DNHQ Rooting Guide: NBA Finals, Boston vs. Dallas; plus open thread
Steph's most famous Finals victim vs the team which hasn't lost in the playoffs since... Steph
See the master index at Dub Nation HQ Rooting Guide For Other Teams.
If Dallas wins, Steph and the Warriors will be the last team to beat them in the playoffs (2022). If Boston wins, Steph and the Warriors win in 2022 looks even better in retrospect. So, from a reflected glory perspective, GSW wins either way.
Boston Celtics
Ex-Warriors
None.
Friends
Jrue Holiday. Hard working, great defender, two-way talent. Fierce rival, but also a big public fan of Stephen Curry.
Steph Curry and Jayson Tatum seem to have some mutual respect.
Warriors Villains
None.
Petty Rivalries
Jaylen Brown went to Cal if you care about that.
Abaddon writes: in the great Steph/Kyrie duel in 2018(?) Steph was seen visibly flapping his right hand at Brown after hitting a three over and around his defense. He also was jawing at Brown. It was a while ago and I’m not sure if there’s been anything since, but it is so rare to see Steph directly taunting someone that it sticks out in my memory.
Jaylen seems to drifting into Kyrie-lite territory. He also seems to be sowing all kinds of internal turmoil in BOS, which you may regard as uncool or helpful for GSW.
Team Grudges
The 2022 Finals were bitterly fought and the BOS fans really brought the bile in antagonizing Draymond Green. But that’s sports for you. It worked to throw Dray off his game and also made Steph elevate his game in the legendary Game 4.
Long history of racism from Celtics fans.
Isaiah Thomas played through his sister’s death and various injuries at the cost of his career and was immediately dumped by BOS for Kyrie Irving. Pretty shocking move even if the league’s motto is “It’s Just A Business”.
Celtics fans talk a lot about their many championships, omitting the fact that they’ve won 1 championship since 1986, and most of the previous ones came from Red Auerbach ripping off other hobbyist owners when the league was eight teams that could barely get a highlight on TV.
Dallas Mavericks
Ex-Warriors
Tim Hardaway Jr is the son of Warriors great… wait for it… Tim Hardaway.
Friends
For completeness, I will list Coach Jason Kidd’s local connection to Cal basketball and growing up in Oakland.
Warriors Villains
None, yet.
Petty Rivalries
Luka Doncic was hailed as the successor and supplanter of Steph and everyone else for MVP consideration. Despite eye-popping box scores, somehow his teams have never gotten over the hump to the Finals. Luka’s flopping game seems to be getting more prominent as he gets to play more important games.
Kyrie Irving. Hit the Finals-winning shot in 2016, then
forced his way out of Cleveland to get away from all the LeBron-stan reporters wanting him to appreciate LeBron’s being his father figure(?!?!),
got more of a reputation as a team-killer by joining a strong Celtics team and dragging it down,
perplexed everyone with his dedication/trolling about flat-earth crackpotism,
conspired with KD to form a superteam with the Nets,
endangered the public by publicly being anti-vaccination while torpedoing the Nets season by not getting shots,
was so unprofessional and annoying that he triggered James Harden into blowing up the superteam,
and dragged down the 2023 DAL team out of the playoffs.
So on balance, even though KI has been a public menace, basketball-wise, Kyrie has done huge amounts for the GSW cause by sabotaging outstanding rival teams. There is an argument about whether Kyrie, Harden of Kawhi deserves the Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend prize.Mark Cuban has had some back and forth with Draymond and others, but it doesn’t seem specifically about the Warriors. He even said KD joining the Warriors was good for the NBA.
Team Grudges
If anyone should have a grudge, it’s DAL. After all, GSW most recently beat DAL in the 2022 WCF. In fact, as of the 2024 Finals, the last team to beat Dallas in the playoffs was… GSW.
And before that of course, GSW We-Believed them out of the 2007 playoffs and ruined Dirk Nowitzki’s MVP season.
Daniel writes at https://dubnationhq.com/p/kristaps-porzingis-taking-over-game
Apparently it is a sure thing that Jimmy Butler is going to be traded to the Warriors because he went to a concert at Stanford and ate sushi n Palo Alto. I'm fairly certain that this is typical off season nonsense as to make the salaries work out the Warriors would have to waive all of CP3's salary and trade a package like Wiggins, Looney, Kuminga, Moody and the rights to Garuba to the Heat. Jimmy Butler is a *very* good player and assuming Klay comes back at Curry, Thompson, Butler, Green, TJD starting 5 would in theory be as good as anybody. However, would you really want to sell all of your depth and future players for 2 years of well over 30 stars? I just can't see them getting through a season more or less intact.
[Edit: It would also be a bet the MDJ is a more savy evaluator of talent than Pat Riley and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't take that bet]