There's no way around it. Podz game was impressive for anyone, but just really special for a 20 YO guard. But it's on a few levels for me.
1) Skill based guards tend to struggle in the intro to the NBA vs more physically dominant guards. Generally takes them a while to sort out the speed of the game and how to see their spots vs an explosive guard like Ja or young D-Rose just going around people. So I think we can see that Podz is seeing the game really well, AND that his athleticism is translating really well. The latter was a big question based on his draft profile.
2) It's really really intriguing that Podz has been able to be effective in low usage/volume roles and then had no issues toggling up to being the primary scorer for a night. That's really rare and it's a great sign.
We'll see how it goes if/when he gets some more defensive attention, but even just being considered a dangerous confident 3 point shooter who plays a solid floor game is a huge add to any lineup right now.
Kerr's postgame interview intrigued me, especially his final statement. Usually he is so diplomatic and non-committal. He unapologetically praised Brandin, so BP's confidence shouldn't need boosting. Somebody probably posted this elsewhere, but I transcribed some interesting bits here.
When asked a question about Saric in the starting lineup, Kerr said:
[@5:00] ... if we're struggling to score, then Dario does change the chess board with his pick and pop and his ability to stretch the floor. So, everything's a possibility at this point. I like this team a lot (referring to the starting lineup of the last two seasons)... the character, the guts, the grit. But there's a lot of moving parts right now, and so nothing is set in stone and we, we're going to have to sort through it here in the early part of the season.
When asked whether Podz could be a backup point guard, Kerr replied:
I think he can play backup point guard, but I think he's just a basketball player so we can play him anywhere. I think the beauty of him is, the game connects when he's out there. I'm excited to play him with Steph and with Klay. He's going to get those guys a lot of shots with the way he plays and the way the ball moves. We'll see...
[@6:11] Monte Poole asked:
You mentioned grit. Is that something that this team has to bring to compete on a nightly basis, and have you seen it any more than you have tonight?
[@6:20] Kerr: "In order to win in the NBA, you have to have talent, but you have to have energy. You have to bring something to the table life-wise, like joy-wise, energy-wise, competitive-wise, and that's what I watched tonight from the whole group, and clearly Brandin has that, that's pretty obvious. You know, um, our fans have watched this team win four championships, and they weren't won by a bunch of pouters and wallflowers. They were won by gamers, competitors. Guys who brought energy and joy and passion to everything. And that's what it takes, that's what I'm looking for."
I think Monte was asking for examples of gritty lineups, but he got a clear list of qualities (intangibles?) Steve is looking for, and what he is NOT looking for.
Thoughts:
* I think Podz will be thrilled to play with Steph! But I anticipate gripes about small ball and
"need a big." Hope I am wrong.
* Kerr has pointed out he can't play everyone. With Podz having an increased role, and Gui on a full
contract, are the 2-ways going to have a reduced role? Could their be some friction if Podz
"jumps the line"?
* Are this season's draftees game changers? Could the Warriors' draft policy change to favor 4 year
grads and college champions over raw talent?
* Can't help but wonder about the "pouters and wallflowers" - I'm mystified. Off the top of my head,
the only potentially negative characterizations I can recall him making.
I recall that he wanted playing time, so he asked for a trade; luckily he thought better of it. I remember watching to an interview where he discussed his Basketball Without Borders and FIFA summer experience. "I got to be a coach!" Seems like he benefited from both experiences. Kerr has consistently said that playing time is earned. Podz and TJD are textbook examples of ready, and hopefully an inspiration to others wanting to get minutes.
I don't think Podz has any problem with his confidence. His # 1 problem is Kerr which I'm sure he doesn't give any energy to. He just likes to play. Kerr just has to figure out who he is going to put around Podz. Can he play with Kuminga? Not sure that is optimal. Moody, I think yes, Paul/Saric/TJD/GP2.
It’s an old video that was a real labor of love so I like to resurface it every now and then. I made one for Bang Bang and one for 37 (both on my channel).
As for the quote, don’t worry, I’m sure Dray figured it out and stopped being a distraction
In an actual dangerous situation, I'm all team Gobert. He would encourage we give up our wallets, live to die another day. Draymond would aggressively attack the issue, increasing our chances of retaining our pocket change, while also increasing our chances of untimely death.
Speaking as a Warriors fan, I will say that there is a chance -- I can't say how likely or unlikely with any certainty -- that I am on the wrong web site.
Btw I loved watching Podz last night, and his play was consistent with his other very brief time on court this season. But still - small sample size mania - it was one excellent game. I’m not ready to crown him as Steph v2 yet.
Maybe there is no easy solution, but the wide range of penalties for altercations seems so random. One example: Beverely push on CP a year or two ago, honestly still is one of the most unsportsmanlike things I've seen on a bball court. Worse than the non-fan portion of the Malice for sure, where you just have some guys brawling but no real danger outside the average hockey fight. It was premeditated, against a defenseless person, and had a pretty high probability of causing a serious injury compared to just punching a dude. Think it was a 1 game suspension? While I think Draymond does things he shouldn't, and a 5 game suspension seems reasonable for what he did, I also think he's never done something as bad as that Beverely push, which was barely penalized.
What should factor in is whether the action had a physical adverse effect on the opponent. If the target has to miss games, so should the perpetrator, unless it was ruled incidental. Danny Green could have sat for a year or two, etc. This might actually have a deterrent effect on altercations.
As far as I know, none of Dirty Draymond's countless 'victims' have ever had to miss a game due to injury resulting from Dray's actions.
I partially agree but not fully. I think maybe this should inform the "history" component, but not each act. What Danny Green or Zaza did was not that much more egregious than what others have done, but it did have a bad outcome. I don't think that means they should be extremely punished because of a random bad outcome. To my example above: CP3 didn't seem to suffer anything from Beverely's shove. However, I would still say what Bev did was much worse than Danny or Zaza. Danny and Zaza made plays that were dangerous and should not have been done, but Bev just outside the game clearly wanted to inflict damage to someone, with no overlap at all with the game of basketball.
But what I do agree on, is Draymond is seen as so dirty, history of problems etc -- but he's never (as far as I know) actually hurt someone significantly. I do think this should be a negating factor against his "prior history". Gobert joked that he's lucky Draymond doesn't know how to choke -- obviously just playing to the officials, but Draymond was not trying to "choke" Gobert, any more than Gobert was trying to choke Klay. Draymond was (rather foolishly) trying to eliminate Gobert from any altercation with Klay, but I don't think he was trying to actually hurt someone.
Kings beat the Lakers 125-110. Kings move to 6-4, while the Lakers fall to 6-6 and lose their game at home. Lakers were playing on a 2nd night of a B2B after routing the Grizzlies last night.
Haven't seen it much here, but there's a bunch of folks out there who want Poole back -- another terrible game for him - 16 points on 17 shots, 3 assists, 5 turnovers, -10. Guy is -141 in 11 games.
I don't really care about the +/- but I do find it pretty funny that so far he is averaging 16 points a game, down from the 20 he averaged last season. Supposedly he was going to go to DC and lead the league in scoring and become an All-Star...doesn't seem to be panning out that way though.
I can't remember if I already posted this, but it's a bit wild to me that Poole on now self-proclaimed "his team" is playing less minutes, scoring less, shooting worse, assisting less, and having a lower usage % than when he had the burden of playing with some good fellows.
What in the sam hill. Gotta be better, Dubs. Brandin is impressive.
Gobert said he meditates. I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to feel and do better. Not a Gobert fan, though, and I do agree he got away with something.
Dray is a junkyard dawg with a bone. Are any of the old timers defending him? At all?
One thing's for certain. Klay is HOT af in a ripped or no jersey. ;)
Lacob to Draymond before the season: we will sign you to that contract you want, but you need to get suspended from at least 10 games a year to help with the tax.
Forgot to update CPR:
4 assists, 4 turnovers, new CPR of 5.3 (84:16)
There's no way around it. Podz game was impressive for anyone, but just really special for a 20 YO guard. But it's on a few levels for me.
1) Skill based guards tend to struggle in the intro to the NBA vs more physically dominant guards. Generally takes them a while to sort out the speed of the game and how to see their spots vs an explosive guard like Ja or young D-Rose just going around people. So I think we can see that Podz is seeing the game really well, AND that his athleticism is translating really well. The latter was a big question based on his draft profile.
2) It's really really intriguing that Podz has been able to be effective in low usage/volume roles and then had no issues toggling up to being the primary scorer for a night. That's really rare and it's a great sign.
We'll see how it goes if/when he gets some more defensive attention, but even just being considered a dangerous confident 3 point shooter who plays a solid floor game is a huge add to any lineup right now.
Great points. Small sample size, but he seems like a guy who can make himself useful no matter who he’s out there with. I still get Divencenzo vibes:
* Good but not spectacular athlete
* Strong and who bigger than his size
* Dogged defender despite lack of said athleticism
* High BBIQ
* OMGReboundz!
* White
It looks like Podz might be a little more creative around the rim with a variety of shots.
Physically and his floor game that’s a really good comp.
But I don’t think Donte has ever had a game where he was hitting off the dribble 3’s like that
Kerr's postgame interview intrigued me, especially his final statement. Usually he is so diplomatic and non-committal. He unapologetically praised Brandin, so BP's confidence shouldn't need boosting. Somebody probably posted this elsewhere, but I transcribed some interesting bits here.
When asked a question about Saric in the starting lineup, Kerr said:
[@5:00] ... if we're struggling to score, then Dario does change the chess board with his pick and pop and his ability to stretch the floor. So, everything's a possibility at this point. I like this team a lot (referring to the starting lineup of the last two seasons)... the character, the guts, the grit. But there's a lot of moving parts right now, and so nothing is set in stone and we, we're going to have to sort through it here in the early part of the season.
When asked whether Podz could be a backup point guard, Kerr replied:
I think he can play backup point guard, but I think he's just a basketball player so we can play him anywhere. I think the beauty of him is, the game connects when he's out there. I'm excited to play him with Steph and with Klay. He's going to get those guys a lot of shots with the way he plays and the way the ball moves. We'll see...
[@6:11] Monte Poole asked:
You mentioned grit. Is that something that this team has to bring to compete on a nightly basis, and have you seen it any more than you have tonight?
[@6:20] Kerr: "In order to win in the NBA, you have to have talent, but you have to have energy. You have to bring something to the table life-wise, like joy-wise, energy-wise, competitive-wise, and that's what I watched tonight from the whole group, and clearly Brandin has that, that's pretty obvious. You know, um, our fans have watched this team win four championships, and they weren't won by a bunch of pouters and wallflowers. They were won by gamers, competitors. Guys who brought energy and joy and passion to everything. And that's what it takes, that's what I'm looking for."
I think Monte was asking for examples of gritty lineups, but he got a clear list of qualities (intangibles?) Steve is looking for, and what he is NOT looking for.
Thoughts:
* I think Podz will be thrilled to play with Steph! But I anticipate gripes about small ball and
"need a big." Hope I am wrong.
* Kerr has pointed out he can't play everyone. With Podz having an increased role, and Gui on a full
contract, are the 2-ways going to have a reduced role? Could their be some friction if Podz
"jumps the line"?
* Are this season's draftees game changers? Could the Warriors' draft policy change to favor 4 year
grads and college champions over raw talent?
* Can't help but wonder about the "pouters and wallflowers" - I'm mystified. Off the top of my head,
the only potentially negative characterizations I can recall him making.
Oh, I think Poole did a fair amount of pouting last year. And it sounds like JK joined him in it. Who knows whether he's pouted this year, though.
Also, Ryan Rollins and PBJ were pretty much the definition of wallflowers.
That's as good a guess as any!
From last year’s reports, it sounds as if Kuminga might have done some pouting and got his agents involved.
I recall that he wanted playing time, so he asked for a trade; luckily he thought better of it. I remember watching to an interview where he discussed his Basketball Without Borders and FIFA summer experience. "I got to be a coach!" Seems like he benefited from both experiences. Kerr has consistently said that playing time is earned. Podz and TJD are textbook examples of ready, and hopefully an inspiration to others wanting to get minutes.
I don't think Podz has any problem with his confidence. His # 1 problem is Kerr which I'm sure he doesn't give any energy to. He just likes to play. Kerr just has to figure out who he is going to put around Podz. Can he play with Kuminga? Not sure that is optimal. Moody, I think yes, Paul/Saric/TJD/GP2.
BBallBreakdown of Podz action:
https://youtu.be/hMgS5JdHTEk?si=uGhmV7QjVe33rvqp&t=185
I'm really curious as to NBA league reactions from current players who aren't on the Dubs/Wolves.
PatBev, DDV quotes def. seem pro-Dray. Anyone seen any others?
@EA: Did you just make that Explain Classic? Or is it repackaged from another video you did a few years back?
It was such a beautiful trip down memory lane... Thank you for that.
And also, the Dray quote at the end? Umm... the video was posted 8 days ago. Fucking Magician.
It’s an old video that was a real labor of love so I like to resurface it every now and then. I made one for Bang Bang and one for 37 (both on my channel).
As for the quote, don’t worry, I’m sure Dray figured it out and stopped being a distraction
If you've been away for a while: "Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show..."
Oy
Answer this. You’re going out. Place you don’t know. A little sketch. Who do you want along? Draymond or Golbert?
I’d rather stay home.
In an actual dangerous situation, I'm all team Gobert. He would encourage we give up our wallets, live to die another day. Draymond would aggressively attack the issue, increasing our chances of retaining our pocket change, while also increasing our chances of untimely death.
Yeah, Draymond seems more likely to say “You don’t have the guts to pull that trigger and shoot me and my friend ForeverFoyled here.” 😁
Answer this: Why would I go somewhere sketch?
Been missing these style comments from you night night
Thankyou!
Speaking as a Warriors fan, I will say that there is a chance -- I can't say how likely or unlikely with any certainty -- that I am on the wrong web site.
Dray. Of course.
I do love a lot of things about France though.
I also have watched almost no Gobert interviews. So who knows, maybe he’s a really kind thoughtful person?
He's an idiot. I've never met him, but I can say with certainty that he is in fact an idiot.
Draymond for the conversation, unless we're in a francophone country?
Btw I loved watching Podz last night, and his play was consistent with his other very brief time on court this season. But still - small sample size mania - it was one excellent game. I’m not ready to crown him as Steph v2 yet.
Podzanity?
Don't worry, we already did that with Poole remember?
Podz actually tries on defense though…
Maybe there is no easy solution, but the wide range of penalties for altercations seems so random. One example: Beverely push on CP a year or two ago, honestly still is one of the most unsportsmanlike things I've seen on a bball court. Worse than the non-fan portion of the Malice for sure, where you just have some guys brawling but no real danger outside the average hockey fight. It was premeditated, against a defenseless person, and had a pretty high probability of causing a serious injury compared to just punching a dude. Think it was a 1 game suspension? While I think Draymond does things he shouldn't, and a 5 game suspension seems reasonable for what he did, I also think he's never done something as bad as that Beverely push, which was barely penalized.
What should factor in is whether the action had a physical adverse effect on the opponent. If the target has to miss games, so should the perpetrator, unless it was ruled incidental. Danny Green could have sat for a year or two, etc. This might actually have a deterrent effect on altercations.
As far as I know, none of Dirty Draymond's countless 'victims' have ever had to miss a game due to injury resulting from Dray's actions.
I partially agree but not fully. I think maybe this should inform the "history" component, but not each act. What Danny Green or Zaza did was not that much more egregious than what others have done, but it did have a bad outcome. I don't think that means they should be extremely punished because of a random bad outcome. To my example above: CP3 didn't seem to suffer anything from Beverely's shove. However, I would still say what Bev did was much worse than Danny or Zaza. Danny and Zaza made plays that were dangerous and should not have been done, but Bev just outside the game clearly wanted to inflict damage to someone, with no overlap at all with the game of basketball.
But what I do agree on, is Draymond is seen as so dirty, history of problems etc -- but he's never (as far as I know) actually hurt someone significantly. I do think this should be a negating factor against his "prior history". Gobert joked that he's lucky Draymond doesn't know how to choke -- obviously just playing to the officials, but Draymond was not trying to "choke" Gobert, any more than Gobert was trying to choke Klay. Draymond was (rather foolishly) trying to eliminate Gobert from any altercation with Klay, but I don't think he was trying to actually hurt someone.
Kings beat the Lakers 125-110. Kings move to 6-4, while the Lakers fall to 6-6 and lose their game at home. Lakers were playing on a 2nd night of a B2B after routing the Grizzlies last night.
Undefeated with Fox except for the game against the Warriors
Haven't seen it much here, but there's a bunch of folks out there who want Poole back -- another terrible game for him - 16 points on 17 shots, 3 assists, 5 turnovers, -10. Guy is -141 in 11 games.
That ship has sailed, time for some folks to move along.
That ship sailed, did three loops around a 1 mile buoy, lists to the side then capsized.
Things change when you are on top of the scouting report.
I disagree. He was the top of the scouting report when he was here and Steph was out and he did way better than this
Except for Steph
I don't really care about the +/- but I do find it pretty funny that so far he is averaging 16 points a game, down from the 20 he averaged last season. Supposedly he was going to go to DC and lead the league in scoring and become an All-Star...doesn't seem to be panning out that way though.
His minutes are actually down this year - 28.7 this year compared with 30.0 the two previous seasons
Jordan Poole this season so far: (11 games)
29 minutes, 16.2 points/game, 40.6% FG, 30.1% threes, 2.4 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 2.8 turnovers, 3.1 fouls, 1.3 steals, 0.6 blocks
I can't remember if I already posted this, but it's a bit wild to me that Poole on now self-proclaimed "his team" is playing less minutes, scoring less, shooting worse, assisting less, and having a lower usage % than when he had the burden of playing with some good fellows.
Why would we want poole back?
And there’s a world outside of dnhq?!
It's a strange and savage place populated by people wearing purple and gold jerseys who use words like 'gnarly'.
Hahahaha
Wish David West wasn't so damn old. We could have used him for a few more years on and off the court.
What in the sam hill. Gotta be better, Dubs. Brandin is impressive.
Gobert said he meditates. I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to feel and do better. Not a Gobert fan, though, and I do agree he got away with something.
Dray is a junkyard dawg with a bone. Are any of the old timers defending him? At all?
One thing's for certain. Klay is HOT af in a ripped or no jersey. ;)
DUBS4LIFE
Are any of the old timers defending him? At all?
Shaq.
More on the financial implications for Draymond Green and Golden State:
Green Fine: $769,705
Golden St. savings: $2,597,762
The Warriors receive a tax variance credit that is 50% of the total Green fine.
The variance is applied to team salary that counts toward the tax.
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1724983585063510225
Insert smart-guy-tapping-head meme
THE MORE YOU KNOW
Lacob to Draymond before the season: we will sign you to that contract you want, but you need to get suspended from at least 10 games a year to help with the tax.