Sorry if this has been discussed already, but with Amir Coffey signing with the Bucks, might that be the first instance of the W’s missing out on a potential signee because of the Kuminga holdup?
The real question is: would you rather have Podz/Moody/JK or $60 mil in cap space ($75 mil+ in the future: if JK gets $22+ mil, Podz might get $30-35 mil, Moody gets $20+ after his current contract)? Moody's current contract is good, so I think he stays except if we do something crazy like a Giannis trade, but Podz might want a lot if JK gets an overpay.
If we find a post-Curry star quickly and we can't get a 2nd (or 3rd) because of those contracts, we'll regret it. If we've committed to tanking for a few years, no big deal.
Personally, I would want to preserve all the cap space possible (and reluctantly trade Podz before we get another JK-type situation), but I can see why people would want to have 3 depth players too. It depends on the front office's vision for the post-Curry years, I guess.
Podz is not getting close to $30M unless he significantly improves his ball handling and shooting. But you are right about the question being just fundamentally: are JK, Moody, and Podz a good use of ~$60M of cap space, cuz that’s the top end of what the three of them would get in the open market.
Podz definitely isn't worth $30 mil. He should probably be getting ~$22 mil, JK $15-17.5 mil, and Moody is fair value (or better) on his current deal. But if JK gets $22+ mil, Podz might ask (for example) to split the difference between that and Franz Wagner's huge $44 mil+ deal. If we end up with a huge amount of post-Curry cap space, our upcoming FA's might ask for more just because there's potentially more to go around.
IMO, of course. Hopefully, he can sign either a fairly large short-term deal or take a long-term discount.
Then it’s a nonsense discussion, cuz those three would make a combined $60M in open market, if you’re being generous. They just can’t possibly be competitive without a filled out roster. What’s the point that’s being made in that tweet?
Looks like another quiet day in Dubs land, so I’ll throw out a big rec for Zach Cregger’s “Weapons” which is every bit as wildly, wickedly enjoyable as “Barbarian,” if not more so.
If you’re lucky enough to have seen neither you’re in for two treats (assuming you have at least a mild to moderate tolerance for horror). Just make sure you go into both knowing as little as possible about them.
The most beneficial scenario for GSW would be to get something back for JK right now, but that might not be possible. Not an ideal situation, but wouldn't taking the QO would count as signing a contract, so JK wouldn't be able to be traded for months?
If so, why not take a 1-year, $22.5 mil offer with a no-trade clause from the Warriors rather than the QO? JK probably isn't ending up on the Kings immediately anyway, and if he takes the QO and we can't find a trade by the deadline, he's probably gone next off-season anyway (either walking or by S&T).
It's to the Warriors' advantage for JK to take the QO, since at this point any contract that JK signs would probably need a NTC, and it would cost a lot less. But if MDJ can work out a trade with Sac that requires more salary, but can't be executed until the deadline (due to S&T salary-matching), maybe both sides would benefit from a 1-yr NTC structure. Or JK could change his mind and allow other teams into the equation.
It's a tough decision, though, because in some cases, $22 mil might be harder to trade than $7.9 mil.
JK isn't going to sign for the qualifying offer. However damaging it is to his ego, 1+1 for $22m/year is a better deal and I could see the Warriors making it 2+1. JK has shown he can have a spurt of good games as he did before the injury and against the T-Wolves in the playoffs and that should make him pretty easy to trade.
I have actually used that joke in my head since the very beginning of the season to help me remember how to spell Valkyries. (I didn't use Higgins specifically, just someone named Val) :p
[NBA Today] Slater: "The word I’ve heard used from the Kuminga side is ‘pawn'. He doesn’t want to sign this two-year, $45MM deal with a team option where he is clearly just being used to be traded mid-season. That’s not something he wants to sign up for... and prefers the qualifying offer"
What started with demanding out and agent leaks of irreparable relationships, has reached the “hey, can’t we just get along” phase.
The Warriors will give some small concession on the deal to let JK’s agent get the last “win”, like a guarantee of some part of the 2nd year, and they’ll sign by training camp.
Steve Kerr: "We don't practice anymore. So we have to develop these 19 year old kids who are coming into the league without much practice time...Frankly, I'm not great — I'm an older coach...So I lean on the young [coaches]."
Seems to be a scheduling gripe. In the clip he talks about how the league schedule does not allow the consecutive days off the way they used to, where they could be getting 4 days off & get 2 practice days in
I think the reduction in B2Bs have a lot to with this. The average #b2bs has come down from about 19 per team to about 14(compared to early 2010s). Also distractions like the NBA cup. Because of fewer B2Bs, schedule is more evenly spread out compressing practice time?
Don't know for sure, but I think you're right. IIRC, the usual end date used to be April 15 or so. I think it's been the 12th the last couple of years.
Absolutely no idea, he just says in the clip that the scheduling is different from when he played basketball.
Edit: I was curious & looked at the Bulls schedule when Kerr played. Didn’t see a ton of 4 day breaks scanning the schedule so idk.
Kerr’s been on record before that he thinks 82 games is too many given the faster pace of the modern game. Honestly, that would have been my guess on why they don’t do full blown practices/scrimmages. To keep the players from being completely burnt out/decrease the chances of injury during the regular season
Valkyries have made history with the most wins by an expansion team in their inaugural season. The Detroit Shock retains their number 1 record as the expansion team with the best win % in their inaugural season.
DET was 17-13 for a .567 win %. To beat this, GSV would have to finish 25-19. That means they would have to finish the season 7-4, which will be a bit of a challenge, but not impossible.
Speaking of Tatum and his injury, I stumbled across this in Byron Scott's Fast Break podcast. He's talking with longtime Lakers trainer Gary Vitti about why NBA players suffer more injuries today than in past eras. It's pretty interesting stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjTU0xQLdRE
I respectfully request that you delete this post. I made it 40 seconds and I think it took weeks off of me. For the love of the Dub Nation Community, take it down.
After we sign Kuminga to a 22 million per year deal, we then trade him to the Nets for Haywood Highsmith/Dayron Sharpe whose collective salaries are approximately 11 million (so we should be fine capwise?????).
Highsmith is SF/PF who produced 7 pts on 46% from the field and 38% from deep while also providing some solid rugged defense. He fills a needed swing skillset with his ability to play BOTH at the SF/PF positions while also having previous experience playing alongside Butler.
Sharpe is a pure C who is a bit undersized at 6'9 but is bullish strong and can easily bang around with other bigs at 265 pounds. He is one of the best rebounders in the NBA, an underrated connective passer, moves well laterally and finishes well but is a subpar lob threat which hurts his efficiency (69th percentile offensively), and is a good defender (79th percentile in CRAFTEDDPM) who is a functional shotblocker. Oh and he's had some incredible on-off plus minuses over the last two years (+10 in 2024 and +12 in 2025). He reminds me of Looney.
We get two really solid players at positions of need in exchange for Kuminga. What do y'all think?
Sharpe just signed a new deal so I don't think he can be traded until mid season. Highsmith doesn't thrill me much and his contract is up after the upcoming season so is just a 1 season rental. the best scenario for the Warriors is still to re-sign Kuminga and trading him later even if it means tacking on 1 more year.
At the start of the offseason, I was thinking Kuminga would get 3 years guaranteed, but now I'm predicting Kuminga gets 2 years for 25 mil each with a 3rd year team option and NTC waived. This way Kuminga gets more money guaranteed, but Warriors still have control of him as a trade asset. The bigger salary doesn't hurt the Warriors too much since it can facilitate trades at the deadline for salary matching purposes.
I don't believe for one second that Kerr would just play JK 5 mpg or anything near that. If he's with the team, he's playing at least 20-25 mpg.
If JK acts out and causes problems on the team (which I doubt he'd do), he could be suspended, or I suppose they could even pay him $7.9M to stay home. But if he's playing at all, he's playing decent minutes.
However, I think if JK signs the QO, he will be motivated to play his ass off to set himself up for free agency next summer.
Oh Kerr definitely showed his hand in the last couple of weeks of the regular season as to how much he'll play JK, which is why I said 5 mins or less. Especially since he'll have a NTC the team is under no obligation to play him, unless of course we have an injury like Steph's or Jimmy's. Here is my projected minutes breakdown(assuming Horford, Melton, GP2 additions)
Steph 31
JB 32
Dray 30
Podz 30
Horford 24
Melton 18
Moody 16
Post 16
GP2 12
Gui. 10
TJD 8
2/3 players share remaining 13 minutes.
I just don't see Kerr doling 20-25 minutes to JK if he takes the QO.
More important than the average minutes per game is the number of games played. I've got no problem with Steph in the low 30s if he sits out 20% of the games in the regular season. Playing 35 minutes a night for four nights and missing the fifth is a lot easier than playing 28 minutes for five consecutive games - same total minutes but less wear and tear.
Kerr's biggest challenge this year is load management with Steph, JB, Dray, Horford, and possibly Melton. If they can get all of those guys some decent rest and still avoid the play-in, they could be a force in the playoffs.
"Playing 35 minutes a night for four nights and missing the fifth is a lot easier than playing 28 minutes for five consecutive games - same total minutes but less wear and tear."
Not sure I'd agree.
If your legs get tired after 25 or so minutes, pushing the rest of a game to win might be an issue.
We can let the training staff monitor and take care of that.
Totally agree that the "load management' will be crucial, especially early in the season.
I don't believe for 1 second that JK is going to sign a qualifying offer. That's well beyond the Pat McCaw or Latrell Sprewell "player betting on himself" level of stupidity.
They can't give three years, it would be a huge organizational failure.
I'll say 2/45 and a partial guarantee on the second year. I don't think Kuminga has a ton of leverage.
I also wonder, if Kuminga takes the QO, what's the biggest one year deal the Warriors can give GP2? They might just load up some of these contracts for the new signings to salvage some tradable salaries. They have GP2's Bird Rights, I assume that means there's no limit to what they can pay him other than the self-imposed limits regarding the aprons? Probably why all these guys are patiently waiting.
They have GPII's Bird rights, so the only apron they would have to worry about is the second apron if they sign Horford to a TPMLE. Assuming they do that and go to 15 with vet mins, that's ~24 million* they can split between GPII and JK.
JK takes only 7.9, that leaves 16 mil for GPII if they wanted to be crazy. It's probably just more advantageous to try to stay under the 1st apron if JK takes the QO.
*This is all by memory, so if anyone has actual figures, please correct me.
Maybe I'm missing something obvious but why would the Dubs throw that kind of money at GPII when he's a vet min player at best for every other team in the league?
Loyalty, mostly. It wouldn't shock me if GP2 has gotten some interest from other teams already. But, he's waiting on the Dubs to sort their stuff out.
If JK does take the QO, I expect that the team will give GP2 a more-than-vet-min contract as a reward for waiting (but just a one-year deal ... basically a severance payment).
Kind of blows my mind, but GP2 has been in the league 9 years (only one fewer year than Loon).
That's true, could be something like that, I should have said three guaranteed years.
Although if I'm being real, I think a two year deal around 22.5 million with the team option on the second year is needed to artificially generate some trade value for Kuminga, who I don't think has much trade value. I think if it is two fully guaranteed years, the Warriors aren't getting much of anything for him.
Agreed… I think JK’s camp would take the 2 fully guaranteed for 45 mil right now but the dubs FO hasn’t budged. Assuming they don’t want to commit too much money for the 2nd year. I think they bend a little and go with 2 years/38 mil, fully guaranteed.
Just bought a couple of tickets for Warriors @ Wizards 3/16. My son goes to school in DC so I’ll be flying out and taking him to the game. My first Warriors game in person since before the We Believe team so I am super stoked!
I don’t blame him, it’s beautiful up there, especially over by the national cathedral. I’m sure he’ll have a great time! DC’s a great city (current events notwithstanding).
Arena security and police decided they saw someone holding a dildo between their legs (it was a phone). They were yanked out of their seats and questioned by security and police for entire quarter before being allowed back to their seats.
"Nine times out of ten it's a spectator's phone, but every once in a while... it's a dildo. Of course it's security policy never to, imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article a dildo, never your dildo."
Sorry if this has been discussed already, but with Amir Coffey signing with the Bucks, might that be the first instance of the W’s missing out on a potential signee because of the Kuminga holdup?
lol.....
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How many games would a team led by Podz/Moody/Kuminga win?
The real question is: would you rather have Podz/Moody/JK or $60 mil in cap space ($75 mil+ in the future: if JK gets $22+ mil, Podz might get $30-35 mil, Moody gets $20+ after his current contract)? Moody's current contract is good, so I think he stays except if we do something crazy like a Giannis trade, but Podz might want a lot if JK gets an overpay.
If we find a post-Curry star quickly and we can't get a 2nd (or 3rd) because of those contracts, we'll regret it. If we've committed to tanking for a few years, no big deal.
Personally, I would want to preserve all the cap space possible (and reluctantly trade Podz before we get another JK-type situation), but I can see why people would want to have 3 depth players too. It depends on the front office's vision for the post-Curry years, I guess.
Podz is not getting close to $30M unless he significantly improves his ball handling and shooting. But you are right about the question being just fundamentally: are JK, Moody, and Podz a good use of ~$60M of cap space, cuz that’s the top end of what the three of them would get in the open market.
Podz definitely isn't worth $30 mil. He should probably be getting ~$22 mil, JK $15-17.5 mil, and Moody is fair value (or better) on his current deal. But if JK gets $22+ mil, Podz might ask (for example) to split the difference between that and Franz Wagner's huge $44 mil+ deal. If we end up with a huge amount of post-Curry cap space, our upcoming FA's might ask for more just because there's potentially more to go around.
IMO, of course. Hopefully, he can sign either a fairly large short-term deal or take a long-term discount.
Are we just giving those guys max contracts so they don’t have any good players around them? Or what assumptions here?
Those three are the best players on the team.
Then it’s a nonsense discussion, cuz those three would make a combined $60M in open market, if you’re being generous. They just can’t possibly be competitive without a filled out roster. What’s the point that’s being made in that tweet?
Like, 20-ish wins? But pretty much much every team in the league would win around that many if you forced their ~#4-8 guys to be their top three guys.
As in Steph/Dray/Jimmy are gone and replaced with vet mins? ~26 max, mostly against eastern teams.
26 is being generous I think.
Looks like another quiet day in Dubs land, so I’ll throw out a big rec for Zach Cregger’s “Weapons” which is every bit as wildly, wickedly enjoyable as “Barbarian,” if not more so.
If you’re lucky enough to have seen neither you’re in for two treats (assuming you have at least a mild to moderate tolerance for horror). Just make sure you go into both knowing as little as possible about them.
Horror is the best!
First in 40: The Story of the 2014-15 Warriors | Ep. 2 – Perfect Balance
https://youtu.be/Ho8TkpSt8CA?feature=shared
Warriors Screensaver Schedule Reveal Video.
https://youtu.be/kiICjqPuoYE?si=3BaLSZGvD7Uy5J46
Must've seen the Rocket's one
Portland did a shelter cats one (awesome) and the Spurs did a food themed one (also awesome).
The most beneficial scenario for GSW would be to get something back for JK right now, but that might not be possible. Not an ideal situation, but wouldn't taking the QO would count as signing a contract, so JK wouldn't be able to be traded for months?
If so, why not take a 1-year, $22.5 mil offer with a no-trade clause from the Warriors rather than the QO? JK probably isn't ending up on the Kings immediately anyway, and if he takes the QO and we can't find a trade by the deadline, he's probably gone next off-season anyway (either walking or by S&T).
It's to the Warriors' advantage for JK to take the QO, since at this point any contract that JK signs would probably need a NTC, and it would cost a lot less. But if MDJ can work out a trade with Sac that requires more salary, but can't be executed until the deadline (due to S&T salary-matching), maybe both sides would benefit from a 1-yr NTC structure. Or JK could change his mind and allow other teams into the equation.
It's a tough decision, though, because in some cases, $22 mil might be harder to trade than $7.9 mil.
JK isn't going to sign for the qualifying offer. However damaging it is to his ego, 1+1 for $22m/year is a better deal and I could see the Warriors making it 2+1. JK has shown he can have a spurt of good games as he did before the injury and against the T-Wolves in the playoffs and that should make him pretty easy to trade.
If Kyrie Irving and the Liberty’s Valerie Higgins started having daughters together, would they automatically become Valkyries?
Sage question.
I have actually used that joke in my head since the very beginning of the season to help me remember how to spell Valkyries. (I didn't use Higgins specifically, just someone named Val) :p
Then take the QO?
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[NBA Today] Slater: "The word I’ve heard used from the Kuminga side is ‘pawn'. He doesn’t want to sign this two-year, $45MM deal with a team option where he is clearly just being used to be traded mid-season. That’s not something he wants to sign up for... and prefers the qualifying offer"
The last vestigies of a dying negotiation…
What started with demanding out and agent leaks of irreparable relationships, has reached the “hey, can’t we just get along” phase.
The Warriors will give some small concession on the deal to let JK’s agent get the last “win”, like a guarantee of some part of the 2nd year, and they’ll sign by training camp.
I hope so!
If they sign him to an overvalued deal, the only place they’ll be able to unload him is a pawn shop.
Which is why that's not going to happen. If MDJ was going to do that, he would have done it already.
And he’ll go down in history with Bernard King, Derik Queen, Sean Rooks, Brevin Knight, and Gale Bishop.*
* = https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bishoga01.html
(No worse than the second best Warrior ever from Wazzu?).
The Kuminga Gambit looks to be one of the worst openers in NBA contract negotiation history
It does stop your opponent from developing. But, yeah, it doesn’t create advantages for you either. Just kinda wastes time.
I'd prefer Stephon Castle to Sean Rooks even if I'm using incorrect jargon.
Don’t treat me like a pawn when I’m clearly the (drama) queen.
Neither side wants to get rooked.
This is getting a bit stale mate
Bishop, please!
Kerr admitting the team doesn't practice anymore.
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Steve Kerr: "We don't practice anymore. So we have to develop these 19 year old kids who are coming into the league without much practice time...Frankly, I'm not great — I'm an older coach...So I lean on the young [coaches]."
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1mridhd/steve_kerr_we_dont_practice_anymore_so_we_have_to/
I belive this is from Allen Iverson...
"Practice? We're talking practice?"
Do the residents of Mt. Olympus need to practice being gods? I get it.
Seems to be a scheduling gripe. In the clip he talks about how the league schedule does not allow the consecutive days off the way they used to, where they could be getting 4 days off & get 2 practice days in
What's changed with the schedule to make that happen?
I think the reduction in B2Bs have a lot to with this. The average #b2bs has come down from about 19 per team to about 14(compared to early 2010s). Also distractions like the NBA cup. Because of fewer B2Bs, schedule is more evenly spread out compressing practice time?
They took a week out of the preseason schedule to reduce the B2Bs. Late 2010s, if memory serves.
Was the schedule compressed at all when they added the play-in round?
Don't know for sure, but I think you're right. IIRC, the usual end date used to be April 15 or so. I think it's been the 12th the last couple of years.
Good point, Bulls season ‘95-‘96 had 23 B2Bs so that makes sense
Absolutely no idea, he just says in the clip that the scheduling is different from when he played basketball.
Edit: I was curious & looked at the Bulls schedule when Kerr played. Didn’t see a ton of 4 day breaks scanning the schedule so idk.
Kerr’s been on record before that he thinks 82 games is too many given the faster pace of the modern game. Honestly, that would have been my guess on why they don’t do full blown practices/scrimmages. To keep the players from being completely burnt out/decrease the chances of injury during the regular season
Valkyries have made history with the most wins by an expansion team in their inaugural season. The Detroit Shock retains their number 1 record as the expansion team with the best win % in their inaugural season.
What was Detroits’s win %?
GSV is at 55% with 11 games left, so they theoretically could get to 66%.
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DET was 17-13 for a .567 win %. To beat this, GSV would have to finish 25-19. That means they would have to finish the season 7-4, which will be a bit of a challenge, but not impossible.
Speaking of Tatum and his injury, I stumbled across this in Byron Scott's Fast Break podcast. He's talking with longtime Lakers trainer Gary Vitti about why NBA players suffer more injuries today than in past eras. It's pretty interesting stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjTU0xQLdRE
Q Which player has broken the most ankles?
A Steve Kerr.
Motion offense anyone?! We aren't just getting it to the big man to post up anymore people. Space and pace must be a nightmare on the body.
>>>The Miami Heat have traded Haywood Highsmith and a 2032 second-round pick to the Brooklyn Nets for a protected 2026 second-round pick<<<
https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/ebf5d7a78c34e
Houston Rockets posted a schedule reveal video, and it's cringey as hell. Watch if you dare.
https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1mr5pyx/houston_rockets_post_the_worst_schedule_reveal/
Some reactions on Rockets reddit to this video :-)
KD asking for a trade as we speak.
Rebuild year confirmed.
Watching CP3’s hamstring explode in 2018 was easier than watching this.
This is the adversity we needed
That boy ain't right
I would rather go through three game 7 losses to the warriors then watch this shit again
I’d rather live in Dallas than watch that
Maybe we don't deserve a team.
I'd throw a dildo at THIS
And here I thought Ted Cruz coming to games was as bad as it could get.
The only time in my life I actually wished for Draymond Green to kick someone in his nuts
We're going to have to change your handle to: "Servant of Lunacy".
The cringe shall last forever!
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I think that fifth loss against Curry mindbroke them. Maybe we should contract that franchise. You know, put them out of their misery?
I respectfully request that you delete this post. I made it 40 seconds and I think it took weeks off of me. For the love of the Dub Nation Community, take it down.
Yeah, me too. I sacrificed so others would not have to. There's no coming back from watching this. (Full Disclosure: I did not watch the whole thing)
Streisand-effect in full effect, I could not resist and now I cannot unsee...
I've got a sign and trade idea!!
After we sign Kuminga to a 22 million per year deal, we then trade him to the Nets for Haywood Highsmith/Dayron Sharpe whose collective salaries are approximately 11 million (so we should be fine capwise?????).
Highsmith is SF/PF who produced 7 pts on 46% from the field and 38% from deep while also providing some solid rugged defense. He fills a needed swing skillset with his ability to play BOTH at the SF/PF positions while also having previous experience playing alongside Butler.
Sharpe is a pure C who is a bit undersized at 6'9 but is bullish strong and can easily bang around with other bigs at 265 pounds. He is one of the best rebounders in the NBA, an underrated connective passer, moves well laterally and finishes well but is a subpar lob threat which hurts his efficiency (69th percentile offensively), and is a good defender (79th percentile in CRAFTEDDPM) who is a functional shotblocker. Oh and he's had some incredible on-off plus minuses over the last two years (+10 in 2024 and +12 in 2025). He reminds me of Looney.
We get two really solid players at positions of need in exchange for Kuminga. What do y'all think?
Sharpe just signed a new deal so I don't think he can be traded until mid season. Highsmith doesn't thrill me much and his contract is up after the upcoming season so is just a 1 season rental. the best scenario for the Warriors is still to re-sign Kuminga and trading him later even if it means tacking on 1 more year.
What's your prediction for the JK SAGA? (August Edition)
Here's mine: Kuminga returns on a 3yr/60m deal with a player option
At the start of the offseason, I was thinking Kuminga would get 3 years guaranteed, but now I'm predicting Kuminga gets 2 years for 25 mil each with a 3rd year team option and NTC waived. This way Kuminga gets more money guaranteed, but Warriors still have control of him as a trade asset. The bigger salary doesn't hurt the Warriors too much since it can facilitate trades at the deadline for salary matching purposes.
3/60 with a team option on year 3.
JK signs the QO, plays 5 or less mpg, gets outta here next year. Too much water under the bridge.
Nah. Too much money at stake. He'll get out eventually. Might as well get paid.
I don't believe for one second that Kerr would just play JK 5 mpg or anything near that. If he's with the team, he's playing at least 20-25 mpg.
If JK acts out and causes problems on the team (which I doubt he'd do), he could be suspended, or I suppose they could even pay him $7.9M to stay home. But if he's playing at all, he's playing decent minutes.
However, I think if JK signs the QO, he will be motivated to play his ass off to set himself up for free agency next summer.
Oh Kerr definitely showed his hand in the last couple of weeks of the regular season as to how much he'll play JK, which is why I said 5 mins or less. Especially since he'll have a NTC the team is under no obligation to play him, unless of course we have an injury like Steph's or Jimmy's. Here is my projected minutes breakdown(assuming Horford, Melton, GP2 additions)
Steph 31
JB 32
Dray 30
Podz 30
Horford 24
Melton 18
Moody 16
Post 16
GP2 12
Gui. 10
TJD 8
2/3 players share remaining 13 minutes.
I just don't see Kerr doling 20-25 minutes to JK if he takes the QO.
I really hope that Steph, Jimmy B., and Draymond do not average over 30 min. per game.
More important than the average minutes per game is the number of games played. I've got no problem with Steph in the low 30s if he sits out 20% of the games in the regular season. Playing 35 minutes a night for four nights and missing the fifth is a lot easier than playing 28 minutes for five consecutive games - same total minutes but less wear and tear.
Kerr's biggest challenge this year is load management with Steph, JB, Dray, Horford, and possibly Melton. If they can get all of those guys some decent rest and still avoid the play-in, they could be a force in the playoffs.
"Playing 35 minutes a night for four nights and missing the fifth is a lot easier than playing 28 minutes for five consecutive games - same total minutes but less wear and tear."
Not sure I'd agree.
If your legs get tired after 25 or so minutes, pushing the rest of a game to win might be an issue.
We can let the training staff monitor and take care of that.
Totally agree that the "load management' will be crucial, especially early in the season.
I don't believe for 1 second that JK is going to sign a qualifying offer. That's well beyond the Pat McCaw or Latrell Sprewell "player betting on himself" level of stupidity.
I keep telling myself the same thing but at this point I have given up on guessing what JK will sign.
Or is it JK's agent betting on JK?
There's no way the Warriors cave on 3 years in my opinion. I'll say 2 years/45 million but it's all guaranteed.
I could see 3 years if the final year is a team option.
They can't give three years, it would be a huge organizational failure.
I'll say 2/45 and a partial guarantee on the second year. I don't think Kuminga has a ton of leverage.
I also wonder, if Kuminga takes the QO, what's the biggest one year deal the Warriors can give GP2? They might just load up some of these contracts for the new signings to salvage some tradable salaries. They have GP2's Bird Rights, I assume that means there's no limit to what they can pay him other than the self-imposed limits regarding the aprons? Probably why all these guys are patiently waiting.
They will be very reluctant to give him a third year as they really want to clear the books for '27-28. Plus, of course, JK has no leverage.
They have GPII's Bird rights, so the only apron they would have to worry about is the second apron if they sign Horford to a TPMLE. Assuming they do that and go to 15 with vet mins, that's ~24 million* they can split between GPII and JK.
JK takes only 7.9, that leaves 16 mil for GPII if they wanted to be crazy. It's probably just more advantageous to try to stay under the 1st apron if JK takes the QO.
*This is all by memory, so if anyone has actual figures, please correct me.
Maybe I'm missing something obvious but why would the Dubs throw that kind of money at GPII when he's a vet min player at best for every other team in the league?
Loyalty, mostly. It wouldn't shock me if GP2 has gotten some interest from other teams already. But, he's waiting on the Dubs to sort their stuff out.
If JK does take the QO, I expect that the team will give GP2 a more-than-vet-min contract as a reward for waiting (but just a one-year deal ... basically a severance payment).
Kind of blows my mind, but GP2 has been in the league 9 years (only one fewer year than Loon).
He's only had one real contract, though.
It wouldn't be for loyalty purposes, it would be for trade flexibility purposes
To have the salary for trade purposes. I agree though, I don't think more than vet min makes sense.
The salary is only valuable for trade purposes if someone would take GPII in a trade at that value.
Why would it be a huge organizational failure?
Couldn't it be 2 years guaranteed with a team option for the third year?
That's true, could be something like that, I should have said three guaranteed years.
Although if I'm being real, I think a two year deal around 22.5 million with the team option on the second year is needed to artificially generate some trade value for Kuminga, who I don't think has much trade value. I think if it is two fully guaranteed years, the Warriors aren't getting much of anything for him.
Agreed… I think JK’s camp would take the 2 fully guaranteed for 45 mil right now but the dubs FO hasn’t budged. Assuming they don’t want to commit too much money for the 2nd year. I think they bend a little and go with 2 years/38 mil, fully guaranteed.
He takes the QO.
Joe Lacob might cry if it gets to that point
Just bought a couple of tickets for Warriors @ Wizards 3/16. My son goes to school in DC so I’ll be flying out and taking him to the game. My first Warriors game in person since before the We Believe team so I am super stoked!
Where at? I’m a GW alum!
He’s going to AU - got into GDub but he really fell in love with the AU campus. GW’s excellent tho.
I don’t blame him, it’s beautiful up there, especially over by the national cathedral. I’m sure he’ll have a great time! DC’s a great city (current events notwithstanding).
Stay safe. Security at the Mystics game has already been pulling some sketchy shit.
What kinda stuff?
Arena security and police decided they saw someone holding a dildo between their legs (it was a phone). They were yanked out of their seats and questioned by security and police for entire quarter before being allowed back to their seats.
In fairness, it was an easy mistake to make if the phone was vibrating at the time.
"Nine times out of ten it's a spectator's phone, but every once in a while... it's a dildo. Of course it's security policy never to, imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article a dildo, never your dildo."
Thanks. Hopefully things settle down by then…