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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball, Daniel Hardee

One more thought on that game: How the heck has Trevor Arizza not been playing? He stone cold stopped Curry a few times and shot daggers.

The NBA’s culture of Agism is costing us true top level basketball. Horford shouldn’t be sitting. Arizza shouldn’t have lost 2 years.

Let’s see teams make players earn their playing time and free the vets!

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Use the damn G-League! Get all those G guys on the official roster if you have to. Make all rookies have to play in the G-League and televise it all. Make every team put up $$$ and have it go to the top 3 teams in a fantasy style payoff. Add a top 10 lottery slot for the G-League winner.

Use the darn league as it should be used so crappy NBA teams stop sabotaging the product. (That would help fix the buyout market issue too: which is really that crappy teams won’t play their best players.)

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Hard to trust any 4/1 reports but it looks like the Warriors finally got their cash minority sale?

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yeah, I've been looking all over for the original story about how they withdrew their earlier application but can't find it.

Anyways, here's hoping it deepens the pockets of ownership when it's time to pay out for talent.

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Amen 🙏

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Could not see it due to the damn "baseball" game.

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Oubre: Completely shriveled out there.

Wiseman: Not ready for primetime. Smailagic is closer.

Everybody else: pretty good effort.

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Smailagic is not closer.

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I think it was a joke?

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Quizas.

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by Daniel Hardee

The Heat definitely earned this game. Most of the turnovers were forced by Miami just playing really attentive, smart, tough defense. They weren't just screwball passes or moving screens like in some of our games. You can see where their offense leaves a little to be desired but it doesn't take much to tilt the balance in their favor. Steph's magic and some good games from other guys were almost enough to win it, but not quite.

Wiseman got some great rebounds but then he had tunnel vision trying to score immediately with a tough hook shot surrounded by dudes, rather than passing it out to an open teammate. Still, him actually securing the ball is growth, so I'll count that as a good thing.

Hoping the injuries are nothing much, because that's far more important than an individual loss.

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They staggered Dray and Curry. Was it to take advantage of how awesome Wiggins is with Draymond feeding him?

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I would love for dray to come out and play the whole second quarter with wiggins poole and wiseman, let looney, jta d dlee and oubre play with curry

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At the six minute mark

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They've been taking Dray out early before the end of the odd quarters and inserting him earlier in the even quarters for quite a few games now.

Not sure what the reasoning is.

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I think it's to minimize the time that you have a "no-Steph, no-Dray" lineup.

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The next phase is to let Wiseman rest more and not bring him in with Dray, instead making sure Wiggins is in early in the even quarters and let Dray feed Wiggins and Poole.

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Solid effort overall. I really wish they’d take the lesson from D’Antony and stop fouling when they get beat and just focus on inbound to offense as quickly as possible. Feels like the fouling is a habit that is hurting them because they don’t trust the defensive rotations in the starting lineup and it carries over all game. What about starting 5 guys that trust each other and subbing talented players through once the rhythm is set?

Wiseman had several offensive boards! Those usually turn into open Steph 3’s!

Oops Wiseman turned them into 2 points total by going seemingly 1 on 3 each time. He’s making progress. Playing way too rushed though, and only remembering he has teammates about once a game. Maybe Wiseman should target 10 boards and 5 assists with his minutes, and forget about scoring over around or through people, until he’s playing a team game by habit.

Wiggins seems to see the basket better from straight on to the elbow, not as good from the corner. Some folks need the backboard to judge the depth. Maybe his not corner 3 % was lower in Minn because he was doing so many bail out 3’s from there? Really good all round game from Wiggins.

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You're 100% right about the rebounding.

I mean on a night last tonight when his offense isn't there he should at least get more than 4 rebounds.

Heck, he needs to get more than 4 rebounds period.

I'm fine with him not knowing the system and it taking time to learn the offensive rhythms of the NBA. But in the meantime, clean the glass

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"Maybe Wiseman should target 10 boards and 5 assists with his minutes, and forget about scoring over around or through people".

Funny, but I see it exactly the opposite way. Make him a scorer because that is his natural tendency and the rest of the game will come around as he gets more PT and practice. The Warriors need scoring. I also want to see improvement in his rpg and apg, but scoring is the more vital stat for the team, at present. Oubre is not pulling his weight in many of these games. The only reliable scorers have been Steph and Wiggins. Glad to see Dray coming around, though. He has to focus more on scoring, too.

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Oubre has gone back to bad oubre all march, his good games were a result of his contested ten footers actually dropping

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It wasn't just that, he was shooting above 40% on threes for a good stretch of games.

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I can't see how you would think that. We are the 4th worse rebounding team in the league.

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Yes, we need rebounding but Wiseman doesn't provide that for us. He can provide more points than boards at his current development. He doesn't know how to play in the paint so I don't expect the boards. I am only suggesting this as a current pov not a long term plan for him. We need another big guy on this club in the meantime.

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Maybe make him a scorer in the G League first.

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Only if they get another big man to plug in. IMO, this is one of the weaknesses of the Warriors.

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Very true. Wiseman is taking the minutes that would normally go to a traditional, experienced, balanced big.

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by Daniel Hardee

A game like this entire season: enough things to take hope from, but enough things to rip one's hair out. For the sake of fairness, given as I am normally quite rough on him, Wiseman's OREBs were lovely. More of that, please.

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Let’s have some fun... have you noticed how disastrous was this game for Heat fans? First, the mascot broke the prize lcd tv, during one timeout fan game; then this romantic guy makes a kneeling proposal with ring to his girlfriend, she says yes, but from nowhere jumps in his ex (or his concubine?) who jumps at his throat.... honestly, if we’d won i’d have felt badly for them

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I think those were April Fool's jokes.

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Yeah, they replayed the proposal thing later on, which makes me think you’re right. Or they’re cLlous as hell, lol.

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Oof tough one. The losses are stacking up and more injuries now with both Poole and Looney rolling ankles...

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Speaking of injuries, it would be the right move to sit Steph tomorrow.

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Sitting probably hurts more than moving around. Landing probably hurts the most though.

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Was thinking this myself, him and dray tbh

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It's a possibility. Curry even said in his postgame that hes gonna just have to see how he feels on the morning

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

I wasn't able to watch this game, just saw the numbers and comments. I'm kinda hoping the final score is an April Fool's joke but I guess not. Am I imaging it or has Poole's shooting been erratic for the past three games or so? I think he's been under 40%, and I saw he shot 33% overall today but 50% from 3 so (again, did not see it), was he taking it to the rim against the wrong/too many defenders?

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Mannion was -8 in 1:26 and they lost by 7. That's brutal. Just wish we could have found out what would have happened if Poole and Looney hadn't gone down. Oh well.

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I don't think we can pin this on Mannion when Oubre and Wiseman were such train wrecks.

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I've accepted that Wiseman's mistakes are a built-in obstacle the team will have to overcome each game. Whereas Mannion is someone who I don't think the team should be prioritizing the development of, although I certainly get why he played last night.

Still though, from a general view I agree that the team would be much better if they had a better starting center. Top 4 seed or so imo. Guess we'll find out in the future if throwing another season away was worth it.

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I couldn't watch the 2nd half of the game. Why didn't Mannion play more?

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He wasn’t supposed to play at all it looked like but then Poole got hurt.

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Oubre's offensive numbers this season are really rough though.

Warriors ORTG when Oubre is on the court: 103.2

Warriors ORTG when Oubre is off: 117.3

Some of that is obviously Oubre playing a bit with the bench unit. But with a number that big I'm inclined to think there's some truth to the numbers. Him driving aimlessly into 3 defenders for a contested layup which is often blocked is painful to watch.

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I am now of the opinion that the Warriors should not retain him for next season. The financial liability will be too great for the return they get from him. He's an interesting project, but I don't think they can afford to work on him in hopes of making him great. With Klay returning, and the possible of assets of our picks, we should be on the hunt for a star. I don't see any star in this draft that stands out like the top 3 in the 2020 draft, Edwards, Wiseman, and Ball. While Wiseman in not really NBA ready yet, he will be in a few years with his unique size and athleticism. With all the talk about this being one of the deepest drafts in recent years, I am singularly unimpressed with the choices. It might be better to package what we've got and work to acquire a ready made NBA player(s). I invite posters to try and convince me that I am wrong in my assumption about this draft. They need to add a meaningful player to this mix for a real challenge for the ring and not someone exclusively for the future of this franchise. This will be a very tall order for the FO to fulfill.

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An NBA ready player comes with an NBA ready salary and with or without Oubre, the Warriors are above the cap. Rookies come with rookie contracts and you can always sign your draft picks (assuming they will sign for the rookie scale) regardless of your cap status. If the play is to go all in for next season, the best plan is probably to re-sign Oubre, hope that Thompson is 100% by January, and then trade Oubre for a position of need at that time. If they manage to draft a couple of promising rookies they might be part of a deal for an upgrade. Since I'm irrationally all in for Jessup, I'm willing to let Oubre walk.

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True, with or without his contract they are against the wall, but at least let's have a player who contributes to the overall game that the Warriors play. He doesn't execute with consistency. Wiggins in comparison, does execute and continues to improve. We haven't seen this with Oubre. We don't necessarily need an NBA star, but at least someone who can play in our scheme. I also like Jessup but have no idea if he is an answer for us. We need a paint minder, another ball handler, and shooter. If we could get that rolled up in one player, great, but that is a big ask. I don't see the draft supplying us with someone ready to be that guy or guys.

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Edit: 21pts and 4 rebounds for Jessup yesterday though his team got blown out.

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Really like Oubre a lot. He could function well in a lineup with Dray, Klay and Steph as a defender/rebounder occasional scorer. But he’s more limited offensively than Wigs, and I’m not sure he’ll accept the money and minute limitations associated with a bench role.

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I like him, too. But he is not contributing to wins.

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Basically everyone's ORTG comes down to: Was Steph on the court with them?

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Oubre starts and closes with Steph. He's had some great stretches, but tonight he was completely lost.

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I don't think oubre needs 35 minutes a night I would like jta to cut into his and bazes minutes

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Another game where we lost handily but the Curry without Wiseman lineup is positive.

Developmental season I suppose.

Oubre looks off in the past couple of games too. He's not as bad as early season Oubre but it's close. Maybe the trade deadline messed him up a bit (understandably so).

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It’s seems like he’s been off since the trade deadline. I wonder if there was something behind the scenes that has affected his play

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Being shopped around like he was is bound to mess with anyone's psyche.

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Yeah it could be a rhythm thing, but it could also be a pushing hard to put up big stats for a contract year thing. And if it's the second one, that's a shame.

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He’s looked sort of depressed ever since playing hurt then getting shopped.

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Yeah, it could just as easily be something the team handled badly, as something Oubre is handling badly... or anywhere in between. One of those things we can't really know from the outside, imo.

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball, Daniel Hardee

Everytime Iggy plays the Warriors, he looks like he's out to annihilate them, particularly Steph. That Iggy trey over Steph had me rolling and crying at the same time.

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True about this game, but last time we saw the Heat we had secret agent Andre throwing the game our way

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Man his defense on Steph was hella good

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Apr 2, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Notable stats:

Warriors:

Curry: (+2)

36 points 9/19 FGs 5/11 three pointers 13/13 FTs

11 rebounds (2 off.) 3 assists 3 turnovers

Green: (-9)

16 points 7/13 FGs 1/3 three pointers 1/1 FT

10 rebounds (3 off.) 8 assists 4 turnovers 4 steals

Wiggins: (-8)

23 points 7/16 FGs 5/11 three pointers 4/6 FTs

8 rebounds (1 off.) 4 assists 3 turnovers 3 blocks

Looney: (+2)

4 points 2/4 FGs 0/1 three pointer

4 rebounds (2 off.) 3 assists

Heat:

Butler: (+10)

22 points 7/13 FGs 1/3 three pointers 7/9 FTs

6 rebounds (1 off.) 8 assists 1 turnover 4 steals

Robinson: (+14)

21 points 8/15 FGs 4/11 three pointers 1/1 FT

4 rebounds 3 assists 1 block

Herro: (+8)

20 points 8/13 FGs 2/5 three pointers 2/2 FTs

4 rebounds (1 off.) 3 assists 2 steals 1 block

Adebayo: (+9)

19 points 5/13 FGs 9/9 FTs

8 rebounds (1 off.) 6 assists 3 turnovers 1 block

Ariza: (+6)

10 points 3/6 FGs 2/4 three pointers 2/2 FTs

4 rebounds 1 assist 2 blocks

Iguodala: (-4)

10 points 3/6 FGs 2/5 three pointers 2/2 FTs

6 rebounds (1 off.) 2 assists 3 turnovers 1 block

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