Jul 16, 2021Liked by punk basketball, Daniel Hardee
Awful lot of "woe is us" in that video about a team that finished as the 8th seed (in a normal year) and came within 2 games of making the playoffs anyway without their 2nd best player. I agree that the Warriors should go after the highest ceiling players available with t the 7th and 14th pick, it's not clear to me players like Wagner and Kispert, if they are indeed available at 14, won't also have the highest ceiling of the players left to pick. And even if they aren't ready for the playoffs as rookies, those guys, as well as a guy like Moody at 7, can have value soaking up minutes in non-competitive games so the stars can get some rest. Finally, any discussion about trading the picks for a player that really does move the needle needs to take into account the Warriors cap situation especially since whoever they get has to add value above and beyond what they got from Wiggins.
I dont get the kuminga is just an athlete take here, have you really seen him play? To say he has no basketball skills is insane, he's shown flashes of being a solid passer and handler st that size, a mid range game, shoots the 3 with confidence and could be a game changing defender with his size and athleticism. Bring him in here with our coaching and culture and I dont see why he doesn't flourish
Damian Lillard says after @usabasketball practice that reports he has plans to soon request a trade are "not true."
There has been "no firm decision on what my future will be," Lillard added.
Calling for more urgency from Blazers officials in assembling a contending team, Lillard says there are "a lot of positives" in Portland but "it's not enough."
> League sources say the Magic are high on Florida State forward Scottie Barnes with the fifth pick, while the Thunder prefer Barnes or UConn guard James Bouknight with the sixth selection.
> Jonathan Kuminga, ranked fifth on most big boards after playing one season in the G League alongside Green, has been scarcely mentioned in league circles as a favorite to be selected by Orlando or Oklahoma City. Could he slip seventh to the Warriors?
Also, what makes us think Dame is going to force his way out (I still want to see the solid source on this), just to end up in GSW? If you were Dame, wouldn’t you rather go somewhere like PHI or BOS or even (ugh) LAL, where the best player isn’t at the same position as you?
I'm intrigued by everyone saying other teams can offer better packages. Counting Wiseman, the Warriors effectively have three lottery picks able to start right away, that's a pretty good start at a "rebuild", plus Poole. If a team is actually looking to rebuild that has to be a pretty attractive option in comparison to packages with future assets 2-3 years down the line and/or more established players. Please help educate me on what I'm missing here.
My big takeaway from the EvanZ Vidcast is this compelling line of reasoning:
With Klay’s return, GSW will be a contender. So most rookies won’t move the needle. So either trade the picks for real help, or pick a high ceiling guy who could conceivably contribute in a simple role.
DH - ‘LaMelo has been in a basketball boot camp since he was 3’ LOL
I wonder what Steph, Dray, Klay, and Kerr think about the prospect of adding Dame. That would totally dictate how I feel about it.
Awful lot of "woe is us" in that video about a team that finished as the 8th seed (in a normal year) and came within 2 games of making the playoffs anyway without their 2nd best player. I agree that the Warriors should go after the highest ceiling players available with t the 7th and 14th pick, it's not clear to me players like Wagner and Kispert, if they are indeed available at 14, won't also have the highest ceiling of the players left to pick. And even if they aren't ready for the playoffs as rookies, those guys, as well as a guy like Moody at 7, can have value soaking up minutes in non-competitive games so the stars can get some rest. Finally, any discussion about trading the picks for a player that really does move the needle needs to take into account the Warriors cap situation especially since whoever they get has to add value above and beyond what they got from Wiggins.
I dont get the kuminga is just an athlete take here, have you really seen him play? To say he has no basketball skills is insane, he's shown flashes of being a solid passer and handler st that size, a mid range game, shoots the 3 with confidence and could be a game changing defender with his size and athleticism. Bring him in here with our coaching and culture and I dont see why he doesn't flourish
No surprise (to me) here:
Damian Lillard says after @usabasketball practice that reports he has plans to soon request a trade are "not true."
There has been "no firm decision on what my future will be," Lillard added.
Calling for more urgency from Blazers officials in assembling a contending team, Lillard says there are "a lot of positives" in Portland but "it's not enough."
https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/1416136635939319810?s=21
ESPN+: Wiseman, 7, 14 + 2022 Pick for #1 (Cunningham), McGruder, and 2nd round pick
Who says no?
I will be disappointed if we don’t get a crack at Bouknight. Him & Barnes are top of my list. Closely followed by our boy MMOODDYYY
https://www.theringer.com/2021/7/16/22579643/nba-draft-houston-rockets-cade-cunningham-jalen-green-evan-mobley
> League sources say the Magic are high on Florida State forward Scottie Barnes with the fifth pick, while the Thunder prefer Barnes or UConn guard James Bouknight with the sixth selection.
> Jonathan Kuminga, ranked fifth on most big boards after playing one season in the G League alongside Green, has been scarcely mentioned in league circles as a favorite to be selected by Orlando or Oklahoma City. Could he slip seventh to the Warriors?
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If Kuminga falls to 7, would people want the Warriors to take him?
Also, what makes us think Dame is going to force his way out (I still want to see the solid source on this), just to end up in GSW? If you were Dame, wouldn’t you rather go somewhere like PHI or BOS or even (ugh) LAL, where the best player isn’t at the same position as you?
Team USA is better off with Keldon Johnson than Bradley Beal, that's my scorching hot take.
Okay, Duby was joking to me earlier about making an emergency post about Lillard. It’s starting to look necessary.
And as I am so far the loudest voice of “Warriors package of Wiggins/Wise/Poole/picks will be outbid”, I should produce examples of better packages. I’m not sure I have time, but this article is a good starter: https://sports.yahoo.com/best-trade-packages-damian-lillard-023503827.html
Offers of picks plus (Jaylen Brown, Ben Simmons, Siakam, Brandon Ingram) just seem way more attractive to me.
Evan Z, from left field!!
> @thecity2
Wiggins, 7, 14, Wiseman for CJ/Nurkic... Pay Oubre. Just a thought.
I kinda like this one more honestly.
CJ probably takes less to get, and Nurk (if he's healthy) does a lot to fix our center position.
Oubre is... complicated. I'm not sure that I see him as a fit here any more
I'm intrigued by everyone saying other teams can offer better packages. Counting Wiseman, the Warriors effectively have three lottery picks able to start right away, that's a pretty good start at a "rebuild", plus Poole. If a team is actually looking to rebuild that has to be a pretty attractive option in comparison to packages with future assets 2-3 years down the line and/or more established players. Please help educate me on what I'm missing here.
OFFICIALLY LESS THAN 2 WEEKS UNTIL THE DRAFT!
https://mobile.twitter.com/BarryBondz/status/1416048190986596352
My big takeaway from the EvanZ Vidcast is this compelling line of reasoning:
With Klay’s return, GSW will be a contender. So most rookies won’t move the needle. So either trade the picks for real help, or pick a high ceiling guy who could conceivably contribute in a simple role.