I appreciate all the comments on the HWFL question. I’ll go through the comments and do my best to parse out your actual answers to the specific question Well/Poorly/Don’tCare/Don’tKnow.
No for both. I like them both fine. But neither was with the Ws long enough, and both left of their own free will. I wish them well, but they are not Warriors for life -- not even honorary ones.
Who was the shortest tenured Warrior that left the biggest impact on the franchise? BD obviously comes to mind when it comes to on court production but I think guys like Shaun and D. West are very deserving of a mention too. Their presence/play really emphasized the Warrior's culture on and off the court.
No for both, not that I dislike either. Arenas was a good find in the second round, and he was exciting to watch, but he gets an Incomplete, not a W4L. Oubre is talented and a fine athlete, and I think he could have gotten over his tunnel vision. But one season that was a mixed bag (and begun with some of the worst shooting imaginable) is not enough. And while I have no problem with him moving on — he was UFA, after all — I wasn't keen on the way he handled it.
It feels really bad to say that I want Oubre not to do well... and it also feels bad to be the most petty bitter person on this board, but I guess that's me! I don't want him to fail, I just want him to realize that he's a role player not a star. Def not a warrior for life.
Arenas should have been an honorary warrior for life, but the cap rules screwed us over. No hard feelings, but he wasn't on the team long enough.
Oubre played horribly with us and still averaged 15 pts 6 reb 1 stl and 0.8 blk. I think he can become a really good player (maybe a step above role player). Just needs to work on that tunnel vision of his. I still would have loved him back. He was a great rebounder, defender and athlete which we need.
After reading the comments, I think I’ve zeroed in on a personal litmus test for W4L:
1. “Did the guy spend more years (including coaching) as a Warrior than any other team?”
2. “Do NBA fans in general think of him as a Warrior?”
Exceptions can be made (because this is my litmus test, that’s why, so f**k off), but if these questions are both answered “no”, then he’s not a Warrior for life to me.
Hell, I always loved watching the Brazilian Blur during his PHO days. I was very happy when he decided to come here and we won him one to end his career.
It happens man. I went through it myself twice. But on the second one, we are still a great team with taking care of my now six-year-old. It's definitely not the end of the world, but it's tough
Dell and Sonya have been together since college. It’s probably asking a lot to expect to evolve as people from your early 20’s to your 50’s and expect to continue to share enough of the same interests, goals and ways you want to spend time to want to stay together.
My first wife and I grew apart in 5 years and had an amicable breakup and remained successful partnership raising our son. My “new and improved” wife and I have been together 16 years. We met more as “grownups” and both had a good idea of what we wanted in life and in a partnership.
Yeah, my experience with it personally is my parents divorcing when I was an adult and married. That was traumatic for other reasons I am hoping are not a factor here (I discovered evidence of ongoing infidelity that was being kept secret by both parents from everyone else).
Oubre, played hard, can't begrudge him wanting to be a starter in a contract year....wish him well
Arenas, was fun to watch but had character issues, don't wish ill upon his game, but don't care seems a bit harsh, so more of just interested but not really rooting for/against
Don't think either of these guys deserve to be Warriors for life. Don't have anything against either guy but they simply didn't do enough in a Dubs uni and/or weren't here long enough to make a real impact.
My most recent memory of Arenas is him hastily backtracking the comments he made on the All the Smoke podcast regarding Kwame Brown because Kwame got mad at how Arenas and the hosts characterized him and Arenas 100% did not want any part of that smoke.
No to both.
Arenas probably more known as a Wizard.
And though he was helpful in moving the sticks, I just don't think that Oubre spent enough time here to rack up enough first downs.
I do want him to do well, though. And I'm looking forward to seeing who he matches up against when we play them.
I appreciate all the comments on the HWFL question. I’ll go through the comments and do my best to parse out your actual answers to the specific question Well/Poorly/Don’tCare/Don’tKnow.
No for both. I like them both fine. But neither was with the Ws long enough, and both left of their own free will. I wish them well, but they are not Warriors for life -- not even honorary ones.
Who was the shortest tenured Warrior that left the biggest impact on the franchise? BD obviously comes to mind when it comes to on court production but I think guys like Shaun and D. West are very deserving of a mention too. Their presence/play really emphasized the Warrior's culture on and off the court.
Kevin Durant
Webber?
I guess the original question didn't say it had to be a positive impact haha
David West is the one I thought of for shortest-tenured WFL.
Power outage in my area wheeeeee. Going on 45 minutes or so. Hope we don’t lose the fridge.
Restored…. yay
No for both, not that I dislike either. Arenas was a good find in the second round, and he was exciting to watch, but he gets an Incomplete, not a W4L. Oubre is talented and a fine athlete, and I think he could have gotten over his tunnel vision. But one season that was a mixed bag (and begun with some of the worst shooting imaginable) is not enough. And while I have no problem with him moving on — he was UFA, after all — I wasn't keen on the way he handled it.
It feels really bad to say that I want Oubre not to do well... and it also feels bad to be the most petty bitter person on this board, but I guess that's me! I don't want him to fail, I just want him to realize that he's a role player not a star. Def not a warrior for life.
Arenas should have been an honorary warrior for life, but the cap rules screwed us over. No hard feelings, but he wasn't on the team long enough.
Oubre played horribly with us and still averaged 15 pts 6 reb 1 stl and 0.8 blk. I think he can become a really good player (maybe a step above role player). Just needs to work on that tunnel vision of his. I still would have loved him back. He was a great rebounder, defender and athlete which we need.
He was showing signs of improved vision and passing skills before suffering thst final injury. A shame. Hope he finds success elsewhere.
After reading the comments, I think I’ve zeroed in on a personal litmus test for W4L:
1. “Did the guy spend more years (including coaching) as a Warrior than any other team?”
2. “Do NBA fans in general think of him as a Warrior?”
Exceptions can be made (because this is my litmus test, that’s why, so f**k off), but if these questions are both answered “no”, then he’s not a Warrior for life to me.
Where does a guy like Barbosa fall in your test?
Because “Shampionship”.
3. "Did he help us win a championship?"
Hell, I always loved watching the Brazilian Blur during his PHO days. I was very happy when he decided to come here and we won him one to end his career.
I am legit gutted by this, assuming it is true: https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/23/sonya-dell-curry-divorce-steph-golden-state-warriors/
Always sad to see two good people part ways. But I guess somethings in life aren’t meant to be forever.
It happens man. I went through it myself twice. But on the second one, we are still a great team with taking care of my now six-year-old. It's definitely not the end of the world, but it's tough
I'm about to go through the second one with a 6 yr old and an 8 yr old.
Sorry to hear, GAB
Thanks y’all. A long time coming and very friendly. Still tough.
Sorry brotha. But, so long as u both are there for them...thats all that matters now. Kiddos are resilient...
That sucks. Sorry to hear that
Dell and Sonya have been together since college. It’s probably asking a lot to expect to evolve as people from your early 20’s to your 50’s and expect to continue to share enough of the same interests, goals and ways you want to spend time to want to stay together.
My first wife and I grew apart in 5 years and had an amicable breakup and remained successful partnership raising our son. My “new and improved” wife and I have been together 16 years. We met more as “grownups” and both had a good idea of what we wanted in life and in a partnership.
Yeah, my experience with it personally is my parents divorcing when I was an adult and married. That was traumatic for other reasons I am hoping are not a factor here (I discovered evidence of ongoing infidelity that was being kept secret by both parents from everyone else).
It's always that way in hindsight, right?
Yep. Stayed living as "roommates" for almost 2 years myself 😂
id do anything for my babygirl 😊
Noooooooo!!!
Ooooof
Arenas before my time.
Oubre not really consequential enough.
Nah to both.
"Well" for Oubre (after all, I want him to fight his way out of the box), "Don't Care" for Arenas.
No to Wfl for both. Neither was here long enough or made enough positive impact while here for consideration.
+1
Oubre, played hard, can't begrudge him wanting to be a starter in a contract year....wish him well
Arenas, was fun to watch but had character issues, don't wish ill upon his game, but don't care seems a bit harsh, so more of just interested but not really rooting for/against
Don't think either of these guys deserve to be Warriors for life. Don't have anything against either guy but they simply didn't do enough in a Dubs uni and/or weren't here long enough to make a real impact.
My most recent memory of Arenas is him hastily backtracking the comments he made on the All the Smoke podcast regarding Kwame Brown because Kwame got mad at how Arenas and the hosts characterized him and Arenas 100% did not want any part of that smoke.
Nothing against KOJ but his tenure was too short and included lots of missed time. So, "don't care" for me.
Arenas: W4L!!! The JRich/Arenas duo was the best thing we had in a long time.
Don't want to confine Mister Oubre into any more boxes