Beautifully, exuberantly written, Patrick. Well done.
And to Eric, Duby, Daniel, and all of you witty, knowledgeable, passionate, Warrior-dedicated commenters: Thank you, and happy 2024. Here's hoping this new chapter contains untold treasures!
Jonathan Kuminga is questionable tomorrow night against the Raptors. Toe strain. Draymond Green is now listed as out for “return to play reconditioning” instead of a league suspension.
He could. As reported initially, the conditions of his suspension allowed him to work out with the team, too — but he didn't do it, for whatever reason. We don't know whether he trained elsewhere or not. But NBA playing shape is another level.
With their coming roster crunch, I wonder what it would take to shake free Jaylin Williams (Ark) as a semi-stretch 5 from OKC in the offseason? He's not starting anymore for them with Chet now owning that spot, and he's due a contract extension, I think.
Poole managed to fool the Warriors into a 100$ contract so I guess good for him. Because that will NOT be the value of his next contract if things hold this way, I will go out on a limb and declare
I keep hoping JP will bounce back. He seems to have lost his way. But he's young and talented. There's still time for him to right the ship if he decides he wants to make his teammates better and play winning basketball on both ends.
For now, he's proving all of his critics right. What a lose-lose conclusion for this guy. At least he got a bag.
He is in the humbling phase of his career… we’ll see how he comes out of it. Will it crush him and banish him from the league, will he accept some limitation and refocus on a smaller role, or will he emerge having found basketball nirvana and rise like the Phoenix?
The Ws gave up PBJ and RR in all of that, and got an asset they thought would be a big help (either on the court or as an expiring contract) moving forward...so the workings of the deal (s) somehow made sense for both teams. NBA trades are complicated with salary ramifications, but each team does have a choice to make a deal (and therefore take on a contract) or not.
Indeed. Part of the calculation on the Dubs end was that CP3's contract is not guaranteed for next season, so they could shed salary to get under the second tax apron. It's not just about the players.
He earned that contract… then he fell off a cliff for some reason… maybe he got lucky with a few well timed hot shooting streaks that told a story of him being better than he is…
He was really good in the playoffs the year we won the championship - won us a few games when Steph was out and also had some good games against the Celtics. Really sad how he has fallen off a cliff. Maybe in his case it is a coach/game planning issue
Sure, we saw him play well. On offense. No one ever said he could play a lick of defense, nor did anyone appreciate his shot selection. It's interesting to see a guy go from hero to zero, though.
Yeah he played some defense two or three times a season. Not enough so you'd notice. It's hard to think of a worse defensive player in recent Dubs history.
In case he would be waived by the Wizards (and he's doing his worst to get that, it seems), would it be possible to get back Poole for a minimum contract? After all, his sub and his nemesis are out. And I'm sure he'd come back on foot.
Can you make a statement that in a team more caring and attentive with rookies development than us, Wiseman wouldn't have reached his potential anyway?
Boo… you’re being un-inclusive here too… not every post/thread needs to be catered to the English speaker, or the trade machine folks, or the non-trade machine folks…
Poole was flawed from the very first season he played with us. Remember how he couldn't shoot? Couldn't make a 3 point shot. I don't recall ever seeing a worse shooter in their rookie year.
Poole piace a tutti, perchè non è quello che ha dovuto sopportare violenza e umiliazione da parte nostra, e ora lo scazzo degli Wizards. Guardali giocare una volta e poi dimmi se non è come essere buttato in discarica . Poole è quello che con i coglioni è arrivato a livelli di All Star e ci ha fatto vincere un titolo.
Non condivido le valutazioni tecniche, su quelle etiche non ho titoli né competenze per esprimermi. Quest'estate ho visto il Team USA con Jalen Brunson e Haliburton point guard e mi facevano tenerezza. Ecco tra loro e Poole c'è un abisso secondo me. Questa è la valutazione tecnica che ho di Poole
Come no, hai diritto anche tu a giudicare il comportamento etico di una società che a parole è per la tolleranza e la non violenza, e poi quando le conviene copre e giustifica tutte le porcherie del 23
Ho il diritto, ma non mi reputo sufficientemente informato né competente. Se parliamo di basket, grazie Poole ma a me piacciono altri giocatori. Ad esempio: Fox è un all star (Sacramento Kings). Poole non è neanche paragonabile a Fox, a mio modesto avviso
I agree with you, Poole's not at the same level of those two even when motivated, but was exceptionally fitting to the joyful and fast paced dubs style (that we are now recovering with the kids)
His nemesis is coming back soon (fortunately or unfortunately, depending on one’s point of view).
He’s also on the books for another 3/$97M after this season, so there’s realistically zero chance the Wiz buy him out to let him play for the minimum on another team. They’ll have to find a taker for that contract, and likely take on a similarly bad contract in return.
Now we see what a smart move it was by Mike D to get off that contract, sad as it was to see JP go after he had helped us win the ‘chip in ‘22. Would anyone wanna see even 10 of Podz’ and JK’s minutes, or 25% of their usage, in the capable hands of Jordan Poole?
Draymond's return should provide ample cover for Kerr. I've never seen him criticized in media and by fans as much as recently. Storylines like who should we trade, who fills in for CP, Wiggins vs. Kuminga, Moody, etc. are nowhere near as exciting for the press as Draymond. Enjoy the last week off, we're about to see nonstop Draymond coverage. What would be absolutely lovely but hard to imagine would be if neither he nor the team said one word about it, and he just played basketball as it is meant to be played. I'll cross one finger if you cross the other.
Sure, but what have they done lately? It's been almost 2 years since the Warriors last championship. Give me those teams of the mid to late 80s that never gave the fans false hopes.
FYI E1P: https://dubnationhq.com/p/explain-live-steph-curry-clutch-threes
Thank you for an incredible trip down memory lane.
PATRICK! THE ULTIMATE FRISBEE IN GOLDEN GATE PARK WAS LIT!
TRUTH
Beautifully, exuberantly written, Patrick. Well done.
And to Eric, Duby, Daniel, and all of you witty, knowledgeable, passionate, Warrior-dedicated commenters: Thank you, and happy 2024. Here's hoping this new chapter contains untold treasures!
Jonathan Kuminga is questionable tomorrow night against the Raptors. Toe strain. Draymond Green is now listed as out for “return to play reconditioning” instead of a league suspension.
https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1743795162550305161
Too bad he couldn’t train while suspended
He could. As reported initially, the conditions of his suspension allowed him to work out with the team, too — but he didn't do it, for whatever reason. We don't know whether he trained elsewhere or not. But NBA playing shape is another level.
I guess playing 36 minutes on a sore toe wasn’t helpful…
May explain why he was launching 3pters the 1st half, with Steph and Klay on the floor....
Charges drawn per 36. (Check out #3 and 9):
1. Jaylin WilliamsOKC 0.96
2. Moritz WagnerORL 0.87
3. Brandin PodziemskiGSW 0.84
4. Tim Hardaway Jr.DAL 0.76
5. Isaiah JoeOKC 0.65
6. Cody ZellerNOP 0.61
7. Jalen BrunsonNYK 0.57
8. T.J. McConnellIND 0.53
9. Moses MoodyGSW 0.51
10. Marvin Bagley IIIDET 0.39
With their coming roster crunch, I wonder what it would take to shake free Jaylin Williams (Ark) as a semi-stretch 5 from OKC in the offseason? He's not starting anymore for them with Chet now owning that spot, and he's due a contract extension, I think.
AKA "Shorter Guys Have Fewer Options"
The list has 3 7-footers
They’re the shorter 7 footers, you don’t see Wemby on there
Pocket 7-footers?
Makes sense, more portable
You could construct a pretty good five-man unit from that group!
Best cumulative plus-minus in the NBA this season: Jokic +395
Worst: Poole -342
Poole managed to fool the Warriors into a 100$ contract so I guess good for him. Because that will NOT be the value of his next contract if things hold this way, I will go out on a limb and declare
I keep hoping JP will bounce back. He seems to have lost his way. But he's young and talented. There's still time for him to right the ship if he decides he wants to make his teammates better and play winning basketball on both ends.
For now, he's proving all of his critics right. What a lose-lose conclusion for this guy. At least he got a bag.
He is in the humbling phase of his career… we’ll see how he comes out of it. Will it crush him and banish him from the league, will he accept some limitation and refocus on a smaller role, or will he emerge having found basketball nirvana and rise like the Phoenix?
The Warriors signed him for the 100$ contract and a second team traded for him with it.
This seems to be the nature of the NBA, big contracts earned on maybe limited history but with potential... sometimes it looks foolish...
They unloaded CP and got picks the contract wasn’t a good one as evidenced by which team gave up assets in the trade
The Ws gave up PBJ and RR in all of that, and got an asset they thought would be a big help (either on the court or as an expiring contract) moving forward...so the workings of the deal (s) somehow made sense for both teams. NBA trades are complicated with salary ramifications, but each team does have a choice to make a deal (and therefore take on a contract) or not.
Indeed. Part of the calculation on the Dubs end was that CP3's contract is not guaranteed for next season, so they could shed salary to get under the second tax apron. It's not just about the players.
He earned that contract… then he fell off a cliff for some reason… maybe he got lucky with a few well timed hot shooting streaks that told a story of him being better than he is…
He was really good in the playoffs the year we won the championship - won us a few games when Steph was out and also had some good games against the Celtics. Really sad how he has fallen off a cliff. Maybe in his case it is a coach/game planning issue
Sure, we saw him play well. On offense. No one ever said he could play a lick of defense, nor did anyone appreciate his shot selection. It's interesting to see a guy go from hero to zero, though.
He played some, sometimes…
Yeah he played some defense two or three times a season. Not enough so you'd notice. It's hard to think of a worse defensive player in recent Dubs history.
In case he would be waived by the Wizards (and he's doing his worst to get that, it seems), would it be possible to get back Poole for a minimum contract? After all, his sub and his nemesis are out. And I'm sure he'd come back on foot.
Why, is Smailagic not available?
Comment of the day! 🤣🤣🤣
We could probably get Wanamaker to come back too or Pat McCaw
Paschall also, Monta too might as well.
Monta’s available
E aggiungo che anche Wiseman mi fa parecchio cagare
Aspetta a sputare su Wiseman. Alla sua età, Embiid era l'oggetto misterioso sempre infortunato
Se paragoniamo le mani di Wiseman a quelle di Embiid allora 5 minuti di fiato a Steph posso darglieli anche io a 49 anni
Sì, ma quanta pazienza hanno avuto con Embiid? Mi rispondo da solo: tutta quella che non hanno avuto con Wiseman.
Wiseman is never going to be like Embiid. Why fool yourself into making this comparison?
Can you make a statement that in a team more caring and attentive with rookies development than us, Wiseman wouldn't have reached his potential anyway?
Boo… you’re being un-inclusive here too… not every post/thread needs to be catered to the English speaker, or the trade machine folks, or the non-trade machine folks…
Hahahahahhahah
Well said
Ma ti piace così tanto Poole? A me mica tanto, e vedo dozzine e dozzine di esterni meglio di lui in NBA
Poole was flawed from the very first season he played with us. Remember how he couldn't shoot? Couldn't make a 3 point shot. I don't recall ever seeing a worse shooter in their rookie year.
Poole piace a tutti, perchè non è quello che ha dovuto sopportare violenza e umiliazione da parte nostra, e ora lo scazzo degli Wizards. Guardali giocare una volta e poi dimmi se non è come essere buttato in discarica . Poole è quello che con i coglioni è arrivato a livelli di All Star e ci ha fatto vincere un titolo.
Non condivido le valutazioni tecniche, su quelle etiche non ho titoli né competenze per esprimermi. Quest'estate ho visto il Team USA con Jalen Brunson e Haliburton point guard e mi facevano tenerezza. Ecco tra loro e Poole c'è un abisso secondo me. Questa è la valutazione tecnica che ho di Poole
Come no, hai diritto anche tu a giudicare il comportamento etico di una società che a parole è per la tolleranza e la non violenza, e poi quando le conviene copre e giustifica tutte le porcherie del 23
Ho il diritto, ma non mi reputo sufficientemente informato né competente. Se parliamo di basket, grazie Poole ma a me piacciono altri giocatori. Ad esempio: Fox è un all star (Sacramento Kings). Poole non è neanche paragonabile a Fox, a mio modesto avviso
Jrue Holiday è anni luce più forte di Poole, e non credo vada neanche all' All Star Game....
Quello che è successo è sotto gli occhi di tutti, e infatti la NBA ha preso i suoi sacrosanti provvedimenti
I need to come to Italy and learn Italian.
Or just come to Italy.
Even sports smack talk sounds elegant.
They were using a lot of swear words and it was pretty hilarious
You need to go to Italy to eat!!
Please do.
I have just said that Brunson and Haliburton are on a different planet than Poole (more or less it's the meaning)
Maybe in a different galaxy
I agree with you, Poole's not at the same level of those two even when motivated, but was exceptionally fitting to the joyful and fast paced dubs style (that we are now recovering with the kids)
His nemesis is coming back soon (fortunately or unfortunately, depending on one’s point of view).
He’s also on the books for another 3/$97M after this season, so there’s realistically zero chance the Wiz buy him out to let him play for the minimum on another team. They’ll have to find a taker for that contract, and likely take on a similarly bad contract in return.
Now we see what a smart move it was by Mike D to get off that contract, sad as it was to see JP go after he had helped us win the ‘chip in ‘22. Would anyone wanna see even 10 of Podz’ and JK’s minutes, or 25% of their usage, in the capable hands of Jordan Poole?
Poole-Podz bench backcourt? Every day of the year.
That's approaching Monta/Steph defensive issues. Podz is a willing defender, but I'm not convinced he's a good one.
He has a rookie growth curve to negotiate still; in all facets of his game. Promising...
As DUBY thought, DRAY's return has been accelerated. HE's BACK! Warriors Ball about to make a comeback! Happy New Year!
Consider that at the first whack, he will get back to Gehenna at once.
Draymond's return should provide ample cover for Kerr. I've never seen him criticized in media and by fans as much as recently. Storylines like who should we trade, who fills in for CP, Wiggins vs. Kuminga, Moody, etc. are nowhere near as exciting for the press as Draymond. Enjoy the last week off, we're about to see nonstop Draymond coverage. What would be absolutely lovely but hard to imagine would be if neither he nor the team said one word about it, and he just played basketball as it is meant to be played. I'll cross one finger if you cross the other.
Hard to imagine giving those 4 rings back...
Anyone voting for Curry? One report said he wasn’t getting that many votes compared to previous years.
I do; in fact, the entire 'Ship squad of 2 yrs ago is my West AS team. lol
He was 8th in the first round of voting, a smidge behind Luka for #2 in guard voting.
Still hope he gets more votes!
Sure, but what have they done lately? It's been almost 2 years since the Warriors last championship. Give me those teams of the mid to late 80s that never gave the fans false hopes.
Right? Trade all the OGs including Steph
What an amazing new year article! Its Patrick! 🥳
But why do I feel like our allstar collection pf writers making appearances is spelling the real actual end of “The Golden Empire”! 🤨
Actually looking forward to what you dnhq writers write when the dubs really, really, suck in three years! hahahahahah
"Dray has been reinstated after 12 game suspension" - as per The Athletic.
I am apprehensively relieved.
How many games to be suspended again? I bet no more than 5.
What a coincidence that Draymond has been officially deemed fixed as soon as we desperately need him back lol
We desperately needed him back a while ago
We needed him back even when he was here.
Comment of the week
Yep, that injury set him and the entire team back....
Its a miracle!
He’s healed!
Psychadelics will do that for ya
Pacers, fresh off a 150 point, 50 assist outing last night against the Hawks, have scored 7 points in 7 minutes against the Celtics.
Wild what happens when you’re not attacking Trae Young!
Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to hearing what’s next for you!