Moody working on his small forward game in our system. He has the open 3s down, but would like to see him in a vet heavy lineup cutting more and exploring a pull up elbow 2. His 2pt% is awful, but I believe some of that is the ill-advised shots and drives he gets stuck with in 2nd unit lineups. To be a good small forward in our system, you need to hit open 3s, cut hard to the rim and have something reliable in between. Playing in a vet heavy rotation should create more of those opportunities for Moody and will allow Wiggins to lend more support to the 2nd unit.
At this point, if I was JK, I would be watching a bunch of GP2 tape. Attack defender, make the quick simple pass and be sneaky moving without the ball. GP2 was one of the sneakiest off-ball movers I have ever seen. It was like a magic act watching him pop up in the dunker's spot out of nowhere. And of course, rebound and run, run, and run. If we are missing anything this year, it's what GP2 brought, a unique skill set that was able to attach itself to the Warriors system. If JK would only stop thinking about scoring, the scoring would come.
Wiseman. Stop messing around. Steph & Dray need to learn how to work with Wiseman and get the most out of him. He is going to be a part of the franchise moving forward or he is not. In other words, he is going to play well with Steph and Dray or he is not. So, play them. If Steph-Klay-Wiggs-Dray can't carry a young Wiseman, if that group plays together and has a negative +/--, is that on Wiseman? That's 3 HoFers, 4 All-Star starters. You saying y'all can't make music with one weak link in the rotation? They will never develop together without playing together and there is no better way for Wise to learn than to learn from the masters in real time, especially on the defensive side. Just sayin'. It's still the regular season. It ain't Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals.
Of the three, Wiseman has the most potential upside for the post-season. (I'm saying this because we pretty much know what to expect from Moody and JK hasn't carved out a specific role.) I would like to push him and just make sure he gets equal playing time between vet heavy and youth heavy rotations.
Today is the deadline for picking up rookie contract 3rd/4th year options. I expect all of Moody, Kuminga, and Wiseman will have their options picked up.
In the 2020-2021 season, rookie option decisions were due on the 29th of December due to the COVID season timeline impact. Poole had played 18, 19, 14, and 10 minutes in his first 4 games of that season before the option decision was made. Right after his fourth game the Warriors made the decision to extend him and then he only played any real minutes in blowouts until January 30th against the Pistons (which might have been the organization throwing him a bone as he went to the G-League bubble right after that game). Of course, when Poole came back from the bubble he started playing a lot because he had showed improvement and earned it.
I wouldn't bet on this happening for Wiseman for a few reasons, but it will be interesting to see if the Warriors handle anything differently with Wiseman (or Moody or Kuminga) after the rookie option decision deadline passes.
Wise needs reps… and he seems like a humble kid. I wouldn’t be too surprised if he hits the G League for a bit… but it’s prob not happening. Didn’t Poole ask to go to G League his second year?
I don't doubt that the Warriors will pick up the options on all three players but given the events of the last couple of games while it may not be time to panic, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to use that 15th roster spot to sign a backup center and send Wiseman down to the G-league to get minutes and coaching. Cousins and Whiteside are still hanging around unsigned and they both have limitations but they are both probably better than Wiseman right now. Are either of them in game shape and worth $12m or so that it would cost? Beats me.
I think the easiest way to think about this start is imagine the championship never happened. The Dubs competed in the playoffs but didn't have the depth and health to advance past the second round. Now they're cobbling a new team together for a new run. We would expect growing pains and learning as all the new guys learn the system and learn how to mesh together as a team. And that's exactly what we're seeing.
We're just spoiled fans who always expect our team to dominate the league and competition.
At the risk of sounding hopelessly naive, I think we'll be OK.
I know Wiseman's defense sucks, but honestly, back in May, did you even think he would be this good this fast?
Moody is firmly in the rotation.
Poole is back to his usual 'my face has more moves than your entire team' dance.
JMG has been pretty good.
Ty Jerome looks like he's the 3rd string point guard we always wished we had.
Lamb looks playable.
Kuminga's and Wiseman's fit is getting sorted out, but did we seriously think there wouldn't be at least a couple of big issues to start the season?
Once we get back from this godawful road trip, even if we're 3-7, I think things will start to look better in 2-3 weeks. For one thing, they will be able to squeeze in a practice here and there and start fixing things.
I think we should be a tiny fraction as concerned as we should have been late last season when the team went 7-16 (much worse record in a much bigger sample of games).
Or: 25% as concerned as Celtics fans should have been last season when the team started out 18-21.
yeah, gotta remember we have at least 25 losses on the schedule. just have to roll with them. it's a long season and I can say with confidence that the Dubs won't get off to an 18-2 start like last year. lol
Kuminga was decent defensively had 3 assists and some nice passes. he needs to find the balance of playing in the offense and still utilizing his strengths however
OF COURSE we’re missing Mike Brown. He’s a pretty highly regarded defensive coach and Kerr said he was vital many times. Defense is apparently more than just Draymond yelling teammates into position.
The defense just isn’t there… but it somehow feels like Poole is getting better on that side of the ball, right? And Moody is definitely a playable 3&D guy. Just need them to learn some cohesion so they’re not slowing down to think as much. But the point of attack defense is generally rough…
Yeah, he’s not a plus defender, but he’s also not getting as lost as before, his rotations are a beat behind instead of several beats…
Dray has always been a freelancer covering for people… he needs to know how to trust to do that job, and when it goes sideways, he’s going to look it out position. He doesn’t have the trust level yet…
Yeah, I have no idea what Dray is wanting to happen on the weak side there… Poole has to stay low to stay with his man, Wise should stick with the rim runner, Kuminga has another rim runner on his side, so he can’t slide over to take ball. The shot to leave open is (unfortunately) the wide open above the break 3. It’s a 5-on-4 break… something’s gotta be given up.
Things I would like to see more of.
Moody working on his small forward game in our system. He has the open 3s down, but would like to see him in a vet heavy lineup cutting more and exploring a pull up elbow 2. His 2pt% is awful, but I believe some of that is the ill-advised shots and drives he gets stuck with in 2nd unit lineups. To be a good small forward in our system, you need to hit open 3s, cut hard to the rim and have something reliable in between. Playing in a vet heavy rotation should create more of those opportunities for Moody and will allow Wiggins to lend more support to the 2nd unit.
At this point, if I was JK, I would be watching a bunch of GP2 tape. Attack defender, make the quick simple pass and be sneaky moving without the ball. GP2 was one of the sneakiest off-ball movers I have ever seen. It was like a magic act watching him pop up in the dunker's spot out of nowhere. And of course, rebound and run, run, and run. If we are missing anything this year, it's what GP2 brought, a unique skill set that was able to attach itself to the Warriors system. If JK would only stop thinking about scoring, the scoring would come.
Wiseman. Stop messing around. Steph & Dray need to learn how to work with Wiseman and get the most out of him. He is going to be a part of the franchise moving forward or he is not. In other words, he is going to play well with Steph and Dray or he is not. So, play them. If Steph-Klay-Wiggs-Dray can't carry a young Wiseman, if that group plays together and has a negative +/--, is that on Wiseman? That's 3 HoFers, 4 All-Star starters. You saying y'all can't make music with one weak link in the rotation? They will never develop together without playing together and there is no better way for Wise to learn than to learn from the masters in real time, especially on the defensive side. Just sayin'. It's still the regular season. It ain't Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals.
Of the three, Wiseman has the most potential upside for the post-season. (I'm saying this because we pretty much know what to expect from Moody and JK hasn't carved out a specific role.) I would like to push him and just make sure he gets equal playing time between vet heavy and youth heavy rotations.
Cup of Dubs 2022/23 basketball. Half full or half empty? Everyone gets to choose.
Half full. When they could solve their issues on defense they will be ok.
Today is the deadline for picking up rookie contract 3rd/4th year options. I expect all of Moody, Kuminga, and Wiseman will have their options picked up.
In the 2020-2021 season, rookie option decisions were due on the 29th of December due to the COVID season timeline impact. Poole had played 18, 19, 14, and 10 minutes in his first 4 games of that season before the option decision was made. Right after his fourth game the Warriors made the decision to extend him and then he only played any real minutes in blowouts until January 30th against the Pistons (which might have been the organization throwing him a bone as he went to the G-League bubble right after that game). Of course, when Poole came back from the bubble he started playing a lot because he had showed improvement and earned it.
I wouldn't bet on this happening for Wiseman for a few reasons, but it will be interesting to see if the Warriors handle anything differently with Wiseman (or Moody or Kuminga) after the rookie option decision deadline passes.
Wise needs reps… and he seems like a humble kid. I wouldn’t be too surprised if he hits the G League for a bit… but it’s prob not happening. Didn’t Poole ask to go to G League his second year?
I don't doubt that the Warriors will pick up the options on all three players but given the events of the last couple of games while it may not be time to panic, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to use that 15th roster spot to sign a backup center and send Wiseman down to the G-league to get minutes and coaching. Cousins and Whiteside are still hanging around unsigned and they both have limitations but they are both probably better than Wiseman right now. Are either of them in game shape and worth $12m or so that it would cost? Beats me.
Of those I think Whiteside is the better defender and less of a potential problem behavior-wise than Cousins.
I think the easiest way to think about this start is imagine the championship never happened. The Dubs competed in the playoffs but didn't have the depth and health to advance past the second round. Now they're cobbling a new team together for a new run. We would expect growing pains and learning as all the new guys learn the system and learn how to mesh together as a team. And that's exactly what we're seeing.
We're just spoiled fans who always expect our team to dominate the league and competition.
At the risk of sounding hopelessly naive, I think we'll be OK.
I know Wiseman's defense sucks, but honestly, back in May, did you even think he would be this good this fast?
Moody is firmly in the rotation.
Poole is back to his usual 'my face has more moves than your entire team' dance.
JMG has been pretty good.
Ty Jerome looks like he's the 3rd string point guard we always wished we had.
Lamb looks playable.
Kuminga's and Wiseman's fit is getting sorted out, but did we seriously think there wouldn't be at least a couple of big issues to start the season?
Once we get back from this godawful road trip, even if we're 3-7, I think things will start to look better in 2-3 weeks. For one thing, they will be able to squeeze in a practice here and there and start fixing things.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-has-never-opened-a-season-on-this-kind-of-scoring-binge-and-the-warriors-will-be-just-fine/amp/
That article is pure copium. If anything the fact that the Warriors are 3-4 despite this Curry streak should be all the more reason to be concerned.
I think we should be a tiny fraction as concerned as we should have been late last season when the team went 7-16 (much worse record in a much bigger sample of games).
Or: 25% as concerned as Celtics fans should have been last season when the team started out 18-21.
Disagree
The three consensus Western Conference favorites have all scuffled out of the gate:
DEN 4-3 (incl. losses to UTA, POR, LAL)
GS 3-4 (incl. losses to DET & CHA)
LAC 2-4 (incl. B2B losses to OKC)
Phoenix looking pretty great so far, but I don’t fear them.
yeah, gotta remember we have at least 25 losses on the schedule. just have to roll with them. it's a long season and I can say with confidence that the Dubs won't get off to an 18-2 start like last year. lol
you don't have to say with confidence lol. it's already happened. more losses in 7 games than 24
Kuminga was decent defensively had 3 assists and some nice passes. he needs to find the balance of playing in the offense and still utilizing his strengths however
Someone said it below, and it struck me.
OF COURSE we’re missing Mike Brown. He’s a pretty highly regarded defensive coach and Kerr said he was vital many times. Defense is apparently more than just Draymond yelling teammates into position.
10/28- Magic beat the Hornets to earn their first win of the season.
10/29- Kings beat the Heat to earn their first win of the season.
10/30- Lakers beat the Nuggets to earn their first win of the season.
Lakers beat the Nuggets 121-110 and earn their first win of the season.
Looks like the Lakers will win tonight.
Wow. Lakers are lighting up from beyond the arc. They are 13/28 threes tonight so far.
regression to the mean. The mean, in this case, is the worst shooting team in the league, but still better than they've shot all season.
The defense just isn’t there… but it somehow feels like Poole is getting better on that side of the ball, right? And Moody is definitely a playable 3&D guy. Just need them to learn some cohesion so they’re not slowing down to think as much. But the point of attack defense is generally rough…
What's Weatherspoon up to these days
Yeah, he’s not a plus defender, but he’s also not getting as lost as before, his rotations are a beat behind instead of several beats…
Dray has always been a freelancer covering for people… he needs to know how to trust to do that job, and when it goes sideways, he’s going to look it out position. He doesn’t have the trust level yet…
Exhibit A:
https://twitter.com/_itskellyo/status/1586880344216817666
Yeah, I have no idea what Dray is wanting to happen on the weak side there… Poole has to stay low to stay with his man, Wise should stick with the rim runner, Kuminga has another rim runner on his side, so he can’t slide over to take ball. The shot to leave open is (unfortunately) the wide open above the break 3. It’s a 5-on-4 break… something’s gotta be given up.
Poole actually waived draymond off from setting a screen when he hit that stepback, it was actually pretty funny lol
At least DLo lost.
Nuggets seem to be having trouble dealing with the Lakers.