If Mac keeps this up Myers will be forced to sign him somehow. Santos can be stashed for a season or two, I like what I’ve seen from him.
Our 1-10 players is solid. Our bench unit right now with the young guys could be a starting team for many mid tier to bottom level teams. Poole-Donte-Moody-Kuminga-JW
Positive trend for Kuminga, including his otherwise-desultory first SL game, that I've noticed is he's been pretty solid about boxing out/finding somebody to put a body on when a shot goes up.
Also, I absolutely fucking loved his dribble penetration and dish to Wiseman in the 4th quarter. Properly keeping a trailing defender on your hip/back and keeping the handle tight is one of my favorite plays in basketball when done right, and he did it perfectly at 6'8". Then a great dish (and great hands by Wiseman, it was a good pass but with some velocity from maybe 10 feet away, so not an easy catch). And to top it off, Wiseman didn't bring the ball down and gather unnecessarily, just went straight up for the quick dunk.
People keep saying Kuminga is 6'8" tall. Is he really that tall?
To me, he seems about the same height as Moody (just a stouter frame). I would guess more like 6'6". Wish he'd stand next to Wiggins ... I'm fairly sure Wiggins is taller than Kuminga.
Just finished the 1sty and 4th quarters. So great to see Big Jim running around looking healthy. The first couple of minutes were awesome, he was on fire. JK still has some room for growth, I admit to being a little disappointed - but the athleticism is no joke, so I hope works out.
But the real star of the show, Mac McClung. That dude was playing all out. Good for him - love the effort. He looks pretty good too, knocked down some shots, and quite a few nifty finishes.
I know people are talking about whether we should have already given Quinones a 2 way, etc., but we do have to remember, we only have 12/15 slots filled and 1/2 two ways (assuming Rollins does get a contract and Quinones keeps his two way). That leaves 4 slots for Q.Spoon, Gui, Mac, and whoever else. I think we have enough space for all these players if they show they belong in a Dubs jersey. Remember that rookies are something like 5M cheaper than vets when including tax, and our top 10 players are gonna soak up all the minutes, so I would not be surprised to see the Dubs sign some of these fringe players to rookie contracts.
As much as I’m liking these kids, I am going a different way and say that I think the FO will find at least one vet big man or wing to balance the youth movement. I’m a contrarian DNHQer but my preference would be a backup big man. Shocking!!
Yeah I agree with you on the rookie contracts — I totally think they’re planning to fill those last few spots with cheap contracts. I think the hard part of thinking that through as outsiders is that guys like Gui or Quinones simply don’t seem ready to contribute in NBA games … and who knows about PBJ or Rollins, who are currently injured. But I keep saying they’re really betting on like 2-3 of these young guys panning out to complement the championship core during the regular season to just make it to the postseason again. And I think it’s reasonable that the FO has that faith in their development team.
If Santos makes even incremental strides with his handle, shot, and defensive closeouts this offseason, I think he can contribute in NBA games. Playing time would definitely be limited and would fluctuate, but there will be regular season games where he gives them some juice. Given the tax savings, the fact that he has potential that no end-of-bench player on a vet minimum will have, and the better-outcome possibility of rapid growth during the season from G-League minutes/work with the developmental staff/spot NBA minutes, I think it makes a lot of sense to roster him.
JK doing his bulldozer/juggernaut routine while driving to the rack w the likes of Steph Klay Dray and Poole will look a whole hell of a lot different than driving w SL scrubs.
No worries from me at all when it comes to JK. He will make boneheaded decisions and continue to brick FTs...and at some point in the near future, no one will care.
Kuminga made 68% of his FTs last season and 72.5% post All-Star break. I’m not worried about some now due to rust…or perhaps he was inspired by Steph to miss a bunch of FT’s.
the PNR JK to Wiseman lob in the beginning was sick. and he found him towards the end of the game with a nice pass too. It's quite surprising sometimes how good JK's passing is compared to the rough spots in his overall game. I agree - he will be alright.
- McClung’s surname sounds dramatically like a Kuminga FT on the rim, but the kid is damn good. Is there room for the brick brother in the roster?
- Kuminga is playing horrible offense basketball, but I am relieved that he’s inherited the stoic and peaceful acceptance of defeat from the big bros. ROAR.
- If BigTicket hadn’t been so lordly and polite in the glass cleaning, especially on offense, his comeback would have been perfect. But I’m sure that a couple of Dray’s roars will do the trick. That jump shot of his is Dirk news for the NBA Ds
- finally a warrior’s game. well done, Cooper.
- Q has still 5 years of time and 95% skin for tattoos, to get to GP2 level. Very clutch-sensitive already.
There will be a small wrinkle in the space-time continuum, causing mammals and birds to swap places in the perceived hierarchy of the animal kingdom, such that humans will live in aeries and nests, and lay eggs when producing young. Also, Russell Westbrook will be traded for Kyrie Irving but no one will notice.
So... McClung has a honest shot to make the team right? He has the hustle, the mindset and surprising athleticism. I think he is a decent Kerr-ball fit. (Then again I just watched highlights so I may have a skewed viewpoint).
Wiseman played better than I was expecting. For sure needs to work on timing especially around the boards. But very nice shooting from all distances. Excellent defensive effort, especially in the last minute. Moving smoothly, looking strong, delivered a few nasty picks. I like his self-criticism in the post game interview - he knows what he needs to fix.
Kuminga played some great PG, showed handle, passing, plus steady defense on Primo, boards. A complete game and great learning experience for the guy. Yea the 3 point shooting was poor and free throws muchhhhh worse, but that can be worked on. I hope. Monster when driving to the rim though and he can get much better at that too.
McClung was pretty impressive. He is clearly going all out to make a mark. To the point of excessive ball hogging instead of team play, but for him clearly summer league is an audition. Hard not to love his hustle.
Quindary had some nice moments, but the rest of the guy were … Summer League guys. Quinones was for sure disappointing, not much presence. And the shooting overall was terrible.
And the Warriors won! Lol big come back powered by Kuminga.
Wiseman looked healthy and athletic, so that's a really positive sign. Awareness was still lagging considerably behind what is required for a rotation level NBA C though.
I still haven't seen anything that pops with Quinones at all. Well, apart from the shorts, but that's a different kind of pop.
Conversely, Weatherspoon always looks really solid whenever he plays. Good on-ball defender and smart cutter and passer. Wouldn't mind if he occupies a roster spot this year.
In the early 90’s “corporate Olympics” were a thing where companies competed against each other. My co-worker and roommate at the time was running the 50 yard dash with the whole company of about 150 people cheering him on and his dick popped out of his shorts about halfway through. He ran the rest of race with hands trying cover himself.
I trust the FO that just brought a fourth title to the Bay, but I’m still a little surprised they were so quick to offer him the two-way when he hasn’t shown a whole lot in this forum.
I mean we know he can shoot and plenty of dudes shoot poorly in summer league and are fine in the league (and vice versa). But I just haven’t seen enough, through my lens as a fan, to understand the rush to signing him… 🤔
We can always waive 2-ways right? I’m thinking he’s not in one of the two way spots at the start of the season. I have money on Rollins soaking a spot, and maybe Mac McClung after the last few games (acknowledging that’s two ball handlers, but hey we could use that when Steph is resting games).
Not that I've ever seen him play, but from what I've heard about him, he seems to be the high-IQ role player archetype which is pretty close to useless in a summer league environment.
wow ya, 2 rebounds for an athletic 7'1" guy is just pathetic... although I will say I did see him box out once or twice on a rebound that went to a teammate.
If Mac keeps this up Myers will be forced to sign him somehow. Santos can be stashed for a season or two, I like what I’ve seen from him.
Our 1-10 players is solid. Our bench unit right now with the young guys could be a starting team for many mid tier to bottom level teams. Poole-Donte-Moody-Kuminga-JW
And that unit is 23, 25, 20, 19, and 21.
McClung 22. Baldwin 19, Santos and Rollins just turned 20.
If these guys are “solid” or “interesting” now, imagine them in a year or two?
Everyone of that Bench unit can stretch the floor too. ;D
Positive trend for Kuminga, including his otherwise-desultory first SL game, that I've noticed is he's been pretty solid about boxing out/finding somebody to put a body on when a shot goes up.
Also, I absolutely fucking loved his dribble penetration and dish to Wiseman in the 4th quarter. Properly keeping a trailing defender on your hip/back and keeping the handle tight is one of my favorite plays in basketball when done right, and he did it perfectly at 6'8". Then a great dish (and great hands by Wiseman, it was a good pass but with some velocity from maybe 10 feet away, so not an easy catch). And to top it off, Wiseman didn't bring the ball down and gather unnecessarily, just went straight up for the quick dunk.
People keep saying Kuminga is 6'8" tall. Is he really that tall?
To me, he seems about the same height as Moody (just a stouter frame). I would guess more like 6'6". Wish he'd stand next to Wiggins ... I'm fairly sure Wiggins is taller than Kuminga.
JK measured 6'7" at the Nike Elite camp in 2019. Add in the shoe handicap and he gets pushed to 6'8".
Moody got officially measured at the combine and was 6'4.5" without shoes, but officially listed as 6'6".
If I were to guess, Wiggins is probably a legit 6'8", though he does have a bit of a longer neck going haha
Kuminga's neck doesn't seem as long so that's where Wiggins looks taller than him, body frame wise I'd say they're similar.
The Nike Elite camp would've been when he was 17, no?
Yes.
FWIW, G-League Ignite listed him at 6'6".
I'm comfortable with saying JK is 6'8" in shoes, which is typically the height listing used.
Yea I loved that moment. Perfect bookend to the first play of the game (the JW Wise PNR).
Oh boy - Nash has lost the locker room
Jeri Tsai
Reporter: "I was talking to your coach Steve Nash & he's encouraging you to look for your shot & your teammates"
Cam Thomas rolls eyes "It is what it is"
Seems even sophomore Cam Thomas is tired of Steve Nash "coaching"
#NetsWorld
https://twitter.com/jeritsainets/status/1546247206868590592?s=12
Yeesh, two people come across very poorly in that tweet, and Steve Nash isn't one of them.
Good to see Steph getting some shooting practice on the links!
https://twitter.com/warriors/status/1545818060589760513?s=21&t=ea4kHHt6njhCPz3avspAbw
Sheesh. That dude is incredible
This is Curry's world
So many party tricks
Just finished the 1sty and 4th quarters. So great to see Big Jim running around looking healthy. The first couple of minutes were awesome, he was on fire. JK still has some room for growth, I admit to being a little disappointed - but the athleticism is no joke, so I hope works out.
But the real star of the show, Mac McClung. That dude was playing all out. Good for him - love the effort. He looks pretty good too, knocked down some shots, and quite a few nifty finishes.
I know people are talking about whether we should have already given Quinones a 2 way, etc., but we do have to remember, we only have 12/15 slots filled and 1/2 two ways (assuming Rollins does get a contract and Quinones keeps his two way). That leaves 4 slots for Q.Spoon, Gui, Mac, and whoever else. I think we have enough space for all these players if they show they belong in a Dubs jersey. Remember that rookies are something like 5M cheaper than vets when including tax, and our top 10 players are gonna soak up all the minutes, so I would not be surprised to see the Dubs sign some of these fringe players to rookie contracts.
As much as I’m liking these kids, I am going a different way and say that I think the FO will find at least one vet big man or wing to balance the youth movement. I’m a contrarian DNHQer but my preference would be a backup big man. Shocking!!
Yeah I agree with you on the rookie contracts — I totally think they’re planning to fill those last few spots with cheap contracts. I think the hard part of thinking that through as outsiders is that guys like Gui or Quinones simply don’t seem ready to contribute in NBA games … and who knows about PBJ or Rollins, who are currently injured. But I keep saying they’re really betting on like 2-3 of these young guys panning out to complement the championship core during the regular season to just make it to the postseason again. And I think it’s reasonable that the FO has that faith in their development team.
If Santos makes even incremental strides with his handle, shot, and defensive closeouts this offseason, I think he can contribute in NBA games. Playing time would definitely be limited and would fluctuate, but there will be regular season games where he gives them some juice. Given the tax savings, the fact that he has potential that no end-of-bench player on a vet minimum will have, and the better-outcome possibility of rapid growth during the season from G-League minutes/work with the developmental staff/spot NBA minutes, I think it makes a lot of sense to roster him.
JK doing his bulldozer/juggernaut routine while driving to the rack w the likes of Steph Klay Dray and Poole will look a whole hell of a lot different than driving w SL scrubs.
No worries from me at all when it comes to JK. He will make boneheaded decisions and continue to brick FTs...and at some point in the near future, no one will care.
Kuminga made 68% of his FTs last season and 72.5% post All-Star break. I’m not worried about some now due to rust…or perhaps he was inspired by Steph to miss a bunch of FT’s.
the PNR JK to Wiseman lob in the beginning was sick. and he found him towards the end of the game with a nice pass too. It's quite surprising sometimes how good JK's passing is compared to the rough spots in his overall game. I agree - he will be alright.
And Wise caught all the passes too! May that continue
Yeah I remember some talk around his hands being an issue. Did anyone notice anything today?
His hands looked good to me. And most of them weren’t nice lobs
Okay, quick considerations on the game:
- McClung’s surname sounds dramatically like a Kuminga FT on the rim, but the kid is damn good. Is there room for the brick brother in the roster?
- Kuminga is playing horrible offense basketball, but I am relieved that he’s inherited the stoic and peaceful acceptance of defeat from the big bros. ROAR.
- If BigTicket hadn’t been so lordly and polite in the glass cleaning, especially on offense, his comeback would have been perfect. But I’m sure that a couple of Dray’s roars will do the trick. That jump shot of his is Dirk news for the NBA Ds
- finally a warrior’s game. well done, Cooper.
- Q has still 5 years of time and 95% skin for tattoos, to get to GP2 level. Very clutch-sensitive already.
- Santos should be stashed with confidence
- Jessup should be stashed and forgotten
- why did we put Quinones on a two-way, anyway?
McClung and McClang
Jessup is a draft and trash
I'm going backpacking for a week. Give me a preview of what I'm going to miss!
You’ll miss many turns on the trail and have to backtrack a lot.
There will be a small wrinkle in the space-time continuum, causing mammals and birds to swap places in the perceived hierarchy of the animal kingdom, such that humans will live in aeries and nests, and lay eggs when producing young. Also, Russell Westbrook will be traded for Kyrie Irving but no one will notice.
So... McClung has a honest shot to make the team right? He has the hustle, the mindset and surprising athleticism. I think he is a decent Kerr-ball fit. (Then again I just watched highlights so I may have a skewed viewpoint).
Why is McClung's athleticism surprising? He had the 7th highest vertical leap - 43 inches - in the history of the NBA Combine.
GP2 had surprising athleticism.
Cause he White?
I think it's safe to predict that McClung will be on an NBA roster somewhere this season.
McClung over Rollins?
Not what I said: "somewhere" in the NBA, not necessarily the Dubs.
Well. Based on that game I’m pretty happy.
Wiseman played better than I was expecting. For sure needs to work on timing especially around the boards. But very nice shooting from all distances. Excellent defensive effort, especially in the last minute. Moving smoothly, looking strong, delivered a few nasty picks. I like his self-criticism in the post game interview - he knows what he needs to fix.
Kuminga played some great PG, showed handle, passing, plus steady defense on Primo, boards. A complete game and great learning experience for the guy. Yea the 3 point shooting was poor and free throws muchhhhh worse, but that can be worked on. I hope. Monster when driving to the rim though and he can get much better at that too.
McClung was pretty impressive. He is clearly going all out to make a mark. To the point of excessive ball hogging instead of team play, but for him clearly summer league is an audition. Hard not to love his hustle.
Quindary had some nice moments, but the rest of the guy were … Summer League guys. Quinones was for sure disappointing, not much presence. And the shooting overall was terrible.
And the Warriors won! Lol big come back powered by Kuminga.
How can Warriors sign McClung?
He signed a 2-way contract with Lakers.
https://lakeshowlife.com/2022/07/07/warriors-steal-mac-mcclung-los-angeles-lakers/
That was before last season ended I believe, they filled their two-ways this season
https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/lakers-sign-scotty-pippen-jr-and-cole-swider-to-two-way-contracts-220701
Wonder why Lakers didn’t sign McC, or could they not?
Embarrassment of riches when it comes to scouting and developing young players
Thank you.
Any chance Big Mac replaces Quionnes on the 2way?
Lol I just wrote the same thing below, but with way more words. And hoping QW gets a full spot 🤞🏻
Wiseman looked healthy and athletic, so that's a really positive sign. Awareness was still lagging considerably behind what is required for a rotation level NBA C though.
I still haven't seen anything that pops with Quinones at all. Well, apart from the shorts, but that's a different kind of pop.
Conversely, Weatherspoon always looks really solid whenever he plays. Good on-ball defender and smart cutter and passer. Wouldn't mind if he occupies a roster spot this year.
In the early 90’s “corporate Olympics” were a thing where companies competed against each other. My co-worker and roommate at the time was running the 50 yard dash with the whole company of about 150 people cheering him on and his dick popped out of his shorts about halfway through. He ran the rest of race with hands trying cover himself.
Yeah … I’m … withholding judgment on Quinones …
I trust the FO that just brought a fourth title to the Bay, but I’m still a little surprised they were so quick to offer him the two-way when he hasn’t shown a whole lot in this forum.
I mean we know he can shoot and plenty of dudes shoot poorly in summer league and are fine in the league (and vice versa). But I just haven’t seen enough, through my lens as a fan, to understand the rush to signing him… 🤔
We can always waive 2-ways right? I’m thinking he’s not in one of the two way spots at the start of the season. I have money on Rollins soaking a spot, and maybe Mac McClung after the last few games (acknowledging that’s two ball handlers, but hey we could use that when Steph is resting games).
You can but doing so right away might not send the best message to future players you are trying to sign to a two-way.
I agree that Rollins makes it unlikely they use a spot on McClung, who knows though.
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think they already committed to giving Rollins a spot on the 15-man roster…?
But that still leaves one for McClung or anyone else…
LaRavia: 28 minutes, 2 pts on 1-5 fg. 0-4 3fg, 2 reb, 1 ast.
Not that I've ever seen him play, but from what I've heard about him, he seems to be the high-IQ role player archetype which is pretty close to useless in a summer league environment.
Franz Wagner was pretty bad in summer league iirc
That said, our high IQ role player dude scored 34 in summer league a couple days ago ...
Disagree with that categorization of Moody, he definitely has some upside as a shot-creator with his pull-up shooting and FTR.
I agree, but hopefully he does indeed suck
You just looking for the second coming of Franz Wagner
Wagner sucked in Summer League too, the resemblance is uncanny
....Until he signs with the Warriors.
I'm only judging Wiseman based on how he moved in this one, he basically hasn't played basketball in a year. Thought he moved well.
Going forward though, the things I want to see him improve on that weren't really there in this game:
1-98) Rebound the ball
99) Use your size to your advantage (try not to settle for jumpers)
100) Foul less (this could have been a product of conditioning though)
Liked some of the rim protection he was offering, still needs to react quicker for the NBA game but this is a good training ground for that.
yeah I think it may be the injury, but it did look like he just wasn't jumping or contesting on a lot of misses.
wow ya, 2 rebounds for an athletic 7'1" guy is just pathetic... although I will say I did see him box out once or twice on a rebound that went to a teammate.
Ok I’m watching now on delay, couldn’t watch until now. Should be fun!
Well I tuned in for the final minute after leaving midway through the 3rd. You’re welcome lol
But seriously though what happened? Did we finally start making threes?