Some perspective. LeBron James has never been shy about leveraging his talent against an organization's future assets. In his illustrious career, he has left 3 teams, Cleveland twice and Miami once. After using a time machine to suck assets from the future to play with him in the now, here are how his teams performed after he left the cupboards bare.
CLE (1st time) averaged 23-59 for three seasons
MIA averaged 42-40 for 3 years
CLE (2nd time) averaged 22-60 for 3 years
In Miami's case, they had Bosh, Wade, Spo & Riley. Even then, they were reduced to a .500 team.
But having to average 22-23 wins a year for 3 years ain't fun. And anyone who is a real Warriors fan knows that. In an age marked by selfishness & greed that extends beyond all imagination, it is very refreshing to see 3 guys who have had more than their fair share of the pie, push themselves back away from the feasting table. Sure, if they can get a crack at another slice, they will have at it. But they are not willing to throw furniture, knock people over or engage in some Jerry Springer-like emotional fit to get it.
Yeah, been saying for some time that I was a fan of the team long before the “golden years” and I’ll be one after. Going through years of prolonged hopelessness would not be worth a microscopically improved chance at a title for the next couple of years because we gave away all our young talent (JK, Podz, Gui?) and potential lotto picks.
I think that’s all Lacob really means with the two timelines thing.
These quotes from Steph and Draymond about preserving assets for the organization's future... tbh, I'm a little disappointed. Do not go gentle into that good night, gentlemen! Old age should rave and burn...
Do not go gentle into that good night … but this is not that good night, lol. It’s just the latter stages of the first chapter in their long careers. I’m not even *that* old (crotchety Gen-Xer, Carter was my first Prez) and both of them could be my kids.
I for one appreciate their equanimity and perspective. If they didn’t have four rings apiece I might feel differently.
Agreed. The 4 rings and the good times we had over the past decade are plenty for me. It'll hold me over while the franchise figures out how to reset. I appreciate the honesty and self-awareness from the big 3.
I don't like how the season has gone, but I've gotten OK with the current decline. It's inevitable after whiffing on the 2nd overall pick (and the other two lottery picks, but I won't get into that again).
As others have said here, as well as Uncle Alc, it could be to put them in a non-desperate bargaining position. It could also mean they know a quick fix isn’t out there.
Yeah. Personally, I don’t think they’re acting. They seem far more invested in the Warriors as an organization than LeBron has for any team he’s been on, even his hometown team.
I think it’s a combination of loyalty after being with one team for so long and natural proclivity.
About our young core, I still firmly believe Kuminga will be a perennial all star and Podz and Moody two solid NBA starters in their careers. Future Is not dark. I Believe
There are nine teams with a worse record than the Warriors, and 7 of them are 5 or more games behind in the loss column. They likely won't be able to out-tank those 7 unless Steph basically sits the rest of the season.
At their current spot (10th worst record), their chance at the top pick is 3%. If they 'rise' to 8th worst record, that doubles to 6%. If some other team out-tanks them and they end up with losing in the play-in and have the 14th worst record, their chance at the top pick is just half a percent.
I know that the Warriors are going to win the championship, to in fact be championship. But *just in case* in the extremely unlikely event that they do not, is it OK for me to have a backup team to root for? Do you ever do that? Is it allowed?
If I had to pick one, I would choose Cleveland. They play great basketball and I like Atkinson. Don’t really have any feeling either way for the players.
My second choice is Denver just because of Joker. There are a teenagers out there that are about 5-10 with exceptional skills but lacking the quickness,speed and jumping ability to make it beyond high school. If only I was 7 feet tall with these same skills…….Yea guilty, only I use to say 6-5 😊 It is so cool to see Joker dominate the world as a second round pick because he wasn’t a guy with a big vertical and the other usual physical stuff.
I think you can root for other teams under certain conditions. Wemby and Pops are OK. Jokic and Giannis are mostly cool. Doc Rivers, Harden and Taylor Jerkins are not.
It's a minor league but there are a few good teams you could root for. I would avoid the team in New England but the one on Lake Erie is worth considering.
Every year, some team gets Russell Westbrook, he does a few impressive things, and everyone goes "OH MY GOD HE'S A NEW MAN NOW THE LEAGUE IS IN TROUBLE."
Career percentages are: 43-30-77. Shooting 31% from three for the Nuggets. Hey Nuggets, you want to believe that Jokic can renew anyone, I get it. But: Russ. Cain't. Shoot.
I watched a video showing why he’s more efficient with Denver. After I made the above post. Basically he’s doing a lot less of the stupid stuff he’s always done, and a lot more of the stuff he should’ve been doing. Not hoisting stupid threes, but instead of cutting to the basket and Jokić is feeding him right there.
If Steph and Dray are going to ride this out until the end without any other moves being made then I want to see them have some fun. I can't stomach Draymond hopelessly looking for Steph while he's being circled by 3 defenders anymore. I want to see Steph shooting left handed 3s with his eyes closed. Draymond shooting fadeaways. Let's lose in style baby. I don't want to see .500 basketball anymore.
You read my mind. If I was Kerr, I would tell the team to forget about winning and to go out there and entertain the fans. Hit us with some razzle-dazzle. They have to remember that this is a game and something they should love doing. Have some freakin' fun. They seem to have lost that.
We are too obsessed with the results at the expense of the process. You can win games in which you played terribly and you can lose games in which you played great. We need to start finding more wins in "the process" and let the world worry about the results.
Trade both those guys while they still have value. I know, I'm a mean old grinch who hates rainbows and unicorns, but that's the Dubs' best chance of becoming relevant again soon.
I'd rather see Steph play for the Warriors than the Warriors trade Steph to become relevant. I was a lukewarm fan of basketball and the Warriors before Steph. Steph made them relevant.
I'm a long term warrior fan. From the JaRich/Dampier dunk days (just missed the Sprewel drama). I used to look up at the standings and hope my 30-40 team will somehow win 9 out of the next 12 games to make the playoffs.
Yes, Steph made them relevant. I'm grateful. But he won't make them relevant again. Steph also made me hunger for more. So trade him to a team where he can win a couple of more chips...I will even root for that team (so that Steph climbs up the Goat ladder).
Let's use the picks and young players to be relevant..and dare I dream, even more
"So trade him to a team where he can win a couple of more chips." You mean trade him to a team where he might win another chip if the team isn't gutted in the trade and if everything goes well and if he stays healthy and if his skills don't deteriorate too quickly as he ages and if he wants to go where we are able to make a deal that the Dubs FO thinks helps us too. Lots of ifs.
I mean I'm not a stranger to this way of thinking but where is this going? A four-year retirement tour, lots of applause in away games, then old-guy injuries. And the team sports a 33-win season year, in year out? Is that really honoring the guy?
would you say there is no realistic chance that what I'm describing is likely? I will accept being called negative all I am doing is just random unrealistic negativism based on some vague hostility.
I think that the front office will make some moves, and the coaches will make some adjustments, and the vets will gradually diminish and the kids will gradually ascend and we'll see what comes of it all.
Not sure how they could trade his salary, and how they could get four good picks right now, no guarantees that way, would take some years, might waste Kuminga's prime...
Last year, I argued for trading Klay Thompson for Zach LaVine, seeing it as one of our last chances to land a game-changer. With Klay’s expiring contract, the Bulls would have likely been open to it. Fast forward to today—no Klay, and Zach is averaging 24 points on 52% shooting and 43% from three. It sure would’ve been nice to have him.
I’m not saying “I told you so,” but the point stands: staying put can be as costly as making the wrong move. By not trading Curry or Draymond while they still have value, we risk missing future opportunities. Not acting now sets us up for diminishing returns in assets and draft capital.
Whether we like it or not, a rebuild is coming. The question is whether we want to go through it with the draft capital Curry and Draymond gave us, or hold on out of sentimentality.
Personally, life’s too short to watch my team linger at the bottom. Curry and Draymond will be fine—they’ll get over it. Getting traded late in your career isn’t a setback; it happens all the time and doesn’t diminish legacies. Klay leaving in free agency didn’t hurt his, so why would this be any different?
Trading now maximizes our chances for a quicker rebuild—like the Cavs after LeBron or OKC post-Westbrook and PG. A rebuild is inevitable, so let’s set ourselves up to emerge stronger.
Never trade Curry unless he demands it. He is Michelangelo with a basketball. He is a magician. He loves it here. We love him here. And he is no mere great player. If he were, then I could see doing what you suggest as practical. But he is written into the fabric of modern basketball and bay area culture. So, no.
A trade wouldn't erase his legacy. He would remain a basketball maestro, a living legend, woven into the very fabric of modern basketball and Bay Area culture, beloved by fans and etched in time.
Look to Pippen, traded from the Bulls but forever revered. Garnett, traded from the Celtics, yet his impact endures, unshaken. Shaq, moved from the Lakers, but his greatness remains an indelible part of that franchise’s story. If Curry is traded, his legacy will live on, as permanent as the rings he earned.
The only difference is this: we have the chance to preserve the championship organization he helped build, ensuring it doesn't fade into mediocrity. Rather than a fleeting, brilliant Bulls-style dynasty, we could craft a Lakers-like legacy, one that stretches across decades. Curry’s last hurrah would not be struggling to lift a flawed roster, but rather he would be the foundation upon which a future of sustained greatness is built.
If we trade Steph that guarantees him nothing. He could go to a team that falls short even with him, and that team has to give us a lot to get him. He has already painted the Sistine Chapel and carved the David and the Pietà. If he wants to go, accommodate him. Otherwise, let him retire here. I'm pretty sure that's what the Dubs will do - leave it to Steph. I hope he stays. I don't give a flip about what we could get for him.
Yep, that's the bottom line. I want to see Steph in a Dub uniform for every game he plays until he retires. That means more to me than what we could get in a trade.
Besides, Steph would only accept a trade to a team where he wants to go, and for that team to come up with $62M in players we'd want (and picks) seems pretty unlikely. A team with a shot at a title is not too likely to trade off all their young talent for Steph. So who is making this deal with us?
Oh i wish you woulda seen me on GSOM when i lost my mind when we chose Evans. Im proud to say i did the same for Wiseman but did not feel as devastated as when we chose JK over Davion Mitchell 😊
Athletic Alchemy, who isn’t a hot-take artist, has a new video that’s pretty heavy-handed: https://youtu.be/JIAQe25nMc8?si=NH6rbrOwAEhKKU8B
* Kerr sound broken
* He’s done with Buddy
* Moody is a nice guy, but just isn’t very good,nand TJD isn’t anything special
* Go ahead and trade Draymond
* JK and Podz are the two guys worth building around.
I can’t say I disagree with any of his points, although I’m feeling a little Guiddy about Santos
It's been an absolutely brutal year for Steve Kerr. If he's been a bit broken by it, I can hardly blame him.
Man up and do what you get paid millions of dollars to do
Lmfao. So reactionary
If were hanging our future on JK it's going to be a long decade.
Agreed, hence the need to trade Curry/Draymond. Get that sweet sweet draft capital and go full rebuild mode!!
Some perspective. LeBron James has never been shy about leveraging his talent against an organization's future assets. In his illustrious career, he has left 3 teams, Cleveland twice and Miami once. After using a time machine to suck assets from the future to play with him in the now, here are how his teams performed after he left the cupboards bare.
CLE (1st time) averaged 23-59 for three seasons
MIA averaged 42-40 for 3 years
CLE (2nd time) averaged 22-60 for 3 years
In Miami's case, they had Bosh, Wade, Spo & Riley. Even then, they were reduced to a .500 team.
But having to average 22-23 wins a year for 3 years ain't fun. And anyone who is a real Warriors fan knows that. In an age marked by selfishness & greed that extends beyond all imagination, it is very refreshing to see 3 guys who have had more than their fair share of the pie, push themselves back away from the feasting table. Sure, if they can get a crack at another slice, they will have at it. But they are not willing to throw furniture, knock people over or engage in some Jerry Springer-like emotional fit to get it.
I dare say, "Bravo, gentlemen!"
Yeah, been saying for some time that I was a fan of the team long before the “golden years” and I’ll be one after. Going through years of prolonged hopelessness would not be worth a microscopically improved chance at a title for the next couple of years because we gave away all our young talent (JK, Podz, Gui?) and potential lotto picks.
I think that’s all Lacob really means with the two timelines thing.
These quotes from Steph and Draymond about preserving assets for the organization's future... tbh, I'm a little disappointed. Do not go gentle into that good night, gentlemen! Old age should rave and burn...
Do not go gentle into that good night … but this is not that good night, lol. It’s just the latter stages of the first chapter in their long careers. I’m not even *that* old (crotchety Gen-Xer, Carter was my first Prez) and both of them could be my kids.
I for one appreciate their equanimity and perspective. If they didn’t have four rings apiece I might feel differently.
Agreed. The 4 rings and the good times we had over the past decade are plenty for me. It'll hold me over while the franchise figures out how to reset. I appreciate the honesty and self-awareness from the big 3.
I don't like how the season has gone, but I've gotten OK with the current decline. It's inevitable after whiffing on the 2nd overall pick (and the other two lottery picks, but I won't get into that again).
Yeah, the four rings definitely help :)
As others have said here, as well as Uncle Alc, it could be to put them in a non-desperate bargaining position. It could also mean they know a quick fix isn’t out there.
If they were acting, they could make more money in Hollywood. lol
Yeah. Personally, I don’t think they’re acting. They seem far more invested in the Warriors as an organization than LeBron has for any team he’s been on, even his hometown team.
I think it’s a combination of loyalty after being with one team for so long and natural proclivity.
Nuggets blow out the Mavs 118-99
About our young core, I still firmly believe Kuminga will be a perennial all star and Podz and Moody two solid NBA starters in their careers. Future Is not dark. I Believe
Cooper Flagg will be nice alongside JK
He might be. Five years ago Zion was widely considered to be the best prospect since LeBron; now when I type his name on here, people wretch.
There are nine teams with a worse record than the Warriors, and 7 of them are 5 or more games behind in the loss column. They likely won't be able to out-tank those 7 unless Steph basically sits the rest of the season.
At their current spot (10th worst record), their chance at the top pick is 3%. If they 'rise' to 8th worst record, that doubles to 6%. If some other team out-tanks them and they end up with losing in the play-in and have the 14th worst record, their chance at the top pick is just half a percent.
https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds
Steph with fluid in his knees can sit the rest of the season. He probably should.
So it can happen
And how do we propose to engineer that one?
Especially given that the FBI frowns on kidnapping (and across state lines at that). Of course that assumes there still will be an FBI.
I know that the Warriors are going to win the championship, to in fact be championship. But *just in case* in the extremely unlikely event that they do not, is it OK for me to have a backup team to root for? Do you ever do that? Is it allowed?
If I had to pick one, I would choose Cleveland. They play great basketball and I like Atkinson. Don’t really have any feeling either way for the players.
My second choice is Denver just because of Joker. There are a teenagers out there that are about 5-10 with exceptional skills but lacking the quickness,speed and jumping ability to make it beyond high school. If only I was 7 feet tall with these same skills…….Yea guilty, only I use to say 6-5 😊 It is so cool to see Joker dominate the world as a second round pick because he wasn’t a guy with a big vertical and the other usual physical stuff.
I think you can root for other teams under certain conditions. Wemby and Pops are OK. Jokic and Giannis are mostly cool. Doc Rivers, Harden and Taylor Jerkins are not.
I root for players, including exactly the three you named in particular.
teams not really.
i do root against Harden. Coaches I don't care about.
This is rough. I want to root for klay but Dallas isn't compelling to me. Probably cause kyrie just feels like an enemy.
Orlando or kings could be cool but they are not good enough. I think I'm just just a hater of all other teams at the end of the day.
Sure, as long as the other team does not play in the NBA.
Does the Eastern Conference count as "not in the NBA"? 😆
The what conference? I'm intrigued. tell me more
It's a minor league but there are a few good teams you could root for. I would avoid the team in New England but the one on Lake Erie is worth considering.
Every year, some team gets Russell Westbrook, he does a few impressive things, and everyone goes "OH MY GOD HE'S A NEW MAN NOW THE LEAGUE IS IN TROUBLE."
Career percentages are: 43-30-77. Shooting 31% from three for the Nuggets. Hey Nuggets, you want to believe that Jokic can renew anyone, I get it. But: Russ. Cain't. Shoot.
47% from the corner, believe it or not.
I watched a video showing why he’s more efficient with Denver. After I made the above post. Basically he’s doing a lot less of the stupid stuff he’s always done, and a lot more of the stuff he should’ve been doing. Not hoisting stupid threes, but instead of cutting to the basket and Jokić is feeding him right there.
He is like a dream version offensively of GPII.
If Steph and Dray are going to ride this out until the end without any other moves being made then I want to see them have some fun. I can't stomach Draymond hopelessly looking for Steph while he's being circled by 3 defenders anymore. I want to see Steph shooting left handed 3s with his eyes closed. Draymond shooting fadeaways. Let's lose in style baby. I don't want to see .500 basketball anymore.
You read my mind. If I was Kerr, I would tell the team to forget about winning and to go out there and entertain the fans. Hit us with some razzle-dazzle. They have to remember that this is a game and something they should love doing. Have some freakin' fun. They seem to have lost that.
We are too obsessed with the results at the expense of the process. You can win games in which you played terribly and you can lose games in which you played great. We need to start finding more wins in "the process" and let the world worry about the results.
Trade both those guys while they still have value. I know, I'm a mean old grinch who hates rainbows and unicorns, but that's the Dubs' best chance of becoming relevant again soon.
I'd rather see Steph play for the Warriors than the Warriors trade Steph to become relevant. I was a lukewarm fan of basketball and the Warriors before Steph. Steph made them relevant.
I'm a long term warrior fan. From the JaRich/Dampier dunk days (just missed the Sprewel drama). I used to look up at the standings and hope my 30-40 team will somehow win 9 out of the next 12 games to make the playoffs.
Yes, Steph made them relevant. I'm grateful. But he won't make them relevant again. Steph also made me hunger for more. So trade him to a team where he can win a couple of more chips...I will even root for that team (so that Steph climbs up the Goat ladder).
Let's use the picks and young players to be relevant..and dare I dream, even more
"So trade him to a team where he can win a couple of more chips." You mean trade him to a team where he might win another chip if the team isn't gutted in the trade and if everything goes well and if he stays healthy and if his skills don't deteriorate too quickly as he ages and if he wants to go where we are able to make a deal that the Dubs FO thinks helps us too. Lots of ifs.
Good point about gutting the other team. Hopefully we can find a reasonable compromise.
Call me selfish. But if the choice is between Steph winning another chip and the warriors getting a shot at another, I'd pick the latter.
I mean I'm not a stranger to this way of thinking but where is this going? A four-year retirement tour, lots of applause in away games, then old-guy injuries. And the team sports a 33-win season year, in year out? Is that really honoring the guy?
Nice negative fantasizing you're doing. I'd prefer to see things play out.
would you say there is no realistic chance that what I'm describing is likely? I will accept being called negative all I am doing is just random unrealistic negativism based on some vague hostility.
But it's not. I prefer to call it realism.
I think that the front office will make some moves, and the coaches will make some adjustments, and the vets will gradually diminish and the kids will gradually ascend and we'll see what comes of it all.
Build a team with the draft is what got the Warriors their championships and I think usually the best approach...
Not rainbows and unicorns for me but I do think basketball players just want to have fun... Believe in Strength in Joy!
Totally agree so trade Steph for four picks and some young dudes
Not sure how they could trade his salary, and how they could get four good picks right now, no guarantees that way, would take some years, might waste Kuminga's prime...
Wait for OKC to lose the champioinship. They will need a veteran shooter. They have young talent and picks
Young talent making $62.6M/year (Steph's salary next season). That's a lot of young talent. Who's going to make that deal?
Reducing Steph to "a veteran shooter." Yeah no.
Bucks beat the Kings 130-115.
Kings finally lose!
Kings had no Monk but had Fox. Maybe Monk is a better fit for the Kings than Fox.
Hawks beat the Suns 122-117
Last year, I argued for trading Klay Thompson for Zach LaVine, seeing it as one of our last chances to land a game-changer. With Klay’s expiring contract, the Bulls would have likely been open to it. Fast forward to today—no Klay, and Zach is averaging 24 points on 52% shooting and 43% from three. It sure would’ve been nice to have him.
I’m not saying “I told you so,” but the point stands: staying put can be as costly as making the wrong move. By not trading Curry or Draymond while they still have value, we risk missing future opportunities. Not acting now sets us up for diminishing returns in assets and draft capital.
Whether we like it or not, a rebuild is coming. The question is whether we want to go through it with the draft capital Curry and Draymond gave us, or hold on out of sentimentality.
Personally, life’s too short to watch my team linger at the bottom. Curry and Draymond will be fine—they’ll get over it. Getting traded late in your career isn’t a setback; it happens all the time and doesn’t diminish legacies. Klay leaving in free agency didn’t hurt his, so why would this be any different?
Trading now maximizes our chances for a quicker rebuild—like the Cavs after LeBron or OKC post-Westbrook and PG. A rebuild is inevitable, so let’s set ourselves up to emerge stronger.
Here are 129 million reasons not to make that deal:
2024/25 $43,031,940
2025/26 $45,999,660
2026/27 $48,967,380
The new cba sure does make it harder to pull off big trades. If not for the new cba, I bet we would be screaming at lacob to just pay the tax 😂
Honestly I was pretty on board with Lavine during the time when we had CP3's expiring to work with
Never trade Curry unless he demands it. He is Michelangelo with a basketball. He is a magician. He loves it here. We love him here. And he is no mere great player. If he were, then I could see doing what you suggest as practical. But he is written into the fabric of modern basketball and bay area culture. So, no.
A trade wouldn't erase his legacy. He would remain a basketball maestro, a living legend, woven into the very fabric of modern basketball and Bay Area culture, beloved by fans and etched in time.
Look to Pippen, traded from the Bulls but forever revered. Garnett, traded from the Celtics, yet his impact endures, unshaken. Shaq, moved from the Lakers, but his greatness remains an indelible part of that franchise’s story. If Curry is traded, his legacy will live on, as permanent as the rings he earned.
The only difference is this: we have the chance to preserve the championship organization he helped build, ensuring it doesn't fade into mediocrity. Rather than a fleeting, brilliant Bulls-style dynasty, we could craft a Lakers-like legacy, one that stretches across decades. Curry’s last hurrah would not be struggling to lift a flawed roster, but rather he would be the foundation upon which a future of sustained greatness is built.
Trade him. He'll still be Michelangelo, but with a chance to paint the Sistine Chapel instead of laboring in a workshop.
If we trade Steph that guarantees him nothing. He could go to a team that falls short even with him, and that team has to give us a lot to get him. He has already painted the Sistine Chapel and carved the David and the Pietà. If he wants to go, accommodate him. Otherwise, let him retire here. I'm pretty sure that's what the Dubs will do - leave it to Steph. I hope he stays. I don't give a flip about what we could get for him.
Why don't you give a flip about what we could get for him?
Because we couldn't get Steph.
Yep, that's the bottom line. I want to see Steph in a Dub uniform for every game he plays until he retires. That means more to me than what we could get in a trade.
Besides, Steph would only accept a trade to a team where he wants to go, and for that team to come up with $62M in players we'd want (and picks) seems pretty unlikely. A team with a shot at a title is not too likely to trade off all their young talent for Steph. So who is making this deal with us?
As much as we knock Bob Myers for his overall drafting i was looking at that 2015 draft and in a hypothetical redraft this is my order:
1). KAT, 2). Devin Booker, 3). porzingis. 4). Myles Turner. 5). Norman powell. 6). Bobby Portis 7). Tyus Jones. 8). Terry Rozier. 9). Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. 10) Trey Lyles. 11). Kevon Looney. HM: Oubre, Nance
Point is that Looney has been solid and besides Nance, thr only remaining player thst was drafted late first round still playing.
And drafting Melton in 2018 instead of Evans.
Oh i wish you woulda seen me on GSOM when i lost my mind when we chose Evans. Im proud to say i did the same for Wiseman but did not feel as devastated as when we chose JK over Davion Mitchell 😊
I didn't even know who Evans was when we drafted him. I still don't know, even though I've seen him play. He's nobody.
I literally don't know which first name Evans we're talking about
Jacob.
Kings with Fox and without Monk is getting blown out by the Bucks. Maybe Monk is a better fit for the Kings than Fox.
Things I would like to see:
1) Quinten Post given some extended run
2) Buddy given an extended look in the 2 spot in the starting rotation
3) Kuminga and Wiggins held on to
Beyond that, I'll take my medicine. I wouldn't be averse to trading Dray, and while I like Moody, it would be nice to see him given a shot elsewhere.
Buddy an extended look would be great for the tank
I'd like for the Warriors to trade Moody in the upcoming offseason when the extension kicks in.
Imagine if they did this ad with LeBron/Cleveland during the Heatles era or Warriors KD and OKC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQvG0WQkpU
I love the Warriors. We'll get through this not-nearly-as-bad-as-people-think stretch of mediocrity.
You mean in 5 years right
I'm gonna go against the grain and not prognosticate.