I was asked the other day what I thought of Wagner as a Michigan alum and the first comp that came to mind was Mike Dunleavy, Jr.
Interestingly, what stands out to me is watching Dunleavy play against Michigan in college — he was EVERYWHERE. He was great playing team defense, almost never made mistakes, and was a well-rounded player. My two big questions with him were similar to those with Wagner: 1) how will he handle the physicality of the NBA? and 2) is he assertive enough?
Obviously, saying that a draft prospect compares favorably to Dunleavy isn’t going to excite any Warriors fans … but he had a 15-year career and was clearly a top 10 prospect in that draft even in retrospect, and had a skill set that would fit pretty well with this current group. Wagner is the better on-ball (college) defender and stands to be a similar shooter over time… so yeah, I can talk myself into him being a solid pick at 7. But I also bring up Dunleavy to temper (my own) expectations— the similarity in watching the two in college is way too stark for me to ignore and, for that reason, I am sort of skeptical that he’ll be a Day 1 contributor in the way some people are thinking …
Wagner, obviously. I like the IQ, passing, and confidence when driving to the basket. Don't like the low release point on his shot, and I think he'll get put on a leash trying to defend good ball handlers, at least at first. But I think he's got a higher floor than lots of guys outside the top 4. Value-wise, I'd prefer him in the 9-13 range if a trade down were possible, and there are a few others I'd get more excited about. But if he's the pick at 7, I'll just be happy that he's not Mitchell.
Wagner. In addition to the defense, this stood out: “ In some systems, he could be a major threat facilitating from the elbow areas, running dribble handoffs with shooters or serve as the ball handler or screener in the pick-and-roll.“ Gotta love playmaking.
As for Jackson, explosive rim runner, we can get Chris’s for cheap, no? It’s not clear that Jackson will be better than Chris’s anytime soon, so hard pass.
I’ll choose Wagner here, but I’m still trying to get myself sold on him. I didn’t realize he was 220; thought he was more of a bean pole. At 6’9” 220, that’s Looney-size. Does anyone know if he’s been officially measured? He isn’t on the combine list.
I don't get the excitement about Wagner, will he be able to defend wings in the NBA with the lack of athleticism? He was great in college but I don't trust his jumper or athleticism
Wagner seems to be a tailor made fit for the Warriors.
I was asked the other day what I thought of Wagner as a Michigan alum and the first comp that came to mind was Mike Dunleavy, Jr.
Interestingly, what stands out to me is watching Dunleavy play against Michigan in college — he was EVERYWHERE. He was great playing team defense, almost never made mistakes, and was a well-rounded player. My two big questions with him were similar to those with Wagner: 1) how will he handle the physicality of the NBA? and 2) is he assertive enough?
Obviously, saying that a draft prospect compares favorably to Dunleavy isn’t going to excite any Warriors fans … but he had a 15-year career and was clearly a top 10 prospect in that draft even in retrospect, and had a skill set that would fit pretty well with this current group. Wagner is the better on-ball (college) defender and stands to be a similar shooter over time… so yeah, I can talk myself into him being a solid pick at 7. But I also bring up Dunleavy to temper (my own) expectations— the similarity in watching the two in college is way too stark for me to ignore and, for that reason, I am sort of skeptical that he’ll be a Day 1 contributor in the way some people are thinking …
There's just so much to love about Wagner.
Versatile defender with great court vision that knocks down 40% of three pointers?
And he's actually younger than many freshman?
Thankyou very much!
Not thrilled with either. Wagner ok at 14.
Wagner please. Good instincts, reads the play well and seems like the kind of player that would capitalize on the chaos generated by Steph.
Wagner, obviously. I like the IQ, passing, and confidence when driving to the basket. Don't like the low release point on his shot, and I think he'll get put on a leash trying to defend good ball handlers, at least at first. But I think he's got a higher floor than lots of guys outside the top 4. Value-wise, I'd prefer him in the 9-13 range if a trade down were possible, and there are a few others I'd get more excited about. But if he's the pick at 7, I'll just be happy that he's not Mitchell.
Wagner. In addition to the defense, this stood out: “ In some systems, he could be a major threat facilitating from the elbow areas, running dribble handoffs with shooters or serve as the ball handler or screener in the pick-and-roll.“ Gotta love playmaking.
As for Jackson, explosive rim runner, we can get Chris’s for cheap, no? It’s not clear that Jackson will be better than Chris’s anytime soon, so hard pass.
I’ll choose Wagner here, but I’m still trying to get myself sold on him. I didn’t realize he was 220; thought he was more of a bean pole. At 6’9” 220, that’s Looney-size. Does anyone know if he’s been officially measured? He isn’t on the combine list.
Wagner!!
Wagner. He's #4 on my big board.
I vote for Wagner
I don't get the excitement about Wagner, will he be able to defend wings in the NBA with the lack of athleticism? He was great in college but I don't trust his jumper or athleticism
Wagner
Since pretty much everyone here wants Wagner, I know he won't be available at #7 :p
Mr Wagner in a walk
Wagner, duh