Honestly the technical foul thing could and should be cleaned up so easily. It should be a massive penalty to talk back to an official. Just shut up and play. You can get a tech for arguing with an opponent. Fine, it happens. But there is no benefit to the players, the fans, the game flow, the refs, the league for a player to bitch about calls. Complain at all? Kicked out. Do it again? Suspended ten games. Games would go faster, players could focus on playing. This whole myth of "because he got a tech that inspired the team" (coach or player) would I utterly bet not hold up to any statistical analysis. Giving away a point is not a rational choice unless you're convincingly persuaded that the team will respond with an additional two points. I doubt that's true. It's like the Dixie Chicks were once famously shouted at: "Shut up and sing!"
I think they should be allowed to discuss it (argue) to a certain point, but without histrionics like yelling and waiving arms. A player should able to say things like “That ball went off his foot. Can you ask for help here?”, or “Yeah, I ran into him, but I was pushed into him.” and refs should be able to continue to explain to players what they saw and called.
Brief, adult discussions aren’t going to slow down the game and don’t need to get tech’d.
Fair, OK. But can we agree that the bitching on every call is ridiculous? Or even prolonged arguing. It's not like the refs ever go "You know what? Good point. Call reversed." There is this theory that they will do a makeup call but I don't think it's statistically significant. I don't mind a brief, gentlemanly discussion. Fine. More than that is where I draw the line.
Bucks seemingly trying to lose to have a chance to avoid a first round matchup with the Nets. If they are successful and lose, the Warriors would only have to go 1-1 to have home court advantage against the Bucks/Sixers/Celtics in a potential Finals series.
Bad news for those who wanted a slightly higher draft pick though.
They’re tempting karma and sending a signal to the Nets that they’re scared of them. The defending champs don’t have enough swag to “Who we play doesn’t matter. We know we’re the best.”?
Despite, Belilaugh’s arguments, I hope the Warrior don’t lay down like that.
Lol it's because his skin is so dark. His pics (especially solo) really don't convert to the black and white stencils very well. Had to do a lot of cleanup on this one
Embiid just dropped 41 and 20 on 14-17. That seems like rather efficient shooting. If I were an MVP voter I might be tempted to give him, Giannis and Jokic each a third of the vote because it really is damn close. Each of them if losing the MVP can say "I really don't know what more I'm supposed to do around here."
But records don't directly compare across conferences. We play Western teams far more often than Eastern teams. Who knows what our record would be if we were in the East?
That was true when the west had all the good teams and dominated the east head-to-head for over a decade, but it’s a more even this season, so I think it’d translate to a very similar record.
Yeah- I looked at a recent nba.com power rankings and the Dubs were wayyyyyy low and it blows my mind considering they still have, what, the third best record in the entire NBA?
Eh, I'm fine with it. It's a "what have you done for me lately" league, and those power rankings really just reflect who is hot right now. Warriors haven't been great recently. Injuries are the reason why, but it is what it is.
I don't think anyone doubts they have the talent to win it all if they can get healthy for the playoffs.
I like the plan to make San Antonio the final tune-up and to rest more guys against the Pels. It's all a crapshoot in terms of the draw. No use trying to get too strategic. The road to the finals is likely to go through Memphis and Phoenix anyway. There's always the possibility that Minnesota, LAC, or Dallas gets hot and knocks out one of them -- which I could easily live with.
How different is playing guys like Klay, Iggy and OPJ limited minutes for 2 games in a back-to-back vs. playing one game and sitting the other? As an example, Klay’s been averaging over 33 minutes/game over his last five games. Assuming he’s feeling ok, would playing ~15/game over the final two games really be that bad?
Related, is there any thought to playing everyone in the first half and then start sitting guys in the 2nd half if the game appears to be in hand (as it should be with all the guys SAS is sitting) with the idea of making them available against NOP. This would also allow them to sit everyone in question if the Warriors screw the pooch and actually lose the game today.
To me, this makes sense logically if it doesn’t screw with players’ bodies or heads.
The recovery time is probably it, but the warm-up and shoot around is nothing compared to game action and more akin to what Klay was doing before we was even allowed to scrimmage.
Good. I want home court v. Dallas, Boston, Miami, or Milwaukee; and I’m perfectly fine with the #6 Denver / #2 Memphis bracket as opposed to #5 Utah / #1 Phoenix.
And I like Warrior wins way more than Warrior losses.
Right, but we can only conjecture whether the #4 seed is more conducive to winning than #3, whereas you’re actively rooting for the Warriors to lose a game this weekend (I think?)
Do I have this right? Did Luka Doncic, in the last stretch of a reasonably important surge for higher playoff seeding, just get his 16th T and become ineligible for his team's last game? Is that correct? Is it a big deal? Is it kind of hilarious?
"Dallas Mavericks superstar Luka Doncic avoided a one-game suspension when the NBA rescinded the technical foul called on him during Friday night's blowout win over the Portland Trail Blazers.
The league office made the determination Saturday after a review of what would have been Doncic's 16th technical foul of the season, which triggers an automatic suspension. Doncic is now eligible to play in Sunday's regular-season finale against the San Antonio Spurs, a game that could determine whether the Mavs are the third or fourth seed in the Western Conference."
Honestly the technical foul thing could and should be cleaned up so easily. It should be a massive penalty to talk back to an official. Just shut up and play. You can get a tech for arguing with an opponent. Fine, it happens. But there is no benefit to the players, the fans, the game flow, the refs, the league for a player to bitch about calls. Complain at all? Kicked out. Do it again? Suspended ten games. Games would go faster, players could focus on playing. This whole myth of "because he got a tech that inspired the team" (coach or player) would I utterly bet not hold up to any statistical analysis. Giving away a point is not a rational choice unless you're convincingly persuaded that the team will respond with an additional two points. I doubt that's true. It's like the Dixie Chicks were once famously shouted at: "Shut up and sing!"
I think they should be allowed to discuss it (argue) to a certain point, but without histrionics like yelling and waiving arms. A player should able to say things like “That ball went off his foot. Can you ask for help here?”, or “Yeah, I ran into him, but I was pushed into him.” and refs should be able to continue to explain to players what they saw and called.
Brief, adult discussions aren’t going to slow down the game and don’t need to get tech’d.
Absolutely agree. Some shitty authoritarian system where there is no dialogue at all sounds terrible.
Fair, OK. But can we agree that the bitching on every call is ridiculous? Or even prolonged arguing. It's not like the refs ever go "You know what? Good point. Call reversed." There is this theory that they will do a makeup call but I don't think it's statistically significant. I don't mind a brief, gentlemanly discussion. Fine. More than that is where I draw the line.
Ok GT will go live in about 20 minutes. LETS GOOOOOOOO
> Just landed in Cleveland. Here is the Bucks’ injury report for Sunday:
> OUT:
Grayson Allen (left hip soreness), George Hill (right abdominal strain)
Luca Vildoza (coach’s decision)
> Doubtful:
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Brook Lopez
Khris Middleton
Bobby Portis
https://twitter.com/eric_nehm/status/1512919693849473036
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Bucks seemingly trying to lose to have a chance to avoid a first round matchup with the Nets. If they are successful and lose, the Warriors would only have to go 1-1 to have home court advantage against the Bucks/Sixers/Celtics in a potential Finals series.
Bad news for those who wanted a slightly higher draft pick though.
They’re tempting karma and sending a signal to the Nets that they’re scared of them. The defending champs don’t have enough swag to “Who we play doesn’t matter. We know we’re the best.”?
Despite, Belilaugh’s arguments, I hope the Warrior don’t lay down like that.
Warriors tempted karma and tanked for Harrison Barnes and it helped them become a dynasty, I dunno if the basketball gods really care that much.
As long as we get a Jordan Poole level player (at minimum), I’m fine with pick #28. :-)
Usually I like the art work, but in this article Draymond looks like a monster lol
Lol it's because his skin is so dark. His pics (especially solo) really don't convert to the black and white stencils very well. Had to do a lot of cleanup on this one
Flipped it to a GP2 one for the GT :)
Embiid just dropped 41 and 20 on 14-17. That seems like rather efficient shooting. If I were an MVP voter I might be tempted to give him, Giannis and Jokic each a third of the vote because it really is damn close. Each of them if losing the MVP can say "I really don't know what more I'm supposed to do around here."
Good news: Warriors defensive efficiency is #1 and tied with the Celtics according to ESPN Hollinger team stats.
Bad news: Warriors offensive efficiency has fallen to #15 in the league.
Crazy how the Warriors would still be in contention for the #1 seed in the East.
But records don't directly compare across conferences. We play Western teams far more often than Eastern teams. Who knows what our record would be if we were in the East?
That was true when the west had all the good teams and dominated the east head-to-head for over a decade, but it’s a more even this season, so I think it’d translate to a very similar record.
Yeah fair point.
Yeah- I looked at a recent nba.com power rankings and the Dubs were wayyyyyy low and it blows my mind considering they still have, what, the third best record in the entire NBA?
Edit: okay, 4th. Point still stands lol.
Eh, I'm fine with it. It's a "what have you done for me lately" league, and those power rankings really just reflect who is hot right now. Warriors haven't been great recently. Injuries are the reason why, but it is what it is.
I don't think anyone doubts they have the talent to win it all if they can get healthy for the playoffs.
A big part of that is probably because they haven’t been much better than .500 in the 2nd half
Spurs stats:
Offense:
8 in points scored!!!!!! (113.3)
2 in points in paint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (53.5)
9 in fastbreak points!!!! (13.6)
17 in offensive efficiency
14 in shooting % (46.7%)
17 in three point % (35.3%)
21 in two point % (52.7%)
10 in off. rebound % ! (23.9%)
25 in def. rebound % (75.1%)
18 in total rebound % (49.5%)
23 in opponent blocks (5.0)
11 in opponent steals (7.4)
1 in assists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (28.1)
6 in turnovers!!!!!!!!!! (12.8)
Defense:
23 in points allowed (113.0)
26 in opponent points in paint (50.3)
10 in opponent fastbreak points!! (11.8)
16 in defensive efficiency
19 in opponent shooting % (46.6%)
20 in opponent three point % (35.9%)
14 in opponent two point % (52.8%)
9 in blocks!!! (5.0)
13 in steals (7.6)
10 in opponent assists! (23.9)
14 in opponent turnovers (13.8)
Klay is out tonight, apparently....??
Yep, Klay sitting it out tonight, Otto & Andre (at minimum) sitting out tomorrow.
I like the plan to make San Antonio the final tune-up and to rest more guys against the Pels. It's all a crapshoot in terms of the draw. No use trying to get too strategic. The road to the finals is likely to go through Memphis and Phoenix anyway. There's always the possibility that Minnesota, LAC, or Dallas gets hot and knocks out one of them -- which I could easily live with.
Do the technical counts in the regular season get reset in the playoffs.
Yep.
https://www.si.com/nba/2019/05/10/playoffs-flagrant-foul-suspension-rules-technicals
Five IIRC. I’m pretty sure it was 5 flagrant foul points (tracked separately) when Dray was suspended. Not as sure if it is the same number of techs.
(Looked it up; answer is seven and flagrant foul points require only three)
How different is playing guys like Klay, Iggy and OPJ limited minutes for 2 games in a back-to-back vs. playing one game and sitting the other? As an example, Klay’s been averaging over 33 minutes/game over his last five games. Assuming he’s feeling ok, would playing ~15/game over the final two games really be that bad?
Related, is there any thought to playing everyone in the first half and then start sitting guys in the 2nd half if the game appears to be in hand (as it should be with all the guys SAS is sitting) with the idea of making them available against NOP. This would also allow them to sit everyone in question if the Warriors screw the pooch and actually lose the game today.
To me, this makes sense logically if it doesn’t screw with players’ bodies or heads.
The recovery time is probably it, but the warm-up and shoot around is nothing compared to game action and more akin to what Klay was doing before we was even allowed to scrimmage.
Spurs got lots of guys sitting tonight: Murray, Poeltl, Johnson, McDermott, and Vassell. Looks like they’re resting guys tonight and playing tomorrow.
Whoa. Pop doing his wine-buddy Kerr a solid?
Not a single team in the NBA is cooperating with my desire to get the 4 seed
Good. I want home court v. Dallas, Boston, Miami, or Milwaukee; and I’m perfectly fine with the #6 Denver / #2 Memphis bracket as opposed to #5 Utah / #1 Phoenix.
And I like Warrior wins way more than Warrior losses.
Yup, despite everything I know about the lack of importance of momentum, I want the Warriors to head into the post-season with a nice run of wins.
> And I like Warrior wins way more than Warrior losses.
Same, but that's why I want the 4 seed.
Right, but we can only conjecture whether the #4 seed is more conducive to winning than #3, whereas you’re actively rooting for the Warriors to lose a game this weekend (I think?)
Do I have this right? Did Luka Doncic, in the last stretch of a reasonably important surge for higher playoff seeding, just get his 16th T and become ineligible for his team's last game? Is that correct? Is it a big deal? Is it kind of hilarious?
DONCIC UPDATE FOR ALL YOU DONCIC NEWS NUTS:
"Dallas Mavericks superstar Luka Doncic avoided a one-game suspension when the NBA rescinded the technical foul called on him during Friday night's blowout win over the Portland Trail Blazers.
The league office made the determination Saturday after a review of what would have been Doncic's 16th technical foul of the season, which triggers an automatic suspension. Doncic is now eligible to play in Sunday's regular-season finale against the San Antonio Spurs, a game that could determine whether the Mavs are the third or fourth seed in the Western Conference."
Get that 16th T out the way so it doesn’t get handed out during the playoffs
Get it out of the way a game early so you’re not suspended in the playoffs
Doesn't the count start over in the playoffs? Or does it not?
Yes it’s wiped clean
Yeah I have to go read Joe BCs link up the thread. I thought it didn’t get refreshed, but it sounds like it does
Only a big deal if it means they lose.
Or maybe it was all planned for extra rest!!!
It’s not a big deal. But it is hilarious
Don’t ever apologize for being on vacation :)
BR’s MIP ranking:
https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1512790731425034243?s=21&t=7MREBAJoEyiPeqgS0vyjMg
P.S. I am a Sabrina’s assistant. 🙂
How is Ja on this list?! Man hasn’t even played half the season and was already a star last year.
JP was in the G-League last year and is playing like an all star now.
Also the fact that Tyrese Maxey isn’t on this list is plain silly
Maybe stop checking the dnhq messages threads with one hand while you fix and engine with the other… maybe use both hands for the engine… or maybe … 😀