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By the way, if you missed out on our previous full discussion of Monta, you can catch up here: https://dubnationhq.com/p/my-worst-take-the-warriors-should

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Aug 13, 2022·edited Aug 13, 2022

I wasn't watching NBA in the Monta era but it sounds like Ellis Island was the gateway to a lot of pre dynasty dubs fans

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I find this web site helpful to remember the difference between a straw man and other ways of filling up the Internet.

https://www.ucm.es/data/cont/docs/107-2016-02-17-Fallacious%20Arguments.pdf

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Weird random stat. Last year of Durant, maybe 1/4 to 1/3 into season, I glanced at Shot Attempts Per Game.

Curry 17.7

Durant 17.7

Klay 17.7

A fun statistical anomaly. But not as good as Klay missed 941 days due to injury and played exactly 941 minutes in the regular season last year. That stat is hypnotizing.

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Aug 12, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

If their is a Purple Heart wing in the HWFL, he should be in it. Like the soldiers who died on the beach of Normandy, his time as a Warrior was sacrificed to allow this Dynasty to establish a beachhead in the upper echelons of the Western Conference. Not to diminish his talent or playing career, I remember him more as a symbol of change. Monte Ellis was a pallbearer for the Chris Cohen Era, missing his ride back to the Church while Cohen's coffin of false hopes was delivered into the cold Wisconsin soil. Monte was an intersection, where the path of decades of fan abuse came across the Yellow & Blue Brick Road. He was a Warrior because he didn't resign himself to the colorless world of Cohen. He fought and he gave the fans the only thing he had: fearlessness in a losing battle. He was the last thing we loved that didn't make it onto the lifeboat. And for that, he shall be honored.

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If we get Hypnotized Klay for an entire season, the league really is doomed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpX1mK8QRaI

Those invisible strings will pull the basketball straight from his hands into the basket, no matter where he is.

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2022-23 NBA Win Totals as projected by Caesar's Sportbook today. Comments?

Team Wins

Celtics 54.5

Suns 53.5

Bucks 52.5

Warriors 52.5

Clippers 51.5

76ers 50.5

Grizzlies 50.5

Heat 50.5

Nuggets 49.5

Mavericks 48.5

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I was not among those who were sad or mad when Monta was traded for Bogut. I'll just leave it at that.

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I thought Jamison would've had at least one 25ppg season... but nope... peaked at 24.9

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Aug 12, 2022·edited Aug 12, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

My name is Asher B. And I approve this message.

Sure Monta had basketball and sort of personal or contractual weaknesses but when a guy on your team regularly torches other teams especially when he’s small and dynamic you just root for him like crazy.

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Aug 12, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

Gotta love the 2007 Rookie/Sophmore Game. Ellis and Lee dunks for days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8At2gmxgLpc

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Aug 12, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

I liked Monta for the first few years, but he lost me with the moped thing and with "I can't play in the same backcourt with him."

Contrast with Steph adapting his game as needed when KD arrived on the scene, leading the Ws to two championships.

I think of Monta as being a little too full of himself and not much of a team player. Definitely not WFL or even HWFL for me.

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Aug 12, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

I think with this inclusion into HWFL we can officially say that Monta Ellis finally have it all

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Aug 12, 2022·edited Aug 12, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

I'll admit to thinking that trading Ellis for Bogut was a bad move primarily due to being traumatized for life by the Erick Dampier experience. Let's trade a guy that can get 25pts/game for a big man that spends 1/2 his time in the trainer's room didn't seem like a light years ahead move. As it turned out, his time with the Warriors was the healthiest 3 year stint of Bogut's career since he was a rookie and Ellis was never as good for anybody else as he was for the Warriors.

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Aug 12, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

I had an irrational dislike for Monta when he was playing. I think it was his gambling for steals that really annoyed me, and then I kind of wrote him off after the moped incident. Could have been a decent bench player, but my God was he immature.

The irrational part of it is that he was miles the best offensive player we had, and was fun to watch, so it's not like he did nothing.

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