Well, most of my preseason predictions are already swirling round the toilet bowl (pretty impressive for less than one month into the season), but this one is holding up:
The regular season is actually going to matter this year. I think it would be hard for the team to miss the play-in tournament *if healthy*, but our core players are too old to count on that. If we miss substantial time from Steph, Wiggs, or Draymond, it's going to be very dicy.
I suspect that if BobGod is going to pull the trigger on a deal, he will not wait until the trade deadline. That might be too late. It takes a long time to absorb the system, and assuming we're looking for a big/center, I think it's even more complicated than for guards.
Plus, at this rate, the team is just going to wear down mentally. They need to pick up some easy wins, so it's not such a slog (or maybe that's me).
This may sound crazy, particularly a year after they traded away Haliburton, who apparently a lot of us want to nominate as a HWFL based solely on the fact that we wished he'd been drafted by our team - but this might Actually be the year the Kings get good. We know Mike Brown is a legit NBA coach; Fox might be figuring it out (his efficiency is Way up so far); Huerter and Keegan Murray are apparently hella good 3pt shooters, and with decent size; Sabonis is Quite tall and passes well; and Barnes is a perfectly acceptable NBA starter.
So I'm okay w/ losing a close one to this team on the road in November. Value possessions a little better (i.e. rein in a handful of bad passes and bad shots) and maybe they take this one.
It's game 13. It's going to be okay. The players who haven't been Warriors for that long will get better at being Warriors. The players who haven't been NBA players that long will get better at being NBA players. This progress can happen During The Season, and let me check basketball-reference.com yes confirmed, many players have historically improved with experience, so this is a reasonable thing to hope for.
We are Lucky, DNHQ Nation (what? It's not any worse than PIN number), to root for an organization--not just a team, an Organization--that (checks Internet again) is Good At This. I saw the GM on TV earlier this year; he was barefoot and drunk and sporting a pretty nice head of hair, and he was in a super good mood b/c the roster of basketball players he assembled had gotten to the NBA Finals (again), and also they had won the Finals (Again). He's good at his job. Coach Kerr--he coaches the team that we root for that goes to the Finals so often and usually wins them--is likewise good at his job. I feel like they've earned the benefit of the doubt.
I think we should make an effort to fret less frequently - like maybe on a monthly basis, rather than after every game. Let's all meet back here after the post-Thanksgiving Utah tilt and see how things are looking; maybe they'll have won another championship by then and all this concern will feel So Silly.
I saw in comments last year proposing a trade for myles turner. And you know what? I don’t think it’s a bad idea, we should give a look at what we got with Wiseman n Kuminga for another 10 games or so until at least a third of the way in. I’m thinking there’s already thoughts in the front office for some hypothetical deals. He is an expiring contract, however assuming we can get Turner’s bird’s rights would y’all make a trade of Wiseman and Kuminga and maybe filler for Myles Turner? Keep Moody for his 3 and D role player potential.
Starters: Steph, Poole, Wiggins, Green, Turner
Bench: DDV, Klay, Moody, JMG, Looney
Deep Reserves: Jerome, Iggy, Lamb, PBJ, Vet Center
Also Opens up a roster spot or two to fill it up with Lamb or Jerome, and have a roster spot available for the buyout market.
Long Term Outlook: Klay will have to accept a small haircut on his pay if he doesn’t show us his consistency of old. Turner and Moody won’t play out of our budget. Turner’s age fits well with Poole, Looney, and Wiggin’s timeline. Turner and Looney can hypothetically even start together if needed. We’d have a functional core for until Steph’s retirement. If Turner does resign with us if traded here.
In a team with Steph, I feel like whatever Turner can provide us is whatever we’d hope we can get from Wiseman anyways. Honestly Kuminga could either be a superstar or become another Eric Paschall, by trading we’d speed up the training process and get more certainty with what have. While also still build a future since I don’t believe Poole or Moody are at max potential yet.
Also I have no problem tanking for a couple of years post-Curry to rebuild the team into contention. Right now we are in the Fuck Around and Find Out Area of Wasting Steph’s Prime. Just ranting cuz our bench is wack af so maybe if our starting lineup gets a little better it’ll bleed into the bench rotations.
Pacer’s were in full tank mode before the season started, even though they’re decent right now, they aren’t going deep into the post season. With Wiseman and Kuminga they’ll have so many nice young pieces in the roster to develop.
The Kings played well. A couple less turnovers and a couple more made threes and the Warriors get their first road win. But since this is probably true of most losses in the NBA, better analysis requires deeper thought…. huh? hmmm.. nope…. Tonight the Kings were just the better team.
Anthony Lamb looked like a 2-way player out there. Felt like his defense (or lack thereof) was the cause of quite a few of the problems. And then he was playing crunch time. Very strange rotation to me. But the fact that you can't play JK, Moody, or Wise in any crunch time is the true issue.
I would have loved for DDV to look for his shot a bit more. He passed out of the middle a couple of times on some great penetration to players who were only swing men. Does he not have a nifty midrange? Still his vision and movement is top notch.
Steve Kerr says too many turnovers in the 2nd quarter and then some mental mistakes in the 3rd quarter caused problems for the Warriors. Kerr says he loved the effort from his team - Kerr says the Kings are well coached, they played better and deserved to win.
Thing is, this is how all sports movies go: former champ looks washed, loses confidence, hits bottom, but then gets shit together and overcomes odds in miraculous return to the top. Nothing to worry about. This is fine.
Anyhow, I’ll be over here curled into a fetal position and rocking myself to sleep in the dark.
Feel like we’re gonna need jmg to be a serviceable backup stretch five for our bench unit to be right, we are asking a lot of Poole to have the whole defense game planned against him and play with kuminga and looney at the same time. A good jmg at the five not only opens up pooled game but will get kuminga off the perimeter and back to his 20 per 36 60 TS self. This standing in the corner thing is not for him
Post game second guess thread: Kings put the Warriors away late
I am still shocked that kerr had all summer to gameplan and the best thing he came up with was kuminga jmg and wiseman playing together.
We have to turn it around quick or one injury and we are done
Well, most of my preseason predictions are already swirling round the toilet bowl (pretty impressive for less than one month into the season), but this one is holding up:
The regular season is actually going to matter this year. I think it would be hard for the team to miss the play-in tournament *if healthy*, but our core players are too old to count on that. If we miss substantial time from Steph, Wiggs, or Draymond, it's going to be very dicy.
I suspect that if BobGod is going to pull the trigger on a deal, he will not wait until the trade deadline. That might be too late. It takes a long time to absorb the system, and assuming we're looking for a big/center, I think it's even more complicated than for guards.
Plus, at this rate, the team is just going to wear down mentally. They need to pick up some easy wins, so it's not such a slog (or maybe that's me).
This may sound crazy, particularly a year after they traded away Haliburton, who apparently a lot of us want to nominate as a HWFL based solely on the fact that we wished he'd been drafted by our team - but this might Actually be the year the Kings get good. We know Mike Brown is a legit NBA coach; Fox might be figuring it out (his efficiency is Way up so far); Huerter and Keegan Murray are apparently hella good 3pt shooters, and with decent size; Sabonis is Quite tall and passes well; and Barnes is a perfectly acceptable NBA starter.
So I'm okay w/ losing a close one to this team on the road in November. Value possessions a little better (i.e. rein in a handful of bad passes and bad shots) and maybe they take this one.
It's game 13. It's going to be okay. The players who haven't been Warriors for that long will get better at being Warriors. The players who haven't been NBA players that long will get better at being NBA players. This progress can happen During The Season, and let me check basketball-reference.com yes confirmed, many players have historically improved with experience, so this is a reasonable thing to hope for.
We are Lucky, DNHQ Nation (what? It's not any worse than PIN number), to root for an organization--not just a team, an Organization--that (checks Internet again) is Good At This. I saw the GM on TV earlier this year; he was barefoot and drunk and sporting a pretty nice head of hair, and he was in a super good mood b/c the roster of basketball players he assembled had gotten to the NBA Finals (again), and also they had won the Finals (Again). He's good at his job. Coach Kerr--he coaches the team that we root for that goes to the Finals so often and usually wins them--is likewise good at his job. I feel like they've earned the benefit of the doubt.
I think we should make an effort to fret less frequently - like maybe on a monthly basis, rather than after every game. Let's all meet back here after the post-Thanksgiving Utah tilt and see how things are looking; maybe they'll have won another championship by then and all this concern will feel So Silly.
So that Sabonis trade is looking real good.
Klay, though looking like his old self at times is also looking like the weak point in the starting rotation.
No real consistent outside threats besides Curry. This is what we're going to see night in and out.
I saw in comments last year proposing a trade for myles turner. And you know what? I don’t think it’s a bad idea, we should give a look at what we got with Wiseman n Kuminga for another 10 games or so until at least a third of the way in. I’m thinking there’s already thoughts in the front office for some hypothetical deals. He is an expiring contract, however assuming we can get Turner’s bird’s rights would y’all make a trade of Wiseman and Kuminga and maybe filler for Myles Turner? Keep Moody for his 3 and D role player potential.
Starters: Steph, Poole, Wiggins, Green, Turner
Bench: DDV, Klay, Moody, JMG, Looney
Deep Reserves: Jerome, Iggy, Lamb, PBJ, Vet Center
Also Opens up a roster spot or two to fill it up with Lamb or Jerome, and have a roster spot available for the buyout market.
Long Term Outlook: Klay will have to accept a small haircut on his pay if he doesn’t show us his consistency of old. Turner and Moody won’t play out of our budget. Turner’s age fits well with Poole, Looney, and Wiggin’s timeline. Turner and Looney can hypothetically even start together if needed. We’d have a functional core for until Steph’s retirement. If Turner does resign with us if traded here.
In a team with Steph, I feel like whatever Turner can provide us is whatever we’d hope we can get from Wiseman anyways. Honestly Kuminga could either be a superstar or become another Eric Paschall, by trading we’d speed up the training process and get more certainty with what have. While also still build a future since I don’t believe Poole or Moody are at max potential yet.
Also I have no problem tanking for a couple of years post-Curry to rebuild the team into contention. Right now we are in the Fuck Around and Find Out Area of Wasting Steph’s Prime. Just ranting cuz our bench is wack af so maybe if our starting lineup gets a little better it’ll bleed into the bench rotations.
Pacer’s were in full tank mode before the season started, even though they’re decent right now, they aren’t going deep into the post season. With Wiseman and Kuminga they’ll have so many nice young pieces in the roster to develop.
The Kings played well. A couple less turnovers and a couple more made threes and the Warriors get their first road win. But since this is probably true of most losses in the NBA, better analysis requires deeper thought…. huh? hmmm.. nope…. Tonight the Kings were just the better team.
Have other teams gotten faster? Seems like everyone is playing as fast as us.
Anthony Lamb looked like a 2-way player out there. Felt like his defense (or lack thereof) was the cause of quite a few of the problems. And then he was playing crunch time. Very strange rotation to me. But the fact that you can't play JK, Moody, or Wise in any crunch time is the true issue.
Klay is sinking closer and closer to role player. All of my fingers are still crossed, however.
For such a hard worker, Poole does not look a bit disciplined on O or D. WTF
I would have loved for DDV to look for his shot a bit more. He passed out of the middle a couple of times on some great penetration to players who were only swing men. Does he not have a nifty midrange? Still his vision and movement is top notch.
Did not really see the game but those Kuminga minutes look very empty in the box score. I think they should try out the other Green some more.
https://twitter.com/KylenMills/status/1592015687740174336
Steve Kerr says too many turnovers in the 2nd quarter and then some mental mistakes in the 3rd quarter caused problems for the Warriors. Kerr says he loved the effort from his team - Kerr says the Kings are well coached, they played better and deserved to win.
0-7 road for Dubs ties Pistons for road futility. Only LoLakers, at 0-5, have a prayer of matching them...
Thing is, this is how all sports movies go: former champ looks washed, loses confidence, hits bottom, but then gets shit together and overcomes odds in miraculous return to the top. Nothing to worry about. This is fine.
Anyhow, I’ll be over here curled into a fetal position and rocking myself to sleep in the dark.
Feel like we’re gonna need jmg to be a serviceable backup stretch five for our bench unit to be right, we are asking a lot of Poole to have the whole defense game planned against him and play with kuminga and looney at the same time. A good jmg at the five not only opens up pooled game but will get kuminga off the perimeter and back to his 20 per 36 60 TS self. This standing in the corner thing is not for him