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Duby Dub Dubs with some perspective in a new post: https://dubnationhq.com/p/it-could-be-worse-no-really

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It's interesting that Steph is the kind of leader who doesn't really lead in these ways. He's not going to take some kind of stance on whom to trade or whom to play more or less; at least not publicly. I'm not saying good or bad, I'm saying that seems to be who he has been but he could do it differently.

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Jan 5·edited Jan 5

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1743333867191484670

Moses Moody’s camp is frustrated with his role in Golden State, per

@JDumasReports

“The people around Moses are frustrated with the lack of a role and consistency.”

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annddddddddddddddddddddd here's the disgruntled Moody news.

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Kerr told ESPN's Kendra Andrews that "there is a world where [Kuminga] can start for the rest of the year," as long as the third-year forward continues to play well and the team wins.

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Slater and Shams piece on Kuminga’s discontent: https://theathletic.com/5181608/2024/01/05/jonathan-kuminga-steve-kerr-warriors-lineup/

If you read closely, the only new news is that source(s) close to JK says Thursday was “the straw that broke the camel’s back.” No trade demands yet, but loss of faith.

1. Yes JK needed to play more. Kerr was wrong. OF COURSE JK should be mad after playing a good offensive game that he wasn’t on court for crunch time. Of course this is a loss of faith in Kerr, since he kept JK out and the team blew it.

2. I get it though. Kerr thought it was a blowout and he could sneak in some Wiggins-building time in semi-garbage time. Whether you think AW is a starter, a backup, or trade fodder, Wiggins-building is good. Absolutely everything had to go wrong for 6 minutes for Kerr to be wrong.

3. In general, I do think JK has been improving on offense a lot. His on-ball defense against non-bigs continues to excel, and his team defense is erratic but I think is improving. JK is clearly better than AW right now.

4. It might be that Shams/Slater are blowing something out of proportion. But @dogwild also reported separately sources said that JK was enraged. @dogwild is a Kerr hater but I believe it if he claims he has a source.

5. Having said all that… what is JK’s team’s endgame here with the public quotes? Clearly they want either Kerr to go all in on JK’s development (the quotes really don’t help) or have JK traded to another team (the quotes help in the sense that they will make Kerr and MJD angry and think he’s unprofessional and can’t function on this team, but they undercut any value GSW gets back which makes it less likely that JK gets traded). I think public silence is optimal here, no matter how unfairly Kerr treats JK.

6. If this was still a Bob Myers team, I’d expect GSW to just try to get through it and mature their way out of this. But since it’s a MDJ team, I don’t discount any shocking trades, not after the Poole/CP3/etc stunner in his first week.

7. Some kind of consolidation trade (like four quarters for a 50 cent piece) seems unavoidable at this point. Just be prepared to be mad at the return. What is Wiggins really going to get in return? I think JK, Podz and Trayce are the only ones with real trade value right now. I don’t see any game changers available coming back. You might like Markkanen or Siakam but their GMs are two of the biggest ripoff artists in the game.

8. If BP and Trayce weren’t replacement starter level right away, then probably Moody and JK would have had the minutes they need and want. Sometimes a blessing is also a curse.

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https://twitter.com/BrickMuse/status/1743142569620730324

This is just so bad here. Steph draws all of that attention and instead of putting pressure on the rim Wiggins just stands there in the corner. Good teams are either getting a wide open dunk there or an open CP3 3. WE ARE NOT MAKING TEAMS PAY FOR TRAPPING STEPH!!!!!!

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Jan 5·edited Jan 5

If you agree that the purpose of the Warrior organization is to be a soft and safe place for Klay Wiggins Draymond and Kerr to enjoy all their past glories and not be subject to criticism, then we don't think the same way. It's a sport.

Come on Kerr, get competitive. Get real with them. Risk offending Wiggins's fragile ego. Tell Draymond to be calm or not play. Tell Klay if he gets wild with his shot selection again, he's benched.

I'm not an advocate for a mean tone cigar chomping Vince Lombardi coach, but I also am not down with accepting vet failure as "they have fragile egos let's not offend them."

Forget trading Kuminga, Moody, or even Wiggins. What do you think would happen if we traded Kerr for Spoelstra right about now?

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Warriors aren't falling apart. They're playing too well to be falling apart. They're very close to being a good team, and have been all season.

They don't have a closing lineup they believe in, or anything to rely on down the stretch other than games where Steph is hot and hits some step backs. From that standpoint, Kerr is lost. He keeps seeking combos and figuring it out on the fly. It's not all his fault because there's not been a lot of consistency, but the grab bag approach is exacerbating the problem.

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There was a play in early 4th quarter where Peyton Watson grabbed a board, and no one stopped the ball and he dunked it. The worst offender was Wiggins, who was in front of him, but then gave a free runway to the basket. They called a TO right after and I assumed they'd put Kuminga in for him because it was such a soft play.

Kuminga should have played more last night. This is similar to the game they lost close where Moody should have played over Klay.

That said, if there's any truth to the Shams report, Kuminga needs to put a sock in it. Horrible timing. Not interested in "what's good for Jonathan now". vs "what's good for the team".

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The Siakam noise is heating up..... I don't think I want it to happen but it feels.... so.... imminent.

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I feel like Shams is overexaggerating what Slater is saying about JK losing faith in Kerr kind of like how Shams said that GP2 will be out for a while due to a tear in his muscles, but didn't specify the severity.

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“There’s a reason we didn’t hand them jobs to start the season. It doesn’t work that way. If you did that, you’d have a revolt. You have to honor the work that the veterans have done,” Kerr said two weeks ago about his decision not to play his young players straight out of training camp.

No, Steve. The fans and even the players choose to revolt or not based on one thing: are you winning? That's it. When the Dubs were winning a lot, we could throw Jordan Bell out there and call him the Next Big Big and ... whatever. But acting in fear of a veteran "revolt" is the sign of a leader who has given up his leadership.

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Slater is gonna be on 95.7 in the 11 o’clock hour to add more detail to this.

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I wonder if Kerr is seeing this as his last year of coaching (ever or at least for awhile) and wants to spend it running with his legacy guys for a “last dance” sake, whether it’s a winning season or not. I dunno. The change from when he first got to Golden State to where he seems to be now looks fairly drastic, so it’s like, how do you explain what’s looking like a flame out like this, ya know?

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I have a feeling this is going to quickly turn into a trade request

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The Golden State Warriors Are Falling Apart:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/1/5/24026439/golden-state-warriors-steve-kerr-steph-curry-nikola-jokic

Echoes a lot of the down sentiments here... really hoping the team can figure it out.

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I think Steve needs to join Klay and Draymond as far as evolving and accepting reality at this point in the run too. You have capable young guys on your roster glued to the bench. How about changing things up a little bit and getting them involved instead of stubbornly sticking to what you know. You work with what you have and play to their strengths. I feel like Steve is forcing what he has to work with what he's envisioning.

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