Big Draymond supporter. He has spoken about how he wants to set a better example for his kids. This aint it. Even if in some dysfunctional way this brings the team together, that punch was bullshit. Man, this is disappointing.
Draymond has had ample reason and opportunity to improve himself on this front. The passionate player excuse is worn out, he needs help, certainly has been provided help, but the behavior isn't changing. Time for the organization to change their approach or a jettisoning of the player.
It's probably also worth noting that Draymond is from Saginaw, and Poole is from Milwaukee... it's highly unlikely that this is the first punch that Draymond has ever thrown or that this is the first punch that Poole has ever been on the receiving end of.
Of course, this is very different as they are both adults and this is in a professional setting. However, we certainly all still have a good part of our childhood in us, and Draymond has certainly discussed having a rough upbringing. This isn't to condone the actions here (which I don't) but full context is always important.
Any true response to this should not just involve punishment (i.e., fines and suspensions) but needs to address the root cause going on here, which is clearly Draymond's occasional inability to keep his emotions in check. I hope the team pushes for mandatory therapy/anger management for Draymond. He needs to learn how to channel his emotions in a more constructive manner. You can be competitive without being combative.
If there have been long brewing issues between Jordan and Draymond then these should be addressed as well. Not just in a "you guys good? hug it out!" sort of way. Some sort of professional relationship therapist should also be involved here. They don't need to be besties, but they do need to be able to work together.
I guess the championship glow is officially gone now. LOL. SMH Dray.
Gonna be a long day of reaction videos and analysis from the national media, and going to be interesting to see how many of the folks who blew it off as "just stuff that happens in sports" change their minds. (I put myself in that group so not judging).
Well, I watched the video. It's terrible and there's no defense.
I think Poole lucked out a bit in that he was far enough away that Dray's full extension probably didn't have the full weight of the punch impacting. And it looks like Poole might have pulled away at the last moment. If They were just a few inches closer it could have been a lot worse.
None of that mitigates the severity of this, mind you. Just trying to figure out how Poole came out of it without worse injury.
If I was JP, I'd have a hell of a hard time even practicing after that incident, let alone being on the same team as Dray. This all boils down to whether the team is willing to accept the "personality-turned-baggage" that comes with Draymond. Me personally, I'm not sure anymore. From a basketball standpoint, JP is a miles-better investment than Green. From a human/morality perspective, Dray's actions are totally inexcusable and dulls the pain of losing him through free agency or trade.
> Fire whoever leaked that video. Got a whole bunch of mofos who can't be trusted. Everybody wrong. As soon as Dray start walking somebody supposed to get in front of him..looks like the video guys and support staff got more heart than some of then chumps on the sideline
New thread on Dray-Poole at https://dubnationhq.com/p/update-video-leaked-of-draymond-green?sd=pf
I hated to make a new thread as there are so many good comments here, but it's getting crowded here. If you are so moved, copy your comments over.
Big Draymond supporter. He has spoken about how he wants to set a better example for his kids. This aint it. Even if in some dysfunctional way this brings the team together, that punch was bullshit. Man, this is disappointing.
Just saw the video. Wow.
Also, fuck the video intern, but TMZ probably gave them life changing money idk
Draymond has had ample reason and opportunity to improve himself on this front. The passionate player excuse is worn out, he needs help, certainly has been provided help, but the behavior isn't changing. Time for the organization to change their approach or a jettisoning of the player.
Kerr and Myers kind of sus for making it seem like not a big deal, should have came down harder on draymond, theres no excuse for that n he gotta go
It's probably also worth noting that Draymond is from Saginaw, and Poole is from Milwaukee... it's highly unlikely that this is the first punch that Draymond has ever thrown or that this is the first punch that Poole has ever been on the receiving end of.
Of course, this is very different as they are both adults and this is in a professional setting. However, we certainly all still have a good part of our childhood in us, and Draymond has certainly discussed having a rough upbringing. This isn't to condone the actions here (which I don't) but full context is always important.
Any true response to this should not just involve punishment (i.e., fines and suspensions) but needs to address the root cause going on here, which is clearly Draymond's occasional inability to keep his emotions in check. I hope the team pushes for mandatory therapy/anger management for Draymond. He needs to learn how to channel his emotions in a more constructive manner. You can be competitive without being combative.
If there have been long brewing issues between Jordan and Draymond then these should be addressed as well. Not just in a "you guys good? hug it out!" sort of way. Some sort of professional relationship therapist should also be involved here. They don't need to be besties, but they do need to be able to work together.
That video mad me sad. Dray needs anger management counseling.
Trade
I think we have solved the problem of choosing who resign
I guess the championship glow is officially gone now. LOL. SMH Dray.
Gonna be a long day of reaction videos and analysis from the national media, and going to be interesting to see how many of the folks who blew it off as "just stuff that happens in sports" change their minds. (I put myself in that group so not judging).
Man, season started off with good vibes, now feels like we took a nosedive into mid-season 2019 Post-Draymond-KD incident.
Well, I watched the video. It's terrible and there's no defense.
I think Poole lucked out a bit in that he was far enough away that Dray's full extension probably didn't have the full weight of the punch impacting. And it looks like Poole might have pulled away at the last moment. If They were just a few inches closer it could have been a lot worse.
None of that mitigates the severity of this, mind you. Just trying to figure out how Poole came out of it without worse injury.
Draymond has a serious problem and I'm personally getting sick of his shit. I couldn't even blame Jordan for leaving at this point.
Damnit Dray....
If I was JP, I'd have a hell of a hard time even practicing after that incident, let alone being on the same team as Dray. This all boils down to whether the team is willing to accept the "personality-turned-baggage" that comes with Draymond. Me personally, I'm not sure anymore. From a basketball standpoint, JP is a miles-better investment than Green. From a human/morality perspective, Dray's actions are totally inexcusable and dulls the pain of losing him through free agency or trade.
Lmao, Dray's new podcast is premiering right now, and the first thing I hear him say is "It's better not to meet your hero."
> Fire whoever leaked that video. Got a whole bunch of mofos who can't be trusted. Everybody wrong. As soon as Dray start walking somebody supposed to get in front of him..looks like the video guys and support staff got more heart than some of then chumps on the sideline
https://twitter.com/D_West30/status/1578396184669917184
EDIT: This is David West if that's not clear.