If they void the complete trade, they will be worse for it because they will not save anything financially, nor gain in on court presence. Perhaps we don't know the full story, but Portland seems guilty of trying to pull a fast one regarding GPII's health. If GPII is that important to us, there is always next season. Same core, same die hard fans, same chance or maybe better to make a run at the ring. The team will definitely be better, no Wiseman to worry about, GPII healthy, and whatever holes in the roster need filling, hopefully will be filled. If someone else has a better read, I'm all ears.
"Of course, based on how this season has gone, Payton may not see the floor this year. Still, it might be worth the risk, considering there is now no way to add anyone nearly as good. Plus, if Payton ends up out this season, he has value for next season should the Warriors lose Donte DiVincenzo in free agency, which is likely the way he’s playing. And they would lower their tax bill this season by swapping Wiseman for Payton."
And from a comment
"I don’t understand how this does not get communicated from Gary, to his agent, and then to Bob, at some point during the process. EDIT: I just heard Slater say on 95.7 that Gary had no idea he was being traded until he was informed by the front office. So, it’s entirely on the front office, not the player."
For tomorrow night's game, I hope the Warriors are ready to defend the paint and score a lot of points in the paint. And for some reason, Lakers opponent three point %age is very low, but their three point %age is low as well.
Don't give me this Jokic shit, Giannis is completely the MVP. It's not particularly close. Jokic is a smidge better on offense but Giannis is twice the defender.
I don't think is possible to play at the highest physical level in the whole world if you are not healthy enough. For me this is the part of the whole situation which does not convince me at all
I can't shake this image of the Portland medics doing Pirate Surgery with a rusty saw: "Here's a bottle of whisky lad, now bite on this leather strap". Does GP-II have a hook or eye-patch now? Maybe everything will change again tomorrow.
The best option now, in my opinion, is to keep the trade. GPII might not play until this summer, but his presence on the bench would be as precious for morale and motivation, as it has been the presence of Iggy for experience and basketball competence. Hell, imagine how he could lift the hearts at Chase when we'll be fighting for playoffs! I say that is a net win over having there a quiet and sad seven footer.
I feel, in this evaluation clash between GSW and Blazers, there might be the lingering consequences of the '19 KD injury shock, that is a highly conservative behaviour by the Dub Medical Staff. Which I'm not entirely unhappy of.
After the deal was made, GPII said that he wasn't healthy. Part of the reason why he was glad to be back was because he preferred the Warriors medical staff to Portland's.
Getting flashbacks from December(?) with the Giants. Comments came fast and furious roasting the Giants. Then the Mets happened and the Giants looked to have made the right decision.
And after the Mets had the same issues with Correa, I’d be hesitant to just move forward and assume GP II will be ok (either this season or ever). That’d be the ultimate wasted roster spot. For two years beyond this season, yes? At least Wiseman could turn into something (or get traded for something more than a few second rounders).
Also, 428+ comments for an article about trading a bench warmer (albeit a No. 2 pick) for a two-way player that the Dubs cut (albeit one that blossomed into a rotation player on an LO’B team, and got a 3-year bag)?!? Never seen that, outside a game thread.
Indications are pointing to the Dubs keeping GP2 - I wonder how they will plan to solve our immediate problem - buy out market??
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/sources-warriors-interested-keeping-gary-payton-ii-despite-failed-physical
Also: I was disappointed to hear my sports talk radio station blame this fiasco on Bob Myers - I think the blazers have been disingenuous here
At this point I'd try to get a better deal but would not push it and keep GP2.
Bringing back Wiseman would be a bad look
If they void the complete trade, they will be worse for it because they will not save anything financially, nor gain in on court presence. Perhaps we don't know the full story, but Portland seems guilty of trying to pull a fast one regarding GPII's health. If GPII is that important to us, there is always next season. Same core, same die hard fans, same chance or maybe better to make a run at the ring. The team will definitely be better, no Wiseman to worry about, GPII healthy, and whatever holes in the roster need filling, hopefully will be filled. If someone else has a better read, I'm all ears.
WOW...this sucketh...frankly, I would opt for a deal void and a healthy JW back, and, let Kerr work him into the BIGS rotation...
Can you imagine just how many lawyers are gonna be billing hundreds of hours for the next 48 hours?
From The Athletic
"Of course, based on how this season has gone, Payton may not see the floor this year. Still, it might be worth the risk, considering there is now no way to add anyone nearly as good. Plus, if Payton ends up out this season, he has value for next season should the Warriors lose Donte DiVincenzo in free agency, which is likely the way he’s playing. And they would lower their tax bill this season by swapping Wiseman for Payton."
And from a comment
"I don’t understand how this does not get communicated from Gary, to his agent, and then to Bob, at some point during the process. EDIT: I just heard Slater say on 95.7 that Gary had no idea he was being traded until he was informed by the front office. So, it’s entirely on the front office, not the player."
For tomorrow night's game, I hope the Warriors are ready to defend the paint and score a lot of points in the paint. And for some reason, Lakers opponent three point %age is very low, but their three point %age is low as well.
Don't give me this Jokic shit, Giannis is completely the MVP. It's not particularly close. Jokic is a smidge better on offense but Giannis is twice the defender.
Gary Payton played against us two nights ago.
I don't think is possible to play at the highest physical level in the whole world if you are not healthy enough. For me this is the part of the whole situation which does not convince me at all
I can't shake this image of the Portland medics doing Pirate Surgery with a rusty saw: "Here's a bottle of whisky lad, now bite on this leather strap". Does GP-II have a hook or eye-patch now? Maybe everything will change again tomorrow.
The best option now, in my opinion, is to keep the trade. GPII might not play until this summer, but his presence on the bench would be as precious for morale and motivation, as it has been the presence of Iggy for experience and basketball competence. Hell, imagine how he could lift the hearts at Chase when we'll be fighting for playoffs! I say that is a net win over having there a quiet and sad seven footer.
Goodnight DNHQ - I'll check in for additional angst & uncertainty in the morning. [Technically, it is already morning in my world already, but..]
OMFG what a mess, and no good outcome for the Dubs this year. 😢
I feel, in this evaluation clash between GSW and Blazers, there might be the lingering consequences of the '19 KD injury shock, that is a highly conservative behaviour by the Dub Medical Staff. Which I'm not entirely unhappy of.
After the deal was made, GPII said that he wasn't healthy. Part of the reason why he was glad to be back was because he preferred the Warriors medical staff to Portland's.
https://i.redd.it/6ozaocx0zhha1.png
https://theathletic.com/4181357/2023/02/10/warriors-gary-payton-james-wiseman/ (Paywall alert)
Getting flashbacks from December(?) with the Giants. Comments came fast and furious roasting the Giants. Then the Mets happened and the Giants looked to have made the right decision.
And after the Mets had the same issues with Correa, I’d be hesitant to just move forward and assume GP II will be ok (either this season or ever). That’d be the ultimate wasted roster spot. For two years beyond this season, yes? At least Wiseman could turn into something (or get traded for something more than a few second rounders).
Also, 428+ comments for an article about trading a bench warmer (albeit a No. 2 pick) for a two-way player that the Dubs cut (albeit one that blossomed into a rotation player on an LO’B team, and got a 3-year bag)?!? Never seen that, outside a game thread.