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If I’m GM (which alone would be awesome hearing “Goofus McPenisbutter” mentioned in public as often as “Bob Meyers” currently is), I’m standing pat unless something too good to be true comes along.

Two main reasons:

1. I think waiting to see if the Minny pick conveys and where it lands makes sense. If it ends up being #4, we sold low. Conversely, if it rolls over to next season unprotected, it might be equally valuable to other teams next year because of the increased certainty that it’s a an actual pick from a team that’s likely to remain shitty.

2. The team still has to figure out what they’ve already got. Is Oubre worth re-signing? Are Paschall, Lee, Poole, Mannion and JTA good enough to be rotation pieces on a contender. Does Wiseman progress enough in the 2nd half that we’re confident that he can be the big center in a triad with Chriss and Looney.

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When was the last time the narrative around a winning team was about developing a young player at the expense of the team?

Don’t young players that get time in winning cultures get that playing time to add to the team’s success?

Historically: The develop Wiseman narrative has a high likelihood of being the end of the Warriors run as a winning franchise if it wins the narrative battle. Even Kobe didn’t start until he could do better than the playoff caliber players he replaced. Does Wiseman deserve more respect than Kobe?

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The problem the Warriors have making a trade is that Wiggins has 2 more years left on his contract. Were it not for that, they could trade Wiggins plus the first round picks for the star player on a rebuilding team (no idea who that would be). The receiving team gets cap relief, 2 first round picks, and their own low pick for being bad (having traded their star player and all). In a parallel universe that makes the Wigins for KAT trade make sense, but the problem with the T-wolves is they would just get back their own early pick and be stuck with Wiggins contract again for 2 more years, plus a bad contract for DLo.

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Trade Proposal: No.

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I don't see how #2 is an overpay. We get a current top 10, +RPM center, and we give up a minus RPM forward, a huge salary, two centers who are not yet, and quite possibly never will be NBA players, and finally someone who someday when Steph and Klay and Dray are old will be not as good as RJ Barrett.

I guess I don't see why the Mavericks would ever this trade.

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The problem with the team having a KD sized hole, is that the plug of the hole needs to be KD-sized. If the Warriors win another championship with Steph, it seems almost certain that Klay will be at the 2 and Dray at the 4. If you believe either no longer can compete at championship level, the talent deficit is just too large to overcome. That leaves the 3 and the 5 as the obvious places to upgrade. And the Dubs really only have 3 trade chips worth much. Wiseman, the 1-20 1st, and the MIN 1st.

I don't see any of LBJ, KD, Giannis, Kawhi, PG13, Tatum, or Brown even semi-plausible. AD, Jokic, Gobert, Embiid are untouchable. That's why the only trades that have really enticed me are the Barnes and KAT ideas. So you have to move to the second level of trade targets? KAT at least gets you an opportunity to have a top 5 center in the next 2-3 years. He's not perfect, but he's Wiseman with his timeline pushed up 5 years. And Barnes gets you the like 15th best SF in the league. If you only have to give up one of Wiseman/Min pick, that may be the best talent upgrade you can get in Steph's prime. The other of the two needs to be a superstar quick or that championship window may be shut.

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What in the world is that Frye/Nance twitter thing, why is Frye hating on Nance?

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Mar 9, 2021Liked by Duby Dub Dubs

Call me change phobic but no to all of the above. Also fire the imaginary assistant who proposed to bring in the unicorn. I thought he was pretty horrible when we played the Mavs.

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Mar 9, 2021Liked by Duby Dub Dubs, Daniel Hardee

I’m still a fan of running this group back with Klay; assuming fans in Chase Centre can insert enough cash flow to pay the luxury tax.

Re-evaluate first third of next season after some time together and see the progress of JW and MIN pick (hopefully). Can always make a trade then.

One caveat on run it back with Klay - Brad gets released to play in a league that can bring the best out in him. Not not make him feel crap about himself...I’m just assuming one would feel crap after hearing all the noise. I would!

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Mar 9, 2021Liked by Duby Dub Dubs

Don't think Bob will pull the trigger on a major move that'll involve prospects like Wiseman or the Minnesota pick during the year but this offseason might be a different story. I know the Warriors are aware of the situation in the NBA with titans like the Lakers/Nets popping up. This current roster even with Klay back will still be an underdog against those teams so I expect something bonkers this offseason. I don't know what though.

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How down is Oladipo’s game? My eyes are taking a much needed respite from all things Rockets and haven’t seen a minute. He was really, really good pre injury. He’d be pretty excellent either along side or staggered with the splash bros. if he were to re-sign. He’s not the shooter that Beal is by any means, but he’s a much, much better defender and a lead ball handler/scorer that would fill many holes.

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Possible trade:

Wiggins + Paschall + 2026 1st (top 5 protected) for HB + Bjelica

We obviously lose out on the future FRP as well as a prospect in Paschall but we get rid of Wiggins and acquire a better player in HB and Bjelica is a good role player. Don't think the Kings do this unless we include more draft compensation though which would be an overpay.

Big trade:

Wiseman + Oubre + Poole + Smiley + Paschall + MIN 2021 FRP + GSW 2026 FRP + whatever else we can give in terms of FRP (don't know if we can trade the 2023 FRP) + pick swaps in all years for KAT.

Even though they probably should, I doubt the Wolves blow it up.

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Trade 1: Like this trade, and would seriously consider it but don't get why Atlanta do this. They're not in any position to be consolidating current assets for future assets because Trae is becoming really good now unless they're flipping future assets for a star. If that's the case, I'd rather cut out the middleman and look to get the star lol.

Trade 2: Overpay of the century.

Trade 3: This one could still happen, but doubt the Mavs don't get better value for Zinger than Wiggins and his negative contract.

Trade 4: Don't see why NOP does this considering Oubre is a rental while Ball is an RFA.

Trade 5: Lmao.

Trade 6: Hell no.

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I’d rather keep Oubre than Wiggins. Similar D, similar shooter, better rebounder, way more energy. Oubre can’t create in iso as well as Wiggins, but that shouldn’t be a role for either and Wiggins isn’ta huge iso threat anyway.

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I don't hate the Wiggins+MIN 1st for Dipo+Tucker trade. Houston gets a secondary scorer and quality defender plus something to base their future on; we get back two guys who very suddenly looked washed after ending up in a kind of shitty situation in Houston. Maybe we lose out on this bet, but I feel like there are good odds that at least one of them rounds back into a contributor. Problem is, if it's Tucker and not Dipo who gets his stride back, we're still in need of a ball handler, and our second unit might be worse than it was before.

All these other suggested trades can go in the trash right now.

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If I'm Myers, I'm standing pat. I want the 2021 Minnesota pick and I want the Dubs own pick (so, what?, don't be in the top 10 of the NBA). I like Wiggins - very good defender, solid offensively. I like Oubre for defense and offense, although I think he's leaving because of cost in the summer. He's just now understanding the system - why trade him for Lonzo? I wouldn't trade for Porzingis, because who needs the injuries. I prefer Oubre over Oladipo because of better defense and rebounding.

What's left? Collins for everybody? No. There's a lot to be said for continuity and players that know the system.

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