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I keep seeing people talking about how we can't afford KO so we have to lose him and keep Wiggins. But, since the Warriors have Oubre's Bird rights, they could sign him to a max contract, offload Wiggins for expiring contracts, and end up in about the same place (minus some draft picks, probably). Or, if Lacob's pockets were truly bottomless, he could pay to keep five max/near-max players. But with Chase Center not earning on events for the near future, that seems pretty much impossible.

Wiseman, by the way, costs a pretty penny too as the #2 pick, even on a rookie salary. So when you think about how much money he'll command by the time he's, y'know, actually good, you have to wonder what contracts the rest of the Warriors will be on. Perhaps the end of the core three could be when one of them is offloaded to make Wiseman's eventual max contract palatable, tax-wise. That's of course if we even still have him at that point and assuming he will actually get good.

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If anyone is interested in listening to a bunch of Wiseman talk, I hopped on a podcast today with an old Hoops Habit writer (who ALS0 wrote a crazy deep article on Wisemam this week)

https://m.soundcloud.com/newwaveshoops/thank-the-warriors-episode-1-the-james-wiseman-conversation

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Mar 14, 2021Liked by punk basketball

So far, there doesn't seem to be any movement towards moving anyone by the trade deadline. That leaves us with the off season to see what the Warriors will do. I firmly believe that Oubre should be signed and Wiggins moved, if possible. Oubre gives the Warriors a dimension that no one else on the team can deliver. Plus, with the rise of Wiseman, scoring chances have to go his way and less for Wiggins. The bigger the Wiseman option, the less for Wiggins. Oubre is a player who can create his opportunities anywhere on the floor and is a solid rebounder, able to move constantly and slashing like no other teammate. The only possibility of not signing Oubre is if his asking price rises dramatically and they can't move Wiggins.

I'm a little surprised that Alex Toupane wasn't offered more by the Warriors. He seems to have a game that could have worked off our bench. His size and tool box scream sign me.

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I hope Min gets their pic this year. Then next year it’ll be unprotected and we Cheat4Chet

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Did the Warriors use the Iguodala Trade exception or the disabled player exception to get Oubre?

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Keep Oubre, trade Wiggins

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Uncle Alchemy discusses three possible trades:

1. Wiggins for Derozan (Derozan is expiring, so they could keep Oubre)

2. Oubre + Wanamaker for Bagley + Bjelica

3. Looney + Minny pick for SGA

https://youtu.be/ZMz_3F5CKWc

I like all 3 deals, especially #1

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Re Oubre...the key is that GS is not just a basketball operation, it is an event center operation with a basketball team. They are getting hammered by Covid and empty seats not just for Warriors games but for the entire venue. An extra few dozen millions for the basketball operation are nothing compared to the benefit of getting deep into the playoffs next year and the Chase Center getting filled up with events other than the Warriors. Oubre has to be seen as part of a much larger long ranger picture.

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

There are a lot of moving parts to this piece so it’s hard to tell what will actually happen. But I’m still adamant that there’s an internal competition between Wiggs and Oubre for the starting SF position next season. It seems like Meyers would want to keep both, if only for the sake of continuity, but you know he’s mapping all the options on the logic tree because there are several benefits to keeping Oubre over Wiggins (if Oubre proves to be the better fit):

If Wiggs doesn’t keep his 3p average above 35% at season’s end, he’d be an offensive liability next season; Oubre will be cheaper; and Meyers could get some decent assets by trading Wiggs. That’s a lot to weigh. If Wiggs is open to taking a pay cut or restructuring is contract, it would go a long way to keeping him in the Bay, tho.

It will be fun to see how they perform in the playoffs; that’s where one of them can separate from the other.

Whatever happens, next season’s roster will look different from this one. Meyers has to make room for Klay, the incoming draft picks, FAs, Jessup, and whatever moves he makes this season.

I’m both saddened to see who won’t be back and excited to see what the new team looks like.

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Nice job Duby! Personally, I’d love for the team to keep Oubre, but wouldn’t blame them at all if they price tag is too big, especially when Wiggins and Oubre overlap so much. If Oubre more of a passing playmaker like Igoudala, it’d be an easier decision.

In an ideal world, they’d trade Wiggins for an aging point guard on an expiring deal who’s also considered overpaid and could run the team in Curry’s absence.

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Perhaps they could work out an under the table agreement with Oubre. They pay him as he agrees to come off the bench for a season (with spot starts when Klay rests on back to backs) and chase a title. Then after next season, the unspoken part kicks in, and they either trade Wiggins (who would then be an expiring contract and a lot easier to move) and give Oubre the starting spot, or trade Oubre to a team where he has a realistic path to a starting spot.

Although I guess they could also just bench Wiggins, but that move can only be made if they don't have any plans of trading him.

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The luxury tax is BS and the NBA should eliminate it in the next CBA. Just set an actual hard cap and hard floor and be done with it instead of creating all sorts of Rube Goldberg rules in an attempt to punish teams for trying to be too good. All that said, the smart move is for the Warriors to trade Oubre this year. He is a good player and it would be nice to ieep him around, but he isn't a $85m/year good player though I suppose the right way to thin about it is to spread the $70m tax hit over the other 14 roster spots. Paying everybody an extra $5m/year doesn't sound as bad.

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Based on that pic, rumors of Oubre's 7'-3" wingspan appear greatly exaggerated.

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Also, really hope they keep him. Since he really embraced cutting off-ball (and started getting rewarded with a ton of dunks) I've been really looking forward to the future lineup of he, Wiggins and the big 3 playing with pace.

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Mar 13, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Wow. Fast. That's pretty funny that you had that all T'd up.

(KOjr was still most of a decade away from being born when that came out)

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