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Tyrese Maxey: out 3-4 weeks with a foot fracture

Desmond Bane: will be reevaluated in 2-3 weeks with a sprained right big toe

Ja Morant: week-to-week with a sprained left foot

Crossing fingers for continued health of our Warriors…

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And Butler's missing the last 2 games of the Heat's road trip due to that pesky sore knee. Love has a hairline fracture in his thumb, don't know how serious that is. Cade Cunningham's sore shin might require surgery. They're falling right and left. I guess that's just how it goes, basketball is hard on the body, even if it's not heavy contact like football.

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(Disclaimer: The following is a nod to the long history of “inappropriate” limericks and their important role in literature.)

When Klay’s shooting well I’m delighted,

Some might say I’m sexually excited,

But poor shot selection,

Deflates any erection,

I know mine had certainly subsided

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Nov 20, 2022·edited Nov 20, 2022

We all told you to stay off of the Klay-alis, but did you listen? Noooo.

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Nov 19, 2022·edited Nov 19, 2022

I'm confused. Shouldn't you have posted this during the game thread yesterday while you

were deputized, and then used it as a pretext to declare martial law?

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Huh?

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In the ensuing chaos...

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Homer boner?

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I mean, we’re 7-9. Assume three bad losses had gone the other way. We’d be 10-6 and no one would be all that worried, nor calling for change. Of note: to the extent that there is a mob with pitchforks calling for change, I have to admit my barn no longer even has its pitchfork; because I sit with it by my side at all times in the house, at the ready ….

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I always wondered who put out the 'Pitchforks and Paranoia' podcast on Youtube. Now I know.

Probably should have figured it out from the "we're wasting Kuminga's prime" episode.

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Kuminga has only prime, don't worry about it.

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Nov 19, 2022·edited Nov 19, 2022

Considering that after Summer League (we won the Mac McClung sweepstakes!) and preseason (Patrick Baldwin Jurant!), we all* thought that the Warriors would be 24-1 after 16 games, I suspect we'd still be worried and calling for change/beheadings at 10-6.

*me. I thought that. also, math is hard.

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I have a proposal for the NBA: make the refs whistles taste horrible. If the refs have to suffer every time they put the thing in their mouth they might hesitate to make all those bs calls.

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Once, early in my teaching career, I got to sub for a middle school PE class. They gave me a set of keys and something called "the sub whistle." Needless to say, I did not whistle once.

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My mask suspects that refs' whistles already taste horrible.

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Can we make them taste even worse after their really bad calls?? It's the only way they will ever learn.

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Maybe we give them a 2nd, delicious chocolate mint whistle that can be used only when calling defensive fouls for holding off-ball...

Perhaps a carefully scaled series of food-related incentives for correct calls? For instance, you could call traveling by eating a brownie. You get milk too, if it is on Harden.

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We give the refs two whistles, one for fouls on each team. One is marked "Golden State" and it does not work. The other is used for all other teams' fouls, and it works great and is loud and clear.

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Nov 19, 2022·edited Nov 19, 2022

Pre-garbage time bench* in the Phoenix game: -1

Pre-garbage time bench in the Knicks game: +0

Less Wiseman + More DDV = Less Bad Bench. Still needs to be improved for a championship contender but this bench would not have gone 0-5 on the road trip.

*By bench I mean when Curry sits.

EDIT: Also I see what Hartenstein's fiance means, what's the point of signing Hartenstein if you aren't going to take advantage of his passing ability.

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> Less Wiseman + More DD = Less Bad Bench

Yes having our most high profile vet signing back helps a lot.

And just a lot less young guys in general... JK/Moody have not cracked 9 minutes including a few DNPs since the lineup change aside from the Spurs game. They were regularly hitting 12+ minutes... with Moody getting 20+ a couple times prior to that.

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So harti might be available on the cheap?

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No. It means that Thibs is not a very good offensive or adaptable coach. There's a reason his teams have issues. And it's not just the players. He's living in an NBA that hasn't existed for at least 15 years. Give him another 15 years and he might be caught up to 2022.

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Thibs has been the perfect coach for the Dolan-owned Knicks, who inevitably make bad decisions. He's one of the most overrated coaches in the league.

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Home Cooking!

The Knicks decided to double Klay from the beginning of the game and his response was making the right pass and scoring a bunch of points to get a nice early cushion. Was Thibs the coach, or still watching every Bulls game, when Klay went for the 3 point record against the bulls or something?

It’s pretty clear that teams are going to guard Klay no matter what this season, if he’s cold they want to keep him that way, and if he’s hot they are toast. Curry will have room to operate with the starters. Klay is part of the answer.

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Pressuring Klay has been a good tactic up until the Knicks game, for the most part, because he has responded with poor shot selection and off balance shots. Last night his decision making was far better, and it made a big difference.

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Agreed, but Klay/Poole might be just as important.

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It's pretty clear that the Warriors are implementing the "lightyears ahead" strategy of being just good enough in the regular season to sneak into the playin at which point they take off their fake glasses and street clothes and turn back into Superteam. This "two goal line" approach let's them contend for a championship *and* be in the lottery for the slim, but non-zero, chance at drafting Wembanyama. Even if they lose the Wembanyama stakes, they still end up with a lottery pick. Of course they can't admit to deliberately throwing games. That's my story and I'm sticking to it every time the Warriors blow a winnable game.

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Isn’t the lottery decided after the playin results are in?

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That and even then it's a crap shoot whether a lottery team gets the first pick for Victor or for that matter the second, which I guess will be Scoot.

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I stand corrected, you are right that if the Warriors finish 10th but end up being the 8th seed, they won't be in the lottery anymore. They will need to trade their pick to a team that will be in the lottery for the two goal lines strategy to work.

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During, pregame, Kerr talked about Moses not getting playing time. Sandwiched between saying that it's a numbers thing (i.e. he is behind vets in pecking order of playable minutes), Kerr said "Mosses can't have turnovers by doing things like shoveling the pass in the paint. TOVs are for Steph and Dray because they handle ball alot (😃). He needs to kick it out or make a bounce pass. Also he needs to defend w/o fouling".

Following is just my thought:

We don't see it this way but I think Kerr considers Lamb a vet as compared to young fellas since Lamb played four years in college. Kerr isn't looking at where someone was picked in draft or if someone went undrafted. He is giving "vets" bit more rope. Basically, while Dubs are in the hole, what can you provide to team today and that's why JMG and Lamb are getting minutes. Hopefully that changes when (and if) we are comfortably positioned in WC seeding.

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This is why I cannot understand saying that this is actually a better environment to develop in than being on a losing team. Not being able to take risks and see what works and what doesn't just seems like they are trying to put these guys on a path of being role players in the league. They were spinning it last season as these guys "learning what it takes to win which not all rookies get" but I think for a young guy it is better to develop a skillset first and then refine it into a winning player skillset (a la Andrew Wiggins). I dunno, just seems to me like another drawback of going the half measure two timeline route.

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I think Steph and Kerr at times have acknowledged that developing on a championship team is hard. It's a mixed bag: The young 'uns get to see up close how champions prepare and play and get the OGs guidance, as well as a championship coaching staff, but the pressure is more intense and playing time is harder to get.

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Why not develop skills you need to succeed in this current roster’s layout to win and then later if their roles are increased to learn more later down the road. It still works in the long run and works better now in the short run. Just as Kerr is trying to do, it’s just the opposite of what you mentioned. Both teaching styles and learning curves can work. Playing on a losing team would let us see if these players are busts or not, but playing within out system ensures that they can be productive players for the long term.

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Most try to Develop those skills sets in college.

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Yea I agree. Sitting on the bench is just not the best way to develop your skill set.

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The sound of that Moody stuff is ominous. Like Kerr is taking out his roster frustrations on the guy.

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Nov 19, 2022·edited Nov 19, 2022

Saw JMG last down the floor to get back on D by a mile again in his first stint. He surely would have been pulled at that point if he was one of the young guys. But instead he had a nice game.

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It's weird because Lamb overhelped a lot in the 2nd quarter. I think it resulted in 3 made 3s I think.

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Yeah, by far Lamb's worst game (though he had another bad game recently).

Since I am selling tickets to the #LambOfGod exhibit in front of Chase, I'm hoping he reins in the overhelping. Save that for Thanksgiving.

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Nov 19, 2022Liked by punk basketball

It may not be a large sample size... but over the last 6 games since Kerr rejiggered the rotation, the Warriors have a 107.3 defensive rating (6th in the league) and a +6.4 net rating (3rd best).

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Well thats encouraging.

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What if you remove Spurs game?

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Nov 19, 2022·edited Nov 19, 2022

Why remove that game? Do consider that most the other games are against elite offenses in the Kings 2x, the Cavs, and the Suns…

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Not having Wiseman lifts a lot of defensive weight lol

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Bah, in those games Wiseman was on the floor for like 7 minutes. Don’t blame the kid.

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Same exact story for three seasons now

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It would be more meaningful to say it has been the same story for 50 games. He didn't play at all last season, half of the season before. The man is down in SC to figure it out and we still can't get through a post-game thread without beating him up.

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I'm still hopeful he'll get better... but he's definitely got a long way to go.

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Nov 19, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

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JaMychal Green said the team had a great team meeting this morning: "We addressed the elephants in the room... we had that conversation and it was much needed.

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May his stock’s ascent begin to climb from here on out

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JMG looked much more patient and comfortable out there today... really hope he keeps that up... and still crossing my fingers that he eventually rediscovers his shot.

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I really liked his patience with the ball deep in the paint, and it paid off a couple of times.

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https://twitter.com/WarriorsMuse/status/1593847233396764673

Dating back to last season, the Warriors are 10-1 when Klay Thompson shoots 50% from the field.

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Klay has only had 11 games he's shot 50% dating back to last season?

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45 regular season games

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From Klay in postgame “I keep up a lot on Dub Nation HQ. You seen that site lately? Gosh. It’s been motivating, very motivating. We got some people — I’m not gonna name any names. You know who you are.”

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Hey Klay - was at Chase tonight with chatty friend. Didn’t catch as much as usual but DID catch your game. Nice.

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Hi Klay - do it 40 more times this year now please

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And "I hear Asher is their ring leader."

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https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1593855986162286592

Klay Thompson said he “watched a lot of film” and he and Draymond Green had an honest conversation this morning. Led to more patient shot selection tonight.

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Good. But wtf why does Dray have to say this and not Kerr?

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You WANT it that way. Horizontal feedback is different than vertical feedback.

That sentence looks suspicious in print.

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The fact that he’s folding a paper airplane from the stat sheet the whole time is great

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Klay (on Players only meeting this morning) - "Very constructive meeting. Dray held the floor. He is such a great motivator". Also "Had a great meeting with Dray this morning ". Also "I think this morning was incredible time of growth for this team"

So demise of Dray's leadership is overblown?

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Translation: "you listen to dray. We all saw what happens when you don't with Poole!"

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“We’re going to come together as a team and I’ll punch every one of you mofos to make that happen.”

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If this is indeed true, this is the way he gets back the trust and respect. Does that mean Dray yelling at players on the court is not too far behind. 😃

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also, rumored to have punched himself in the face for emphasis

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That’s what I was just thinking. The talks about Dray being checked out and uncommitted are apparently BS. Good to hear.

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You telling me twitter and the internets were just making things up?!

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