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Jun 2·edited Jun 2Pinned

FOLKS, sorry I accidentally deleted all the votes in this Group C poll. Could you do me the favor of re-voting?

(It turns out if you change the poll to add an option, like for instance, "I don't know", it throws out all your poll results. What idiotic design. Thank you, Substack, thank you.)

https://dubnationhq.com/p/dnhq-draft-tourney-group-c-payton

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Trying to steal the election on a revote?!?! This is abuse of power!!!

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Justice Alito is flipping his flag over again

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Please tell!

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Hanging chads??

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You guessed it!

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Warriors will have in these six for a draft workout on Mon Jun 3:

Darin Green Jr. (Florida State)

Blake Hinson (Pittburgh)

Keshad Johnson (Arizona)

Pelle Larsson (Arizona)

Shahada Wells (McNeese State)

Moses Wood (Washington)

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Keshad, Pelle and Blake will be added to the Draft Tourney. Blake is #62 in PRPG, Keshad is #86 in BPM and Pelle is #129 in BPM, so they all were below my arbitrary cutoff of #50 or better for the Tourney.

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Shout out to Shahada Wells, who is unlikely to be drafted, but is a great college player. He was a stupendous #14 in the country in BPM (#57 in PRPG), posting Very good Offensive Rating on huge Usage at average efficiency. He had a very high Assist Rate and low turnovers, with a sky high Steal Rate (#4 in country, #2 in SPG). Career highs of 80.3% FT and 39.0% 3P.

What's the catch? He's 6-0 and racked up his stats at McNeese State which has a very weak schedule.

I could see GSW eyeing Wells for the Summer League or Santa Cruz if Kendric Davis (also 6-0) decides to leave.

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On the topic of the draft, I know the warriors can’t simply buy draft picks any more thanks to the new CBA, but can they trade the 52nd pick and a boatload of cash to move up? If there’s a team that doesn’t have room for all the players, can they trade a future top 59 protected pick and cash for a current 2nd round pick? I’m mostly just curious what creative tools they have available for moving up.

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My understanding is that if you are over the second apron, you can’t send out money in a trade, and if you are under, then you can (up to a season limit of around $6M).

So if GSW can get under the second apron (which I think happens if they waive CP3) then they can trade cash for picks starting July 1.

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Jun 2·edited Jun 2Liked by Eric Apricot

I don't think the Warriors can buy another pick or move up significantly for *this* draft using cash, since they already sent almost their entire 6M (5.8M according to news articles) along with Cory Joseph for their current pick #52. Maybe someone will package #50 for #52 and 200k? That's the best they could likely do.

We don't really have any future second-rounders to send out to move up this year, other than a 2026 pick from ATL https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/golden-state-warriors/10/draft-picks

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Dallas is pretty good beyond Luka and Kyrie. They are solid at the wings and have 2 bigs that would start for the Warriors at the 5.

Boston will be very difficult to beat, especially if Porzingis is close to 100 pct.

They are so versatile defensively and are the only team in the NBA that might be able to contain Luka and Kyrie, but I wouldn’t count on it.

It seems like Boston is destined to finally win one, but they have consistently had surprising negative outcomes.

However, they did not have Holiday in the past. I think he is the difference.

They also did not have Porzingis who just gives them an added dimension.

I said Dallas was a huge threat to win the West but I think Boston ends their run.

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Jun 2Liked by Eric Apricot, Daniel Hardee

Go go go Luka go!

I hope Luka wins just because he's also representing my sLOVEnija!

And also because against all odds he wins against a juggernaut (although they could easily be 1-3 against Halliburton less ) Indiana!

You can't fathom how proud we slovenians are of him because we are such a small country (2 million)!

In the history of my country we were always subordinate to some empire (Roman/Habsburg/Napoleon, etc.).

Luka represents our stubborness to resists against all odds!

But nevermind my babbling after all it's just a game🙏

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SDSU & Arizona alum, Keshad Johnson will workout for the Golden State Warriors on June 3rd. The Oakland native has seen his draft buzz rise since the combine. His 42” max vertical leap was the top one there.

6”8, can guard multiple positions. Shot 39% from deep last season.

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https://x.com/JDumasReports/status/1796654483314970726

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is he in the tourney? we've been missing the Oakland energy since Juanito left

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He has been added in a future Group. He was #88 BPM which was below my arbitrary cutoff of #50.

(If I had used the criteria to Top 100 BPM or PRPG then we would have included every draft-projected GSW workout invitee so far.)

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And will fall to us?

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Impossible to predict draft position, but two mocks have him at #49, a couple of others have him undrafted.

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Is he 35 years old or something? What's the catch?

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He is older (five year senior) and only recently has developed a three point shot.

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Jun 2Liked by Eric Apricot

No fair! You copied and pasted that from all the other player profiles.

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Clearly, he’s got a type…

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Jun 2Liked by Eric Apricot

two recurring notes of the draft tourney!

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Jun 2·edited Jun 2Author

Definitely! It turns out that if you have no real weaknesses, the first 51 teams tend to think about picking you... The trick is whether we can live with the weaknesses. And old age doesn't seem to bother us, and in fact is a plus.

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Anybody here watch the champions league finals - Real Madrid beat Dortmund 2-0 - Carvajal - shortest guy on the field scores a header off a corner and then Vinicius does his Magic - both goals late in second half!

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Me. And next year I will watch Champions League live in my hometown because my team, Bologna FC, Is back in Champions League after 60 years!

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That’s awesome

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Steph did not a championship until the 6th year of his NBA career. This season is Luka's 6th year of his NBA career. Will Luka be able to prevail?

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Jun 2Liked by Eric Apricot

I'm nominally a Sky fan until the Valks arrive, but Chennedy has some issues. She posted on Threads:

"& that's on that cause beside three point shooting what does she bring to the table man,"

Sounds like all those Steph detractors over the years, and also, Caitlin has made some incredible laser passes in the few games I've watched, so this is just an ignorant take.

Overall, seems like somewhere between jealousy of the rook and "Caitlin rules" going on in many of her games where she is getting roughed up, but kudos for Caitlin for just playing on and not getting involved in the nonsense.

Also, for a bit of karma, the Sky lost by 1 point, which was basically the extra FT Caitlin got for the off-the-ball play when she was shoved.

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Will he be able to? Sure. Will he? Maybe. The Celtics are moderate favorites per Vegas, at -225. Dallas +180.

I’d probably take Dallas of those two bets, as to me it’s basically a coin flip of a series.

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I'd say it's more even then not, the first game should be telling especially if Dallas takes it.

Vegas tends to favor the home teams and big market teams even more so.

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Jun 1Liked by Daniel Hardee

Playoff leaders:

PTS — Luka Doncic

REB — Luka Doncic

AST — Luka Doncic

STL — Luka Doncic

FGM — Luka Doncic

3PM — Luka Doncic

FTM — Luka Doncic

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Whining - Luka Doncheat; move over LBJ...lol

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Get used to that right there.

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On high percentage shooting too

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Not so much, on that front: .564 TS, which is below league average (though still pretty good given his insanely high usage).

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What about from 3 I thought that looked good

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.343 from 3, to date.

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Is that below league average for the playoffs? I doubt it.

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I can’t find the combined leaguewide number, but I think it’s still slightly below average: 8 of the 16 playoff teams have playoff TS over .570, and most of them are the teams that have played a lot of games. Boston’s team TS is .600, Indiana’s .596, Dallas’ .578.

In any case, .564 TS cannot really be considered “high percentage shooting.” If we take FTs out of it (which we probably should if we’re just talking about shooting) his eFG% is .513, which is no one’s idea of a high percentage.

By way of comparison: on the 2016-17 GOAT Warriors, Steph put up a playoff eFG% of .599 and KD put up .627.

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In fact, he and Tatum (0.565 TS) seem to have the lowest* efficiency this playoffs among the top players by any advanced stat metric. Jokic, Ant, SGA, Hali, White, Mitchell, Kyrie, Embiid, Lebron, Siakam, AG, Towns, Harden, Mobley, Jrue, AD, Dame, Maxey, Booker, Brown... all above .578 TS.

*with the exception of Brunson at .536.

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Dang. Not a big fan of Doncic or his game, but that is impressive.

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Last, or first?

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My observation has been that WNBA allows way more contact than the NBA, but is more apt to upgrade common fouls (or even no-calls) on review. If you watch playoff games, especially from like ten years ago, the physicality really jumps out. (But yeah, this particular foul feels like it's in a separate category, since it happens before the ball is in play.)

Also, what hamm and DFiB said.

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Along the lines of hammy’s comment. It’s unnecessary, but not all that hard imo, and a bit of a sell job. Clark seems to be getting a bit of the treatment Steph used to get, in that opponents are trying to be physical with her to throw her off. She’s gonna have to play through, and just be tough about it. The league can’t be all kid gloves with her, that would be worse.

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It’s definitely extra, but there’s also a lot of weird attention given to it by online dudes who seem mostly interested in using every hard foul to take shots at the WNBA or even women in general. And then it also demeans Caitlin, like she can’t take care of herself.

This was definitely a cheap shot, but this is also a girl Caitlin had been talking trash to. A lot of it has just been hoops.

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Definitely not normal. Think there’s a lot of envy around the league for how much attention and praise Caitlin has gotten, despite being a rookie.

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Jun 2·edited Jun 2

IMO shouild have been a tech.

Looking only at the replay clip...

It was not really part of a basketball play ... she was waiting for the inbounds pass. I saw unnecessary excessive contact (sorry to sound like Fitz) before the ball was even passed in.

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