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I think I want them to take a wing like Okoro in the draft and to fill out the center position in free agency, not that that's super relevant to this thread. Anyways...

We need to give Poole more credit, he hasn't played point guard since high school, and in his first game as a starting point guard, he kept the pace up-tempot, only had two turnovers, and was pretty solid overall as a PG. Given that the position is often considered to have a very steep learning curve, he deserves some major props.

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The early returns on the Andrew Wiggins experiment are pretty darn good. If nothing else, he is a wildly better fit than D'Lo was. The defense is still a work in progress but that's to be expected with a group of guys that have barely had enough time to exchange hand shakes. I still think the Warriors should try to trade down in the draft as even Anthony Edwards doesn't look like a sure thing NBA player, let alone a star player, and there are a bunch of guys farther down that have almost as good a chance to stick around the league. LaMelo Ball might well be the closest to a "sure thing" and he comes with a lot of baggage that I don't think the Warriors really need. You can just image the griping if Kerr decides he would rather have Steph Curry as his starting point guard. On the other hand, LaMelo would be the most valuable in trade. Regardless of what they do in the off season, this team plus Curry and Thompson looks like a contender.

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Always been a fan of Chriss and now I'm just a mark. Also count me in as a Wiggins fan. I just hope he can keep that up but damn he's had an all star start to his Dubs tenure.

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Duby, are comments in chronological descending or ascending order in here? Today they seem to be all over the place...

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It's an algorithm based on recency, engagement, and those hearts.

Sleepy messed it all up by being too awesome.

We have a "sort by new" toggle option on our wish list but for right now it can get random like this

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I like the algorithm

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I do not. Part of the fun of the exchange in a blog is the empirical process to reach emergent consensus, or, disagreement. Reading through the threads is a requirement to join a discussion. This "algorithm" allows someone to come in, drop a comment that suddenly jumps to the top by reflecting the consensus, making the thread that got us there, irrelevant.

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The one really big drawback from this site is the inability to follow threads once they get past a certain point.

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Yep, methinks this sucks. Reminds me a lot in the inherent fallacy of TS% as an indicator and a comparative tool of shooting excellence! You get a guy like Harden that sucks as an efficient shooter from the floor that is comparable to Steph in the TS% metric thanks to the skewing of the metric caused by his inordinate FT opportunities. This algorithm can also have that effect in here!

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What happens with all the 10 days contracts after the 2nd renewal expires? Do we have enough for minimums? How many do we have? Pargo, Norvell, Toscano-Anderson...

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Toscano-Anderson is under contract through the rest of the year, not on a 10-day

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Good question. I have been wondering the same (money left below LT line). In terms of players, there are more than enough players in G-league ready to sign up for 10-day contracts.

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its been only covered in vague terms, but I think the team has room for at least another round of 10 days.

This was the last day for Pargo (and maybe others) because those 10 days are as per calendar. So the All Star break will eat the rest of these current ones

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I think Dubs are doing 10-day contract and then upto two weeks of having less than 14 (or is it13?) players and the back to 10-day contract.. Rinse and repeat. The only limitation is that a player can't get more than two 10-day contracts. Pargo will be back someday between end of all star break and 2 weeks from now.

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Probably Snacks too. I like him, I wish he was able to get more of a chance because he gets streaky.

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I don’t mean to sound like a D’AR hater but ever since the trade, the team is playing the brand of basketball Kerr wants and it’s a lot more enjoyable to watch. I didn’t like the trade at first not because I thought highly of D-Lo but I just didn’t like the return. It’s an extremely small sample size but I think Wiggins is going to fit in just fine. He’s showing a lot more effort on defense which is what I wanted to see. Minnesota is still going to be awful next year, we’ll get that pick which will probably be 9-12th

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rcknfnjust now

I am with you on this. Wiggins is a drop-in fit in Kerr's system and game flows. And that is w/o him having played much with Dubs. Also Dray gets to play point-forwad which leads to better pace. Frankly, even if Wiggins regresses a bit after honeymoon period, the game as a whole would still be more fun to watch.

Nothing against DLo but that bumper car move, slow motion pull-ups were not fun to watch.

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

The year of feel good losses continues. Thinking we have the tank parked in just the right spot. Right now, we've only got 12 wins and are holding down the worst record, giving us a two game "lead" over Cleveland (14 wins) and three games over Atlanta (15). The dreaded 4th-worst record in the league goes to Minnesota with 16 wins - it'd be quite a stretch to see the Warriors vault over all three of these teams over the course of the final 27 games. At our current pace, we'd only end up with 18 wins on the season. Things could change once Steph gets back, but even with him, chances are excellent that they'll finish in the bottom three.

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I don't know, with Steph/Dray/Wiggins, I could easily see them going on a winning streak and screwing us up. I'd try to hold Steph off for as long as possible while trying to tank hard right now to expand the "lead"

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This draft might be so weak that the #1 == #10 pick

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Even when Steph comes back, I doubt he plays every game. They’ll manage it strategically.

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I expect that too. Dray keeps mentoring/coaching, Steph keeps motivating the players, Klay keeps motivating the supporters. They’re earning all their salaries

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Each game, regardless of outcome, just gets me more and more hyped for next season

Dream outcome (personally):

Steph

Klay

Dray

Wiggins

Aron Baynes

Our pick

Trevor Ariza

Chriss

Looney

Paschall

GR3

Bowman

Spellman

Poole

Smiley

Thats a fun championship contender right there, with some solid defensive chops.

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Damn, GR3 is doing too well in Philly, we have to recommend him to stay put

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Don't you think that's too many players at 4/5?

Instead of Spellman, it be better to get one more Wing.

Also it will be interesting to see what FO does with those two second round picks (in 45-55 range).

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Ariza is old and not very good

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D and the occasional three, owed a fairly hefty amount by a team who might want cap space and a high draft pick in 2021. He isn't gonna light the world on fire, but using the Iggy exception on an old defensive player feels strangely appropriate

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He’ll be 35 by the start of next year. I hope they can do better than that with the exception.

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Chriss is absolutely a starting center in this league. He plays with edge and has improved dramatically throughout the season. A few bobbles on Defensive rotations and placement should not worry anyone. I hate to say it so early but the absolute All chips in gamble on Wiggins looks really good. If the Warriors use those extra 2nd round picks and the trade exception to get the Heats newest back up SF... a new death lineup might be born.

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I have to agree, people looking way past the fact that he's a 22 year old who's never had regular minutes on a functional NBA team. In some ways that's worse than being a rookie, and he's already shown as much improvement as anyone else on the roster this year.

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I was super skeptical of Wiggins--still am, because this is still honeymoon and he's a streaky player--but if he keeps this up for the great majority of the rest of the season and comes back next year a consistent version of this player?

We'll have won this trade hands-down. Getting that 2021 pick is going to matter also because KAT and DLo are gonna be the No Defense All Stars.

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After Dub game, watched end of Laker-Denver OT game. Next year, the road to Finals for Dubs will definitely go through Lakers. Twin towers of McGee/Howard is something we need think about in Off-Season/Draft acquisitions; add, Davis' length and inside game, and, we have a team-building challenge ahead.

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Can we just fast forward to November 2020, please? :)

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

No way! These are the games we will remember very fondly when we’ll be back doing .600+

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Also, with a high lotto pick incoming, this summer league should be the Warriors most exciting one since 2012.

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

I get it, but I'm kind of interested in seeing this team come together. Once Steph and Klay are back at full strength, it should be fun to watch...

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by Eric Apricot, punk basketball

Players in the three point era who have averaged 15 pts 10 reb 3 ast 2 blk per 36 in > 800 minutes:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Bill Walton

Shaquille O/Neal

Tim Duncan

Hakeem Olajuwon

David Robinson

Kevin Garnett

Vlade Divac

Chris Webber

Pau Gasol

Joel Embiid

Anthony Davis

Marquese Chriss

That's the complete list. And if you filter for .595 true shooting, it's just AD and Chriss.

Chriss is 22.

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Excellent research! Where did you find the data?

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NBA.com/stats has gotten so much better. I don't go BBR anymore.

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Paid BasketballReference.com service I believe

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Giannis who?

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Wow sleepy you are Awesome thank you for the research!

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Can't believe he is still just 22. Felt like he already experienced an entire career of having been drafted high, flaming out, called a bust, latching onto a team as a reclamation project, playing very well, and now may be a rotational piece for a contending team next year.

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Damn. Let's hope we can turn the Marquis into a freaking All-Star next year just as an Eff You to the League. Get all five of our starters into the game.

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In his recent interview Marquese made very clear it was him that FYed the league and decided to stay Warrior.

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Wait whaaaaat??

Got a link by any chance? I missed this.

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Damn I can’t find it anymore... in an interview, he said that during his waiver time “someone called”, and he agreed with his agent to politely “ignore the call” because he wanted to stay with the Dubs.

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Wow. That shows wisdom beyond his years. This guy has serious upside.

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It also speaks to what Kerr, coaching staff, Bob, Steph/Dray/Klay/OGs have created.

For all the criticism Dray gets for being abrasive and insensitive, players want to stay here even when this season, he is the only guy out of big three going to battle with newbies.

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Any guess who called and was politely ignored? I bet on the Celts

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Great stuff, Sleepy. Thanks.

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Fucking remarkable box score line for Wiggins lol. I want to believe in those steal and block numbers.

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Regarding Chriss, I'm liking what I'm seeing as far as a bench player, but I dunno, he just seems kinda soft on the boards to me to be the starter next season. The play at 25 seconds being an example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYUPZJJ0YHg

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I dunno, Chriss has stretches where it looks like no one else on the floor wants any part of him while he's rebounding. Could definitely see him being one of those guys who can just overwhelm even taller 5s with his physicality when the games matter more, like Draymond. I'm sure the strongest guys in the league will still be a challenge, but the Adamses and Golberts have their reputation for a reason.

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Next year, when the intensity of the games comes up, playing with a competitive team winning against top teams that are gunning for us, that would be more concerning. As it is, I feel like he has room to boost his focus when the games start counting.

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IMO, he got caught flat footed with a player running downhill at him in that play, overall he's been beasting with the rim protection and the slamming on offense...an under-performer, who is finding himself with us... I see him as a small ball starter, in the rotation, but we will need a big guy at times (I want it to be Wiseman). I will have to study his rebounding toughness.

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I'm super impressed with the how well the team flowed on offense and their solid communication on defense. Chriss has looked great for pretty much the whole season and you can tell his comfort level is there. Wiggins has been a pleasant surprise thus far. Loving his current intensity, but I expect his percentages on the 3-ball to dip eventually.

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Chriss has been especially good the last couple weeks, and Wiggins should be able to have a better-than-career 3pt % once Steph and Klay are back, assuming he's still with the team.

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Honestly, now I'm worried about how we are going to keep Chriss when he fits free agency this offseason if he continues to play this well.

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He's under contract for next year.

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Wiggins through three games: 25.1 pts per 36 on .701 true shooting with a (total) net +49 on/off.

Also, Quese is a freaking beast.

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Slash brothers struck again , can’t wait to see them with world class spacing

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

This is why I want them both on the team next season!

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Well, Marquese is awesome. Simple as that.

Wiggins is Great especially when you think Kerr is having him play the role targeted for next season.

Poole needs to keep playing some point. Maybe we actually go for a guard w length in the draft but Poole appears to be a capable back up point at 19 yo. Who knows?

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I like Poole at the point. He is an above average passer and I think at point he tends to not fire away like a lawn sprinkler- as much.

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I think Poole's defense still needs some work, and in order to be a good rotation player he's going to have to improve his shooting percentages a bit. But, given his age and what we've seen so far, both of those things should be achievable. It may take him a couple years though, which means next season when the pressure is higher people will probably be begging the team to waive him.

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That, and also he pushes the pace really nicely. And then moves off-ball after giving the rock up.

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Bowman is already the backup PG until further notice. Poole will be fighting with Damion Lee to back up Klay

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And Poole started at the point tonight.

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He played 4 minutes tonight off the bench and only in the first half. You may be right but Poole may be the better option as the full time back up.

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I didn’t watch the game tonight but Kerr has favored Bowman all season. Right now he is the better choice for backup PG too. Not saying Poole can’t play PG minutes but I see him more as an Eric Gordon type of role in the future.

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Poole has more length than Bowman, so theoretically could play alongside Steph when Klay’s resting with either of them running point.

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Kerr is getting rotations ready for Babyface while also trying to give JP @ point a look.

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Bowman hasn’t been playing as much of late. It’s hard to play in this league when you’re a guard who can’t shoot They are going with the Poole at PG for now.

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IMO Bowman's weakness lately has been picking up foolish fouls which negate his otherwise good defense.

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I think he’s better suited for pg. He’s a better playmaker than I think anyone was expecting.

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Top players:

Warriors:

Wiggins: (+9)

27 points 9/14 FGs 3/4 three pointers 6/6 FTs

4 rebounds 5 assists 2 turnovers 2 steals 4 blocks

Chriss: (+2)

18 points 7/11 FGs 0/1 three pointer 4/6 FTs

12 rebounds (2 off.) 3 assists 3 turnovers 3 blocks

Pargo: (+5)

15 points 6/11 FGs 3/5 three pointers

1 rebound 2 assists 2 turnovers

Honorable mention:

Paschall: (-7)

12 points 5/8 FGs 0/2 three pointers 2/2 FTs

6 rebounds (2 off.) 2 assists 3 turnovers

Poole: (+0)

12 points 4/12 FGs 2/7 three pointers 2/2 FTs

3 rebounds 3 assists 2 turnovers 1 steal

Suns:

Booker: (+17)

27 points 8/22 FGs 2/8 three pointers 9/9 FTs

5 rebounnds 8 assists 5 turnovers 2 steals 1 block

Bridges: (+0)

14 points 6/12 FGs 2/4 three pointers

2 rebounds 1 assist 1 turnover 3 steals 1 block

Okobo: (+12)

12 points 5/9 FGs 1/4 three pointers 1/2 FTs

2 rebounds 3 assists 2 turnovers

Honorable mention:

Oubre Jr.: (-4)

15 points 5/16 FGs 3/10 three pointers 2/2 FTs

6 rebounds

Johnson: (+18)

9 points 3/6 FGs 3/6 three pointers

2 rebounds 1 assist 1 turnover 2 steals

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Feb 13, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Final stats:

Warriors:

50.6% shooting (39/77 FGs)

11/31 three pointers

17/19 FTs

38 rebounds (4 off.)

27 assists

22 turnovers

8 steals

7 blocks

Warriors:

46.2% shooting (42/91 FGs)

14/37 three pointers

14/15 FTs

40 rebounds (8 off.)

25 assists

14 turnovers

14 steals

4 blocks

Points in paint:

Warriors: 54

Suns: 48

Fastbreak points:

Warriors: 9

Suns: 14

Points off turnovers:

Warriors: 21

Suns: 32

Bench points:

Warriors: 33

Suns: 37

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2012/12/22/190363.gif

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Like J-Ridah used to say, those turnovers are killing us.

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This just feels like... spinning plates

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Great game!

Chriss really good again and Wiggins great game too. Very excited for this team

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Wow didn't realize both Omari and Jacob Evans now in Santa Cruz. Probably both get re-signed to the parent squad in off-season (as much as I hate Evans' fit)

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The Wolves are fucking morons if they think Spellman isn't good enough to make their active roster. I feel bad for him, hope they waive him so the Warriors can sign him again.

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ISWYDT

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Huh? I thought they got assigned to the T'Wolves' affiliate in Iowa.

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Not Santa Cruz. Iowa Wolves. Let's not mix up Santa Cruz with Des Moines 😉

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🤡 I thought both had been released and assigned back to our minor leagues. My bad.

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Really? Bob with some other worldly moves. Hopefully Omari is back full time on rest-of-the-season contract when we have enough space under LT line.

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I’m worried if Evans gets brought back. Have no idea why they would do that.

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Wait, is Omari actually back in Santa Cruz? The googles seem to think he's still with the Wolves, in the G league. If we got Omari back that would make me so happy.

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TWolves have gone luxury with Omari and JE. And Omari has his soul painted gold and blue.

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Yeah Iowa Wolves.

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Can Chriss be a full time starter at the 5 on a winning team?

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I think unless he starts hitting 34+% from 3 and becomes a true stretch 5, he's still not quite beefy enough to really be everyday starter material. Maybe even then he'd still be better suited off the bench.

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What about he and Looney playing ~24 minutes each? They’d both be outsized against guys like Adams, but could wear him down by making him work.

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I think it depends on what the rest of the roster looks like. If the Warriors are going small at the 5 full time, then it's important get quality shooters this offseason to spread the floor and wear out opposing 5s by running them through screens all game.

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Warriors have a high lotto pick and a $17m TPE to use this offseason, so for all we know we could be looking at Wiseman at the 5, or the Warriors could turn that TPE into Marc Gasol or Myles Turner or something.

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Turner/Chriss would be a dream 1-2 punch at the 5. Both of their skill sets are similar and fits very well with the warriors system. Splitting their minutes at the 5 would be ideal.

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It's worth a try.

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Are we really gonna trust Looney to be healthy enough to play 24mpg for a full season tho?

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I’d prefer him as someone coming off the bench ,a change of place center still think that position needs an upgrade to be competitive

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Yes.

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