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It’s a long shot, but I wonder how Aron Baynes is going in the Aussie league? If he’s recovered from his injury he might be worth a look

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I'm getting the feeling I may need to have the 'ice cream of roster disappointment' sometime next week.

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hope we see something tmr

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We are. Taking the kids to watch Elemental. You are welcome to join us

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Have fun fam!! Heard it’s a good movie.

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Hoping we see TJD tomorrow

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And hopefully Keehones' rebirth as Quiñones once we get professional announcers!

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I laughed the first time I heard that. But when it was happening in game 2, I got kind of mad. It's shocking that they haven't learned to say the guy's name.

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And now it's been repeated so many times that my mind's first response is to recognize it as a proper pronunciation, and I have to consciously correct myself... absolutely infuriating. Also incredible that nobody talked to him during halftime of the first game, let alone at any later point...

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I thought Barnes was a professional.

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

I wouldn't be surprised if Emmanuel is traded for a piece that fits the Warriors a lot more. While older than Poole, his contract is a lot smaller in length and therefore more palatable.

I would love to do a trade with the Jazz for Jordan Clarkson and Kelly Olynk. Clarkson can be our off the bench microwave scorer (he has lots of experience with that) while Olynk can provide spacing for Dray/Loon/Kuminga giving us a big body. Emmanuel is a better individual player than both of them, but in terms of fit + giving us more depth in terms of roster it wouldn't be a bad move.

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Hahaha noo if CP3 gives us a healthy post season I like this trade.

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You mean his history, where he's averaged 36.5 minutes per game in the playoffs for his career, with 20pt/4.5r/8.3a averages on 48.4%/37.3%/85.4% shooting splits?

I know there's been a lot of antipathy towards Paul over the years, from myself included, but this narrative is ridiculous and deserves more pushback than it's gotten here. Like, breaking news, a small, physical guard who's played a ton of minutes over almost two decades' worth of NBA regular seasons and postseasons has had some injuries. He's played through most of them, even in his mid/late thirties, which was probably never in his best interest but was in the best interest of his team.

Would we all like to have fewer concerns about, say, his hamstring being balky? Yeah, sure. But in the Suns' Finals run, for example, he played through a shoulder contusion in R1 G1, didn't miss any time despite re-aggravating it in game 5, missed two games in the WCF with Covid-19, then played through partially torn ligaments in his left hand in the NBA Finals, which required surgery after the season ended. That was as a 35 year-old.

If you used actual sources, you might have noticed that he's been generally excellent in the playoffs, generally available albeit banged up at times, and that he profiles pretty nicely as someone who will really benefit from not having to play heavy minutes as the starting point guard.

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

He has played well in the playoffs, though last year he had a major dropoff in scoring.

The issue is: can he get through an entire playoffs without a playoff-ending injury?

This year is a grand experiment to see if his injuries are preventable by better minutes management, or age-related, and beyond helping.

I would be lying if I said I know, but I'll feel a lot better about our PG rotation for the playoffs if we are able to keep Lester and sign him to a main roster contract. He's got enough game that he can help us if Paul is out. And I doubt we would lose much (if anything) on the defensive side.

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But he should be playing like 20 minutes a game during the season instead of 33.

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:( hope not

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Since CP3 has never come off the bench, there's no data to support your argument that he's guaranteed to get injured after coming off the bench on games taking place on the 3rd Wednesday of the month after Steph had a <40% 3P% while Klay had a >50% 3P%, and Dray had at least 5 rebounds in every game...

Woah, sorry... got a little baseball mind there.

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[Wojnarowski] Free agent F Montrezl Harrell has agreed on a one-year deal to return to the Philadelphia 76ers, sources tell ESPN. (/end thread)

Sixers fans in r/NBA are NOT happy about this.

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Some teams load themselves with 4-5 centers. We can’t get one to take one of our remaining roster spots lol

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It does seem ludicrous. But maybe they don't trust that a true big will get off the bench for GS when it matters. They might be right.

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> Some teams load themselves with 4-5 centers.

I still remember fans complaining about how many centers the Warriors had in the KD years.

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It feels like they’re traumatized by that and have gone in the complete opposite direction. And/or they can’t find any bigs who fit their desired standards

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This Saric situation seems quite awkward. If there's a team Saric would rather play for under certain circumstances (ie Heat if they get Dame), then Warriors should just pivot to the next option. Holding on hope to be someone's second choice doesn't seem like a good play. If it's Saric saying I want a few days to see if I can get a bigger contract, that is more understandable.

I don't expect it, but what are the a Christian Wood at minimum chances? He has flaws, but at minimum would be an amazing get. At this point how many teams left can offer him more than that?

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

No theyre not holding out hope. I posted some tweets in regards to this earlier but theyre kicking the tires on pretty much any decent big remaining but theyve been shunned at every turn. Last two they were connected to were Alex Len and Mason Plumlee

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Of those two guys you said “shunned” GSW, one got paid way more than we could and the other re-signed with his same team. I don’t fill jilted.

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Yeah of course. My point wasn’t that the Warriors somehow failed, its that the fanbase thinks theyre not prioritizing signing a big man and they are. Theyve been attached to almost every big man that has signed elsewhere that presumably where within their price range

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Right but Len and Plumlee are still fairly in-demand guys, not like the true bottom of the barrel G league scrounging that could happen if Saric is not interested.

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Warriors free agency in a nutshell:

Warriors: Do you want to join our team?

Player: Um, sure. How much are you willing to pay me?

Warriors: Well, all we have are vet mins. Buuuut, you get to play with Curry and-.

Player: Pass.

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Yeah but as i stated earlier so has Denver lol. Who wouldn’t wanna play with Jokic.

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Recently, several nba vets have shared the opinion that they don't think a lot of their fellows enjoy basketball. It's just a job. So given similar money, they might opt for lifestyle preferences - hence LA and Miami.

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Denver has the same problem that Warriors have had for years. If your team has a lot of amazing guys at every position, that's not an ideal free agent destination. "Ring chasers" don't want to just ride the pine for the ring, they want to contribute.

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Wonder if it's the coaching too. Maybe Malone rubbed some guys off the wrong way with his playoff energy lol

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PHI did us a favor there. Harrell was not a good solution for us.

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No im good on him. All im saying is Philly just signed Mo Bamba. The whole notion is that players dont want to come to Warriors because they’ll have a limited role here BUT some players are signing to be a 3rd or 4th string center on other clubs. We need a backup C. I get Draymond plays C too but hes also the starting PF

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That’s the confusing thing for me when they choose to be 3rd or 4th string backups… on our team they’d be a significant backup since Looney and Green can’t cover that many minutes at center

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I mean we don't know the nature of the negotiations, the Warriors might be telling them they intend to put them behind Saric in the rotation if he signs.

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I think that notion is real -- Warriors have a pretty solid 7-8 guys in place, so anyone joining may get very limited playing time. For Montrez in particular though, I think it may have been more that other teams (including the Warriors) weren't interested. Personally I'd be at least a little interested in seeing Warrior Montrez, but I'll let wiser minds decide.

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I'm not convinced that our rotation is that rigid. But whatever. I just hope they'll get someone worthwhile -- and soon.

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Warriors seem to be targetting the right guys. Can’t blame them if they strike out. I would absolutely take Alex Len and Plumley on this squad. In the minority but id pass on Saric yet take a shot on Kaminsky. Kaminsky has a higher def rating but has been a solid team defender throughout his career. Id feel comfortable pairing him next to a solid Poa defender in Kuminga

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Nah, we got GP2. Small is All.

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> Id feel comfortable pairing him next to a solid Poa defender in Kuminga

That frontcourt rebounding might get nasty

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Besides Quinones, anyone have any ideas about who else might be interesting as the other two 2-way players? Maybe Gui

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I think there’s a good chance Lester ends up on the 15-man

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I don't know - he's looking really good, but teams swooping away 2-way guys onto their regular roster just doesn't happen that often. But I agree there's a chance. If the choice comes down to putting him on the 15-man or losing him to another team, I think they should absolutely choose the former.

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Ty just got swooped, so I’m nervous about LQ. (Although Ty has more pedigree and NBA experience)

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Gui’s a safe bet because I think we lose his draft rights if we don't give him a contract this year, and he’s shown enough to be worth a shot.

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I thought they still have his draft rights for this upcoming year? I didn't find a definitive answer with a cursory google search unfortunately, so I'm very curious at this point.

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

Great listen alert! Jason Timpf’s take on the Warriors offseason is pretty thorough. He’s very bullish on everyone we got. https://youtu.be/2LvcOCbLcb8

He watched a lot TJD film and does a pretty deep dive on his game. He likes him a lot and expects him to make the rotation right away.

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I’d HIGHLY recommend Mrs Davis on Peacock for those who haven’t seen it.

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Im grtting Peacock just for that show. Damon Lindeloff is the shiz! The Leftovers still remains my favorite show of all time. Watchmen was up there too.

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I don't know yet if I'll regret or appreciate the recommendation, but I want to let you know that you just influenced a person on the internets to watch this right now.

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If a show was based on a dubnation poster, who would it be?

Haha, asher comes to mind as a great side character. The kuminga hype vibes is exactly the kind of reliability a side character needs 😂

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Can we include authors? The Gold Blooded King would be a star!

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Dub Nation TV 😂

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

All of these mentions of Chris Paul in the comments hurt my soul . . . so I propose an alternative!!

From now on, we at DNHQ can all collectively pretend that we've signed an wily veteran named Emmanuel (his middle name) who bears an unfortunate striking resemblance to Chris "The Antichrist" Paul.

Whose with me!!

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His name is STATE FARM!

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WHOSE middle name?

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Dont root for Chris "The Antichrist" Paul.

Root for Emmanuel "The AntiChrisPaul"

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Lol are we the fans the real AntiChris?

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But EP3 is awfully close to E1P. I’m confused already. I know one of those is a good thing.

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

Wait a second... That reminds me. Didn't we just get a win?!

Edit: explain 1 Podz

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Emmanuel Paul could definitely be a pope.

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Come to the temple of DubBall and go from dope to pope just like that. It's miraculous!

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I never prepared for this moment because I didn’t think it made sense on any level. Behind KD this is probably the transaction that surprised me the most during the Steph era.

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What happens when he has a good game? A Paul party??

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Whatever it's called it will be appaulling

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or Cliff Paul?

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They should have put a clause in his contract that he needs to grow his tache.

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Clifford Paul Emmanuel or CPE for short!

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Thinking about how wiseman would play with cp3 - I wonder how much cp3 would yell at him for setting bad screens

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[Charania] The New Orleans Pelicans are signing forward EJ Liddell to a new three-year, $6.2 million deal, with a team option in the third season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium . Liddell was on a two-way contract after suffering a torn ACL in summer league last summer.

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Holy Toledo, that is a long contract for a guy that played no pro basketball. Maybe DNHQ was right after all to pick Liddell (and Jalen Williams) in the 2021 Draft Tourney.

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

I view this as them doing right by him. This is probably roughly the contract he would’ve signed if he had torn his ACL in training camp instead of summer league.

I think the new CBA even adjusted this to allow for rookie contracts to be made official before summer league to mitigate the downside risk for players—they don’t want folks sitting out of summer league because their contract isn’t official for 5 more days.

Edit: the new CBA has the second round pick exception, which allows teams to sign players to deals immediately, but the deals won’t show up on the cap sheet until after July 31st. This allows players to get security before summer league without being delayed due to cap concerns etc.

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The Pelicans must like what they have seen from Liddell.

He was intriguing coming out of the draft, and good for them to honor his abilities even with an injury he suffered as their employee.

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Rookie Trayce Jackson-Davis has agreed to a four-year deal with the Golden State Warriors, including two guaranteed seasons, his agents James Dunleavy and Max Lipsett of

@excelbasketball

tell ESPN. Jackson-Davis was the 57th pick out of Indiana U. in the June draft.

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Two years guaranteed is about standard for second rounders signing 15 man contracts, isn't it? That's what Smailagic got. Hell, Paschall got three years.

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Smailagic got two years and the Lacob who signed him never spent a day in jail. Life's not fair.

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Smailagic did have potential as a switch everything stretch small ball five if he didn't suck lol

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Guess I don't care, since right now we need a big, and not a Liddell

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Took me a second.

I'm turning my Professional Punners Association card in at the door.

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Hmm, I still only an AAPA member (Aspiring Amateur Punners' Association). Where can I find out more about the PPA? Also, where can I get some training? From my wife's expression when I practice on her, I think she would like me to improve.

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Head north and turn right at the double entendre.

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Gotta remember, a pun only turns into a Dad Joke when it becomes apparent.

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[Charania] Atlanta Hawks All-Star Dejounte Murray and CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul are finalizing a four-year, $120 million veteran maximum extension with the franchise, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium . Deal includes a player option.

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Pointless

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@ShamsCharania

The Chicago Bulls are waiving center Marko Simonovic, sources tell

@TheAthletic

@Stadium

. Simonovic appeared in 16 games since signing with Bulls on multiyear deal in 2021.

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I actually thought Chicago was going to trade Vucevic during the trade deadline and give this guy some run. This would be a perfect to way big man that the Warriors should sign

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Jul 6, 2023·edited Jul 6, 2023

His stats, to the extent he has any, would suggest that he is considerably worse at basketball than James Wiseman. On the other hand, JW wasn't on a vet min.

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He is not but ive also suggested we need a project big on a 2-way and he would fill that role not necessarily a roster spot

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They will. probably go with one of the bigs in our Summer League.

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Jul 6, 2023·edited Jul 6, 2023

Thought I had never heard of the guy, so I looked him up on youtube.

Guess which team 1/2 of a Simonovic rookie season highlight tape on Youtube is against?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVZcXhEwXMQ

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Allow me to share what I know about this guy’s game:

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I agree, and also I would like to add:

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Jul 6, 2023·edited Jul 6, 2023

You're both so wrong and just stuck in your echo chamber... it's this type of unfounded speculative opinion that ruin this blog for the real fans, like me

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10 Minutes of Chris Paul Highlights | Golden State Warriors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5ZQNvHs3vc

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I feel dirty

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This needs a Content Warning: the following video contains material that maybe harmful to some viewers. Viewer discretion is advised.

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I can really see a “Chris Paul sucks” chant becoming a sign of endearment this season

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See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5ZQNvHs3vc&t=114s for a CP3 nut-punch special.

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Prior to June 22nd, 2023: Cliff Paul is a whiny little flopping halibut and I hope that sucker never wins a ring

July 6th, 2023: CP3 the Point God! What's up future champ!

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Who is this Cliff Paul? Hoping he's a center!

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It's a joke from CP3's State Farm commercials. In the commercials, Cliff Paul is CP's smart but non-athletic twin brother (with a mustache) who always has his back and is a State Farm agent.

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Thanks. I usually press mute and look away when I see the red.

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I still don't want CP to get a ring, but more than that I hope the dubs core gets another ring. So the positive spin is now at least the former can't happen without the latter (at least this year or however long he lasts on the team).

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Jul 6, 2023·edited Jul 6, 2023

Think about it that CP3 has to come here to get a ring. That's truth, justice, and the NBA way.

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Jul 7, 2023·edited Jul 7, 2023

Look up In the sky, it’s a bird, it’s a plane, noooooo, it’s Supermaaaannnn

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Yeah, it’s CP3 taking the bending of the knee in submission to Steph’s lordship.

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Thank You, Jordan Poole | Golden State Warriors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzaeiIKin7c

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I will miss his facial expressions most of all

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I'm not sure I"ll miss them most of all, but I definitely enjoyed them and thought they added something special to Warriors' games.

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I will miss his gigantic fast jab steps

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That was wonderful

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[Wojnarowski]The Kings are acquiring Pacers G Chris Duarte for two second-round picks, sources tell ESPN. Pacers will receive a 2028 second (via Dallas) and the Kings' 2030 second-round pick. Trade will be finalized today.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/14sjkrj/wojnarowskithe_kings_are_acquiring_pacers_g_chris/

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Was Duarte that much of a flop?

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So the Warriors aren’t still offering Moody, future picks and $100 gift certificate at the GSW merch shop?

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So happy the Pacers "stole" him at 13, so the Dubs had to settle for MM at 14.

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Probably saved us from ourselves. Sounds like the Dubs liked him, too.

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Yeah, saw some reports Joe really liked him at the time

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Joe can like whomever he likes, but I hope he's listening to these professional talent evaluators he pays. Good Lord...

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I'd be surprised if it was just Lacob. My recollection is that the Dubs contacted Indiana while the draft was in progress to try to work out a trade before they picked at 14.

I doubt they do something like that unless there was more than one voice in the room for Duarte.

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I will wait with bated breath for an Indiana newspaper or blog to write a long piece about how the Warriors are still really jealous about the Pacers snatching up Duarte one pick before MM.

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