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How much is Mike Browns post game interview gonna cost him?

I like this.

In MY perfect world maybe the NBA gets out of bed with all the online betting as a result of the increasing pissed offedness of the coaches at crap officiating. (Not happening)

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

Or they just send him a tape of Sabonis throwing elbows into players' bodies and then flopping all season.

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Warrior players ESPN combined +/- stats. StatMuse +/- stats.

Curry +5.64 SM -49

Moody +2.25 SM -6

Saric+1.61 SM +38

CP3 +0.47. SM +85

Green +0.36. SM -47

GP2 +0.08. SM +28

Looney -0.43 SM -67

Klay -1.01. SM -54

Podz-1.03. SM +71

Kuminga. -1.24 SM +15

TDJ -1.38 SM +40

CoJo -2.79 SM

Wiggs -3.91. SM -189

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SM Saric, CP3, and duh duh duh dud duh …..TJD!

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Podz! SM +71

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Saric really stands out here with positive positives in both measures. Nice work MDJ 👌🏽

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I agree. Saric, or a similar player, fit the Kerr system.

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Why are they so different?

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I'm assuming the Espn stats are a combined offensive and defensive +-, where as the Statmuse stats are probably just defensive.

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

Both are offense + defense.

StatMuse’s numbers are just the raw cumulative on-court results from this season to date. The ESPN number you’re citing is “RPM” — their proprietary adjusted plus-minus metric that accounts for priors, quality of floormates, box score stats, etc etc. (and is per 100 possessions).

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which do you prefer?

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

Apples and oranges.

RPM is an attempt at a player “rating,” however flawed. Raw cumulative plus/minus is not that. It’s just what has happened to scoreboard this season to date with that player and nine other players on the floor.

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15Liked by Eric Apricot

The WILDEST Warriors Endings of the Last 10 Years | NBA: https://youtu.be/nm9cF2AXGmk?si=oRDhczPihI3QZUty

(Note: 20 endings and just shy of three hours long!)

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Just watched the first (so far). Snuffing out Durant/Westbrick OKC and basically condemning the franchise to purgatory until, who knows, maybe this year? After 2016 OKC got bounced 4 years running in the playoffs first round, then haven’t made the playoffs since then.

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Soo happy for detroit - they have BIG wise and now the Lions have WON a playoff game.

In all honesty, along with Steph Curry, one of my GOAT players was Barry Sanders! Very Happy for Detroit, especially since they beat an LA team!

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Oooh the Lions won. Maybe some extra happy for Draymond tomorrow.

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Rams with some questionable decisions. Had already burnt two timeouts early, but then didn't go for it on 4th down when Puka was making every big play, when you only have one timeout left? Oh well, SOSAR

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I'm curious about the analytics on that punt. I've seen coaches make that call multiple times over the years, and have never been a fan of it, even with timeouts. My gut has always said the extra play chance to keep a drive going is better than the realistically likely 20 yards lost vs. the punt if you don't make it. In a one point game, there's a concern about them getting into field goal range, but I don't like giving up control of the ball where you still have a play to run. The defense is just going to have to stop them if you fail, which it has to do anyway if you punt.

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Agreed and even if they got a field goal you could still win in one possession...I think it was absolutely the wrong call with only one timeout

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I was in St. Louis when Warner and Marshall were the "greatest show on turf". Loved them and they were special indeed. But after the RAMS moved to LA - I am NOT a FAN!

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"returned" to LA. But yeah it was sketchy how they ditched StL.

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#beatla 😅

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

Interesting, Sac has 15 game losing streak to the Bucks, so Fox has never beaten them.

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That's a long streak. What are the other longest active steaks?

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Huge buzzer beater for Lillard to win in OT. Sac must be deflated after that big Q4 comeback to tie, then to be iced by Lillard. Wow indeed!

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So it's Packers @49ers

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Yes, and it is next Saturday for all. Also, the packers team full of young and as-yet-to-face-failure players - a dangerous team.

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Malik Monk 0/2 FTs and Fox 1/2 FTs in the final seconds of OT. Lillard with the game-winning three. Wow.

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With Bucks missing Middleton and only getting 10m from Jackson…

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Grr, why did he take tonight off????

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Knee management

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He owned us yesterday. It’s like they know what they’re doing over there in Milwaukee.

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Thank you Bucks - for taking care of the Kings in overtime 143-142 !

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first person to hug dame - Giannis !

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Mike B ejected at what point of the game?

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Yeah, he went full Draymond there, had a few players holding him back.

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Everybody knows you never go full Dretard.

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with about 9:30 left in the 4th

https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=39310738

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Cool. Thanks.

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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1746729090206380432

Grizzlies say Desmond Bane has a Grade 3 left ankle sprain and will be re-evaluated in six weeks.

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

People were worried since we were going to have to play the ja grizzlies 4 times but now we’re going to get an weaker team than before ja came back

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oh boy - bad luck following this team around like a "black cat crossed the road"!

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They must have tugged on Superman's cape.

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One of the NBA’s many mysteries: De’Aaron Fox being lights out from mid-range but just .735 career from the stripe. Bit the Kings in the a** tonight.

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Wow didn't know he was that bad for his career

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well sometimes stats outfox our basic sensibilities :-)

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Wow…

Monk and Fox brick 3 of 4 FTs in OT with the game basically over, and Dame wins it with a 3 at the buzzer.

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Unbelievable that they didn't force someone other than Dame to take the shot. They would've had three guys preventing a Steph shot in that situation

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They only needed a two to tie it - collapsing on Dame could give them an easy dunk

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Rather take 2OT (against the team that played last night) than a buzzer beater from a killer shooter. Obviously don't want to give up an easy 2 but you could make two guys force someone else to beat you (and not every team has a Draymond that dices up the 4 on 3)

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I'm guessing the shot Dame took had about a 25% chance of success, meaning that you'll win the game 75% of the time and lose 25% of the time. If you put 2-3 guys on Dame, Bucks might have a 70% chance to tie with an easy two, and if you assume each team has an equal probability of winning in the 2nd OT period, that means you lose 35% of the time and win 35% of the time. By this logic, it's better to let Dame shoot and take your chances.

I think "Dame Time" is overhyped. In Portland, he made a lot of big shots, but he always had the ball in his hands and he missed a lot too. Too bad the Kings couldn't put Andre on him for a patented end-of-game strip.

Truth is, he's shooting 3s at 35% this year, and the one he made to beat the Kings was much tougher than average.

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Do you think they would've let Steph shoot that shot or would they have "made someone else beat you"? That was kinda my point, I don't think the kings let Steph take that shot

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

Giannis’ poor FT shooting is occasionally fairly problematic. Two missed FTs in the last 11 seconds just now with the the Kings intentionally fouling (9-14 for the game) and we have overtime.

#StephBetter

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He only missed one of four down the stretch of the 4th.

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Very OT, but I always feel like the world is a slightly better place when the Cowboys lose and I don't even watch much football. Next time somebody wants to call themselves "America's team" they should get the issue on the ballot in all 50 states.

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I was going to post that - next to the flakers losing a big game ,its the cowboys that I really love to see getting beat down.

That being said =- the young packers are what I would like the warriors to be !

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Yup. Thats me too.

Add to it, that two of the biggest assholes I had to interact with in college were diehard cowboys fan and dolphins fan. 25 years later when I hear about those teams losing I secretly grin knowing those two guys had a bad day.

Maybe its time to let go of it 😅

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> Maybe its time to let go of it 😅

Maybe not. Reconsider it in another 10 years.

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Well, then this should be an awesome world because the Cowboys got their rear ends handed to them. They got beaten so badly that the PTSD may last into the next generation of fans.

That said, the Cowboys didn't call themselves 'America's Team.' That was Bob Ryan and NFL Films.

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You maybe right but I remember Tricky Dick Nixon calling Dallas "America's Team."

It was a classic front runner move and he got booed for it.

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Of course they need to be competent.

Where I disagree with is when you blame the young guys who have actually been playing very competently and act as if the vets are playing great. The vets problem is not Podz, JK, Moody, TJD.

The vets problem is in the mirror when they look straight ahead.

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

I'm sorry, I think you are arguing against nobody. I have seen nobody arguing that the young guys were playing poorly or saying they were the problem. I'm sure there are exceptions, but the majority opinion was down on Wiggs, Klay and a fair amount on Loon. Trades need to include value so people proposing trades are including the young guys precisely because they are looking good.

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That’s fine but the post was directed to the person who said the young guys need to be traded to bring a level of competency to the team.

My opinion is that the trio of Steph, Klay and Draymond has always been surrounded by very good players and one superstar in KD. In 2022 Steph was awesome, Klay was no where close to elite and DG was even benched in the playoffs. My point is to think that bringing in LM or Siakm and losing all there best young guys is somehow enough to win a title this year is fantasy. In 2022 they had an explosive scorer in Poole, playoff Wigs who was their second best player,A very good and perfect fit Otto Porter and a healthy GP.

They also went against a level of competition due to injuries that was well below what they face today.

The trio is quite a bit below their prime and they need a STRONGER supporting cast than they did in the past to have any chance at all. The league is also the deepest and strongest it has ever been and much more adapted to defending the Warriors system as well. Remember when they had a big advantage shooting 3’s and revolutionized the game? Well the game has been revolutionized and their advantage is gone except for occasional hot nights.

Almost every team is a threat any night to go off from 3. That was not the case back when they began their run.

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

You are right Run_T . . . up to a point. For about 18 months its been OG's this and OG's that and "Get rid of the anchors" and "Moody is crap" and "JK has an attitude problem" and "Why won't the young guns shut up and accept Anthony Lamb is better than them." It took Kerr to get thoroughly exposed at the FIBA Championships, JK's agent to make a "Play him or trade him" demand, FOUR colossal meltdowns after getting 18 point leads, AND the NBA to tell the Dubs "ENOUGH WITH THE DRAY GOON ACT," for most people on here to open up to the possibility that maybe, JUST MAYBE, Steve Kerr is mismanaging this. And maybe, JUST MAYBE, the OG's need young guns to do some of the heavy lifting.

Its like anything--once you open yourself up to the evidence, then the facade of perfection shatters like glass. And once that happens then, yeah, people can say the YGs aren't the problem. But many are not fully grasping what this means--they are proposing to trade future success to try to save a sinking ship. They are looking backward, at what the OG's used to be able to do, instead of forward, at what the OGs could do if the coach was the kind of person to sell them on a supporting role instead of exacerbate the delusion that Klay can be #2 on a title team, Dray can lock down the defense for a 16+ playoff run, and Steph can run around like its 1999 and still make shots for the latter half of the season.

Once you fully break out of that delusion, you see a team that should be leaning on youth more and using the OGs for wiliness and wisdom. The OGs could be key parts of a title team and not necessarily cause locker room problems if the coach coached with the understanding that the torch needs to pass. Trading to restore past glory is a big mistake. And that's what one would be doing if they include the players with trade value--also known as the most productive players on the team--to try to augment the fading stars.

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Jan 15·edited Jan 15

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Just made a comment about the repeated reply-fails, then realized it had already been pointed out (and apologized for). No need to pile on.

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You might want to look into using the “Reply” feature if you choose to…ya know…reply to someone.

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Sorry.

I am old.😊

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