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A very good take on the team, 3D. While I like some of the things I'm seeing, the inconsistency of the scorers still haunts them. Oubre seems to be emerging as a player we've all hoped for. Wiggins has stepped up defensively, but is still lagging in his offensive production, IMO. He goes absent on that side of the ball during games. Green is focusing on his strengths, playmaking and defense, and JTA has made a statement, to his credit. All in all, 1 step forward, 1 step back. The only thing the Warriors are sure of is the greatness of Curry. He always finds a way to score.

Looking forward to the return of Wiseman and the continued emergence of Oubre and JTA. Plus a word of praise for DLee and his non stop effort. Oh yes, Paschall is looking deadly from midrange, again.

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this pod with ESS and Bogut is pretty damn good

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/with-andrew-bogut/id1256311646?i=1000508643043

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Thanks for the link. Really enjoyed hearing Bogue's take on team dynamics and chemistry in the NBA. Also was interesting re: the NBL and how some of the selfishness you'd see in the NBA wouldn't fly in Australia... having been trying to follow Jessup lately, you can definitely get the sense that anyone who plays in the NBL will be a willing and able passer.

There's so many good bits in here regarding the championship teams as well...

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A 2-2 roadtrip to Texas would have been an acceptable outcome even in the dynasty days. We just need to beat Brooklyn this week...

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The fact that teams are willing to let anybody but Curry take an uncontested shot is the reason that, IMHO, Curry should be the leading MVP candidate. Other than being a homer, of course. You can't game plan around preventing Durant from shooting because the Nets have other weapons. I'm not a fan of Westbrook's game, but he can get to the rim and score and Bertans is a dangerous 3pt shooter, so teams can't just double Beal.

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It just sucks so bad that there's no criteria to the MVP award. For a long time, I always thought of it as "best player on the best team" but now it's been totally obscured to the point where it feels totally arbitrary. Triple doubles on a bad team? Sure! Good players (like KD and Steph) cancel each other, but not this year because LeBron is on a stacked Lakers team... whatever.

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With respect, I don't think it sucks. The absence of a defined criteria is exactly what leads to all of the discussion and arguments for one player or another. There are enough 'objective' measures in sports -- championships, wins, counting stats. I think the subjectivity is all to the good.

I do wish Steph could get more of a hearing. But the season is still young.

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Clearly they should lean into the "value" award and give it to the player who's perceived as providing the best price to performance ratio. I'm sure team owners would be all about this.

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Eh, sports awards can be weird in general. It's pretty much the same in baseball. Sometimes the MVP is obvious, sometimes you wonder WTF. And that's without even getting into the Dismal Swamp that is the baseball Hall of Fame process. That we're even talking about the NBA MVP this early in the season is, well, it's what fans do, but it's wanking really. Anything can happen, somebody on the fringe of MVP could turn into Superman in the second half—or get hurt/sick and be out of it. We can point to last year and say that without Steph we're arguably the worst team in the league, and with him, we are in the playoff hunt, so he's MVP. And we can't argue that KD's value is less because he has Harden and Kyrie unless we also argue that Steph's value was less because of KD, Klay, and Dray. That dog won't hunt.

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Narrative and groupthink award.

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Maybe what they need to do when there is a consensus all time great currently playing to to split the award. In the current era, there would be the LeBron James award given to the best player named LeBron James, with the MVP award going to the best player in the current year. Previously we could have had the Michael Jordan Award given to the best player named Michael Jordan, and the Wilt Chamberlain award given to the best player named Wilt Chamberlain, etc.

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Feb 11, 2021Liked by punk basketball

* It’s great to see everyone not named Draymond or Looney finally coming to understand how to unlock all of Curry’s gifts. Another exciting thing is that there’s still a ton of room for improvement.

* I was expecting-but-hoping-against Wiggins’ drop-off in offensive production; he did the same thing last year. I’m still hoping, tho, that this is just a minor slump and not a sign that he’s permanently returning to his previous baseline.

* So stoked to see JTA making an impact and a name for himself. You could see stirrings of it last season. I wonder whose roster spot Meyers will give him? Smiley or Mulder?

* With continued internal improvement and cohesion and a potential upgrade via the DPE, it’s plausible, imo, for the Dubs to end up being a top-five team. Heck, even ESPN now has them potentially landing in the top six: “But according to ESPN's enhanced Basketball Power Index (BPI), Golden State has a 56.2 percent chance of finishing sixth or better in the West.” This is great, especially considering Hollinger had them finishing 11th in the West.

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Personally, I'd drop Wannamaker.

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Kerr seems to like Wanamaker. His contract is guaranteed, too.

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Feb 11, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Mulder seems more expendable to me than he did before. I just don't feel like I've seen him make any kind of impact, even in his limited minutes.

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In his defense, for Mulder not to be standing out *in a bad way* in his minutes is kind of an endorsement. He's not ball-hogging, taking inadvisable shots, or getting picked apart on D. That's more than you can say for a *lot* of G-league prospects.

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I'm on the fence. For the most part, Mulder doesn't make the most of his minutes. But at least he's not injured as much as Smiley and has shown he can hit the 3 (although he doesn't seem to hit them when it matters very often).

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Gotta love Mulder's confidence. He comes in and immediately launches three balls. That's what got him into the league and if he doesn't hit them, that's what will bounce him from the league. No Omri Casspi there.

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Omri Casspi. Ouch! That's a sore subject.

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I was a fan. Intelligent player that couldn't access his one talent in a short stint. But he might have rounded into form given more of a chance.

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Honestly Casspi did a lot of things well for us even though he wasn't shooting threes; his slashing was solid and IIRC he had a solid stretch when KD was out that he filled in the role admirably.

Was just a bummer how he got sidelined with injury right before playoff time.

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This.

Also, Mulder is on a non guaranteed deal, so it's just cheaper and easier to cut him over Smiley

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And also much easier to replace a 6'3" spot up shooter. I think there's at least 2 players on the current G-League team that hit over 40% from 3p... plus Jessup... plus maybe Poole if he ever pans out...

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I'm excited to see what JJ can do once he gets here.

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Plus Smiley is Kirk Lacob's love child. OK, not really. But he's Kirk's guy.

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yeah, I'm curious to see what they do. Warriors have another option to get out of his contract this fall. It would be pretty shocking if they bought in for another year with him, but like you say, this was really Kirk's first (and only?) big target

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The thing about Smiley is we get distracted by the dopy look and the agonizingly raw game and forget that he is pretty athletic for a big. We may not keep him long enough for him to develop but that doesn't mean he can't turn into a beast if he finally learns how to play.

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> We may not keep him long enough for him to develop but that doesn't mean he can't turn into a beast

Boucher....

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To me, it's kind of weird that fans are so much higher on Poole than Smiley and I think it has a lot to do with what you mentioned about looks. Poole has a more vibrant personality and shows confidence when he's out there... he clearly works hard... so I am rooting for him.

But objectively speaking, does he even show that's he's average at anything? He's not a shooter, not a playmaker, not a defender... can get to the rim but can't finish. He's shown some flashes of improvement in his 3p shot but even if he got that up to a consistent 40%, that's all he's got and he's still easily replaceable (see my comment re: Mulder above).

Now when it comes to 6'10" guys with some mobility and skill, I'd rather hold on to them and cut the 6'4" dime-a-dozen guard. We already let Chris Boucher go too early and look at him tearing it up in TOR now.

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True Smiley is very young and even more raw than Wiseman, despite having been a pro for longer, and he does show flashes of ability. But how long can we devote a roster spot to him to find out whether he can develop? If we had to decide today, I might be okay with losing Mulder, who isn't guaranteed and is mostly a one-trick pony (outside shooting) who isn't making a difference. But it's tough to keep Smiley next season if he doesn't polish his act this year, especially if we get the Wolves' 1st round pick and our own 1st rounder is promising —and then there's Mannion and possibly Jessup to consider.

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Feb 11, 2021Liked by punk basketball

The Warriors should win this one. It might be closer than it should, but I'm hoping for the big blowout DDD projects. Our biggest enemy tonight is ourselves: goofy turnovers, missing open layups, taking contested jumpers early in the shot clock, not securing defensive rebounds... we can absolutely give this one away if we aren't disciplined.

Or maybe Steph will go for 50 and challenge Klay's record for most 3's made in a game.

Honestly it's a little hard to focus on this game with the Nets coming to SF next; I'm salivating at the potential for laughably high scores both ways as Brooklyn plays like every game is the all-star game. Here's hoping the players are better than I am at taking things one game at a time.

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The Nets will come in focused and play great D and look like world beaters, you can count on it.

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dreading it already. Gonna be a parade to the free throw line and you know KD and Harden will be looking for a little extra kick to the Warriors butt

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Yeah, I actually hope Wiseman is back so he can get a very practical lesson in playing against two of the league's best foul-hunters, even though it'll probably be worse for our odds of winning the game. That's OK, though, I expect everyone to get roasted their first time (well, it would be his second time against Durant, but first against Harden) and the goal is just to familiarize yourself with their tricks so you won't get fooled in a more important game

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And Kyrie always brings it against Steph. Yeah, gonna be a tough one for sure.

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Feb 11, 2021Liked by punk basketball, Daniel Hardee

"To me, this is a fun season in a way that the dynasty run could never tap into. " Agree whole-heartedly. Also, "I hated the idea of the franchise wasting a single moment of Curry’s prime, but I think I had the entire premise wrong. There’s no “wasting” possible here. Curry’s brilliance is on full display." Pure poetry, I agree with this even more. In retrospect, having Curry defer his brilliance was the waste, seeing what he can do while playing free.

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Little OT but why is Jarrett Jack and Bobby Brown playing in the G League? If they're trying to make a come back teams should already know what they're offering at this point in their career. If you want to check their conditioning bring them in for a scrimmage but I feel it's a waste of a roster spot for them in a DEVELOPMENTAL league. Give the young guys a chance to make it.

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Draymond had a great comment about this. He said how important it is for these young guys to have Vets like Brown, Jack and Amir Johnson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z6i-lGDhi8

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Hopefully Jeremy Lin teaches our guys something especially Jordan Poole. He looks to be at least another year or two away before he becomes a consistent option off the bench (If he ever gets there)

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Yeah, the game against Ignite was really disappointing for me in regards to Poole. Last year when he went down he became a facilitator and found a role within the offense. This first game he was not playing in the flow, he was hunting points and his shot was inconsistent. I get they haven'y had many practices. I still have hopes for him, but he is not nearly as far along as I thought might be at this point.

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I mean, you want to see him demonstrate his comfort in an offense where as you say they've barely practiced together. That's not reasonable! :)

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True, maybe it's not. But they do run the same offense as the big boys. I also agree with the Captain below that it's his decision making that's a little frustrating. But that is why he's down there. I will be at the Poole Party if he ever gets it all together.

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That said he had 22 points, so...

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Yeah, I'm just really judging him on his decision making. It's still not where we'd like it yet but that's exactly what the G-League is for. I'm rooting for him to find his place in the NBA and take over Wanamaker's role next year.

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Sometimes it's useful for players' development to go up against a "gatekeeper"—someone who's good enough to kind of hang at the next level but not actually strong enough to contend there. Gatekeepers can be a great measuring bar for up-and-coming guys looking to reach the next level.

So I salute the teams enabling the rest of the G-league's development by having guys like that on their side.

Also, it's probably not bad to have experienced major league pros to give the minor league guys some leadership?

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Yeah, I get it, but then running crunchtime through JJ and Brown seems counter-productive to what the G-League is supposed to be.

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They'd be better off as assistant coaches honestly if you want leadership. I do agree that some of the guys like Bobby Brown are a good example of the gatekeepers you were referring to. I don't know though, I think those dudes are too old to be playing. You already have your vets in guys like Jeremy Lin trying to regain respect around the league. Jarrett Jack is just an ancient being at this point that's better off in a suit on the bench than suited up

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JJ is 37 but it feels like he should be 50 by now for some reason.

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To be fair though he was cooking up those youngsters

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Feb 11, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Magic stats:

Offense:

28 in points scored (104.7)

28 in points in paint (41.2)

29 in fastbreak points (9.9)

28 in offensive efficiency

30 in shooting % (42.9%)

26 in three point % (34.5%)

30 in two point % (47.6%)

10 in off. rebound % ! (24.1%)

3 in def. rebound % !!!!!!!!!!!! (79.6%)

12 in total rebound % (50.5%)

21 in opponent blocks (5.6)

19 in opponent steals (7.8)

27 in assists (22.4)

7 in turnovers!!!!!!!! (13.7)

Defense:

19 in points allowed (112.0)

19 in opponent points in paint (47.4)

22 in opponent fastbreak points (13.3)

21 in defensive efficiency

22 in opponent shooting % (47.2%)

18 in opponent three point % (37.2%)

24 in opponent two point % (53.9%)

28 in blocks (4.0)

21 in steals (7.0)

21 in opponent assists (25.1)

23 in opponent turnovers (13.2)

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So.... they rebound well, and don't turn the ball over much. Other than that..... yikes.

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Well it was his birthday...

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Feb 11, 2021Liked by punk basketball

And 2Way Wiggs is #7 among front court players. Way to stuff that ballot box, Dub Nation!

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Should be. The Ws are on the short end of the talent pool in this one, but Green defending Durant should be interesting. No one really stops Durant, but I'm thinking Dray will have a trick or two up his sleeve.

As for Irving, I hope he takes more shots than Harden and Durant combined and that Steph still cooks him.

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God, he's gonna torch us sooooo bad

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Over under on FTA for KD?

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Yes, probably... but if you had to choose any 3-man combination to match up against KD-Harden-Kyrie, would there be a better option than Dray-Wiggins-Oubre?

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Some players are going to get theirs no matter what happens. KD is one of them. Warriors need to execute in order to win. Inconsistency is the main weakness of the team.

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It's impossible enough to guard KD in normal circumstances, but when he's 4 inches taller than anyone on your roster... uh, that's going to be a tough one.

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Curry has had a history of dropping game winners with KD present as an opponent I'm sure this one will end the same way

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Nets are weird. They are 7-1 against teams that currently have a .500 record or better, but they are also 8-11 against teams that have below .500 record.

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So since the Ws sometimes play like a team well-below .500, can we expect a win?

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4-1. Their lone loss was against the Cavaliers in Cleveland.

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