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Trade Grab Bag 12. Bradley Beal, Zach Lavine, trading up, out, and into the future

Win Now? At what cost?

Eric Apricot
Jul 23, 2021
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Let’s look at trades being floated around the NBA media landscape. Click through to the tweets to vote, see the vote, and for the original source (not me!) of the different trade ideas.

Bradley Beal

This is the big one. Marcus Thompson is pushing the idea that Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green are pushing the office to get Beal as a Win Now move.

I’m not sure how much new information is there. We know Steph and Dray have said they want help now. This doesn’t necessarily mean they are turning the screws on GSW to get Beal specifically.

Twitter avatar for @ThompsonScribeMarcus Thompson @ThompsonScribe
To date, Bradley Beal has maintained he's staying, but if he decides to leave Washington, sources say the Warriors would have strong interest
Sources: Bradley Beal at top of Warriors’ wishlist should he want out of WashingtonThe Warriors’ top players have made it clear they want a player to help them win now, sources say — and their No. 1 choice is Bradley Beal.theathletic.com

July 23rd 2021

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Given the salary cap, the trade would have to look a lot like this.

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Trade Grab Bag 12.3 GSW gets Bradley Beal Thomas Bryant WAS gets Andrew Wiggins Eric Paschall James Wiseman 2021 #7 2021 #14 2023 GSW 1st Who says no?

July 23rd 2021

I think… WAS says no. But that’s a pretty decent package for a rebuild for a new coach.

Before you, Dubs fan, laugh and say this is too much… maybe to you. But last night, the poll was running 40% DEAL ON, 21% WAS says NO, 32% GSW says NO, which tells me the package is a little too low for WAS since the poll sample is heavily Warriors fans.

Zach Lavine

I had definitely not been thinking about Zach Lavine as a target, but this was creative.

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Trade Grab Bag 12.4 GSW gets Zach LaVine CHI gets Kelly Oubre. Jr. (sign-and-trade) 2021 #7 2021 #14 2022 GSW 1st (unprotected) 2023 GSW 1st pick swap (top-one protection) 2026 GSW 1st (top-10 protection, pending 2024 obligation to Memphis) Who says no?

July 4th 2021

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I think the Bulls believe they are on the way up, so they wouldn’t do this unless LaVine is extorting them in private. And that is a boatload of picks…

Parade For Cade

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Trade Grab Bag 11.1. GSW gets 2021 #1 DET gets James Wiseman 2021 #7 2021 #14 Who says no?

June 25th 2021

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No way DET does this, unless they desperately believe in James Wiseman.

Trading Up

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Trade Grab Bag 11.2 GSW gets 2021 #4 TOR gets 2021 #7 and #14 Who says no?

June 25th 2021

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This might be a fair trade in another draft, but in a conventional wisdom 6 player draft, it is not valuable to have #7.

Curry Reunion

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Trade Grab Bag 11.3 GSW gets Seth Curry PHI gets 2021 #7 (GSW selects for PHI, signs player, then trades after for cap purposes.) Who says no?

June 25th 2021

I think this is maybe a fair trade in the abstract, but I think Seth fills an important role for PHI, and PHI should be going all in to win now.

Wiseman and Penny Reunion

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Trade Grab Bag 12.2. GSW gets 2021 #5 Terrance Ross ORL gets Wiseman Paschall Notes: ORL is rumored to be hiring Penny Hardaway as head coach, and Penny has been Wiseman's mentor for many years. GSW would presumably trade further with some combo of #5, #7, #14. Who says no?

June 29th 2021

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Trade Grab Bag 12.2a GSW gets 2021 #5 Terrance Ross ORL gets Wiseman Paschall 2021 #14 A more generous version of 12.2. Who says no?

June 29th 2021

The first trade was the original offer. I made the second one because 12.2 seemed lopsided. These trades heavily depend on (1) Penny becoming coach and (2) ORL and Penny loving the heck out of Wiseman.

Note: since we polled this, Jahmal Mosley was selected as the new ORL coach, so I’m guessing they won’t be overvaluing James Wiseman any time soon.

Same Time Next Year

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Trade Grab Bag 11.4 GSW gets 2022 SAC 1st (Top 4 protected, becomes 2023 SAC 1st unprotected) SAC gets #14 Who says no?

June 25th 2021

I think SAC wouldn’t want to bet on themselves, but you can’t ever rule things out with the Kings and their flaky owner. For GSW, it makes sense to punt the pick forward, in that there isn’t much room for rookies on a Win Now roster.


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hammystyle
Jul 24, 2021

Add up the salaries of the 7th pick after signing+ Looney + Paschall, Smailagic,

Mulder and GP2 the Warriors could cobble together about 19M in salary. They could get more in there with Damion Lee and JTA but let’s assume those guys are locked in as cheap rotation players.

The Pacers could view the #7 pick + Looney + salary filler as a good return for Turner or Levert.

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DFiB
Jul 24, 2021

So here’s what I don’t get. Paul George was traded for SGA, 3FRP expected to be non lottery, and two pick swaps.

Beal is not as good as George, and I get that SGA is pretty good, but why are we expected to have to give up wiggins, wiseman, two lottery picks in a good draft, and more for Beal? I don’t see it…

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