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Saw a trade proposal: Lillard for Simmons, Maxey, future 1st. Actually seems to make sense, maybe an additional 1st from the 76ers for Lillard?

I mean, if Morey has Wiggins, wiseman, and 4 first round picks, wouldn’t be trade all of that for Lillard in a heartbeat?

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No sure if this has already been posted but looks like DeAndre Jordan is also heading to Lalkers!!

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32141027/brooklyn-nets-trade-deandre-jordan-detroit-pistons-plan-seek-buyout-sources-say

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Wait they have Dwight AND DeAndre? Lol.

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And Gasol.

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Yeah, it does make you want to cry foul.

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Apparently Okafor was part of the deal and is expected to be waived. Weak defense, post-up offense big man - the opposite of Looney. Possible match up dependent fit for W’s down the depth chart? Or sloppy disaster best avoided?

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SDBA*

*sloppy disaster best avoided

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how about we just take an NBA wide vote on whether the Lakers or the Nets are the most impressive on paper, give that team a paper mache trophy, and then the other 28 franchises that are actually interested in building a sustainable franchise can go off and play for the actual championship.

Bubble season, Everyone-is-broken season, and now the Vet-min All-stars season. Can the NBA just TRY to create a respectable product? just for fun?

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Let’s see them win it before complaining too hard…

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NICE!!

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Feel free to buy Gasol out, LA

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Guessing his body is fine. He’s been in the Jevovah’s Witness Protection Program.

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🤦‍♂️😡

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Hey all, just FYI:

If Goofus' post get enough ❤️s, Eric will be forced to feature it in the weekly "comments of the week" post.

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True, but he can always preface it with “THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY FVCKING TERRIBLE.”

Which of course is the highest possible praise for a pun. :-)

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Indeed, there shall be no victory for Eric over the scourge of puns that hath runneth over this message board.

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😠😤😖🤬

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Bring guys into camp. Evaluate them. Makes sense to me. But I’m sure glad that when I ran interview/recruiting processes I didn’t have a bunch of outside analysts looking over my shoulder getting ready to publicly proclaim how stupid I was!

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Winning is the best answer to critics who proclaim how stupid one is.

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Complication is that other teams may make a guarantee first… like the JaQuori got grabbed by DAL

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Yeah, I think they’re going to have to “yeah” or “nay” on him right away. If he’s looking good, he’ll find someone else that won’t make him compete for the 15th spot.

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I count 17 signed players on the roster. Only 15 can be carried. Two are allowed 2 way contracts and Chiozza is one of them. This means that 3 players will be let go in order to sign Collison. Mulder , GP2, Lee? What do you think?

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Hmm, I count 14 plus one 2-way (Chiozza). Lee is one of the 14. So they get to sign one of Collison, Mulder and GP2. Plus another 2-way.

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Real GM lists 17. They seem correct. Check it out.

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14 guaranteed contracts

+2 non-guaranteed (Mulder and GP2)

+1 two-way (Chiozza)

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17 names you see on Real GM

The 15th spot will be one of Mulder, GP2, DC, someone else or no one (leave it open for now)

They’ll still have a 2-way to play with but Mulder, GP2 and DC are not eligible for it.

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I count 14 roster spots plus 2 non-guaranteed (Mulder, GP2), 1 2-way (Chiozza)

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I never thought he was in the running for the Dubs. In any case, no comparison to Collison. I wouldn't mind seeing him on the Dubs and his career stats are very impressive. At least he used to be able to play at a high level!

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Darn, didn’t see that. I liked that guy.

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Kris Dunn is probably gonna be bough out or traded for very little. I think he'd be a great pickup for us as a POA defender for guards and small wings.

For a trade, matching his $5 million salary is tricky as we don't really have tradable contracts in that range (we're never trading Looney/Moody for him and rightly so).

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He can definitely guard. Kinda like a better passing, better rebounding, better defending, worse FT% shooting Wanamaker lol.

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He's pretty close to best case version of what GP2 would be. Year prior he was close to a Tony Allen level defender with just as broken a jump shot, but better in ballhandling and passing.

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GP2 is 70% from three since joining the Warriors (*cough* on 10 attempts *cough*), he's a sharpshooter.

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Dunn has kind of a weird statistical profile, basically Draymond Green without the size. I'm not convinced it is a great fit.

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I just looked at his shooting numbers. Less great now lol.

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I don't know what happened in Atlanta but his a*s was glued to the bench.

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He was injured for basically the entire season. Made his debut in late April.

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Atlanta have a gazillion rotation-worthy guards/wings though. They have Trae/Bogi/Lou/Huerter/Hunter/Reddish/Gallo and probably more I'm forgetting.

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Maybe his lack of shooting didn't fit well with the guys.

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I don’t want to be rude, but i don’t have a clue who is he, Collison is like our new Wanamaker?

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thanks guys, if he is closer to Patty Mills than Wanamaker it's worth a look :)

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Before retiring for religious reason, Collison was a low-end starting PG in the league. Wana is a low-end end of bench guy.

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Not even close. When Collison was still playing he proved year in and year out to be a guy that can be counted on. Efficient on the offensive end and has a high defensive IQ as well. He also improved on his shooting even more as his career progressed.

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Not close. He’s closer to a young(er) CP3 than he is Wanamaker. Miles better athlete, passer, playmaker, and shooter than Brad. Leading the league in 3FG% and ast/tov ratio is no joke.

Pious Patty Mills is a much better comp. :-)

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(I mean, who knows how pious Patty Mills is, but no one is as pious as our DC!)

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

Fact: Patty Mills has not yet retired from basketball to pursue pious goals.

Conclusion: The bar is super duper high, but DC is definitely more pious than Patty Mills

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

I've been stalking DC's Instagram page and man, I love watching the clips of him teaching basketball. Very knowledgeable about the game and seems like a guy that plays with a sense of joy like Steph . He'll fit in great with us if he's still in shape.

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re the Laker's not signing him, maybe he is not as good as Rondo. The key metric for me is how much better he is compared to Chiozza who is listed as 5'11. Is he better than Avery Bradley?

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They might have chose Rondo over him due to familiarity. When in NBA shape Chiozza can't even compare to DC and Bradley isn't all around better IMO. At age 32 it's not really that old in the modern NBA anymore so if he hasn't completely forgot to play basketball he'll be a very sneaky good signing because he's been consistently good his entire career.

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Oh crap, he retired at 32 and is now 34. Well, still not THAT old

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Way better than Rondo or Chiozza. And Avery Bradley is not a PG — more like a shrunken down 3. His career assist rates make Bjelica look John Stockton. Imagine being 6-3 and never once being able to dish as many as 3 assists per 36 minutes?

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*a shrunken down 3 who does not rebound

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Yeah, I don't get when people throw Bradley into the PG category. He's just an undersized shooting guard.

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...who's not very good at shooting

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Synergy and injury risk aside (yes, that is a big part to set aside), on paper it might be true — KD cancels out, and beyond that, when healthy, Kyrie and Harden can both be centerpieces of a team, in a way that Klay and Dray can’t exist in isolation. But the warriors have really good complementarity and synergy...

Still, just want to see the warriors smack both teams. Hoping for the day when warriors field six all stars!

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They probably have the slight edge offensively, but defensively the difference between the 2004 Pistons and the 2017 Warriors is less than the difference between the 2017 Warriors and the Current Nets.

And of course, we'd have the best player in the series which always helps.

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Um...there's a Steph Curry dude you forgot about in that comparison. Klay and Dray should be compared to Kyrie and Harris. And I will say, offensively, the Nets may be comparable. Defensively? Not even close.

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Right. What I meant is that Steph is clearly better, but I’m not sure he’s worth 2x Hardens. Also, I was trying to be charitable to the hot takes, looking at things just on paper. I personally agree that Klay > Irving overall, especially with injury concerns, but the popular wisdom is still that you can make Irving the centerpiece of a team, and hence Irving > Klay. Again, I’m talking about popular wisdom, which I have very low esteem of. I think Irving’s ineffectiveness in Boston is in line with the assessment that Irving can’t be the focal point of a team, and that Klay vs Irving is the fairer face off.

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Steph is only 2X better than Harden in the 4th quarter and/or an elimination game.

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Time to get him working with Milojevic. His spin move + athleticism/agility shows that he can be devastatingly effective in the post but he desperately needs to work on his footwork.

Defensive is always going to be a work in progress, but hopefully just knowing the system + the advantage of having camp will result in an improvement to league average.

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😑

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I dont get it. Also how is wiseman going to get any g league minutes if we only have 3 centers on the roster?

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Wiseman's not going to the g league

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Which is dumb considering they threw poole down there even though he showed he can play end of his rookie year, before his second season and at the start of his season

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Man....

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Warriors not being interested at all must mean Wiseman looking real good leading into his injury re-evaluation, right?

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You are probably right, hard to see another justification for the current situation. But personally, I don't really understand what they could have seen to make them confident. Wiseman's issues happen in a 5 on 5 setting, not in workouts. Has he even played in a 5 on 5 setting because of his injury?

Their refusal (so far) to get a starting center is wild me, feels like they are gambling the season on if 6'9 220 pound Kevon Looney with his injury history can stay healthy playing like 20-25 minutes a night. But we'll see, offseason isn't over yet. Not going to judge until the roster is finalized.

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Just a theory. We expect limited minutes from Wiseman up front. A Very Easy schedule with lots of home games to start the season. Would the Warriors thought process be as follows:

Let's start this season the way we ended last season, not screw around much, limit rotations, and try and bank these wins.

That means Steph-Lee-Poole-Wiggs-JTA-Loon with heavy minutes for Andre and the 2 new vets, OPJ & Belly. That's a 9-man rotation.

Once Kerr sees the new vets are dialed in, then the rotations can expand.

Not sure how they will go about it, but I do believe they want to attack the first part of the schedule and risk losing winnable games because they are 'experimenting'.

Just a thought.

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We should expect the team rotations to be settled mostly by training camp and preseason, and we should expect them to not mess around much with “developing in season”

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i mean "Not risk"

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Gotta figure they are looking at the Gasol-Lakers situation and ready to pounce if Marc is available.

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That's a sweet dream. Gasol on a one-year deal would be perfect for us.

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I think their thinking is that they just want to remove any fail safes to boost Wisemans confidence in essence telling him that they are pushing all the chips in on his development

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Honestly, its quite simple. They have 4 centers in Looney/Bjelly/Wiseman/Dray . . . and they think that is enough. Adding another center would waste a spot and steal minutes from their extremely valuable 2nd overall pick who needs to develop. Three quality centers in Looney/Bjelly/Dray is enough along with a developmental prospect.

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Don't forget Kuminga in the small ball 5 roll. We got great minutes out of Paschall last year in that roll. Even JTA logged a few minutes. I think it's just part of the Warriors DNA to "wing it" as far as their center rotations go.

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I doubt that’s how it works.

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Or I guess, the Warriors want a Zaza-type older vet.

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Hope he succeeds up there. Good luck Quese

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Would love to see him dunk a lob from Lillard against the Warriors. ;-)

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For sure. I’m not too upset for us as I trust Kerr, Myers and co. understand what we need. I am really happy for Chriss. I feel like he deserves some luck.

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Awwwwwww.

Writing was on the wall, but I’m sad. Wonder if that means we’re pretty far down the road with Collison or GP2.

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I’m sad too

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

He hasn't played in 2 years because he's loyal to Klay. A basketball world without Klay isn't a basketball world DC wants to play in.

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

He’s an orthodox Klaytheist.

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by punk basketball

The purpose being creating the greatest three-point shooting lineup in NBA history: Steph, Collison, Klay, OPJ, Bjelly?

Career best 3fg% of that crew (min. 200 attempts):

.468 Collison

.454 Curry (on a measly 886 attempts)

.441 Porter Jr.

.440 Thompson

.419 Bjelica (laggard)

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Seriously, if the right guys take the bulk of the shots, couldn’t the flirt with 40% as a team?

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This made me go look at our history... I figured with KD, Steph, and Klay we would've at least cracked 40% once... but not during those years... 38-39%. BUT, the 2015-16 team did: 41.6% as a team.

Steph and Klay carrying the load... Dray and Barnes being 3rd and 4th by volume... both shooting at 38%. So I think you're right... we'd probably easily crack 40% as a team...

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Doesn't Steph have like 6000+ attempts?

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Best single year stats...

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Purposeful cherry picking :)

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Ha. Indeed.

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Now, we take this to its logical conclusion, and the Warriors should have an offense somewhere around 155 ORTG.

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You mean bringing back the dynasty era mojo?

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