Out of the available options, Javonte Green seems like the clear favorite to me.
Green has demonstrated to be highly effective as a role player with good versatile defense (can guard SG/SF/PF) and can hit threes efficiently on a limited basis. His +/- per 100 possessions have consistently been very positive throughout his career and he's spent his time in the NBA on teams who were trying to win (important for me in a role player on a championship team).
My one major criticism would be that he has a low assist % which might be indicative of being a bad passer, a big no no in our system.
I'm inclined to bring JaVale back if the Mavericks really do waive him. He can still rebound and block the occasional shot even if he doesn't offer much on offense beyond throwing down lobs. If the Warriors have LQ on a 2-way, how much backup do they need for Moody and Kuminga given that they are already backups?
I agree. We need an experienced big who can do what Javale does in limited minutes without any complaints about PT. He slots right into our system without a learning curve and earns the respect that comes from officials/coaches/players as a long-time vet in the league with three rings. Relying instead on some raw young big in one of the two-way spots (e.g. a Jayce Johnson) to fill this role is not going to cut it when we need to slow down Jokic, Davis, etc. Would like to see JTA back for the end of the bench too as others have said, but that 15th spot is staying open and I'd rather have a true center rostered by the time the season gets underway.
Last time I counted, Jayce still gets six fouls, right? I'll take 5-10 mins of that in a bruising, hustling 3rd-string/DNP-CD type of situation. Can't coach size, they say, and if he gets run off the court during garbage time mins or etc., the GSW org can always fish and cut bait. His cap number is good, ya? My candidate for 2nd 2-way spot (and I still haven't even read PT 2. in this series)
Yep, I did not mean to shade Johnson specifically; He showed last year that he plays hard and is an efficient rebounder- that can definitely be a plus. And obviously the cap issue hangs over everything the FO does. I was just making the point that any young two-way player we put in that position will struggle to get respect from officials when matched up against experienced bigs (they'll need all 6 of those fouls!) and may also have trouble effectively integrating into our complex system. Also, potential injuries may mean more minutes necessary here than we think since we are already so thin in the front court as currently constructed. Just think veteran depth is a better choice for the role.
Semi unrelated note. Really sad to hear about Ohtani and Strasburgs injuries. These are two of the most dynamic pitchers in my lifetime: must watch everytime they step/ped on the mound. Just a sad day for baseball all around.
It's incredibly sad for the sport in Ohtani's case, because it feels like the beginning of his ability to pitch dropping off as we get further into his career. I hope I'm wrong but this will be his second Tommy John if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah still an everyday player but we are being deprived of such a unique historical thing. Strasburg at his height people forget was considered the most dominant pitcher of his generation. Electric stuff. Kust sad stuff all around. Im ready for bball.
Please send cool thoughts; my date night dinner rez with the wife has just been cancelled due to aircon issues and the fact that it is currently 99 degrees and feels like 113. Been a rough week, hopefully cooler this weekend...
We're redirecting to a favorite spot we can just drop in on that has ice cream martinis so that should help some!
I don't drink a lot these days, but if we're doing cocktails, make mine a (very) dry gin martini, please. Simple perfection, like Klay Thompson's jump shot in a glass.
Wasn't there a story of discontent within the Clipper core that came out much later, including between CP3 and Blake? And is it a plus or minus that Blake once punched out a trainer while having drinks or dinner with him? Maybe draw attention away from Draymond, or really not the type of person you want around? That said, I have been impressed with his hustle and team play over the past couple of years -seems like more maturity. But David Lee's words still echo as he screamed at Blake on the court, "STOP FLOPPING!" (if anyone can find that clip it's hilarious, and true). Overall, PLEASE NO!
Not Amicos worst tweet either. Not by a longshot. He is the NBA writers version of Clay Travis. Poor Sam Amick has gotten alot of flack for a couple of Amicos tweets over the years
By the way, Perks and I were talking about him writing a Q&A style mailbag for questions about roster and cap rules and similar issues. If you have such questions, please drop them in a reply to this comment.
I don't think it's quite appropriate to a Q&A, but on the topic of cap, I'd like to read about
1) possible scenarios for Klay's deal and extensions for Moody and Kuminga. What would offering Klay draymond-ish money mean for what they can offer those two?
2) What would the cap situation look like if Wiseman was still on the team? The same as GPII or did they get out from an extension?
3) Let's say Saric plays well and there's mutual interest in staying with the team (I feel like this team is going to need a stretch big). Is there a possibility of a Batum-like longer term deal down the road or is that pipe dream?
4) Let's say Gui has another positive development season and looks roster-ready next summer, what tools are available to bring him onto the team next year?
5) How the heck do the Cavs keep poaching guards from the Dubs?
What is the usual number of invites to training camp? How are the players chosen? Once it’s announced that they have an invite to training camp, are they committed to coming to that training camp?
There are lots of dogs in the NBA — or at least dawgs. You often hear players say of a teammate, "he's a dog!" Note that one does not hear the female equivalent in the WNBA because nobody wants to be called that. 😊
The closest rule is New CBA X.1.b.i. Players must be 19 years of age to be draft eligible, so most dogs will not be eligible. There might also be issues about whether a dog can sign a contract or not.
If JTA and JaVale McGee were the final two competing for the 14th spot, perhaps they could settle it by seeing who could better dunk on the other. I believe they have some history :)
Aug 24, 2023·edited Aug 24, 2023Liked by Perks (GSWCBA)
Had a question I hope someone can answer regarding the buy out limitation for second apron teams. Is it correct that anyone that gets bought out, regardless of their contact value above a minimum, could be signed by the Dubs up to the first day of the season, but after that, they are all off limits, even if they were bought out in September? Or, anyone that is bought out before the first day of the season can be signed by the Dubs any time during the year, and they are only blocked from signing someone that gets bought out during the season? Not sure it really matters, but I was curious for that 15th spot in March, and how much of a handcuff the new CBA is.
Any player who is bought out during the offseason (any time before the first day of the regular season which this year is Oct. 24) can be signed at any point during the season regardless of their pre-buyout contract amount.
Any player who is bought out after the regular season begins who's salary is greater than $12.4M cannot be signed by a team above the first apron like the Warriors during that season.
Hope that helps explain it.
Also I originally had it written as pertaining to only second apron teams, but I just checked it in the CBA and it actually applies to first apron teams as well.
glen. robinson 3 with the caveat if he’s in any semblance of playing shape. Im very very pessimistic on these players that leave for any reason and then attempt a comeback. Waiters same deal.
Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 23, 2023Liked by Perks (GSWCBA)
I voted for Warren. I like that he has scoring ability, and that he's 6'8". Really feel that whoever we bring in should be able to play a traditional SF role, because right now Wiggins is the only guy on the roster I feel comfortable about calling a 3.
Moody is a 2-3, and while he's got the length for the position doesn't really seem like he's got the strength to be a prototypical SF-PF and back up Wiggs. Kuminga has the size and strength, but doesn't quite provide the spacing needed to be a SF in my - and Steve Kerr's - opinion. (I know he had a great season shooting the 3 last year, but if teams continue not to respect him it doesn't matter: the court still gets clogged with his man).
Between Moody, GPII and Lester, we've already got so many SG-SF's on the roster, so we really need another pure SF or SF-PF who can space it. Saric is an excellent singing, but he's a PF-C. So my ideal addition is someone who provides spacing but can guard opposing SF's. Warren feels like the highest ceiling of the options listed, as well as fitting this role the best. I'd also be all in on McDermott or Bullock if they becomes available, and would love to see Glenn Robinson III or Tony Snell get a look as alternatives too.
It was always frustrating how Bernie would try to upstage Warren by announcing the same policy initiative ideas a day before she did. Petty move that -- oh, wait.
I totally get all that. At the same time: they’re not T****. (In any case, I was mostly just playfully riffing on the “I voted for Warren” phrasing, not trying to make a political statement).
I’m comfortable with any of Wiggs, Thompson, Kuminga, Moody, or Payton playing the 3.
In any case, the 14th and 15th roster spots are for third-string roster depth / occasional rest games / injury insurance / enthusiastic towel-waving, not so much for for primary backups or regular rotation guys. The 11 presumed regular rotation guys right now are starters + CP3, CoJo, Payton, Moody, Kuminga, and Saric, with TJD likely #12 if he continues to show out. After that it’s catch as catch can, minutes-wise (barring injury.)
I wholeheartedly agree with you on your observations about needing a true backup to Wiggins but I will say why im so Bullish on Bullock (pun intended) is why im pessimistic on Moody. Bullock can guard most 3s in this league but can shoot like a 2 (avgd 38.4 for his career on higher attempts than moody). We dont have a true backup 2 either and I think Bullock can fill those two roles adequately (guarding 3s with Klay on the floor & playing SG next to Wiggins) something that Moody is physically incapable of doing.
Nvm, I’ll do it for you. Bullock was not in the league till age 22, was cut by his first two teams, was bad until about age 25, and never cracked 400 minutes played in a season till he was 26.
Moses at age 20 played over 800 minutes and put up .603 TS, and .725 TS in the playoffs.
Moody’s also got a 7’-1” wingspan to Bullock’s relatively stumpy 6’-9” (which could be a slightly bigger delta than that, since Moses was ~3 years younger than Bullock was at his draft combine). Several analysts have suggested some of Moody’s defensive issues as a skinny teenager — beyond, you know, being a skinny teenager — arose from his not leveraging his elite length by gapping smaller, quicker players adequately. Recent accounts (e.g. by Joe Nava IIRC) suggest Moses has already started addressing that issue, and has been making significant defensive strides as a result.
Of course, you’re inventing a roster problem that does not really exist. You know who can guard threes when Klay is on the floor? Klay. And you know who can guard twos with Wiggs on the floor? Wiggs. But from everything we’ve seen and heard, Moody —especially with another year of development under his belt — will be a perfectly solid-to-great second wing in either of those scenarios.
But I know doubling and tripling down on bad takes is fun, so by all means keep pretending you’re an authority on what Moses at age 20 is not “physically capable” of.
I'm still all-in on the buyout market. Gallinari is going to be bought out. I can feel it. If Dougie McD or Davis Bertans were bought out, I'd be all over it, but I don't think either is happening. Keep the 14th spot open until TC and it will be nice to have the flexibility other ring-chasing teams don't. Worst comes to worst, you can sign JTA in TC. I'm still mad we didn't get Muscala as part of the Poole/CP3 deal though.
1. TJ - Sure, why not another ex-Suns player with a chip on his shoulder?
2. Juan/Javale - "Remember...walking in the sand?"
3. Jayce - This guy reminds me of Kevon Looney. There, I said it.
#DNHQRULESOK?
Ha! I can watch the World Cup at a very reasonable hour, Germany:Japan starts at 14:00 (2 pm).
Can we reuse the photoshops of Giannis in a Warriors jersey from previous go arounds?
https://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/38253377/giannis-antetokounmpo-sign-extension-title-commitment-bucks
I was just about to post that…
🤔
Out of the available options, Javonte Green seems like the clear favorite to me.
Green has demonstrated to be highly effective as a role player with good versatile defense (can guard SG/SF/PF) and can hit threes efficiently on a limited basis. His +/- per 100 possessions have consistently been very positive throughout his career and he's spent his time in the NBA on teams who were trying to win (important for me in a role player on a championship team).
My one major criticism would be that he has a low assist % which might be indicative of being a bad passer, a big no no in our system.
The one stat with Javonte that concerns me is that (per BB-Ref) he’s 6’-4”.
Bad passer? Or never in a system where he would pass?
Who knows. I haven't watched film on him so I couldn't say, but thats why I said it "might be indicative".
I'm inclined to bring JaVale back if the Mavericks really do waive him. He can still rebound and block the occasional shot even if he doesn't offer much on offense beyond throwing down lobs. If the Warriors have LQ on a 2-way, how much backup do they need for Moody and Kuminga given that they are already backups?
I agree. We need an experienced big who can do what Javale does in limited minutes without any complaints about PT. He slots right into our system without a learning curve and earns the respect that comes from officials/coaches/players as a long-time vet in the league with three rings. Relying instead on some raw young big in one of the two-way spots (e.g. a Jayce Johnson) to fill this role is not going to cut it when we need to slow down Jokic, Davis, etc. Would like to see JTA back for the end of the bench too as others have said, but that 15th spot is staying open and I'd rather have a true center rostered by the time the season gets underway.
Last time I counted, Jayce still gets six fouls, right? I'll take 5-10 mins of that in a bruising, hustling 3rd-string/DNP-CD type of situation. Can't coach size, they say, and if he gets run off the court during garbage time mins or etc., the GSW org can always fish and cut bait. His cap number is good, ya? My candidate for 2nd 2-way spot (and I still haven't even read PT 2. in this series)
Yep, I did not mean to shade Johnson specifically; He showed last year that he plays hard and is an efficient rebounder- that can definitely be a plus. And obviously the cap issue hangs over everything the FO does. I was just making the point that any young two-way player we put in that position will struggle to get respect from officials when matched up against experienced bigs (they'll need all 6 of those fouls!) and may also have trouble effectively integrating into our complex system. Also, potential injuries may mean more minutes necessary here than we think since we are already so thin in the front court as currently constructed. Just think veteran depth is a better choice for the role.
Semi unrelated note. Really sad to hear about Ohtani and Strasburgs injuries. These are two of the most dynamic pitchers in my lifetime: must watch everytime they step/ped on the mound. Just a sad day for baseball all around.
It's incredibly sad for the sport in Ohtani's case, because it feels like the beginning of his ability to pitch dropping off as we get further into his career. I hope I'm wrong but this will be his second Tommy John if I'm not mistaken.
Hes going from 500 mil to 350 mil. Thats still a 150 mil loss
Yeah still an everyday player but we are being deprived of such a unique historical thing. Strasburg at his height people forget was considered the most dominant pitcher of his generation. Electric stuff. Kust sad stuff all around. Im ready for bball.
For all the Franz Wagner stans on here:
Franz Wagner Breaks Down The Secrets to His Game in Exclusive 1 on 1 Interview | BBallBreakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ArUCw7r1I
Please send cool thoughts; my date night dinner rez with the wife has just been cancelled due to aircon issues and the fact that it is currently 99 degrees and feels like 113. Been a rough week, hopefully cooler this weekend...
We're redirecting to a favorite spot we can just drop in on that has ice cream martinis so that should help some!
The answer 95 percent of the time will always be your AC capacitor. 15 dollar fix my friend. Google Youtube for basic instructs
Sorry, I wasn't clear - it is the restaurant that is having the aircon issues. We're frosty :)
Oh shoot but Thank the basketball gods. A balmy 98 here in Mid Missouri right now AND I generally hate to use this term BUT its a dry heat right now 🤗
I don't drink a lot these days, but if we're doing cocktails, make mine a (very) dry gin martini, please. Simple perfection, like Klay Thompson's jump shot in a glass.
Same.
Two favorite things: Martini, and ice cream. Just cannot fathom mixing them. (I'm too old ...)
Don’t knock it till you try it ;)
That said it’s not mixing a martini and ice cream, e.g. mine had crème de menthe vodka and ice cream.
I think I passed out just reading the ingredients list.
Damn that's a lot of sugar.
This is (close to) what I'm having tonight: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5c6885759b7d1570b893cc69/1554951721045-F895XYCA5IWYEQMLYZ72/00100lPORTRAIT_00100_BURST20190329143127947_COVER.jpg?format=500w.
Actually going to be having the Grasshopper which is mint chip ice cream with creme de menthe. Soooo good.
Lob City baby!
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/nba-rumors-blake-griffin-free-agency/1650287/
I hear Doc is available
Wasn't there a story of discontent within the Clipper core that came out much later, including between CP3 and Blake? And is it a plus or minus that Blake once punched out a trainer while having drinks or dinner with him? Maybe draw attention away from Draymond, or really not the type of person you want around? That said, I have been impressed with his hustle and team play over the past couple of years -seems like more maturity. But David Lee's words still echo as he screamed at Blake on the court, "STOP FLOPPING!" (if anyone can find that clip it's hilarious, and true). Overall, PLEASE NO!
Let him know, D-Lee!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Nm4PQLxzA
First Chris Paul. Now Griffin. Who’s next, DeAndre Jordan? LOL! Are we trying to be a mini Clippers team of old?
With an emphasis on "old."
Throwback Thursday to a (now deleted) Sam Amico tweet from January 10th, 2015:
> This will tick off uneducated NBA fans, but no way Warriors go anywhere special if they stay this soft & 3s focus of offense. No way. Ever.
https://bluemanhoop.com/2015/01/11/dear-sam-amico-response-incorrect-cavs-reporter/
And if anyone wants to trot out "nobody could have seen this coming", a counterpoint: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-new-stephen-curry-how-the-warriors-super-shooter-has-transformed-his-game-in-the-playoffs/ (linked in that same article).
Also:
https://www.espn.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/6/why-the-warriors-can-win-the-2014-15-title
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/2014-nba-preview-the-rise-of-the-warriors/
Not Amicos worst tweet either. Not by a longshot. He is the NBA writers version of Clay Travis. Poor Sam Amick has gotten alot of flack for a couple of Amicos tweets over the years
By the way, Perks and I were talking about him writing a Q&A style mailbag for questions about roster and cap rules and similar issues. If you have such questions, please drop them in a reply to this comment.
I don't think it's quite appropriate to a Q&A, but on the topic of cap, I'd like to read about
1) possible scenarios for Klay's deal and extensions for Moody and Kuminga. What would offering Klay draymond-ish money mean for what they can offer those two?
2) What would the cap situation look like if Wiseman was still on the team? The same as GPII or did they get out from an extension?
3) Let's say Saric plays well and there's mutual interest in staying with the team (I feel like this team is going to need a stretch big). Is there a possibility of a Batum-like longer term deal down the road or is that pipe dream?
4) Let's say Gui has another positive development season and looks roster-ready next summer, what tools are available to bring him onto the team next year?
5) How the heck do the Cavs keep poaching guards from the Dubs?
Thanks for providing the space!
What are the official rules around retirement and un-retirement? Can a player retire and then un-retire and sign with any team?
What is the usual number of invites to training camp? How are the players chosen? Once it’s announced that they have an invite to training camp, are they committed to coming to that training camp?
Where in the rulebook does it say a dog cant play basketball?
I assumed they could, otherwise the whole premise of Air Bud is a sham, as is my childhood.
There are lots of dogs in the NBA — or at least dawgs. You often hear players say of a teammate, "he's a dog!" Note that one does not hear the female equivalent in the WNBA because nobody wants to be called that. 😊
The closest rule is New CBA X.1.b.i. Players must be 19 years of age to be draft eligible, so most dogs will not be eligible. There might also be issues about whether a dog can sign a contract or not.
I'm pretty sure my stepmother's dog leaves a lot of Exhibit 2s.
Sadly, there is no provision for dog years in the CBA, perhaps the union can try for it in the next round of re-openers
If JTA and JaVale McGee were the final two competing for the 14th spot, perhaps they could settle it by seeing who could better dunk on the other. I believe they have some history :)
Had a question I hope someone can answer regarding the buy out limitation for second apron teams. Is it correct that anyone that gets bought out, regardless of their contact value above a minimum, could be signed by the Dubs up to the first day of the season, but after that, they are all off limits, even if they were bought out in September? Or, anyone that is bought out before the first day of the season can be signed by the Dubs any time during the year, and they are only blocked from signing someone that gets bought out during the season? Not sure it really matters, but I was curious for that 15th spot in March, and how much of a handcuff the new CBA is.
Any player who is bought out during the offseason (any time before the first day of the regular season which this year is Oct. 24) can be signed at any point during the season regardless of their pre-buyout contract amount.
Any player who is bought out after the regular season begins who's salary is greater than $12.4M cannot be signed by a team above the first apron like the Warriors during that season.
Hope that helps explain it.
Also I originally had it written as pertaining to only second apron teams, but I just checked it in the CBA and it actually applies to first apron teams as well.
Thanks, that is very clear.
Thanks for all the years of great content. Your guides are what got me interested in understanding the offseason and roster building.
FAs listed
No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, Yes (if back to form), No, No, No, No, Maybe (if back to form)
Potential Buyouts
Yes, Meh, Yes, No, YES to Reggie Bullock! (out of any on this list), No, No, No, No, No
wait so who's the one Yes who's actually for sure a free agent?
glen. robinson 3 with the caveat if he’s in any semblance of playing shape. Im very very pessimistic on these players that leave for any reason and then attempt a comeback. Waiters same deal.
I voted for Warren. I like that he has scoring ability, and that he's 6'8". Really feel that whoever we bring in should be able to play a traditional SF role, because right now Wiggins is the only guy on the roster I feel comfortable about calling a 3.
Moody is a 2-3, and while he's got the length for the position doesn't really seem like he's got the strength to be a prototypical SF-PF and back up Wiggs. Kuminga has the size and strength, but doesn't quite provide the spacing needed to be a SF in my - and Steve Kerr's - opinion. (I know he had a great season shooting the 3 last year, but if teams continue not to respect him it doesn't matter: the court still gets clogged with his man).
Between Moody, GPII and Lester, we've already got so many SG-SF's on the roster, so we really need another pure SF or SF-PF who can space it. Saric is an excellent singing, but he's a PF-C. So my ideal addition is someone who provides spacing but can guard opposing SF's. Warren feels like the highest ceiling of the options listed, as well as fitting this role the best. I'd also be all in on McDermott or Bullock if they becomes available, and would love to see Glenn Robinson III or Tony Snell get a look as alternatives too.
> I voted for Warren.
Cool, I like her too. As long as you voted for Biden in the general. 😊
It was always frustrating how Bernie would try to upstage Warren by announcing the same policy initiative ideas a day before she did. Petty move that -- oh, wait.
I totally get all that. At the same time: they’re not T****. (In any case, I was mostly just playfully riffing on the “I voted for Warren” phrasing, not trying to make a political statement).
Sure, we know that. What’s the first step?
I’m comfortable with any of Wiggs, Thompson, Kuminga, Moody, or Payton playing the 3.
In any case, the 14th and 15th roster spots are for third-string roster depth / occasional rest games / injury insurance / enthusiastic towel-waving, not so much for for primary backups or regular rotation guys. The 11 presumed regular rotation guys right now are starters + CP3, CoJo, Payton, Moody, Kuminga, and Saric, with TJD likely #12 if he continues to show out. After that it’s catch as catch can, minutes-wise (barring injury.)
I wholeheartedly agree with you on your observations about needing a true backup to Wiggins but I will say why im so Bullish on Bullock (pun intended) is why im pessimistic on Moody. Bullock can guard most 3s in this league but can shoot like a 2 (avgd 38.4 for his career on higher attempts than moody). We dont have a true backup 2 either and I think Bullock can fill those two roles adequately (guarding 3s with Klay on the floor & playing SG next to Wiggins) something that Moody is physically incapable of doing.
Now do Bullock at age 19-20 v Moody at age 19-20.
Nvm, I’ll do it for you. Bullock was not in the league till age 22, was cut by his first two teams, was bad until about age 25, and never cracked 400 minutes played in a season till he was 26.
Moses at age 20 played over 800 minutes and put up .603 TS, and .725 TS in the playoffs.
Moody’s also got a 7’-1” wingspan to Bullock’s relatively stumpy 6’-9” (which could be a slightly bigger delta than that, since Moses was ~3 years younger than Bullock was at his draft combine). Several analysts have suggested some of Moody’s defensive issues as a skinny teenager — beyond, you know, being a skinny teenager — arose from his not leveraging his elite length by gapping smaller, quicker players adequately. Recent accounts (e.g. by Joe Nava IIRC) suggest Moses has already started addressing that issue, and has been making significant defensive strides as a result.
Of course, you’re inventing a roster problem that does not really exist. You know who can guard threes when Klay is on the floor? Klay. And you know who can guard twos with Wiggs on the floor? Wiggs. But from everything we’ve seen and heard, Moody —especially with another year of development under his belt — will be a perfectly solid-to-great second wing in either of those scenarios.
But I know doubling and tripling down on bad takes is fun, so by all means keep pretending you’re an authority on what Moses at age 20 is not “physically capable” of.
Moody I believe will flourish this season.
https://media.tenor.com/BOeZSA_X3BAAAAAC/billy-madison-wrong.gif
😂
I'm still all-in on the buyout market. Gallinari is going to be bought out. I can feel it. If Dougie McD or Davis Bertans were bought out, I'd be all over it, but I don't think either is happening. Keep the 14th spot open until TC and it will be nice to have the flexibility other ring-chasing teams don't. Worst comes to worst, you can sign JTA in TC. I'm still mad we didn't get Muscala as part of the Poole/CP3 deal though.