Side note; I think the compressed schedule this year might be taking a toll. Seems like more injuries than usual across the league. Looking forward to (hopefully) a normal schedule next year.
Whelp. I am not sure what this all means. But I’d have to think it is better than a ligament? I was fearing he might miss time next year but hopefully he won’t. Or maybe I’m grasping at straws.....
I'm reading that a torn meniscus can be only 4-8 weeks of recovery, but if it's bad it's 3-6 months of recovery. So either he misses the rest of the season and gets an offseason, or he misses the entire offseason and comes back next year.
I tore my meniscus a few years back. Depends on the severity but I had a grade 1. My idiot self never took the time to do surgery or rehab it until about a year later, but enough scar tissue formed around it to where I had about 80% of the explosiveness I had before I had surgery. Then it was another 8 weeks because of my work schedule. It also gave me the opportunity to really work on the strength and proprioception on my injured leg
IANAD but being as young as he is and with a top notch medical/rehab staff I'd expect him to be back on the floor in about seven weeks.
Would Marquese Chriss be back to scrimmaging now if he was still on a roster? I thought the timetable for his injury was that he would be back sometime in April or May?
I was thinking about how dunks have been our curse - Wiseman being the latest victom. Slater mentions the same. From The Athletic:
Dunk attempts have cursed the Warriors lately. Klay Thompson tore his ACL in the 2019 Finals on an off-balance landing. Kelly Oubre Jr. has sprained his wrist twice this season while bracing his fall. Marquese Chriss broke his lower leg on a scrimmage alley-oop.
Next draft save the organization trouble and I say let LGW decide who we pick. Halliburton was the consensus and I believe everyone here deserves a raise.
Well, MCL tear better than ACL tear at least? He can still have an offseason and training camp ... Fuck man, I'm scraping for any silver lining here....
I remain hopeful for happy entertaining basketball with competitive losses and delightful wins ending in a playoff victory or two. My fantasy: Dubs rise to 8th seed, Lakers collapse to 9. W’s send them packing in a nail biting one and done.
The internal belief within the Warriors is that James Wiseman's right knee injury isn't too serious. Tests will determine extent/timetable, but low level of concern that it's a major blow for the rookie center.
Totally agree. Fuck I miss klay, man. The fact that he's the 2nd or 3rd greatest shooter of all time (I'd put him at 2) and SUPER clutch would definitely make us higher than a 6 seed. His presence alone would shore up those clunky 2nd units. We'd honestly be better than Utah, Phoenix and Denver at this point
I think we’re 1-7 without Steph, so we’re 24-21 with him, which is a 53.3% win %, which would be... 8th in the West (and #4 in the East for cryin out loud)
We’ve also been horrible in some close games, and generally had injury trouble (Chriss, Wiseman and Looney out together, Pascall?)... could easily be 25-20 with Steph and 2-6 without him. We also probably overestimated Wiseman and Oubre would perform. They should be above 500 even with everything that’s happened.
I don't like the east comparison cause you can say that for basically every western conf team (that'd they'd be much better). It is what it is. 24-21 with steph is also worse than I thought but I didn't think there'd be this much of an adjustment period
I dunno if I'd say he went bad, but I dunno about good.
We hoped his rising 3pt trajectory would keep up or at least hold steady with the Ws, but it didn't, and he doesn't facilitate to make up for that lack of shooting.
He’s been inconsistent, yes, but he’s shouting 41% from three in April (5 games) to date. Also, interestingly, he’s shooting 35% from three when playing 30+ minutes which is around 40% of games. Think the inconsistent roles have hurt him.
Posted an update thread with all the known Wiseman bad news together. https://www.letsgowarriors.com/p/update-wiseman-out-for-a-long-time
SIGH
So... Omari Spellman (in G-League and available I believe) or go full Tank Commander and have The Dawning of the Age of Alen Smailagic ... ?
Definitely omari we look nice with him running small ball big for the second unit
Side note; I think the compressed schedule this year might be taking a toll. Seems like more injuries than usual across the league. Looking forward to (hopefully) a normal schedule next year.
Whelp. I am not sure what this all means. But I’d have to think it is better than a ligament? I was fearing he might miss time next year but hopefully he won’t. Or maybe I’m grasping at straws.....
I'm reading that a torn meniscus can be only 4-8 weeks of recovery, but if it's bad it's 3-6 months of recovery. So either he misses the rest of the season and gets an offseason, or he misses the entire offseason and comes back next year.
I tore my meniscus a few years back. Depends on the severity but I had a grade 1. My idiot self never took the time to do surgery or rehab it until about a year later, but enough scar tissue formed around it to where I had about 80% of the explosiveness I had before I had surgery. Then it was another 8 weeks because of my work schedule. It also gave me the opportunity to really work on the strength and proprioception on my injured leg
IANAD but being as young as he is and with a top notch medical/rehab staff I'd expect him to be back on the floor in about seven weeks.
Still better than an ACL. Silver lining I guess.
Would Marquese Chriss be back to scrimmaging now if he was still on a roster? I thought the timetable for his injury was that he would be back sometime in April or May?
I was thinking about how dunks have been our curse - Wiseman being the latest victom. Slater mentions the same. From The Athletic:
Dunk attempts have cursed the Warriors lately. Klay Thompson tore his ACL in the 2019 Finals on an off-balance landing. Kelly Oubre Jr. has sprained his wrist twice this season while bracing his fall. Marquese Chriss broke his lower leg on a scrimmage alley-oop.
Spellman been available all year right? Surprised we never picked him backup
Well, your concern was warranted
N your concern for me, personally, was not lol
Spellman, Jorden Bell, Wesson
available with knowledge of our system.
Tyson Chandler, Joakim Noah other decent vet C in the market.
Writing on the wall for Smiley if he can’t carve minutes out here
Center rotation - Loon first 6 minutes of each quarter, Dray last 6mins of 2nd and 4th and JTA last six minutes of first and third?
When is EP back?
The team has never given any sort of timeline on EP, as far as I know
That's another risk you take drafting a bigman, injuries and being injury prone
Eh, Lamelo got knocked out for the year too.
Just saying, seems way more likely for a bigman to be injury prone
At least he only has a fractured wrist
Next draft save the organization trouble and I say let LGW decide who we pick. Halliburton was the consensus and I believe everyone here deserves a raise.
Well, MCL tear better than ACL tear at least? He can still have an offseason and training camp ... Fuck man, I'm scraping for any silver lining here....
Sad
It's not an MCL issue. Meniscus is a different part of the knee... I think we're still waiting to hear about back re: severity
Yeah my bad. Jaren Jackson Jr had same injury I think? And JJJ still hasn't come back yet.....man, so Wiseman could lose another offseason...
Oops, meniscus, not MCL....
Fuck.
I just yelled that anumber of times. Glad that nobody is around the house.
Well, safe to say Steph really put that injury behind him and is back at full power.
That reminds me of when Chris Gatling missed a game with hemorrhoids and then TV-announcer Steve Albert said his troubles were behind him.
I remain hopeful for happy entertaining basketball with competitive losses and delightful wins ending in a playoff victory or two. My fantasy: Dubs rise to 8th seed, Lakers collapse to 9. W’s send them packing in a nail biting one and done.
I like the way you think.
That might be the best case scenario to end the season honestly lol
Steph has edged back into the 3PM lead over Buddy Heild.
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The internal belief within the Warriors is that James Wiseman's right knee injury isn't too serious. Tests will determine extent/timetable, but low level of concern that it's a major blow for the rookie center.
That aged fuckily
Yep.
I can't believe we're 25-28. I made fun of everyone who said we'd be in the play in games and here we are. I thought 6th seed would be worst case
6th seed, maybe with Klay and no injuries throughout the year
We’d be much better than that if both of those things were true. You’re seriously underestimating Klay (and the injury impacts this year).
Totally agree. Fuck I miss klay, man. The fact that he's the 2nd or 3rd greatest shooter of all time (I'd put him at 2) and SUPER clutch would definitely make us higher than a 6 seed. His presence alone would shore up those clunky 2nd units. We'd honestly be better than Utah, Phoenix and Denver at this point
I think we’re 1-7 without Steph, so we’re 24-21 with him, which is a 53.3% win %, which would be... 8th in the West (and #4 in the East for cryin out loud)
How many of those 21 losses where Steph played was the team without Draymond?
I believe they’re 3-5 without Green
We’ve also been horrible in some close games, and generally had injury trouble (Chriss, Wiseman and Looney out together, Pascall?)... could easily be 25-20 with Steph and 2-6 without him. We also probably overestimated Wiseman and Oubre would perform. They should be above 500 even with everything that’s happened.
I don't like the east comparison cause you can say that for basically every western conf team (that'd they'd be much better). It is what it is. 24-21 with steph is also worse than I thought but I didn't think there'd be this much of an adjustment period
Well, we also had to deal with Chriss getting knocked out early, and then Oubre and Wanamker coming in and massively underperforming from 3.
And Draymond's continually regressing offense....
...is Wiggins like the only thing that's gone right this year?
Oubre has gone right, IMHO. But then again, I’m Oubre’s Agent...
I dunno if I'd say he went bad, but I dunno about good.
We hoped his rising 3pt trajectory would keep up or at least hold steady with the Ws, but it didn't, and he doesn't facilitate to make up for that lack of shooting.
He’s been inconsistent, yes, but he’s shouting 41% from three in April (5 games) to date. Also, interestingly, he’s shooting 35% from three when playing 30+ minutes which is around 40% of games. Think the inconsistent roles have hurt him.
Curry
Wigs
Poole
In that order.
Thats, about, it...
That’s assuming it’s an adjustment period 😬
ESPN had us as the 14th seed.
Lol well that's a different kind of dumb