Happy for 2 reasons....ONE, thrilled the DUB HOMEGROWN 'SHIP CORE remains intact as the NBA's sole dominant trio of the decade; and, TWO, elated, ''ONCE A DUB, ALWAYS A DUB', former Warrior Harrison Barnes betting on himself panned-out, as his solid, all-around, 2-way game, was worth 1/4 of a billion bucks over his playing career.
I’ve mourned his passing (while chuckling) in both Liitle Miss Sunshine and the Kominsky Method. Thinking about him now brings a smile to my face. I’m sure he wouldn’t want it any other way.
Jul 1, 2023·edited Jul 1, 2023Liked by Eric Apricot
In other news, Chasing Rings just finished his first Elementary/Primary teaching rookie season and has agreed to stay on another year with the same organisation that drafted him. Sources say he reached his first break "not completely burnt out and looking forward to a bigger role next season!"
Thanks WDD! Sounds like you can speak from experience? I was meaning it's the first time I've got to a school break without being completely broken! I'm in the Antipodes (our school year runs Jan-Dec and has 4 terms) but I started half way through last year. Taking over a class was really tough too and I felt like Wiseman lost on the court so much! I've worked multiple jobs before and this is for sure thee most demanding one yet!
I want Saric over Len but would prefer both. They had JMG as a stretch 4(Saric) this last year and really needed another backup 5 after JW failed to fill the role.
Question for everyone here, should I update my Google Sheet from last year? It'll take a bit of work confirming any shifts in the new CBA, but shouldn't be too hard. Was it even useful, considering SPOTRAC is pretty spot-on with all the numbers?
For reference - this is the spreadsheet - and hasn't been updated since last offseason:
[Wojnarowski] BREAKING: Memphis Grizzlies G Desmond Bane has agreed on a five-year, $207M max contract extension, his agents Jim Tanner, Max Wiepking and Terrence Felder of @_Tandemse tell ESPN. Grizzlies’ cornerstone players — Ja Morant, Jaren Jackson Jr., and Bane — are secured long-term.
I agree totally. There should have been a discount on those short arms. But if had arms that were more normal for an NBA player, would he have shot as well?
The Blazers being "lukewarm" on Herro's contract seems a lot more relevant to Poole than anything involving FVV or Bane (although I'd guess Herro has a bit more trade value than Poole if/when he does get traded).
You are saying with Poole? It's so hard to say with him. Return to 2021 status and improve, he could be great for the Wizards. Continue on 2022 path as one of the worst players in the NBA, it doesn't matter how much "inflation" there is, it's a terrible contract. For his sake I'll root for the former, but I can't blame MDJ for getting out of the deal
Ok you are probably right, once I typed I knew it was an overstatement. I actually love Poole in some ways. Especially because he brang us a championship. But people love to overreact, and I'm a person. People call Westbrook contracts the worst ever, and honestly Poole can't hold a candle to what Westbrook has done. So whatever.
He may not be the worst, but he still has to prove he is better than the Jamal Crawfords, Jordan Clarksons, Lou Williams of the NBA who have generally been valued rather lowly.
[Wojnarowski] BREAKING: All-Star G Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers are agreed on a five-year, designated maximum contract extension that could be worth up to $260 million, his agents Dave Spahn and Aaron Mintz of @CAASports tell ESPN. Haliburton is fully the franchise cornerstone now.
Well… we won a title in one of the three years since he was drafted… that may not have happened if we’d drafted him, for whatever reason… winning titles is hard.
At this point that 2020 draft is definitely one of the all-time worst use of draft assets for the Dubs in modern franchise history. I mean it's arguably worse than the Joe Smith draft.
Yep. At least Joe Smith had a decent career — for a late first round or second round pick. Unfortunately, we took him #1. And he had his best seasons at the start, with us. After that it was a long, slow slide. But we've done worse. Todd Fuller was #11 and utterly worthless. And need I mention Chris Washburn with the 3rd pick? Now THAT guy was a bust (in more ways than one).
[Jackson] Though Oladipo could have been used in Lillard trade, there are still several paths to make money work with Lillard deal if he ever requests a trade, and you can't turn down chance to offload that Vic money, which saves more than 25 M in taxes.
Kyrie Irving has agreed to a three-year, $126 million deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, his agent Shetellia Riley-Irving told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne on Friday.
In unrelated news, Luka Doncic has announced that he is re-signing with Real Madrid, which signed him at age 13 and first propelled him to stardom.
"I really enjoyed my time in Dallas," Doncic said from aboard the first flight out of town. "But I feel that a regressive move is best for me at this time."
Happy for 2 reasons....ONE, thrilled the DUB HOMEGROWN 'SHIP CORE remains intact as the NBA's sole dominant trio of the decade; and, TWO, elated, ''ONCE A DUB, ALWAYS A DUB', former Warrior Harrison Barnes betting on himself panned-out, as his solid, all-around, 2-way game, was worth 1/4 of a billion bucks over his playing career.
A moment of silence for Alan Arkin. 1934-2023.
I’ve mourned his passing (while chuckling) in both Liitle Miss Sunshine and the Kominsky Method. Thinking about him now brings a smile to my face. I’m sure he wouldn’t want it any other way.
Sad to hear. Was actually thinking about him a couple of days ago. RIP to a great one
3 more years!!
In other news, Chasing Rings just finished his first Elementary/Primary teaching rookie season and has agreed to stay on another year with the same organisation that drafted him. Sources say he reached his first break "not completely burnt out and looking forward to a bigger role next season!"
Welcome to the big leagues! We need more of you! ( And that first year is trial by fire) congratulations!
But wait.. its July. Your school just finished?
Thanks WDD! Sounds like you can speak from experience? I was meaning it's the first time I've got to a school break without being completely broken! I'm in the Antipodes (our school year runs Jan-Dec and has 4 terms) but I started half way through last year. Taking over a class was really tough too and I felt like Wiseman lost on the court so much! I've worked multiple jobs before and this is for sure thee most demanding one yet!
Chris Duarte to kings for draft comp. I remember some ppl here were fairly high on him on draft day.
I'd still rather have MM, glad the Pacers didn't give Joey that choice
Including Joey Lightyears!
Jeff Van Grundy is fired from ESPN! Hopefully mark Jackson is next
and then Fitz and Kelenna
Mama. There goes that man.
remind me, we *don't* get to use the TPMLE this year? or that kicks in next year?
but is that due to rule or Lacob-imposed?
By rule. But we might not have wanted to use it anyway.
Pretty sure that's the second-apron rule that kicks in immediately.
As I recall it's because we are over the first apron (not the second) under the new CBA, and it is in effect now.
I kinda want Jae Crowder and Pat Bev after Saric. Actually, I'd take Len over Crowder if that doesn't scare Saric away.
Crowder doesn’t seem like a good locker room type of guy especially once Steve gives him a few DNP-CD
Yay another Len-i-Stan! Id take Len as my big man over Saric though
I want Saric over Len but would prefer both. They had JMG as a stretch 4(Saric) this last year and really needed another backup 5 after JW failed to fill the role.
Salary Cap is Officially Set:
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/06/salary-cap-tax-line-set-for-2023-24-nba-season.html
Salary cap: $136,021,000
Luxury tax line: $165,294,000
First tax apron: $172,346,000
Second tax apron: $182,794,000
Minimum salary floor: $122,418,000
Non-taxpayer mid-level exception: $12,405,000
Taxpayer mid-level exception: $5,000,000
Room exception: $7,723,000
Maximum salaries:
6 years or fewer: $34,005,250
7-9 years: $40,806,300
10+ years: $47,607,350
Early Bird exception: $12,015,150
Estimated average salary: $11,958,000
Trade cash limit: $6,999,000
Question for everyone here, should I update my Google Sheet from last year? It'll take a bit of work confirming any shifts in the new CBA, but shouldn't be too hard. Was it even useful, considering SPOTRAC is pretty spot-on with all the numbers?
For reference - this is the spreadsheet - and hasn't been updated since last offseason:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JKTDRR_YbjX8S_xebph8qIEDd6b1-dBvlbeUHc1lD04/edit#gid=0
Maybe check out Perks's work and see how to complement / improve it...?
https://twitter.com/gswcba/status/1674838052739645440?s=20
I’ll take a look
Teams with cap space > NTPMLE:
Spurs have up to $31M.
Rockets have up to $25M.
Pacers have up to $14M.
Kings have up to $13.6M.
Teams with full NTPMLE (12 teams): DAL, MIL, DEN, PHI, CHA, WAS, POR, NYK, SAC, MEM, BKN, POR.
There's still space for at least 15ish players to get paid by other teams.
Also, don’t the lakers still have their NTPMLE
Damn DEN, SAC m, MEM still have that much space left!
Do non-contenders have any incentive to use their NTPMLE if they're over the salary floor?
If not, CHA, WAS, and potentially POR may all not use their NTPMLE. And lol BKN.
[Wojnarowski] BREAKING: Memphis Grizzlies G Desmond Bane has agreed on a five-year, $207M max contract extension, his agents Jim Tanner, Max Wiepking and Terrence Felder of @_Tandemse tell ESPN. Grizzlies’ cornerstone players — Ja Morant, Jaren Jackson Jr., and Bane — are secured long-term.
Memphis won't sniff the conference finals in the next decade lol 40 million per year for t Rex arms is wild
I agree totally. There should have been a discount on those short arms. But if had arms that were more normal for an NBA player, would he have shot as well?
This contract is bigger than Ja Morant's 5 year/$197.2 million max contract.
Inflation. MDJ def. mis-judged the market, IMO.
Who's MDJ?
(jk, Mike Dunleavy Jr.)
Michael Dorter Jr.
Michael Deffrey Jordan
The Blazers being "lukewarm" on Herro's contract seems a lot more relevant to Poole than anything involving FVV or Bane (although I'd guess Herro has a bit more trade value than Poole if/when he does get traded).
Not familiar with this rumor or the nuances associated with evaluation of Herro's contract.
You are saying with Poole? It's so hard to say with him. Return to 2021 status and improve, he could be great for the Wizards. Continue on 2022 path as one of the worst players in the NBA, it doesn't matter how much "inflation" there is, it's a terrible contract. For his sake I'll root for the former, but I can't blame MDJ for getting out of the deal
One of the worst players in the NBA is def. over stating it.
Ok you are probably right, once I typed I knew it was an overstatement. I actually love Poole in some ways. Especially because he brang us a championship. But people love to overreact, and I'm a person. People call Westbrook contracts the worst ever, and honestly Poole can't hold a candle to what Westbrook has done. So whatever.
He may not be the worst, but he still has to prove he is better than the Jamal Crawfords, Jordan Clarksons, Lou Williams of the NBA who have generally been valued rather lowly.
[Wojnarowski] BREAKING: All-Star G Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers are agreed on a five-year, designated maximum contract extension that could be worth up to $260 million, his agents Dave Spahn and Aaron Mintz of @CAASports tell ESPN. Haliburton is fully the franchise cornerstone now.
I will never not wonder what could have been.
You already have.....
Well… we won a title in one of the three years since he was drafted… that may not have happened if we’d drafted him, for whatever reason… winning titles is hard.
Understandable but we could say that about a lot of drafts.
At this point that 2020 draft is definitely one of the all-time worst use of draft assets for the Dubs in modern franchise history. I mean it's arguably worse than the Joe Smith draft.
Yep. At least Joe Smith had a decent career — for a late first round or second round pick. Unfortunately, we took him #1. And he had his best seasons at the start, with us. After that it was a long, slow slide. But we've done worse. Todd Fuller was #11 and utterly worthless. And need I mention Chris Washburn with the 3rd pick? Now THAT guy was a bust (in more ways than one).
Holy shit we would not be able to afford that. But… we’d have our next cornerstone…
meh. JP's contract slot + the old wiseman slot + the haircut from Dray is probably equivalent - at least in the early years.
😢
Good for Ty 🙌🏻
I had to scroll up, I thought Ty Jerome got taken!!
[Jackson] Though Oladipo could have been used in Lillard trade, there are still several paths to make money work with Lillard deal if he ever requests a trade, and you can't turn down chance to offload that Vic money, which saves more than 25 M in taxes.
Kyrie Irving has agreed to a three-year, $126 million deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, his agent Shetellia Riley-Irving told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne on Friday.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37941092/sources-kyrie-irving-return-mavericks-3-year-deal
In unrelated news, Luka Doncic has announced that he is re-signing with Real Madrid, which signed him at age 13 and first propelled him to stardom.
"I really enjoyed my time in Dallas," Doncic said from aboard the first flight out of town. "But I feel that a regressive move is best for me at this time."
You know what might be sneakily good? A Chris Paul - Dario Saric two-man game.
You know what might be unsneakliy bad? A Chris Paul - Dario Saric defensive duo.
I’d flip it. Chris Paul and Dario Saric on offense should be obviously good.
What’s sneaky is that Saric is a decent defender and CP3 with a minute count playing against backups might turn back the clock a bit on D.
That's def. worth noting, and something I didn't think about before - CP will get lots of defensive minutes against rotation players and not starters.
I mean his defensive value immediately goes up just by the fact that he no longer has to guard Steph!
A shooting big opens up the floor so much for GP2, Wiggins and kuminga we don't even have to worry about defense.
Imagine a cp3, klay, Wiggins, kuminga, saric lineup lol
I'm bored
Cant wait for the season to start - all this trade and fee agency stuff is boring - get on the court already 😁
starting Monday night in Sacramento
That's definitional.
You're here, aren't you?
sometimes I'm excited to be here! but that could be pathological
I'm flattered, but I've never been interested in that particular experience