies and his relationship with his current team devolves even further. Even outside any consideration of Simmons' basketball fit here, the team would be foolish to jump on any trade at this point in time.
Ben Simmons and Jaden Springer for Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, and Moses Moody
Yes, James Wiseman could be included in this instead of one of the rookies, though the 76ers have so few minutes for him to develop that I’d guess he’d be headed to a third team in an effort to bring more ready to win-now talent to Philly. I love this deal for the Warriors, as described last week—not for the Sixers. If Simmons is a no-show, and the 76ers Eastern rivals are on fire, Morey will have to consider starless options like this one. Wiggins made progress with his defense last season and of course Morey could trade the rookies for win-now players if he prefers.
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And while we’re at it, same article:
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Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans for Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, and James Wiseman
Curry and Beal led the league in scoring. If Thompson returns healthy they’d have the best backcourt/small forward combo in the league to play with Green and his do-it-all talent. Beal may not love the fit, but given his options this would be his best spot to at least play for a team that should win over 50 games. I’m certain the Warriors would want a long-term commitment from him and I think they’d get it. For Washington, they get a two-way scorer/defender who could end up getting moved again, plus two outstanding prospects who both could be All-Stars by 2025 or so. They are so talented it’d be worth it to slip outside the top eight in the East—it’d only be for a season if it happened at all.
Good interview with Kris Weems. He’s high on Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman, but is seems to be most confident in Poole being ready for a very prominent role this season.
I had watched that BBreakdown video yesterday and it does a great job of showing how BS clogs up Embiid’s office space hanging around the water cooler doing 🤷🏼♂️
As you both point out, Simmons at the 5 might make the most sense, but he doesn’t seem to want to do that.
Well, well, well... Look at this guy, not giving the Warriors an A grade for their offseason!! This dude clearly doesn't know what he's talking about lmao who is this guy?
Can't see a scenario where Simmons goes to the Ws. It just doesn't add up. The Ws, despite having many attractive pieces for a potential trade, don't have the kind of win-now assets to give up that the Sixers crave. And because Morey seems to have a very high value on Simmons as trade bait, he's unlikely to be enticed by what the Ws would actually give up.
All of that is before the questions about fit (my personal take is that Simmons /could/ fit but that his mindset makes it unlikely that he /would/).
The missiing part of the analysis is that even if Simmons is a big upgrade on Looney, the Warriors would be replacing Wiggins with, at most, a TPMLE. Even accepting that Wiggins isn't good enough to command a max contract, he isn't MLE player either.Alec Burks, for example, just got a $30/3year deal.
Ben simmons is a monster simple as that, he had a shitty playoffs and didnt have the right team chemistry to keep his confidence high, hes being extremely underrated by recency bias
Trading Draymond for Ben would be idiotic. They are complementary players on D who can also switch and keep the ball moving to hit the shooters and cutters in position for high % shots, it’s the combination of the two that would unlock the full power of the Warriors.
Mid-season tournament: why aren’t they mentioning a lottery pick as the winning team’s incentive anymore? Seems way more likely to get fan interest than a trophy.
I think there's a good chance that John Wall gets bought out around midseason regardless of what the Rockets are saying now, and I think the Warriors should try to add him.
Even if the Warriors are interested in BS as a player, I don't see any reason to trade for a player whose value is almost certain to drop as time goes on as his negative situation intensifies and his relationship with his current team devolves even further. Even outside any consideration of Simmons' basketball fit here, the team would be foolish to jump on any trade at this point in time.
Truehoop today had a Ben Simmons trade piece:
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https://www.truehoop.com/p/trading-ben-simmons-isnt-easy
Ben Simmons and Jaden Springer for Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, and Moses Moody
Yes, James Wiseman could be included in this instead of one of the rookies, though the 76ers have so few minutes for him to develop that I’d guess he’d be headed to a third team in an effort to bring more ready to win-now talent to Philly. I love this deal for the Warriors, as described last week—not for the Sixers. If Simmons is a no-show, and the 76ers Eastern rivals are on fire, Morey will have to consider starless options like this one. Wiggins made progress with his defense last season and of course Morey could trade the rookies for win-now players if he prefers.
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And while we’re at it, same article:
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Bradley Beal and Davis Bertans for Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kuminga, and James Wiseman
Curry and Beal led the league in scoring. If Thompson returns healthy they’d have the best backcourt/small forward combo in the league to play with Green and his do-it-all talent. Beal may not love the fit, but given his options this would be his best spot to at least play for a team that should win over 50 games. I’m certain the Warriors would want a long-term commitment from him and I think they’d get it. For Washington, they get a two-way scorer/defender who could end up getting moved again, plus two outstanding prospects who both could be All-Stars by 2025 or so. They are so talented it’d be worth it to slip outside the top eight in the East—it’d only be for a season if it happened at all.
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Good interview with Kris Weems. He’s high on Moody, Kuminga and Wiseman, but is seems to be most confident in Poole being ready for a very prominent role this season.
https://youtu.be/yJRKbkqHwCg (Weems’ part starts about 10 minutes in)
Good stuff Eric!
I had watched that BBreakdown video yesterday and it does a great job of showing how BS clogs up Embiid’s office space hanging around the water cooler doing 🤷🏼♂️
As you both point out, Simmons at the 5 might make the most sense, but he doesn’t seem to want to do that.
Anyone hear of anything on the D. Collison front?
Well, well, well... Look at this guy, not giving the Warriors an A grade for their offseason!! This dude clearly doesn't know what he's talking about lmao who is this guy?
https://theathletic.com/2773623/2021/09/14/zach-harpers-warriors-offseason-report-overall-grade-roster-breakdown-goals-for-2021-22/
Morey lost the Westbrook-CP3 trade because he was forced to make it happen. Maybe that'll be the case here?
Thank you, sir! May I have another!
Can't see a scenario where Simmons goes to the Ws. It just doesn't add up. The Ws, despite having many attractive pieces for a potential trade, don't have the kind of win-now assets to give up that the Sixers crave. And because Morey seems to have a very high value on Simmons as trade bait, he's unlikely to be enticed by what the Ws would actually give up.
All of that is before the questions about fit (my personal take is that Simmons /could/ fit but that his mindset makes it unlikely that he /would/).
It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
The missiing part of the analysis is that even if Simmons is a big upgrade on Looney, the Warriors would be replacing Wiggins with, at most, a TPMLE. Even accepting that Wiggins isn't good enough to command a max contract, he isn't MLE player either.Alec Burks, for example, just got a $30/3year deal.
Come on, I just sat down with my bowl of cereal and now this?