Below stick dog, Attila and Run asked for the long lost outtake of me and Perks talking about the competition for the guaranteed spots. I cut it due to time and not being that coherent, but here is the transcript:
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Eric: Is Lindy actually signed to a strict minimum?
Perks: so he's on a non guaranteed minimum that guarantees on January 10th. So the Warriors have kind of like a trial period until then to see how he fits. Maybe they bring someone to camp, someone like Kevin Knox can beat him out in camp. Um, I still think Lindy has the inside track, but this spot is definitely kind of up for grabs, um, until that January point.
Eric: So we'll talk about Kevin Knox in a little bit, but when people talk about somehow getting a spot on the roster, they're often talking about beating out Lindy Waters or Gui Santos, because I guess those two seem like the least secure in their NBA contract hood.
Perks: ... But going back to your, you know, earlier observation about potential rosters. I think I would put Gui ahead of Waters, um, just because of his development, I think that puts at least a hair above Lindy Waters, who I think maybe could be more useful in a pinch as they are currently as players, but I think, you know, with as deep as a roster you have, maybe with that back end spot, you want to think a little bit more long term development than you want to do, like, immediate, you know, plug and play type of guy.
I'm guessing that one of the things Kerr is most interested in finding out in preseason is whether JK can play the 3 now. Loon gets the starting nod on past performance.
Would certainly be fitting for the Warriors to cut into Moody's minutes for the sake of focusing on Kuminga. I think they'll start him at the 3 though.
"Loon gets the starting nod on past performance" Maybe Loon starts but not for that reason; this being preseason, Kerr might want a good look at the slimmed-down Loon. But TJD makes sense too.
I don't see Kerr wasting 'Dray at the 5' minutes on a meaningless preseason game. Especially not to start. maaaaaybe to finish for a few minutes to see how it works with some of the new/young players mixed in.
KT11: Klay's been reading stuff said online about him. It definitely doesn't surprise me though.
“Yeah, ‘cause I love it, you know? I’m trying to measure myself to everyone else’s standard. I didn’t realize how big a waste of energy that is, man. You’ve seen it in the comments. You’re gonna get people like, sometimes, they’re writing foul stuff, and don’t ever let that stop you from what you do, bro. Yeah, I feel like that impeded what I was great at last year..."
I'm totally at peace with Klay moving on as it was obvious to everybody that he was frustrated last year and it was affecting his play. Given just how similar Buddy Hield is to Klay, the Warriors, Mavericks, and Klay are all probably pretty satisfied with the way it worked out. Of course if they meet in the playoffs somebody is going to be disappointed.
Maybe not guaranteed but it would be pretty surprising for them to recruit him over there to come off the bench, especially given he wasn't too thrilled with doing that here.
The one thing that I would have added to the discussion is that there is camp competition not only for the three two-way contracts, but also for the 13th and 14th rosters slots when you consider that neither Lindy Waters' nor Gui Santos' contracts are guaranteed. That was probably a selling point to getting Kevin Knox into the Warriors' training camp.
Yes but I think Gui has an inside track vs Waters. He has more size, he plays very hard, and he has improved significantly every year with the organization. Feels too soon to give up on him. Even if MDL saw something he likes in Waters, I think it is between him and Knox unless we make a trade before the roster gets cut down.
Mmm... maybe. I am not as sold on Gui as you are. Gui is a G Leaguer until proven otherwise. There's a lot we probably don't know yet about Waters but he has more NBA experience, he's a significantly better shooter than Gui, and reportedly he's a decent defender. We shall see. Knox looked good in Summer League, but that is a low bar. So I think it's pretty wide open. I hope we'll see all three of 'em in preseason games.
I think one of the sneaky most important developments is that TJD gets to a point where he can anchor the defense without Draymond or KA next to him at 4. That would unlock a LOT of lineup possibilities.
Observation: KA and Melton have been key rotation guys on multiple mid 50’s win teams in last few years.
KA on 22 Grizz and 24 Wolves.
Melton on 22 Grizz and 23 76ers. (Was 3rd in minutes on the Sixers.
Prediction: Melton is getting traded in season. He’s so tradable as a plug n play starter/rotation SG on a mid-tier deal.
I do think he will fit and play well, but it will just be natural economics. He’ll be a higher need for another team without so many SG, and we’ll jump at the opportunity for a stretch big.
Some potential trade opportunities.
Melton for Bobby Portis
Melton for Obi Toppin
Melton and Wiggins for Michael Porter Jr
Melton and Looney or GP2 for Cam Johnson (part of a 3 way deal).
I don't see Melton getting traded unless he's injured or Podz/Hield/GP2/Moody all hit the "highest potential outcome" for their seasons. If we end in a "trade for star on struggling team" situation, we're sending them salary, prospects, and picks.
If Melton isn't injured, playing well, and filling a real role, and we're trying to compete for a championship, we're going to want to keep him over other players.
If we're trading for a star, that other team is almost certainly in "rebuild" mode, and will be fine receiving other salary, while we keep our best players.
I don't really see a "rotation player for rotation player" swap in our future. Our roster is pretty balanced as it is. I suppose if Kuminga gets injured and lost for the season and Podz/Moody/GP2/Hield are playing well, and the Bucks are struggling at SG, you could argue trading Melton for Bobby Portis would better balance the Warriors team... but, I don't see Milwaukee having the depth to absorb losing Portis from their big rotation. It certainly only takes one good fit to make a trade work, and nobody would have guessed "KAT for Randle & DiVincenzo" before it happened... but I just don't really see Melton getting moved unless he's injured and becomes salary filler.
Lack of shooting at the 4/5, with Loon, TJD, Dray, SloMo, and JK. All our shooters are guards and small wings, unless we consider Wiggs a big wing. So we end up having two non-shooters up front, maybe even three if JK is playing SF. Post could help there but he's a rookie, and we don't know how ready he'll be. Some of the top teams can play 4 or even 5 out (e.g., the Celtics) with shooting all around. We can't.
Dear god please no. MPJ is massively overrated and has health concerns of his own. [EDIT] Oh yeah and he's very expensive at ~$35-$40 million a year guaranteed through 26-27.
Given Melton/GP2's skillset overlap BUT Melton having the ability to shoot (a valuable skill on our roster), I think it's far more likely GP2 is traded.
As for TJD, where I think he needs to improve is as a rim protector/offensive rebounder. He's already doing a great/elite job in terms of help defense/rim frequence/blocking shots BUT he's only in the 89th percentile when it comes to actual rim protection. Hopefully being in Y2 and gaining an inch will improve his defensive timing and allow him to do a better job there.
In a perfect world, he'd do a better job with hand discipline allowing him to generate more deflections. Its beyond frustrating seeing centers with long wingspans don't fully utilize their gifts to cause havoc.
Melton having the ability to shoot and defend at the SG spot makes him a really valuable fit on a lot of rosters, which is my point.
He’s a starting caliber player on a one year deal that fits a huge need for a bunch of teams. We have him on a one year deal and have plenty of other options at that spot. He’s tradable.
Hard to say whether it’s more or less likely he’s traded vs GP2 or Moody or Looney. But he’s in that mix too pretty clearly to me.
Man, I think I’m going to like him a lot. High hopes have him sixth highest in minutes and an integral part of a contending team. And I get the idea that rotation for rotation trade doesn’t usually make sense unless we’re patching a weakness. But I’m hoping JK and Wiggs are hitting their 3s ‘cause,if not, we’re having a whole other discussion.
That said, if things are going well in the Golden State, I can really only see a three way trade where dubs let him go to a contender who sends off youth to pair with ours in attempt to get a real difference maker from an underperforming team.
Yep, Melton as a possible valuable trade chip is not something I was thinking of, but it makes a lot of sense. Of course, if he proves his value and health, he may still be more valuable to us on the roster than in a trade, barring a really spectacular trade target like say a disgruntled Giannis as the Bucks struggle or whataever.
On the other hand, if they trade for a stretch big then GP2 would instantly become a lot more playable.
I agree that GP2 is a strong candidate to be traded though. I hadn't considered the Melton trade angle before hammystyle brought it up but that makes sense to me too, especially because Melton presumably has more trade value than GP2.
GP2 has to show he can stay healthy for most of a season. Melton has to show he has his back issues under control. But if both are healthy, Melton is worth more. However, he is worth more to us, too. If we're in the hunt, I can't see trading him unless it's part of a much bigger deal.
I can't believe we're talking about mid-season trades just a few days into camp and before the first preseason game!
>Dray is definitely a guy who would get bent out of shape if he wasn't a starter. I'm
guessing that alone will keep him in the starting lineup.
Also the fact that he is significantly better at everything except scoring in comparison to Kuminga and there will not be a point in their combined lifespans where that will change.
Let's revisit this at the end of the season. I don't think you are allowing for either age-related decline, or the fact that Kuminga is getting better at a pretty significant rate. But, I still think that Kuminga really needs to be a 3, and hope that's where he ends up.
If Draymond were to decline to the point where he'd only be as good as Kuminga can reasonably expected to be this season the Warriors are boned. Like I am talking "Waive the flag for Flagg" boned. Thankfully, that will not happen.
Draymond will start, per Kerr, but it's not like the starting lineup is immutable throughout a game. He can play with various combinations as a game develops. He also needs rest to keep his body together, especially his back, so if TJD and KA eat some of his minutes, that could help keep Dray healthy for the playoffs.
Dray does have immense value as a help defender, so it's really useful to have a 5 on the floor to keep opponents' bigs honest... and he's got such a special collaboration with Steph... it's hard to see him coming off the floor being a good outcome for the team until he visibly starts to be less effective, and he hasn't been ineffective yet.
Unsolicited advice, you should probably change you're channel name to somethings Warriors/Basketball related so that you can gather subscribers from non DubNationHQ readers.
My favourite Bball insights: why are all but one overseas players not guards (Luka) and why is there a steeper drop off in quality Big men than other positions...
I think he’s half right, but the more correct quote would be “Championships are won 1-10 not 1-5.” The bench is obviously super important, you can’t be entirely top heavy, but if your starters can’t keep up with the Lukas of the world you’re not winning.
I dunno I feel like he's almost entirely wrong lol... Championships are won 1-5 -- go to bbref and click the playoffs tab and sort by BPM or minutes... there's usually like a 6-7 man rotation, 2 or 3 of whom balled out, and then like two more guys playing spot minutes who didn't shit the bed. I guess you need to not shit the bed to win a championship, so maybe my final version would be: Championships are won 1-5, but they can be lost 6-10.
It reminds me of when NFL analysts have gone through every angle regarding a matchup over the course of a week and by Friday will say some shit like "this game will be won or lost on special teams".
I don't really think Draymond believes what he said though tbh.
LOL. <it wasn't like he was jumping around swatting shots.>
I'd say that's a good thing. Wasn't the knock on Wiseman's D that he left his feet and ended up fouling too much? My impression of Post is that he uses his height by standing there with his hands straight up, exactly they way everyone was demanding that Wiseman defend only a couple years ago. A guy that tall doesn't need to jump to be an effective rim defender.
There was two main knocks on Wiseman's defense. Firstly was his piss poor positioning and lack of footwork in the pick and roll which resulted in him being compromised in drop/hedge/ice/soft switch/show and recover. His best pick and roll defense was his switching, but he was trash at that as well.
Secondly, Wiseman was absolutely terrible in help defense and timing rim protection. He just couldn't read opposing offenses and react in time always being a second late. A subset of this is Wiseman leaving his feet and fouling, but that isn't anywhere that important.
I would love to know how he got coached growing up, what position and skillsets he was being prospected for... Such a pipedream... but the one thing that really stood out were his really bad hands at catching the ball.
Yes, the effectiveness is what counts in the end. In fact, Post was an effective defender in college, with both good defensive analytics and a well above average block rate. Let's hope some of that translates to the pros.
I never thought his release was an issue. I've always wished he could up his accuracy to the 38-40% range on higher volume rather than his career of 36%.
I think the percentage/volume and the release are tied together. He shot 45% on wide open threes last season (40% the year before, 41% in his rookie season), but his slower release allows defenders to get closer to his shot.
Kerr said he wanted Moody's shot quicker after last season ended.
I think it’s both his release and decision-making. He often does the Wiggins thing where he gets the ball on the perimeter and then indecisively pokes around.
Agreed. One of the things I find frustrating about Moody is that he is reputed (and by everything I can see) to be a very smart player, yet his decision making is sooo slow. He's been working on it, and you can see he's quicker in some situations, but there's still a lot of potential growth.
Of course, part of it (*I think*) is that on offense he doesn't have a lot of moves to go to.
Hmm... ok. I'll buy that. Let's see if it pays off this season. Honestly, his shot accuracy and volume has been perhaps the biggest disapointment outside of his ever sporadic playign time. The two are most certainly related.
Assume 8 hours shooting practice in a day, he would need to get up 125 shots each hour or 1 shot every 30 seconds. Easily doable if you're focusing on it.
EDIT: He attempted 12 shots in the 39 second clip above... so getting to 2k shots would take under 2 hours at that rate.
Sure, consider my comment "2 hours of shooting time". It could be split across a few sessions with breaks. Point being that attempting 2k shots in a day is easily doable.
Shaq: Shaq wanted to see how long he could go without being recognized in Toronto. Lol.
https://youtu.be/tC0xoUzcTs4?si=r9z1Hig5Qy5I_TFj
Just wrote a preview for the first time in forever.
Let's goooooo!
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Miss ya
I hope you can write the inaugural Valkyries preview Duby! Welcome back!
Still looks like you got banned, haha
Below stick dog, Attila and Run asked for the long lost outtake of me and Perks talking about the competition for the guaranteed spots. I cut it due to time and not being that coherent, but here is the transcript:
[[
Eric: Is Lindy actually signed to a strict minimum?
Perks: so he's on a non guaranteed minimum that guarantees on January 10th. So the Warriors have kind of like a trial period until then to see how he fits. Maybe they bring someone to camp, someone like Kevin Knox can beat him out in camp. Um, I still think Lindy has the inside track, but this spot is definitely kind of up for grabs, um, until that January point.
Eric: So we'll talk about Kevin Knox in a little bit, but when people talk about somehow getting a spot on the roster, they're often talking about beating out Lindy Waters or Gui Santos, because I guess those two seem like the least secure in their NBA contract hood.
Perks: ... But going back to your, you know, earlier observation about potential rosters. I think I would put Gui ahead of Waters, um, just because of his development, I think that puts at least a hair above Lindy Waters, who I think maybe could be more useful in a pinch as they are currently as players, but I think, you know, with as deep as a roster you have, maybe with that back end spot, you want to think a little bit more long term development than you want to do, like, immediate, you know, plug and play type of guy.
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Wiggins is out for Saturday's game due to illness, starting lineup predictions?
I briefly thought that this was satire, but then realized that the preseason is here.
Loon, Dray, JK, Melton, Curry.
I'm guessing that one of the things Kerr is most interested in finding out in preseason is whether JK can play the 3 now. Loon gets the starting nod on past performance.
Would certainly be fitting for the Warriors to cut into Moody's minutes for the sake of focusing on Kuminga. I think they'll start him at the 3 though.
"Loon gets the starting nod on past performance" Maybe Loon starts but not for that reason; this being preseason, Kerr might want a good look at the slimmed-down Loon. But TJD makes sense too.
I guess starting TJD could get the message across that there are no sacred cows for training camp this year, too. My money is still on Loon, though.
Steph/Melton/JK/Dray/TJD
I'll go Curry/Melton/Moody/Kuminga/Green
I don't see Kerr wasting 'Dray at the 5' minutes on a meaningless preseason game. Especially not to start. maaaaaybe to finish for a few minutes to see how it works with some of the new/young players mixed in.
KT11: Klay's been reading stuff said online about him. It definitely doesn't surprise me though.
“Yeah, ‘cause I love it, you know? I’m trying to measure myself to everyone else’s standard. I didn’t realize how big a waste of energy that is, man. You’ve seen it in the comments. You’re gonna get people like, sometimes, they’re writing foul stuff, and don’t ever let that stop you from what you do, bro. Yeah, I feel like that impeded what I was great at last year..."
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/klay-thompson-i-forgot-why-i-really-play-this-game-yeah-cause-i-love-it
I'm totally at peace with Klay moving on as it was obvious to everybody that he was frustrated last year and it was affecting his play. Given just how similar Buddy Hield is to Klay, the Warriors, Mavericks, and Klay are all probably pretty satisfied with the way it worked out. Of course if they meet in the playoffs somebody is going to be disappointed.
More importantly, Kerr will bench hield with a tight leash unlike klay
It's gonna be Jason Kidd that gets disappointed
Random but I don't think Klay has a guaranteed start spot at this point.
Yeah. Dallas is going for a title. The only guys who are guaranteed to get time, even if they suck, are Luka and Kyrie.
Maybe not guaranteed but it would be pretty surprising for them to recruit him over there to come off the bench, especially given he wasn't too thrilled with doing that here.
Nice video!
The one thing that I would have added to the discussion is that there is camp competition not only for the three two-way contracts, but also for the 13th and 14th rosters slots when you consider that neither Lindy Waters' nor Gui Santos' contracts are guaranteed. That was probably a selling point to getting Kevin Knox into the Warriors' training camp.
Yes but I think Gui has an inside track vs Waters. He has more size, he plays very hard, and he has improved significantly every year with the organization. Feels too soon to give up on him. Even if MDL saw something he likes in Waters, I think it is between him and Knox unless we make a trade before the roster gets cut down.
Mmm... maybe. I am not as sold on Gui as you are. Gui is a G Leaguer until proven otherwise. There's a lot we probably don't know yet about Waters but he has more NBA experience, he's a significantly better shooter than Gui, and reportedly he's a decent defender. We shall see. Knox looked good in Summer League, but that is a low bar. So I think it's pretty wide open. I hope we'll see all three of 'em in preseason games.
Good point. To be honest, Perks and I did discuss that but I cut it for time. Maybe I shouldn’t have…
Could you post a short clip with that part?
Speaking for myself, I wish you had left it in. I didn't think it was too long at all.
Kerr's gonna wait till Saturday 3pm PDT to officially announce the starting line up, huh?
T-52.5 hours till tip off
Now we're talking ... countdowns to media day don't excite me, unless Dray is going to announce that he had a sex-change operation in the offseason.
Countdowns to the first preseason game tip-off, though ...
Here for Dray coming out a stud and not being as cantankerous an asshole bc of it!
The countdown excitement is ramping up!
Dang. Definitely feels like forever since the last game lol
I think one of the sneaky most important developments is that TJD gets to a point where he can anchor the defense without Draymond or KA next to him at 4. That would unlock a LOT of lineup possibilities.
Observation: KA and Melton have been key rotation guys on multiple mid 50’s win teams in last few years.
KA on 22 Grizz and 24 Wolves.
Melton on 22 Grizz and 23 76ers. (Was 3rd in minutes on the Sixers.
Prediction: Melton is getting traded in season. He’s so tradable as a plug n play starter/rotation SG on a mid-tier deal.
I do think he will fit and play well, but it will just be natural economics. He’ll be a higher need for another team without so many SG, and we’ll jump at the opportunity for a stretch big.
Some potential trade opportunities.
Melton for Bobby Portis
Melton for Obi Toppin
Melton and Wiggins for Michael Porter Jr
Melton and Looney or GP2 for Cam Johnson (part of a 3 way deal).
Melton for Olynyk
I don't see Melton getting traded unless he's injured or Podz/Hield/GP2/Moody all hit the "highest potential outcome" for their seasons. If we end in a "trade for star on struggling team" situation, we're sending them salary, prospects, and picks.
Why not? If we could get someone who fills a bigger need why wouldn’t we trade him?
If Melton isn't injured, playing well, and filling a real role, and we're trying to compete for a championship, we're going to want to keep him over other players.
If we're trading for a star, that other team is almost certainly in "rebuild" mode, and will be fine receiving other salary, while we keep our best players.
I don't really see a "rotation player for rotation player" swap in our future. Our roster is pretty balanced as it is. I suppose if Kuminga gets injured and lost for the season and Podz/Moody/GP2/Hield are playing well, and the Bucks are struggling at SG, you could argue trading Melton for Bobby Portis would better balance the Warriors team... but, I don't see Milwaukee having the depth to absorb losing Portis from their big rotation. It certainly only takes one good fit to make a trade work, and nobody would have guessed "KAT for Randle & DiVincenzo" before it happened... but I just don't really see Melton getting moved unless he's injured and becomes salary filler.
I think the roster is deep but not balanced. I think an in season trade is pretty likely.
Melton just makes a lot of sense to me because he's on a one year deal and will have a lot of suitors. He's probably the easiest player to trade.
In what way do you think the roster is imbalanced?
Lack of shooting at the 4/5, with Loon, TJD, Dray, SloMo, and JK. All our shooters are guards and small wings, unless we consider Wiggs a big wing. So we end up having two non-shooters up front, maybe even three if JK is playing SF. Post could help there but he's a rookie, and we don't know how ready he'll be. Some of the top teams can play 4 or even 5 out (e.g., the Celtics) with shooting all around. We can't.
> Melton and Wiggins for Michael Porter Jr
Dear god please no. MPJ is massively overrated and has health concerns of his own. [EDIT] Oh yeah and he's very expensive at ~$35-$40 million a year guaranteed through 26-27.
He definitely has long term health concerns but his skillset would be a perfect fit for this roster.
Trading Melton and Wiggins for him doesn’t overrate him.
I have doubts about the sustainability of his "skillset" not speaking of health. For me, it's a hard pass.
Given Melton/GP2's skillset overlap BUT Melton having the ability to shoot (a valuable skill on our roster), I think it's far more likely GP2 is traded.
As for TJD, where I think he needs to improve is as a rim protector/offensive rebounder. He's already doing a great/elite job in terms of help defense/rim frequence/blocking shots BUT he's only in the 89th percentile when it comes to actual rim protection. Hopefully being in Y2 and gaining an inch will improve his defensive timing and allow him to do a better job there.
In a perfect world, he'd do a better job with hand discipline allowing him to generate more deflections. Its beyond frustrating seeing centers with long wingspans don't fully utilize their gifts to cause havoc.
Melton having the ability to shoot and defend at the SG spot makes him a really valuable fit on a lot of rosters, which is my point.
He’s a starting caliber player on a one year deal that fits a huge need for a bunch of teams. We have him on a one year deal and have plenty of other options at that spot. He’s tradable.
Hard to say whether it’s more or less likely he’s traded vs GP2 or Moody or Looney. But he’s in that mix too pretty clearly to me.
Man, I think I’m going to like him a lot. High hopes have him sixth highest in minutes and an integral part of a contending team. And I get the idea that rotation for rotation trade doesn’t usually make sense unless we’re patching a weakness. But I’m hoping JK and Wiggs are hitting their 3s ‘cause,if not, we’re having a whole other discussion.
That said, if things are going well in the Golden State, I can really only see a three way trade where dubs let him go to a contender who sends off youth to pair with ours in attempt to get a real difference maker from an underperforming team.
Yep, Melton as a possible valuable trade chip is not something I was thinking of, but it makes a lot of sense. Of course, if he proves his value and health, he may still be more valuable to us on the roster than in a trade, barring a really spectacular trade target like say a disgruntled Giannis as the Bucks struggle or whataever.
On the other hand, if they trade for a stretch big then GP2 would instantly become a lot more playable.
I agree that GP2 is a strong candidate to be traded though. I hadn't considered the Melton trade angle before hammystyle brought it up but that makes sense to me too, especially because Melton presumably has more trade value than GP2.
GP2 has to show he can stay healthy for most of a season. Melton has to show he has his back issues under control. But if both are healthy, Melton is worth more. However, he is worth more to us, too. If we're in the hunt, I can't see trading him unless it's part of a much bigger deal.
I can't believe we're talking about mid-season trades just a few days into camp and before the first preseason game!
Draymond sounds like he doesn't want kuminga taking his spot at the 4 lol
Dray is definitely a guy who would get bent out of shape if he wasn't a starter. I'm guessing that alone will keep him in the starting lineup.
Overall minutes, though ... dunno. TJD and KA should eat a bunch of Dray's minutes (Loon doesn't really get enough minutes to take a bunch out of).
>Dray is definitely a guy who would get bent out of shape if he wasn't a starter. I'm
guessing that alone will keep him in the starting lineup.
Also the fact that he is significantly better at everything except scoring in comparison to Kuminga and there will not be a point in their combined lifespans where that will change.
Let's revisit this at the end of the season. I don't think you are allowing for either age-related decline, or the fact that Kuminga is getting better at a pretty significant rate. But, I still think that Kuminga really needs to be a 3, and hope that's where he ends up.
If Draymond were to decline to the point where he'd only be as good as Kuminga can reasonably expected to be this season the Warriors are boned. Like I am talking "Waive the flag for Flagg" boned. Thankfully, that will not happen.
Draymond will start, per Kerr, but it's not like the starting lineup is immutable throughout a game. He can play with various combinations as a game develops. He also needs rest to keep his body together, especially his back, so if TJD and KA eat some of his minutes, that could help keep Dray healthy for the playoffs.
/ deal with it gif /
Dray does have immense value as a help defender, so it's really useful to have a 5 on the floor to keep opponents' bigs honest... and he's got such a special collaboration with Steph... it's hard to see him coming off the floor being a good outcome for the team until he visibly starts to be less effective, and he hasn't been ineffective yet.
Winter is coming ☹️
But NBA is coming, too. 😀
Unsolicited advice, you should probably change you're channel name to somethings Warriors/Basketball related so that you can gather subscribers from non DubNationHQ readers.
Hm… even I know that the Dubs are the Warriors. And I am from Germany.
I think they’re referring to the Eric Apricot youtube channel that the video was posted on.
I think they're referring to the DubNationHQ channel actually...
Ah, right, thanks!
Thought some of you might enjoy this... (20mins)
What are the odds of going Pro in US sports?
My favourite Bball insights: why are all but one overseas players not guards (Luka) and why is there a steeper drop off in quality Big men than other positions...
https://youtu.be/D5A1hOZwT8A?feature=shared
That was indeed interesting. The conclusions are kind of what I expected, but still a good watch.
Draymond "Championships are won 6-10 not 1-5" lol I appreciate the sentiment but I had to check...
2024 Celtics (by BPM, min 500 minutes):
1-5: Jayson Tatum, Tingus Pingus, Derrick White, Al Horford, Luke Kornet
6-10: Jrue Holiday, Sam Hauser, Payton Pritchard, Jaylen Brown, Oshae Brissett
2023 Nuggets:
1-5: Jokic, Gordon, Murray, Porter Jr, Bruce Brown
6-10: Bones Hyland, Caldwell-Pope, Vlatko Cancar, Deandre Jordan, Christian Braun
2022 Warriors:
1-5: Steph, GP2, Draymond, OPJ, Iguodala
6-10: Bjeli, Klay, Poole, Looney, Wiggins
I think he’s half right, but the more correct quote would be “Championships are won 1-10 not 1-5.” The bench is obviously super important, you can’t be entirely top heavy, but if your starters can’t keep up with the Lukas of the world you’re not winning.
I dunno I feel like he's almost entirely wrong lol... Championships are won 1-5 -- go to bbref and click the playoffs tab and sort by BPM or minutes... there's usually like a 6-7 man rotation, 2 or 3 of whom balled out, and then like two more guys playing spot minutes who didn't shit the bed. I guess you need to not shit the bed to win a championship, so maybe my final version would be: Championships are won 1-5, but they can be lost 6-10.
It reminds me of when NFL analysts have gone through every angle regarding a matchup over the course of a week and by Friday will say some shit like "this game will be won or lost on special teams".
I don't really think Draymond believes what he said though tbh.
There's a lot of bench players in those top5's.
I guess the definition of 1-5 and 6-10 is subjective...
Not really, compare to sorting by minutes.
you’re defining top as most minutes, I'm defining top as best player, hence subjective.
E.g. by your definition Wiggins and Poole were our #1 and #2 players in 2022
LOL. <it wasn't like he was jumping around swatting shots.>
I'd say that's a good thing. Wasn't the knock on Wiseman's D that he left his feet and ended up fouling too much? My impression of Post is that he uses his height by standing there with his hands straight up, exactly they way everyone was demanding that Wiseman defend only a couple years ago. A guy that tall doesn't need to jump to be an effective rim defender.
I recall Post being praised for staying down, not buying pump fakes and only leaving his feet after the man he’s guarding does.
There was two main knocks on Wiseman's defense. Firstly was his piss poor positioning and lack of footwork in the pick and roll which resulted in him being compromised in drop/hedge/ice/soft switch/show and recover. His best pick and roll defense was his switching, but he was trash at that as well.
Secondly, Wiseman was absolutely terrible in help defense and timing rim protection. He just couldn't read opposing offenses and react in time always being a second late. A subset of this is Wiseman leaving his feet and fouling, but that isn't anywhere that important.
I would love to know how he got coached growing up, what position and skillsets he was being prospected for... Such a pipedream... but the one thing that really stood out were his really bad hands at catching the ball.
Yes, the effectiveness is what counts in the end. In fact, Post was an effective defender in college, with both good defensive analytics and a well above average block rate. Let's hope some of that translates to the pros.
For the capologists, here is a thread of the exact cap obstacles the NYK avoided to pull off the KAT trade and the maneuvers they used: https://www.threads.net/@joeyo1k/post/DAowxBPPlae/?xmt=AQGzIeiX8J1qYvjY8D_Lc9FdyvOrOMf0s5yPMX4QE7f-Ww
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Looks like Moody has been working on a faster shot release. His game is going to explode if he can translate that into the season imo.
FIFY: His game is going to explode if he can get on the freakin’ court. .
I never thought his release was an issue. I've always wished he could up his accuracy to the 38-40% range on higher volume rather than his career of 36%.
I think the percentage/volume and the release are tied together. He shot 45% on wide open threes last season (40% the year before, 41% in his rookie season), but his slower release allows defenders to get closer to his shot.
Kerr said he wanted Moody's shot quicker after last season ended.
I think it’s both his release and decision-making. He often does the Wiggins thing where he gets the ball on the perimeter and then indecisively pokes around.
Agreed. One of the things I find frustrating about Moody is that he is reputed (and by everything I can see) to be a very smart player, yet his decision making is sooo slow. He's been working on it, and you can see he's quicker in some situations, but there's still a lot of potential growth.
Of course, part of it (*I think*) is that on offense he doesn't have a lot of moves to go to.
Hmm... ok. I'll buy that. Let's see if it pays off this season. Honestly, his shot accuracy and volume has been perhaps the biggest disapointment outside of his ever sporadic playign time. The two are most certainly related.
Needs to shoot a couple thousand of those until it just becomes automatic. Then: hell yea!
That's like 2 days of work...
Assume 8 hours shooting practice in a day, he would need to get up 125 shots each hour or 1 shot every 30 seconds. Easily doable if you're focusing on it.
EDIT: He attempted 12 shots in the 39 second clip above... so getting to 2k shots would take under 2 hours at that rate.
believe it or not, he would be exhausted in less than half of that. What do you think he is, Steph Curry?
Sure, consider my comment "2 hours of shooting time". It could be split across a few sessions with breaks. Point being that attempting 2k shots in a day is easily doable.
I think it's been a point of emphasis for him this offseason along with the handle