3D, do you consider another big man as a need for the Dubs? With all the talk about the big guy being obsolete, aren't we seeing a resurgence in high scoring, high rebounding big guys in the league? Embiid is one of them. Seems like a good thing to have and Looney and Wiseman are not that. I like the smartness and trickiness of Bjelica but he is not one of those big, feared guys. Maybe if he got more minutes and was told to be more of a rim protector he could serve as a paint presence but that would detract from his open court game. I, for one, am all for going after another big guy. I don't see much help from Wiseman this season and he will need a lengthy stretch of playing time to be anywhere near a high scoring high rebounding type player. At best, at least a couple years out if all goes well. Plus, we've got to adjust the Dubs to Klay's return and re-slotting Iggy when he comes back. Warriors have work to do and they are not going to change the way they play for Wiseman. I do like Kuminga but rawness will only get you a Sean Kemp-like career. Kuminga seems to have learned nothing yet. I can't see any improvement in his game. He may be one of those that are uncoachable and will always rely on his size and athleticism and the brute force of his game. His shooting is atrocious.
I’m so hyped for this game it’s difficult to wait an hour! In other news, I broke my bank account for tickets to the Warriors v Bulls game in January. My only worry? Steph or Klay won’t play after the Bucks game the night before.
I never took Ray for being a salty guy...I was only able to watch the first 30 seconds before I hit my daily recommended sodium intake. C'mon Ray. But I guess it's hard to blame a guy for being confident when he played a role named "Jesus".
I can totally understand a team not wanting to be the one which allows Steph to break the record, and especially understand the player not wanting to go down in history as the one who failed to guard Steph and allowed him to pop in multiple 3's to break the record.
Maybe fans wont care, but the players themselves will get ribbed in their barbershop (and in their bedroom) if Steph has a good game against them while setting the all time record. Especially, when it is a home game and he scores more than maybe 3-4 3's in the game.
I think they would even suit up Ben if they could just to have Step. score on him if they could get away with it. Then his headcase claim would have merit.
No way to stop Steph from the record. Teams don't care about trivia like this. They play their game and in most cases, it is not as good as the Warriors game.
I think good prideful defenders not only hate the idea of ten threes dropped against them, but personally resent *any* scores on them. Draymond often seems to take a score as a deep failure of the defense and time to yell at a ref or reorganize the whole team.
Your barbershop scenario is plausible. I can see players ribbing each other for a bit, though I honestly can't imagine too long for a career record like this. Who did Ray Allen break the record against? Who did Reggie break the record against? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? In that interview with Ray Allen, I didn't hear one mention of the other team or the guy who was guarding him.
I do think it would be hilarious for this to be Ben Simmons' first game back. The Curry Stopper (TM)! And the Steph would go nova and roast him slowly over an open fire....
Eh, it’ll be one of almost 3,000 threes by the almost unanimously recognized greatest shooter of all time. Hope to make him take a few more shots at it and you’ll boast a out it to your kids and grandkids years later.
I like how Steph is breaking the season down into thirds. He is my role model so I am going to evaluate my own performance that way, too.
In the first third -- I'm now realizing -- my Dub HQ posting game focused too much on pointless diatribes. I lost focus due to a shorter preseason with to an ongoing hangnail issue (still lingering). I confidently predicted in my head that -- although I was optimistic -- no doubt without Klay the Warriors would struggle and have a .500 record. First trimester grade: pass.
For the second trimester, I like the phrase that Klay is the elephant in the room and want to know what animal in the room that makes Wiseman. Rhino? Gazelle? Anteater? I'm hoping to resolve this upon his return. I'm also predicting -- mark my words, you heard it here first -- that at some point in the second trimester, Stephen Curry will break the ALL-TIME record for most threes in a career. I stand by that. You want to argue? Let's go. I guess I'm doing that thing where Stephen A. Loudmouth yells that Steph is "The greatest shooter that God ever created, a sniper, a marksman" -- and everyone with any basketball knowledge goes "Yeah, yeah, we not only know that, but you've said it a million times that exact way."
Third trimester: I'm working on planning the parade route.
Going to be tough for Steph to break the record tonight especially with a competent team like Philly. I don't think any one wants to be on that end of the books so they'll probably sell out all the way to a point where they'd rather have Looney get wide open dunks than Steph shooting a 3. It'll work to our advantage. I think Steph hits 3-4 today, another 3 in IND and will break it at MSG like it was foretold.
Color me surprised at how much teams don't want to be on the other end of his breaking the record. In general, when I think of records being broken and such, I can barely remember who the opponent was. Especially for a career record like total points scored or three-point baskets, why does it matter who it happens against?
It's different when it's one spectacular play -- Baron Davis dunking over Andrei Kirilenko, John Starks over MJ, or even Wiggins jamming it on Karl-Anthony Towns' head (though that wasn't a very big game). Then it's both memorable AND a little personal. But career threes -- really?
Well, chances are, if Steph hit 10+ threes today the sixers are also getting blown out in their own building. That a perfectly reasonable thing to take personally, so they go hand in hand. If he needs 2 to set the record in NY I doubt the Knicks get too worked up about it.
I'd also include Curry's bang-bang three to vanquish OKC. That's just a spectacular play, and it was even more so at the time due to it being unimaginable. Nowadays, fans love to see Steph do that stuff and think it could happen at any moment.
Let's not forget, Curry can still tie the record in one arena and break it in another. Highly unlikely, considering it would be a big THUD from an entertainment standpoint in both arenas. NO way Curry allows that to happen.
The thing is Ray Allen has already lost the battle. Already and for the rest of time, even if Curry (GodForbid!!!) never hits another 3, the conversation will always include "except for Curry, blah blah blah." Ray Allen will never escape that. So put him out of his misery Steph, soonest.
Agree. I found Allen's interview (with Dan Patrick, I think?) kind of sad. Yeah, they played in different eras, different expectations, different defenses, etc. And no matter what happens with Steph, Allen will go down as an all-time great shooter.
But dude -- there's a reason why the game is played differently now. It's not like Curry showed up, and everyone was already shooting from the logo and he was just better at it. He basically INVENTED that as a legit way to play. And beyond his impact on the game, the statistics don't lie. It's just insane.
Was Allen ever guarded by 4 guys simultaneously? Double teamed any time the ball was in his hands? Did a defender ever leave a player with the ball headed straight for a layup to guard guard Allen at the 3-point line instead? Dude. Pass the torch already.
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“Curry broke down the coming season into three parts: “the beginning of the year until Klay gets back,” followed by the period of reintegrating Klay, then he hopes a deep playoff run.”
Part 1: Went really well
Part 2 Will be really interesting
Part 3: The last time Steph, Dray and Klay lost a playoff series where they all played the whole series was May 3, 2014
Oh Snap! Exactly the thing that was lost on all Media for the last several years> the Curry-Klay-Dray trio. From the moment we got KD, everyone forgot what made the Warriors so special: the Unique combination of skill sets and chemistry between these 3 players that broke the code. Curry and Dray can take this ship up into the upper atmosphere, but Klay is the booster rocket that puts them into orbit. Ground Control to Major Tom, commencing countdown Klay is on.
And thanks for the Looney support. That dude is a soldier. Loon and Green have been holding down the Center rotation for 45 games, with a record like 36-9. How in the world could anyone criticize that?
Especially in the context of past Warriors teams Bogut, good screener, passer and rim protector, not mobile enough in the playoffs. Zaza, Bogut lite, D West, not a great defender, but a good screener and passer and could hit a mid range 2. The Warriors never had a center like Embiid or Jokic that was also a primary scoring option and they did ok.
Some have fretted over the fact that the rooks haven't gotten much playing time. Last year when Klay got hurt, Warriors had to burn their season plan and they never managed get another in place. This year, they have mapped out a plan which so far has worked to perfection. There has always been a plan for the rooks to get minutes and it's coming. They should all play a key role in keeping vets rested and injecting spirit into games during the dog days. I believe the plan is that Wise, JK & Mood, come playoff time, can all make a contribute at a Patrick McCaw level AT MINIMUM. Anything above that is icing on the cake. Of course, we all expect more, but all Kerr wants is to look down the bench and know he can call anyone's number and get a good 4-6 minute stint on the floor. So, fingers crossed, I'm hoping we start to see these real minutes materialize on the road trip.
Game thread is up. https://dubnationhq.com/p/game-thread-warriors-at-76ers
3D, do you consider another big man as a need for the Dubs? With all the talk about the big guy being obsolete, aren't we seeing a resurgence in high scoring, high rebounding big guys in the league? Embiid is one of them. Seems like a good thing to have and Looney and Wiseman are not that. I like the smartness and trickiness of Bjelica but he is not one of those big, feared guys. Maybe if he got more minutes and was told to be more of a rim protector he could serve as a paint presence but that would detract from his open court game. I, for one, am all for going after another big guy. I don't see much help from Wiseman this season and he will need a lengthy stretch of playing time to be anywhere near a high scoring high rebounding type player. At best, at least a couple years out if all goes well. Plus, we've got to adjust the Dubs to Klay's return and re-slotting Iggy when he comes back. Warriors have work to do and they are not going to change the way they play for Wiseman. I do like Kuminga but rawness will only get you a Sean Kemp-like career. Kuminga seems to have learned nothing yet. I can't see any improvement in his game. He may be one of those that are uncoachable and will always rely on his size and athleticism and the brute force of his game. His shooting is atrocious.
I’m so hyped for this game it’s difficult to wait an hour! In other news, I broke my bank account for tickets to the Warriors v Bulls game in January. My only worry? Steph or Klay won’t play after the Bucks game the night before.
I never took Ray for being a salty guy...I was only able to watch the first 30 seconds before I hit my daily recommended sodium intake. C'mon Ray. But I guess it's hard to blame a guy for being confident when he played a role named "Jesus".
76ers stats:
Offense:
18 in points scored (106.7)
21 in points in paint (43.8)
13 in fastbreak points (12.4)
10 in offensive efficiency!!
15 in shooting % (45.8%)
12 in three point % (35.4%)
16 in two point % (52.1%)
28 in off. rebound % (19.7%)
26 in def. rebound % (75.8%)
28 in total rebound % (48.0%)
12 in opponent blocks (4.8)
1 in opponent steals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (6.6)
22 in assists (22.5)
3 in turnovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (12.6)
Defense:
13 in points allowed (106.4)
17 in opponent points in paint (46.2)
28 in opponent fastbreak points (14.6)
18 in defensive efficiency
17 in opponent shooting % (45.1%)
20 in opponent three point % (35.6%)
9 in opponent two point % !!!! (51.0%)
3 in blocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (5.9)
11 in steals (8.0)
13 in opponent assists (23.4)
23 in opponent turnovers (13.5)
> 20 in opponent three point % (35.6%)
😈😈😈
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32825596/nba-players-coaches-share-their-favorite-steph-curry-moments-got-greatest-show-ever?platform=amp
Thanks for the link. Great story.
I can totally understand a team not wanting to be the one which allows Steph to break the record, and especially understand the player not wanting to go down in history as the one who failed to guard Steph and allowed him to pop in multiple 3's to break the record.
Maybe fans wont care, but the players themselves will get ribbed in their barbershop (and in their bedroom) if Steph has a good game against them while setting the all time record. Especially, when it is a home game and he scores more than maybe 3-4 3's in the game.
I think they would even suit up Ben if they could just to have Step. score on him if they could get away with it. Then his headcase claim would have merit.
No way to stop Steph from the record. Teams don't care about trivia like this. They play their game and in most cases, it is not as good as the Warriors game.
I think teams are much more bothered about giving up single-game records then they are career cumulative records like what Steph is approaching.
I think good prideful defenders not only hate the idea of ten threes dropped against them, but personally resent *any* scores on them. Draymond often seems to take a score as a deep failure of the defense and time to yell at a ref or reorganize the whole team.
Dray resents when it’s bad defense. If it’s good defense and the player just scores, he’ll slap his ands together and move on.
Your barbershop scenario is plausible. I can see players ribbing each other for a bit, though I honestly can't imagine too long for a career record like this. Who did Ray Allen break the record against? Who did Reggie break the record against? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? In that interview with Ray Allen, I didn't hear one mention of the other team or the guy who was guarding him.
I do think it would be hilarious for this to be Ben Simmons' first game back. The Curry Stopper (TM)! And the Steph would go nova and roast him slowly over an open fire....
If Steph hit #10 with his brother in his face, I'm sure it would remain a memory for some time.
A good one for both of them. After all, they are blood.
Eh, it’ll be one of almost 3,000 threes by the almost unanimously recognized greatest shooter of all time. Hope to make him take a few more shots at it and you’ll boast a out it to your kids and grandkids years later.
I like how Steph is breaking the season down into thirds. He is my role model so I am going to evaluate my own performance that way, too.
In the first third -- I'm now realizing -- my Dub HQ posting game focused too much on pointless diatribes. I lost focus due to a shorter preseason with to an ongoing hangnail issue (still lingering). I confidently predicted in my head that -- although I was optimistic -- no doubt without Klay the Warriors would struggle and have a .500 record. First trimester grade: pass.
For the second trimester, I like the phrase that Klay is the elephant in the room and want to know what animal in the room that makes Wiseman. Rhino? Gazelle? Anteater? I'm hoping to resolve this upon his return. I'm also predicting -- mark my words, you heard it here first -- that at some point in the second trimester, Stephen Curry will break the ALL-TIME record for most threes in a career. I stand by that. You want to argue? Let's go. I guess I'm doing that thing where Stephen A. Loudmouth yells that Steph is "The greatest shooter that God ever created, a sniper, a marksman" -- and everyone with any basketball knowledge goes "Yeah, yeah, we not only know that, but you've said it a million times that exact way."
Third trimester: I'm working on planning the parade route.
Let's have some more xwords.
Wasn't sure if people actually liked/did the last one... wonder how many customers i'd have.
It was fun for me, can't speak for others.
Going to be tough for Steph to break the record tonight especially with a competent team like Philly. I don't think any one wants to be on that end of the books so they'll probably sell out all the way to a point where they'd rather have Looney get wide open dunks than Steph shooting a 3. It'll work to our advantage. I think Steph hits 3-4 today, another 3 in IND and will break it at MSG like it was foretold.
Color me surprised at how much teams don't want to be on the other end of his breaking the record. In general, when I think of records being broken and such, I can barely remember who the opponent was. Especially for a career record like total points scored or three-point baskets, why does it matter who it happens against?
It's different when it's one spectacular play -- Baron Davis dunking over Andrei Kirilenko, John Starks over MJ, or even Wiggins jamming it on Karl-Anthony Towns' head (though that wasn't a very big game). Then it's both memorable AND a little personal. But career threes -- really?
Well, chances are, if Steph hit 10+ threes today the sixers are also getting blown out in their own building. That a perfectly reasonable thing to take personally, so they go hand in hand. If he needs 2 to set the record in NY I doubt the Knicks get too worked up about it.
I'd also include Curry's bang-bang three to vanquish OKC. That's just a spectacular play, and it was even more so at the time due to it being unimaginable. Nowadays, fans love to see Steph do that stuff and think it could happen at any moment.
I want Indy, personally
Let's not forget, Curry can still tie the record in one arena and break it in another. Highly unlikely, considering it would be a big THUD from an entertainment standpoint in both arenas. NO way Curry allows that to happen.
The thing is Ray Allen has already lost the battle. Already and for the rest of time, even if Curry (GodForbid!!!) never hits another 3, the conversation will always include "except for Curry, blah blah blah." Ray Allen will never escape that. So put him out of his misery Steph, soonest.
Agree. I found Allen's interview (with Dan Patrick, I think?) kind of sad. Yeah, they played in different eras, different expectations, different defenses, etc. And no matter what happens with Steph, Allen will go down as an all-time great shooter.
But dude -- there's a reason why the game is played differently now. It's not like Curry showed up, and everyone was already shooting from the logo and he was just better at it. He basically INVENTED that as a legit way to play. And beyond his impact on the game, the statistics don't lie. It's just insane.
Was Allen ever guarded by 4 guys simultaneously? Double teamed any time the ball was in his hands? Did a defender ever leave a player with the ball headed straight for a layup to guard guard Allen at the 3-point line instead? Dude. Pass the torch already.
“Curry broke down the coming season into three parts: “the beginning of the year until Klay gets back,” followed by the period of reintegrating Klay, then he hopes a deep playoff run.”
Part 1: Went really well
Part 2 Will be really interesting
Part 3: The last time Steph, Dray and Klay lost a playoff series where they all played the whole series was May 3, 2014
Klay has been to 5 straight finals
Oh Snap! Exactly the thing that was lost on all Media for the last several years> the Curry-Klay-Dray trio. From the moment we got KD, everyone forgot what made the Warriors so special: the Unique combination of skill sets and chemistry between these 3 players that broke the code. Curry and Dray can take this ship up into the upper atmosphere, but Klay is the booster rocket that puts them into orbit. Ground Control to Major Tom, commencing countdown Klay is on.
Curry hit 10 3’s and dropped 49 in Philly last April. Would be delicious to see a repeat tonight.
I'll be at the game tonight, so I'm all in for that. My first live game since 1988 or so. Warriors-Knicks in Oakland.
Enjoy! I almost went myself tonight.
And thanks for the Looney support. That dude is a soldier. Loon and Green have been holding down the Center rotation for 45 games, with a record like 36-9. How in the world could anyone criticize that?
Especially in the context of past Warriors teams Bogut, good screener, passer and rim protector, not mobile enough in the playoffs. Zaza, Bogut lite, D West, not a great defender, but a good screener and passer and could hit a mid range 2. The Warriors never had a center like Embiid or Jokic that was also a primary scoring option and they did ok.
Edit: Refering only to the Curry era Warriors obviously, because they did have this guy named Wilt once.
We still have Wilt on the team right now??
Wilt? That guy’s not even the leading franchise scorer on his own team!
what a bum
Watching the highlights of recent sixers games, it didn't look to me like Embiid was 100% but that doesn't make it a lot easier.
He could be on crutches and your still gonna feel it the next day.
I dunno, he’s not really a bruiser. More Hakeem than Shaq.
More Holyfield than Foreman? But still a Heavyweight.
Draymond is more of a Heavyweight than Embiid, on the defensive end.
Dray's not in the same weight class. I think he is more of a Thomas 'Hitman' Hearns.
This is a great thread. Kudos to you all for the cross-sport knowledge. Who do you all have for Ali? Ray Leonard? Can Ben Simmons be Roberto Duran?
Some have fretted over the fact that the rooks haven't gotten much playing time. Last year when Klay got hurt, Warriors had to burn their season plan and they never managed get another in place. This year, they have mapped out a plan which so far has worked to perfection. There has always been a plan for the rooks to get minutes and it's coming. They should all play a key role in keeping vets rested and injecting spirit into games during the dog days. I believe the plan is that Wise, JK & Mood, come playoff time, can all make a contribute at a Patrick McCaw level AT MINIMUM. Anything above that is icing on the cake. Of course, we all expect more, but all Kerr wants is to look down the bench and know he can call anyone's number and get a good 4-6 minute stint on the floor. So, fingers crossed, I'm hoping we start to see these real minutes materialize on the road trip.
From your mouth to God's ears. If this plan comes to fruition, I think we'll all be pretty stoked.