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Jan 30, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Celtics stats:

Offense:

13 in points scored (112.2)

11 in points in paint (48.8)

6 in fastbreak points!!!!!!!!!! (15.3)

7 in offensive efficiency!!!!!!!!

15 in shooting % (46.1%)

15 in three point % (35.6%)

11 in two point % (52.6%)

8 in off. rebound % !!!!! (23.6%)

11 in def. rebound % (77.4%)

13 in total rebound % (50.1%)

22 in opponent blocks (5.4)

2 in opponent steals!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (6.8)

18 in assists (23.5)

7 in turnovers!!!!!!!! (13.7)

Defense:

3 in points allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (105.5)

4 in opponent points in paint!!!!!!!!!!!!! (43.3)

16 in opponent fastbreak points (13.2)

5 in defensive efficiency!!!!!!!!!!

6 in opponent shooting % !!!!!!!!!! (44.4%)

11 in opponent three point % (34.5%)

9 in opponent two point % !!!! (50.6%)

5 in blocks!!!!!!!!!!! (5.9)

8 in steals!!!!! (8.2)

6 in opponent assists!!!!!!!!!! (23.0)

6 in opponent turnovers!!!!!!!!!! (15.5)

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We should use these as the header "article" for the game threads!

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Well this is interesting:

https://www.nba.com/article/2020/01/30/2020-all-star-game-format-official-release

(MAJOR changes to the all-star game format)

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I almost don't want to watch any of it solely because they're letting Dwight in the dunk contest. That's going to be a disaster.

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Welp, Tatum is in.

(and damn, we need formatting in comments Substack!!!)

@celtics

#NEBHInjuryReport Jayson Tatum will play tonight and will be on a minutes restriction, per Brad Stevens

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Jan 30, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Hummm Kerr is working on Green and D'lo ball handling tandem...

2nd unit death squad confirmed with Paschall starting!

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Jan 30, 2020Liked by punk basketball

I don't mind the losing at all, I just want to see a team that plays hard and with a passion and is working towards bigger goals next year. I seem to like WCS more than most Warriors fans, but "energy" definitely isn't his strong suit. Hopefully the replacements, though not as good, come out and play harder and don't fall into a pickup game mentality as easily.

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You know, I'm not at all sold that WCS is a better player overall than someone like Chriss or even Spellman. He does a few things right (steals, rebounds), but WCS has a lot of holes in his game.

I'll take Chriss' hustle (his rebounds are similar to WCS), and am deeply intrigued by Spellman's outside shooting. He's currently one of our best three point shooters, and if he can just sort of hang defensively, I would love to see the team explore expanding his minutes at Center.

Like a lot about this season, we aren't really maximizing current output, but planning for the eventual return of the Splash Bros. If that's the case, then I would think that Spellman has an important part to play as a stretch 5 - if we can make it work

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I would love to see Spellman turn into a real player. I love the way he and Paschall play. High IQ dudes. The question with Spellman is the obvious - body and athleticism. If slimming down a bit can get his quickness where it needs to be so he's not a defensive liability out there I really like his potential fit. Even better if he can become a defensive plus - that's so important out of your big men. We'll see how that goes.

I'm just not on the Chriss bandwagon at all. Yeah, there's some stuff he does decently, but he's also a bad defensive player. His feel for the game is just bad. He's like a young JaVale with a lot less talent. WCS is a much, much better player than he is.

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Regarding Chriss vs WCS, I think we are seeing a very interesting dichotomy. WCS is a more physically gifted player who could be flat-out dominant, as he was in college. However, his energy/commitment ebbs and flows. Chriss seems to play with a much more solid and reliable focus and motor, which helps him make the most of his slightly lesser athleticism ceiling. I actually like the Javale comp, as both are monsters on the lob and put-back, but questionable on certain fundamentals. And honestly, I think the Warriors could do well with a "young Javale" - what matters is how willing Chriss is to learn and expand his game. It seems WCS either wasn't, or maybe was just kind of biding his time before Steph and Klay came back.

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The reason I qualified JaVale with the "young" label is because he was a bad basketball player before we finally got him to stay in his lane and made him somewhat useful. Chriss is not the JaVale we saw, the one with experience to accept what he's good at and has at least been around long enough to get some feel for the game, even if it's not very natural. He's the JaVale with 0 feel for the game that hurt his team when he was on the floor.

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Jan 30, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Hmm, I see Chriss way more physically gifted in every way except for length. Those 2-3 inches of length matter, but as not as much imho as the fact that Chriss has way better hands, feet, hops, hand-eye and physical coordination, court vision and shooting touch. Basically WCS is a spazz a lot of the time where Chriss is pretty graceful for his size.

Chriss also has the hoops IQ not to take random turnaround long-twos for no reason, despite the fact that he's a way better shooter than WCS.

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Those random turnaround long twos, combined with just sitting out on a lot of rebound opportunities drive me nuts with WCS.

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WCS is frustrating to watch but from a winning basketball perspective the results are much better. The difference between them is the other team will get an open shot at the rim with Chriss on the court because he's just not where he should be at all. Whereas they'll get an open 8 footer with WCS on the court, because WCS will be where he needs to be between the ball and the basket, but will make a lazy play to drop back and give up an open shot instead of being down in stance playing hard trying to contest it.

In the end that's why WCS isn't a true impact defensive player, if he played with consistent intensity and tried to make those kinds of plays he'd be one of the best defensive C's in the league, but, well, he's much more "average" defensively because of his lack of consistent energy. That's still better than the "terrible" part of the defensive spectrum where Chriss falls, though.

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Jan 30, 2020Liked by Daniel Hardee

"WCS is a much, much better player than he is."

False.

Remove one "much." Now remove the second one.

Now reverse "WCS" and "he." Now you got it! :-)

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I don't know what about Chriss makes you think he's so good. Watch how many easy buckets other teams get when he's on the court. There's a reason the team is horrendous defensively when Chriss is out there and substantially better when WCS is out there. Chriss may block the occasional shot, but he's <i>constantly</i> in the wrong place to actually try to stop the other team from getting a shot at the rim. That one time he blocks a shot doesn't make up for it at all.

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I mean "better than WCS" does not necessarily equal "so good." But the numbers he's putting up as a 22 year old are damn good:

(Per 36)

15.5 pts on .583 true shooting (.516 fg / .760 ft)

10.8 reb / 3.5 ast / 1.2 stl / 1.7 blk

Other players averaging 15-10-3-1-1 per 36 (min. 700 minutes played): Giannis, Towns, Adebayo, Vucevic, Mason Plumlee. That's the complete list.

I don't doubt that WCS is a better defender right now, but he's also 26 years old and much closer to a finished product. "Being in the right place" strikes me as a pretty easy thing to coach up in a player who is otherwise high IQ, hard-working, and an elite athlete with good size.

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How do I do formatting in these comments - things like bold, italics, etc?

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yeah sorry, it's top of our list for substack requests. They've said it is for sure coming, but we don't have a timeline yet

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I don't think we can yet. Soon, hopefully.

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Ha ha. Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

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hahahaha

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On paper, Chriss looks to be a better rebounder, and blocks shots at a pretty similar rate to WCS.

Interestingly, opponent eFG is way better with WCS, but I don't know how much stock to put in that

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This one will be ugly but at least it's an early game.

Good to see Looney on the floor. Hope he's fully healed from whatever was ailing him.

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Jan 30, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Our point differential is only 3rd worst in the league!

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