"In every season since his rookie campaign, Green has taken at least 32 percent of his shots from 3-point range—until this season, when he’s cut his rate by more than half, to just 15 percent. Put another way: Ever since his rookie season, Green has averaged at least two 3-pointers per game—until this season, when he’s down below one per game.
[...]
Instead of 3s, Green is taking a career-high percentage of shots at the rim this season, leading to his highest effective field goal percentage since 2015-16. He’s also just as creative a playmaker for others as ever. With the Warriors offense humming along, there’s no reason for Green to venture back out beyond the arc at the same rate he used to—especially once Klay Thompson returns and adds another knockdown shooter to the rotation."
Last night the Clippers beat the Heat, and the Warriors SoS from BBallRef.... got worse?
The other teams in action were the Pacers, Jazz, Raptors, and Sixers, none of whom the Warriors have played.
I know it's early yet and the stats likely aren't "connected" as not all teams have played one another, but there are some really fishy second-order effects here if a team the Warriors played has a win against a Heat team the BBallRef algorithm still has ranked second (!) behind us in SRS and our SOS gets worse.
I noticed Iguodala showing “The Glove” a lot of love on the sidelines last night. He must have crossed paths on basketball courts with Payton Sr early in his career. Does anyone know of a personal connection there?
I'm pretty sure FiveThirtyEight's player ratings are not reliable, but they currently have Iguodala as the best defender in the league with at least 150 min played. If you relax the conditions all the way down to 50 minutes played, the list is:
1. Josh Okogie (MIN) +14.3
2. Gary Payton II (GSW) +10.1
3. Ty Jerome (OKC) +8.2
4. Andre Iguodala (+8.2)
Actually Payton is up at *2nd overall in the league* for total RAPTOR, behind only Jokic.
If you look closely, the stats are kind of wack in a lot of ways but they do *sort of* capture a sense of how things have been going for guys lately. Which, for Young Glove, has been "very well".
Just doing some BBall reference research... Wiggins is taking 15% of his shots from mid-range and 38% of his shots from outside the arc, compared to 24% and 35% last year, and 34% and 24% for his career. If this carries over, it's a huge change in his shot profile... and if he can get his 3pt percentage in the 35-37% range, it's kind of a big deal tbh.
OT First time I've heard this about LeBron's injury.
>The report that LeBron James might miss up to eight weeks with his abdominal injury must be extremely concerning for the Lakers, whose net rating is 11.1 points per 100 possessions better with him on the court.
This was in a CBS Sports power ranking article that just came out earlier today, which I ran across after reading their article about GPII. Good article.
(I’m bring this over from the other thread since this looks like it’s becoming THE thread.)
For discussion: If Dray needs a night off, who do we think gets the start? There are really a lot of options:
1. JTA seems like a good candidate to start. He’s familiar with playing that role and knows how to find Curry. He’s also had his minutes curtailed because of all the depth and it’s looked like he’s pressing trying to make things happen in short minutes. (The game Iggy sat and he got more minutes was a notable exception.) Kerr throwing him a bone and letting him start would send a message that he’s still important/appreciated and would seem like the Kerr thing to do.
2. Iggy would give them playmaking and defense, but they probably don’t want to wear him down to start the game.
3. Bjelly would probably do well, but I’m guessing they want him as the only other 5.
4. I could also see OPJ starting in a sort of KD-esque PF role. He’s give them rebounding, but not a lot of playmaking, but they’d have to rely on Poole and Steph for the play-making.
5. Kuminga??!! Very probably not.
6. Something crazy like sliding Wiggins to PF and starting Lee or Moody at wing is possible, but not likely.
"In every season since his rookie campaign, Green has taken at least 32 percent of his shots from 3-point range—until this season, when he’s cut his rate by more than half, to just 15 percent. Put another way: Ever since his rookie season, Green has averaged at least two 3-pointers per game—until this season, when he’s down below one per game.
[...]
Instead of 3s, Green is taking a career-high percentage of shots at the rim this season, leading to his highest effective field goal percentage since 2015-16. He’s also just as creative a playmaker for others as ever. With the Warriors offense humming along, there’s no reason for Green to venture back out beyond the arc at the same rate he used to—especially once Klay Thompson returns and adds another knockdown shooter to the rotation."
More at the link: "https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/11/12/22777235/shot-charts-takeaways-carmelo-anthony-trae-young-chris-paul
Last night the Clippers beat the Heat, and the Warriors SoS from BBallRef.... got worse?
The other teams in action were the Pacers, Jazz, Raptors, and Sixers, none of whom the Warriors have played.
I know it's early yet and the stats likely aren't "connected" as not all teams have played one another, but there are some really fishy second-order effects here if a team the Warriors played has a win against a Heat team the BBallRef algorithm still has ranked second (!) behind us in SRS and our SOS gets worse.
Have to say it was nice of the nba to schedule a brawl and multiple ejections on the Warriors off night to keep things frosty
lol GP2 as "Dunk-o-matic 3000" (the new E1P on YT)
Loon (in a presser):. "....... Wiggs be acting old sometimes....". Coming from Loon, that's just pure gold. 😃
Gobert and Turner just got in a fight
Pacers leading Utah by eight going into the fourth. Utah not looking all that special….
NBA efficiency landscape so far into the season from Kirk Goldsberry. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD7KX_FXIAEuI9z?format=jpg&name=large
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/draymond-green-jordan-poole-warriors-spat-healthy-bob-myers-says?amp
I noticed Iguodala showing “The Glove” a lot of love on the sidelines last night. He must have crossed paths on basketball courts with Payton Sr early in his career. Does anyone know of a personal connection there?
I'm pretty sure FiveThirtyEight's player ratings are not reliable, but they currently have Iguodala as the best defender in the league with at least 150 min played. If you relax the conditions all the way down to 50 minutes played, the list is:
1. Josh Okogie (MIN) +14.3
2. Gary Payton II (GSW) +10.1
3. Ty Jerome (OKC) +8.2
4. Andre Iguodala (+8.2)
Actually Payton is up at *2nd overall in the league* for total RAPTOR, behind only Jokic.
If you look closely, the stats are kind of wack in a lot of ways but they do *sort of* capture a sense of how things have been going for guys lately. Which, for Young Glove, has been "very well".
Just doing some BBall reference research... Wiggins is taking 15% of his shots from mid-range and 38% of his shots from outside the arc, compared to 24% and 35% last year, and 34% and 24% for his career. If this carries over, it's a huge change in his shot profile... and if he can get his 3pt percentage in the 35-37% range, it's kind of a big deal tbh.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wiggian01.html
OT First time I've heard this about LeBron's injury.
>The report that LeBron James might miss up to eight weeks with his abdominal injury must be extremely concerning for the Lakers, whose net rating is 11.1 points per 100 possessions better with him on the court.
This was in a CBS Sports power ranking article that just came out earlier today, which I ran across after reading their article about GPII. Good article.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-have-unlocked-a-monster-in-gary-payton-ii-whose-high-flying-highlights-are-becoming-must-see-tv/?fbclid=IwAR1B1WbMX__X-SYhtxgaqFwdO_ckGcg4ko7DBB_1QD403h6DuhRCNGbryEU
I hope we don't get hit with covid after playing the bulls. Sixers causing a chain reaction
(I’m bring this over from the other thread since this looks like it’s becoming THE thread.)
For discussion: If Dray needs a night off, who do we think gets the start? There are really a lot of options:
1. JTA seems like a good candidate to start. He’s familiar with playing that role and knows how to find Curry. He’s also had his minutes curtailed because of all the depth and it’s looked like he’s pressing trying to make things happen in short minutes. (The game Iggy sat and he got more minutes was a notable exception.) Kerr throwing him a bone and letting him start would send a message that he’s still important/appreciated and would seem like the Kerr thing to do.
2. Iggy would give them playmaking and defense, but they probably don’t want to wear him down to start the game.
3. Bjelly would probably do well, but I’m guessing they want him as the only other 5.
4. I could also see OPJ starting in a sort of KD-esque PF role. He’s give them rebounding, but not a lot of playmaking, but they’d have to rely on Poole and Steph for the play-making.
5. Kuminga??!! Very probably not.
6. Something crazy like sliding Wiggins to PF and starting Lee or Moody at wing is possible, but not likely.
Any other ideas?
Vucevic Out with covid. I would rest Dray now. And dam hope we don’t get any cases of the bulls have more