Sometimes hitting the rock bottom early is good for long run.
It seems Warriors treating Wiseman almost in the similar way Minnesota treated Wiggins in his early years as #1 pick. (Wiggins at least won ROY tho)
That’s why Wiseman overestimates himself and underestimates NBA games and “ trying to do too much” himself, that consequently causing him to lose confidence. Remember how he played after being benched for 3 quarters ?
Looks like Wiseman hardly went through a humbling experience like Steph or Dray$( I like this spelling Sleepy introduced) had, such as not getting an offer from a good college program or being drafted in second round.
Look at Jordan. His father once told him when he was in middle school,
“ You'd be lucky to play overseas." and what did Bob Myers say after 2019 Draft ? ( I know they were not higher pick as Wiseman). around 03:38 mark
Even Kerr sent him to g league, let alone “starting” I mean “ STARTING” !
Did they think 19 years would think he was placed as a starter for development purpose? No, he would’ve thought be cause he is as good as any NBA starter.
They should approached him the way they approached Wiggins when he came to Warriors.
I’ve never written this long let alone my opinion here but I felt having swallowed a whole Easter 🥚 or sweet potato.🤔
Also game to game roster management to stay in the running for playoffs has been bad. Why would you play butt hurt Steph in FIGABABA against gutsy MIA Heat instead of in SEGABABA against loitery bound Raptors
Lacob+FO+Kerr tried and are trying to thread the needle of developing a very green #2 pick and winning to be playoff team. Unfortunately that hasn't worked for many reasons including players being out due to Covid protocols, freak injury (Curry tail bone), Oubre turning out to be an inconsistent player, Kerr's believe that motion offense cures all ills no matter who is on the roster.
But one of the reason that it is not working is that #2 pick is not emotionally mature enough to be put through that type of situation and handle up and downs in the game including sticking to set plays and role defined for him - which to be fair to him, has been ill managed by Lacob/GM/Kerr. 19 years old or not, hitting the cooler to show frustration ain't a good sign of how he self evaluates where he is in his development to be an NBA elite one day.
IMHO, at this point, Wiseman needs to be limited to Javale's kind of role irrespective of which unit he is playing with - either that or tell Steph/Dray to take it easy and let Wiseman do what he is doing in the hope that he will be ready by next season.
What identity is Kerr talking about? This is a losing team, for 2 years running. I'm not making it up. Curry identity? Dray identity? Those seem personal and unachievable for many players who don't have the skillset and understanding of the game. Identity of the past glory, 3 rings? How can those players identify with that when they've had little to do with it? These are just sound bites. Kerr will never tell anyone what he is really thinking. Rightly so. To JW: kid, you really stink. Poole: You have no leadership ability. To Oubre: We love you but I think you're a goner next season. To Lacob: How can you saddle me with such players and expect us to win?
Get rid of Kerr? I don't support that and I can't see that happening. The only thing I can see happening is upgrading the current roster slowly. I don't think there is a quick rebuild to be had given the situation the Warriors find themselves in. It's harder to bear because of the greatness and still potent Curry. But even Curry is not superhuman.
My one observation is that some players seem to have misinterpreted the ball movement idea. If they are standing at the 3pt line and the defender is sagging off 5 or 6 feet, then that is a pretty good shot and they should take it shot. It doesn't make much sense to try to pass or take the ball into traffic. That's the one thing that Wiggins seem to improve at post all star break.
Taking our lumps. I remember the game where KD asked to come out of the game because the other team sucked so bad. Welp... that has been us recently. If we can stay together we will come out of this a better team. If fingers start pointing we’re in big trouble.
Jessup come on down! Let's give you a proper NBA introduction. I get we always want to make the playoffs but unless this WHOLE team miraculously finds the sneakers from Like Mike in the next week or two they're going to absolutely get sacrificed alive by whoever they draw (if they're lucky enough to win the play in games) whether its LAC/LAL/Denver/Utah
To make this loss even worse, raptors were 1-13 in their last 14 games with losses against pistons (x3), rockets (broke their 20 game losing streak), and thunder (without 4 starters)
I would give up Wiseman for any lotto pick next year. Close to losing all hope with him.
I hope people now realize the absolute carry job that Steph is doing this year. This is a top 5-10 guy at his peak (or close to it at least). And that we need to swing a big trade if we want to be real contenders next year, especially with the Nets possessing Harden, Durant and Irving while the Lakers have LeBron and AD.
Or we could get 2 top 5 picks and everything will be okay lol.
Sometimes hitting the rock bottom early is good for long run.
It seems Warriors treating Wiseman almost in the similar way Minnesota treated Wiggins in his early years as #1 pick. (Wiggins at least won ROY tho)
That’s why Wiseman overestimates himself and underestimates NBA games and “ trying to do too much” himself, that consequently causing him to lose confidence. Remember how he played after being benched for 3 quarters ?
Looks like Wiseman hardly went through a humbling experience like Steph or Dray$( I like this spelling Sleepy introduced) had, such as not getting an offer from a good college program or being drafted in second round.
Look at Jordan. His father once told him when he was in middle school,
“ You'd be lucky to play overseas." and what did Bob Myers say after 2019 Draft ? ( I know they were not higher pick as Wiseman). around 03:38 mark
https://www.nba.com/warriors/video/teams/warriors/2019/06/21/2655756/1561093192440-bob-myers-post-draft-press-conference-2655756
Even Kerr sent him to g league, let alone “starting” I mean “ STARTING” !
Did they think 19 years would think he was placed as a starter for development purpose? No, he would’ve thought be cause he is as good as any NBA starter.
They should approached him the way they approached Wiggins when he came to Warriors.
I’ve never written this long let alone my opinion here but I felt having swallowed a whole Easter 🥚 or sweet potato.🤔
hahaha great gif
I'm guessing it was a good game to miss.
Also game to game roster management to stay in the running for playoffs has been bad. Why would you play butt hurt Steph in FIGABABA against gutsy MIA Heat instead of in SEGABABA against loitery bound Raptors
Lacob+FO+Kerr tried and are trying to thread the needle of developing a very green #2 pick and winning to be playoff team. Unfortunately that hasn't worked for many reasons including players being out due to Covid protocols, freak injury (Curry tail bone), Oubre turning out to be an inconsistent player, Kerr's believe that motion offense cures all ills no matter who is on the roster.
But one of the reason that it is not working is that #2 pick is not emotionally mature enough to be put through that type of situation and handle up and downs in the game including sticking to set plays and role defined for him - which to be fair to him, has been ill managed by Lacob/GM/Kerr. 19 years old or not, hitting the cooler to show frustration ain't a good sign of how he self evaluates where he is in his development to be an NBA elite one day.
IMHO, at this point, Wiseman needs to be limited to Javale's kind of role irrespective of which unit he is playing with - either that or tell Steph/Dray to take it easy and let Wiseman do what he is doing in the hope that he will be ready by next season.
That is one heck of a gif you found for the article picture
What identity is Kerr talking about? This is a losing team, for 2 years running. I'm not making it up. Curry identity? Dray identity? Those seem personal and unachievable for many players who don't have the skillset and understanding of the game. Identity of the past glory, 3 rings? How can those players identify with that when they've had little to do with it? These are just sound bites. Kerr will never tell anyone what he is really thinking. Rightly so. To JW: kid, you really stink. Poole: You have no leadership ability. To Oubre: We love you but I think you're a goner next season. To Lacob: How can you saddle me with such players and expect us to win?
Get rid of Kerr? I don't support that and I can't see that happening. The only thing I can see happening is upgrading the current roster slowly. I don't think there is a quick rebuild to be had given the situation the Warriors find themselves in. It's harder to bear because of the greatness and still potent Curry. But even Curry is not superhuman.
I remember a few years ago, Kerr sat the rested the whole starting five against a then powerhouse Spurs.
They didn't lose nearly this badly.
Should have came here. We have plenty of center minutes
https://twitter.com/jovanbuha/status/1378206255706112001?s=20
Marc Gasol: “It’s a hard pill to swallow because I know I’m going to be out of the lineup at some point.”
My one observation is that some players seem to have misinterpreted the ball movement idea. If they are standing at the 3pt line and the defender is sagging off 5 or 6 feet, then that is a pretty good shot and they should take it shot. It doesn't make much sense to try to pass or take the ball into traffic. That's the one thing that Wiggins seem to improve at post all star break.
Had to step away after first quarter. Thankfully looks like I didn't missed anything
Oubre played only 18 mins - Kerr's decision or is he hurt?
Taking our lumps. I remember the game where KD asked to come out of the game because the other team sucked so bad. Welp... that has been us recently. If we can stay together we will come out of this a better team. If fingers start pointing we’re in big trouble.
Jessup come on down! Let's give you a proper NBA introduction. I get we always want to make the playoffs but unless this WHOLE team miraculously finds the sneakers from Like Mike in the next week or two they're going to absolutely get sacrificed alive by whoever they draw (if they're lucky enough to win the play in games) whether its LAC/LAL/Denver/Utah
There is a possibility that we won't have the worst blowout game of the night. PHX up 30 over Thunder at the end of the 1st.
To make this loss even worse, raptors were 1-13 in their last 14 games with losses against pistons (x3), rockets (broke their 20 game losing streak), and thunder (without 4 starters)
I would give up Wiseman for any lotto pick next year. Close to losing all hope with him.
I hope people now realize the absolute carry job that Steph is doing this year. This is a top 5-10 guy at his peak (or close to it at least). And that we need to swing a big trade if we want to be real contenders next year, especially with the Nets possessing Harden, Durant and Irving while the Lakers have LeBron and AD.
Or we could get 2 top 5 picks and everything will be okay lol.