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For those scoreboard watching:

The Kings are two games back of Memphis, and hold the tie breaker (H2H is tied, Kings will have better conference record if they have same record). The Kings and Grizzlies will both have something to play for when they play the Pelicans, and the Kings will almost certainly have something to play for against the Warriors.

The Suns, meanwhile, play the Spurs next, and a win clinches the 4 seed for them. Their last 3 games will be effectively meaningless, two of which are against the Lakers, then Clippers. Probably they'll rest the main guys against the Clippers in that last game.

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Apr 4, 2023Liked by punk basketball

As per Steph

“I still feel like we can [keep everyone together]," Curry said on 95.7 The Game's Steiny & Guru. "Obviously, we understand how important Bob is, we understand how important Coach is, our core, Draymond, Klay [Thompson], myself, Andre [Iguodala], even though he's had a rough year with injuries and whatnot, he's been extremely valuable behind the scenes in helping maintain our culture.”

https://apple.news/AuDQXbmkGTVeYi-CAsFRT0A

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One of the great fortunes of Dubs fans is to never have had to deal with the agony of Draymond Green being on a team you are rooting against (well, maybe some Dubs fans of college bball can't say that, but he may have been less irritating then). I, for one, hope this can continue.

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Not sure about Andre???

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the heart wants what the heart wants.

But yeah, that guy is retirement age for sure

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He was at retirement age a year or two ago.

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Hey if I had been getting NBA pay like Iggy, retirement at 37 would have sounded good to me!

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

First round draft picks could retire after 1 year of play so 19 years old? Imagine…

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I just want to give Wiggs a hug. Thank you Dubs organization for the support you showed this man. We love you Two-way.

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Really shows the organizations true colors in times when players need them. Hats off to the organization. I’m sure players are seeing this

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SDSU down 12 at the half (could've been worse). If only there was precedent for a comeback from that large of a deficit.

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Nice Warriors impression by SDSU

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

Thinking the same thing. SD got the lead down to 6. Now down by 8. But they’re missing FTs while UConn is hitting all theirs.

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Back down to 5

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

In honor of national championship tonght, I was trying to think of Warriors who have won NCAA titles and have a ring with the Dubs. The only ones I could think of are Quinn Cook and of course Dub legend Mo Buckets! Am I missing anyone from the current run? What about 1975?

EDIT: Jamaal Wilkes

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I'll tell you the closest near-miss ever, though not from the current run. Wilt had two NBA championships but his Kansas Jayhawks lost to the NC Tarheels by one point in the NCAA finals — in triple overtime!

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From what I've read, there are only 46 players to ever win both.

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

DDV and Lamb in six-eight weeks.

[EDIT] Derp, was thinking of Ty.

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Lamb won a college title?

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Jerome, yes. Lamb, no.

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

That's right, how could I forget about Jerome and his crazy college career? (losing to UMBC, then winning the title the next year)

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Er… no.

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Frustrating to have "one of those games" when a win would've meant so much. One the one hand . . .

WIGGINS IS BACK, who cares about the other hand?

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Screw all the people giving him shit and making up rumors about his girlfriend and family. Hope everything is ok with his father and that he’s not rushing back.

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just avoid nba twitter

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Yeah a terrible situation to begin with, made way worse by idiots on social media.

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Random Rant. Kerr doesn’t like playing bigs because he and the team changed the league by running small ball lineups that ran big men out the gym.

These days big men are more mobile and can shoot so we don’t have that same advantage anymore. The rest of the league’s counter to this was the use of lengthy athletic wings who can run with good pace, shoot, and defend and kept Big Men who can do the same with passable mobility.

Obviously Kerr knows this and his counter to that is to play even smaller players who are faster and can shoot slightly better than that. So he is doubling down on going even smaller and plays a 4 guard lineup like yesterday where the tallest player on the court was 6’7 guard Thompson. Before GP2 got here he often went with 3 guard lineups. He wants to shift the game to an even faster pace and hopefully he can get that same advantage they had years ago.

Problem #1 our core is aging and are slower.

Problem #2 is we have to hit our 3s to win games that’s our bread and butter. When we don’t, we lose, it’s simple.

Problem #3 we give up on rebounding and interior defense. Then when you try to remedy the first by sagging off the perimeter, we give up open or poorly contested 3s.

Regardless if we win or lose this season, I feel like this off season our Roster will be playing catch up to mirror other Rosters and not the other way around for the first time in a long while. Bigs are serviceable now and they can run against small ball lineups, Bigs getting drafted these days fit that mold otherwise they wouldn’t be in the league. Basically we need 5 more Kumingas or 1 Wemby or somebody like JJJ or a whole team of Kumingas with 1 Steph and 1 Dray. If we want to dominant again we’ll have to adapt. DDV won’t be back next season most likely. His replacement should most likely be a combo Big who can defend interior decently, grab rebounds, run the floor, and have a reliable offensive weapon or maybe hit a 3. You know somebody like JMG but better haha.

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Whiffing on Wiseman is probably going to go down as the biggest missed opportunity, given our constraints. I know in league consensus no one was seriously thinking Haliburton at #2, but that doesn't mean that we didn't miss, and it had an impact.

After that, Moody at 14 is maaaaybe another missed opportunity, though maybe less impactful, and harder to have expected to get "right," and still not entirely clear who we should've gotten instead. Herb Jones?

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

The main challenge the Warriors have, is they have not had the ability to add any significant free agent for 7-ish years since going over the cap. So of course other teams are going to catch up. I don't think there is a silver bullet to this, that is the whole point of the cap. Yes they could make more trades, but their main positive trade asset is Curry, and I think we can agree trading him wouldn't help. Getting Wiggins (and Kuminga) basically amounts to wizardry already, I don't know really how to expect more. Yes, there are always going to be examples of undrafted guys or whatever that worked out well for other teams, but I don't think it's that the Warriors don't want big, athletic players. But every team wants them, so how are Dubs to get them? They went all in and tried with Wiseman, and it didn't work out. Not just because of Kerr. On Detroit Wiseman is still rated as one of the worst players in the league by some of the advanced stats (538 Raptor for example), and they lose every game with him consistently the worst +/- on the team, so it's hard to argue.

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Detroit was losing almost every game before they got Wiseman too.

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Oh I agree, I can't say Wiseman is hurting them. I mean they likely want to lose. But I don't like the idea that the Warriors didn't give Wiseman a chance, or that he's now doing so much better on Detroit. So far in his career, he has not helped any NBA team win games, or had a positive impact while on the floor. This hopefully will change, and he has a lot of room to get better. Maybe he will or maybe he won't. But I don't think he didn't do well with the Dubs because Kerr doesn't want to play a big man, but because right now he's a terrible NBA big man.

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Yeah, I get that. My opinion is well known. I wanted him to spend way more time at SC to develop if he's going to. Oh well.

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Yeah. I think especially with the injuries it was ended up such a tough position for the dubs. When you are paying 6-7x penalty, how long can you keep a guy making $10m (paying $70m to keep him) but contributing nothing? And, pretty apparently from what occurred, that salary prevented (not from CBA but ownership ability/willingness to spend) keeping guys for lesser salary like GP2 who had shown to contribute. If he has never gotten injured, by year 3 now he might have been that positive contributor worth spending that much for. But, his injuries have really messed with his ability to develop, so he isn't really on the Warriors timeline anymore. But hopefully he is still on some positive timeline. Heck maybe he can return in free agency one day.

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Yeah, that's what he needed... but you can't tell the 3 Splashketeers, "Just wait another year! Maybe he'll be ready for spot minutes next year!" So he got sent to the G League team that plays against NBA teams.

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

Yes, the league has definitely caught up to Kerrball so the Dubs are doomed without a mobile big who can shoot, run, and defend. Yet the Dubs were dating Larry O'Brien less than 10 months ago. Let's see how much of a dinosaur the Dubs are once we get Wiggs back on the floor.

A whole team of Kumingas, even with a Steph and Dray sprinkled in, would turn the ball over 30 times a night and go 34/52 at the FT line while averaging 97 points a game and lose the rebounding battle decisively each night. Hard pass.

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We shall see with Wiggins hoping for the best.

The part about Kuminga was hyperbole, you wouldn’t be able to get 10 Kumingas no way. Haha. But I’m sure u get my gist. A whole team with athletic wing players is the future and is also the now.

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> Kerr doesn’t like playing bigs because he and the team changed the league by running small ball lineups that ran big men out the gym.

Kerr had no problem playing Bogut, Pachulia, West, or Looney though. Bjelica, McGee, Bell, and Speights got run too. I don't think the issue has been Kerr's reluctance to play big men as much as the organizational reluctance to get a quality backup big man in the Wiseman era.

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

I was thinking about all those big men we used to play when I was typing my post. Looney Is there for the bare minimum for sure. Yes we had Bjelica last year and he was used a decent amount. That was last year though, I say last year was near the end of a transition year for the league to assimilate into these athletic big wings teams. This year most to every team shaped their roster as such. Every year the roster transformation of teams are more apparent and this year it has really come to a head. Yes, Bjelica would be an upgrade over JMG for this season. He’d also be in the top 9 lineup to replace DDV if he was available next year and hasn’t lost a step. It’d be GP2 Poole Jk Bjelica.

I should’ve prefaced with “This Year you can tell Kerr doesn’t like to play bigs”. You can argue that the roster was just constructed poorly by Bob and isn’t Kerr doing but Bob did say not too long ago, im paraphrasing him here “What’s the point of getting a big man if Kerr won’t play them”.

For Example yesterday JMG could’ve been useful here and there but he didn’t get a minute of PT. JMG is a cone on the defensive end though.

I watched most of the games this season and I need some data to support what I want to say here but minutes for Big Men this season seem to be lower than seasons before whether by design of Kerr’s coaching or due to the fault of our poor roster construction.

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> This Year you can tell Kerr doesn’t like to play bigs

Yeah I think that's fair to say, Kerr would clearly rather play someone like Lamb at PF than JMG despite the size difference.

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Apr 4, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

Because Lamb has played better than JMG, especially on defense and when you consider he was a 2-way guy. Kerr is the same coach who played Zaza and Bogut when he had them. He also played rookie Wiseman - too much too soon but he played the big when he had one.

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I agree, I don't think Kerr made a mistake but it's clear he is choosing skill over size given the roster options.

As far as I'm concerned, Kerr would have played a backup center if there was a good option. I recall him saying something along the lines of "we looked small out there" before the trade deadline too.

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Yup That’s a good point!!

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No matter the size, if we don't hit threes.....

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No matter the threes, if we don't add size...

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Wiggins. Hope grows.

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"And for you, Andro Waggins, we give you the light of E1P, our most beloved star. May it be a light to you in dark places when all other lights go out...

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Regular Season: 5-Man Combinations

S. Curry | D. Green | K. Looney | K. Thompson | A. Wiggins

330:55 minutes played

+24.3 net points per 100 possessions

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Apr 3, 2023·edited Apr 4, 2023

Even the starting 5 has big differences between home and road. Their net rating at home is +34.0 and their net on the road is +8.6.

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Welp, guess on the road, they'll have to play the whole damn game, then.

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If you recall, it has often been the starters who coughed up leads in the 4th quarter on the road.

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Often the reserves gave up most of the lead the starters secured, and then yes the starters couldn’t win the game again.

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That's a fair assessment.

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In honour of his return... a little homage to Wiggs from The NBA Storyteller (if you didn't catch it 6 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBtGoMw33TI

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Apr 3, 2023Liked by punk basketball

👋 Long time no see, all. I went to Japan for a couple weeks at the start of February and I've been playing catch-up/avoiding spoilers since coming back. Took a lot longer than I thought to finally get up-to-date with how fast the games have been coming!

To summarize how I'm feeling on basketball things: I'm in an uneasy ground between worry and acceptance. Wiggins missing time has, in some ways, made it easier to excuse the Dubs underperforming, although when you think about how it's almost exclusively road/home splits it gets maddening again. GP2 being back has been a pleasure; in particular, I'm loving how the pressure he adds has turned out to be not redundant but actually complements DDV's. I'm disappointed Klay's toasty Jan/Feb mode couldn't last forever, nervous about every Draymond bump and fall, sad that we've probably seen Iguadala's last game already, relieved that Steph and many others on the team seem to be as near full health as you can be at this point in a basketball season, and hopeful that Wiggins won't need past the first round to get in game shape if he's indeed back.

The thing that makes me most concerned right now is that we are gonna need some road wins throughout the postseason, and those have been way too hard to come by so far. Oh yeah, and the Western conference standings are about as nerve-wrackingly volatile as putting your life savings in crypto, so that's... "fun".

It still feels possible for this team to win a championship, but realistically this is about the most "underdog" they've been going into the postseason in a long while. Hopefully that's a motivator that'll propel the Dubs to play up to the moment.

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It’s good to have you back. I’ve missed your insight and thorough posts. We’ve been flailing a bit and you’re pulling a Wiggins, coming back right when we need you most …

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Since we’re gonna go 12-0 at home, we only need one road win per series, which is only a 25% winning percentage. Easy-peasy.

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Yeah, it just takes a slightly over .500 record to win the championship and we have a just slightly over .500 record at the moment, so WGBC!

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I always guessed Abaddon was Hardee's other DNHQ handle... lol

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Sadly I have nowhere near Hardee’s swag.

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Very few of us have anywhere near Hardee's swag. There's a reason he's the gold-blooded king!

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The road performances have "felt" better lately... I think. Of course, we've only beaten the tanking Rockets and freefalling Mavs... but even this Denver loss felt like a better performance. I still have 100% faith that this Warriors team, when it comes down to a 7 game series, will get their defensive game-plan and execution/rotations in playoff mode and steal at least one game on the road. But... uhhhh... they may need to make their way through the play in to get there, and they will lose a home game at some point and end up having to win two road games... which will be tough.

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Apr 3, 2023·edited Apr 3, 2023

Gotta wonder why they didn't just say that it was a family related health issue... that's pretty much the only acceptable excuse anyway, it's kinda what everyone assumed, and it's totally understandable. Instead Wigg's GF had to go through the wringer for no reason... to each their own I suppose!

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Had this thought as well. I don't begrudge him for making the decision to keep it private, it's his to make, but I can't help but imagine if it were me I'd rather just say what it was than endure all the speculation and make my teammates keep a secret. Then again I also got the vaccine as soon as it was available so we clearly do not always think alike...

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Yeah. That doesn’t really make sense to me either. It’s kind of like maybe dad is taking one for the team. That said, it is the business of nobody here, certainly not mine, and I am just so happy Wiggs is back home with a team and fan base that loves him so much.

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Apr 3, 2023Liked by punk basketball

Sleepy Freud

7 hr ago

Man, I miss Wiggs. Today would be a good day for a return announcement.

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On the other hand, I said this yesterday and it didn't happen. Also said it Saturday ... and Friday and ...

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today it did!

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Good point. I'm now gonna use that system for playing the lottery. ;)

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good luck! when you win don't forget who was partially responsible!

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Wiggins?

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Welcome back Wiggs! Glad to have the help, I agree he won't solve everything, but man some of the commenters really don't seem to appreciate how much he contributes to making the whole thing work even if he isn't the peak playoffs 2022 version.

Also, if he can ramp up quickly enough to keep us in it, he'll be fresh for the later rounds.

Like last year, seems like the longer they can last, the better the team will be, so the first and second rounds might be a bigger danger than the WCF or finals. But, it also seems like there isn't that much separation 1 to 8, is there any team you can say yeah, those guys are the clear favs in the West? So, playing the Suns, Kings, or Grizz (ok, even Denver but hopefully we don't fall to eight) in the first round all have challenges but also limitations.

WGBC? WGBC! We Believe!

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Yeah... every single team feels like they're the team that everybody's overlooking.

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WIGGINS!

WIGGINS!

WIGGINS!

WIGGINS!!!

"Yeah hooooo! You're all clear, Steph. Now let's blow this thing and go home!"

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Sentiments exactly :)

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A New Hope.

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The Golden Empire Strikes Back!

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Klay's would-be game winner last night was almost a mirror image of the one he hit to put us ahead for good in Game 4 of the finals last year. After fifteen hours of angst, I'm at peace with that trade-off.

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