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Sorry to hear what happened at GSOM, it's really too bad it had to end like that - it was a great companion to the Warriors ups and downs over the years, and lurking and posting were both really fun. But its great to see quickly most people have rebounded (no pun intended) - it'll be great to follow this site as it approaches Full Squad - it'll be Unstoppable, Baby!

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Heading to my first game at Chase! Any recs for food or things I gotta see/try?

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I like the little tamales booth at the base of the pepsi club area on the 3rd level.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Looks like pretty much a pure salary dump of WCS.

Well, now there are minutes for Smailagic,l and cap space for Bowman now?

Now to see if Burks can actually get them assets.

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Well Pick#~56 can turn out to be like Ky Bowman OR can be cherry-on-top trade asset.

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Oh right, Chriss is on a two-way deal. Though Ws might have enough to sign both to minimums?

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Yeah but Bowman should be brought on asap

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Yeah, it's true, Chriss has a good number of days left on his 2-way contract whereas Bowman is basically out?

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Bah, typo in there.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

And WCS is gone to the Mavs!

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Aww man! I was totally for trading him/letting him go. But now I am bit sad. Good luck to WCS. Hopefully he is able to deliver consistent performance in Dallas.

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whew, I don't have to make a video about WCS now

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

2020 2nd round pick back on the menu!

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1220848535282778113

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I hope there's more to this deal.

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I really wanted to see how he played with the full squad. But I am fine with this, seems like it needed to happen. I wish him luck.

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Yeah, I loved his off-court enthusiasm. On-court, I'm not sure he brings more than Chriss does

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I feel kind of sad agreeing with that. I don't know what is about Willie. Sometimes he's a beast, and sometimes he's just standing behind everyone, watching them rebound, or missing gimme layups.

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WC-S makes Adonal 'Hands of Stone' Foyle look like Fred Biletnikoff. I like the trade. Quese is more active.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

they just don't want him on the team next year and can use his slot/salary to add a Chriss that they do.

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Great point on the player option

WCS was for sure taking that

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Should've said Bowman instead of Chriss

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Pacers stats:

Offense:

21 in points scored (109.1)

11 in points in paint (48.4)

17 in fastbreak points (12.4)

16 in offensive efficiency

4 in shooting % !!!!!!!!!!!!! (47.3%)

7 in three point % !!!!!!!! (36.8%)

15 in two point % (52.0%)

28 in off. rebound % (20.8%)

17 in def. rebound % (77.0%)

24 in total rebound % (48.9%)

11 in opponent blocks (4.6)

1 in opponent steals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (6.5)

6 in assists!!!!!!!!!! (22.5)

4 in turnovers!!!!!!!!!!! (12.9)

Defense:

7 in points allowed!!!!!!!! (106.1)

17 in opponent points in paint (48.5)

7 in opponent fastbreak points!!!!!!!! (12.1)

7 in defensive efficiency!!!!!!!!

7 in opponent shooting % !!!!!!!! (44.5%)

4 in opponent three point % !!!!!!!!!!!!! (33.7%)

11 in opponent two point % (51.2%)

11 in blocks (5.2)

23 in steals (6.9)

5 in opponent assists!!!!!!!!!!! (22.9)

21 in opponent turnovers (14.2)

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Interesting on the Pacers defense: they don't get that many steals or force other types of turnovers, and yet their opponents shoot low percentages overall, and get very few assists. Obviously blocks are contributing a little to that, and the low amount of offensive turnovers leading to fastbreaks for their opponents is bound to depress all the stats, but... I guess they just play solid, non-flashy, lockdown D? Sounds like something our current squad will struggle a lot with.

By comparison, with last year's team, I was way more worried about teams that had a lot of steals & opponent turnovers because those are well-known weaknesses of Steph, Dray, and KD.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

"(Should we still do this, LGW family? Let us know.)"

The first place I look for game information had been at GSoM .

Thank you for the information.

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But the "blog buddy" line?

We are looking for new buddies, but other than Clippers, I dont even know where or who to link to.

The non SBN "blogs" tend to be ad-intrusive eye sores but i always really enjoyed cross blog talk

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

I'd say, only link "blog buddies" that you're actually buddies with, for a quasi-professional definition of "buddy". So, SBNation blogs are fine if the people running them are respectful and responsible. Non-SBNation sites would be better, but those will have to come up on a case-by-case basis.

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I like this take.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

I tend to side with not linking, personally. Only because I have this fantasy that you guys are paving a path that other fanbases will follow. But I never really took much part in the cross talk except when other people stopped in to say hi.

Just my two cents...

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

The answer to your question is Yes (No polls I see). I always like to see what the opposing blog buddies have to say.

On a side note, the next few games may be hard to watch.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

I've honestly never seen a team getting as badly abused by bigs as the Warriors are this year.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Well, the Warriors run smallish lineups and don't have the 3pt shooting to run bigs off the floor...

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Exactly. DLo is no where close at punishing bigs as Steph is. March 1st can't come here any sooner.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Ramblin' a bit here on the Warriors bigs, and bigs in general...a hot topic in the league recently is stretch4/stretch5, but as we have seen our the recent few weeks it is the more traditional big that has given us huge trouble. Just this month alone Andre Drummond, Jonas Valanciunas and Nikola Jokic had their way, and we just witnessed Hassan Whiteside and Rudy Gobert in such dominant performances against our front court. We'll see what Myles Turner does tonight. All talk about lack of team scoring aside, and also with the caveat that I like the Warriors front court very much, how do we stop the true bigs from dominating? I am enjoying this season of growth very much, and the Dubs are still a quite entertaining team to watch.

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This is why WCS continues to get so much burn (and the starting nod) - we just don’t have any “beef” down low, or even guys who are legitimately considered a BIG.

It’s a tough issue to solve because the Warriors are constrained by money as well as roster space. We saw it with Zaza, even though he wasn’t one of our objectively best Centers his lineups generally did pretty well because of how well a guy like him fills up the middle. The roster has moved on but I think you’re right that the team is going to need to add some sort of viable solution in the offseason.

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Jan 25, 2020Liked by punk basketball

You have to wonder what options the team has. In terms of "really big dudes" there aren't a lot of free agents who're more promising than WCS, to be honest. I feel like rebounding is the biggest element that big men have been killing the Warriors on, so here's the list of possible upcoming free agents sorted by rebounds per game, with how much money they're currently making.

¹ denotes player option for 2020/21 season

² denotes team option

(DNQ) indicates they didn't qualify for rate stats per Basketball-Reference

RPG rank is among free agents only. TRB/36 rank is among all qualifying players.

RPG Rank. Name: RPG, TRB/36 (TRB/36 rank), Annual Salary (millions)

1. Andre Drummond¹: 15.7, 16.9 (1st), $25.4

2. Hassan Whiteside: 14.0, 16.6 (3rd), $24.6

3. Tristan Thompson: 10.4, 11.9 (22nd), $16.4

4. Derrick Favors: 10.1, 15.1 (DNQ), $18.8

5. Anthony Davis¹: 9.2, 9.6 (48th), $25.4

6. Serge Ibaka: 8.4, 11.3 (29th), $21.6

7. Enes Kanter¹: 8.2, 15.9 (4th), $4.9

8. Dwight Howard: 7.8, 13.9 (12th), $2.6

9. Marvin Bagley III²: 7.5, 10.5 (DNQ), $7.9

10. Montrezl Harrell: 7.2, 9.0 (58th), $6.0

11. Brandon Ingram: 6.6, 6.9 (115th), $6.0

12. JaMychal Green¹: 6.5, 11.0 (34th), $4.9

13. Marc Gasol: 6.4, 8.2 (73rd), $22.6

14. Carmelo Anthony: 6.4, 7.1 (108th), $2.2

15. Dario Saric: 6.3, 9.0 (59th), $2.7

16. Jae Crowder: 6.2, 7.5 (96th), $7.0

17. Willey Cauley-Stein¹: 6.2, 9.8 (46th), $2.2

18. Ian Mahinmi: 6.1, 9.7 (DNQ), $16.0

19. Jabari Parker: 6.0, 8.2 (75th), $6.5

20. Gordon Hayward¹ - 5.9, 6.6 (DNQ), $32.0

Other notable names:

22. JaVale McGee¹ - 5.9, 12.4 (19th) $4.1

25. Aron Baynes - 5.8, 9.0 (57th) $5.3

29. Mason Plumlee - 5.6, 11.5 (26th) $13.7

31. Marquese Chriss - 5.5, 11.2 (30th) $??

So, Dwight Howard and Enes Kanter are the best value for money in terms of rebounds at the moment, but honestly WCS isn't that far behind and there aren't a lot of better alternatives. (Of course, points are probably a bigger impact on these salaries than rebounds.) Nice to see that 'quese is pretty high on the list—he's one of the youngest players in the top 40 or so on a per-36 basis. (That includes players who aren't free agents.)

If you're just looking for centers on a budget, some other players in the same price range as what the Dubs are paying for WCS include Tyson Chandler, Kyle 'Oquinn, Nerlens Noel, Ante Zizic (who??), Jahlil Okafor, Jordan Bell, and Damian Jones. I dunno about you guys, but I think I'd rather take the gamble that the coaches can find ways to get Good Willie Cauley-Stein to show up to more games than to hope one of those players can evolve into the center of the future.

Another option who might be available next year is our good pal(?) Demarcus Cousins. It's hard to imagine the Lakers bringing him back when he's healed while also keeping Howard, McGee, and of course LeBron and AD. But on the other hand, with the lake show paying him $3.5 to sit on the sideline all year, he'll probably still be out of our price range come next offseason.

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Dang, WTF, I finish typing this long justification for how WCS is actually probably still the best bet we've got at center and... we trade him away for a 2nd-round pick??

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still one hell of a post!

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GSWReddit on Twitter has like two tweets recently where WCS analytics are actually not bad on defense. But guys like Jokic are gonna be a problem whether or not we have #FullSquad in future years. 😬

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I am extremely skeptical about WCS being a defensive positive, but I'll take a good look at it

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I was so hopeful heading into the season. He seems to have all the raw materials to build something amazing out of, defensively.

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I'm looking now, and should probably do a full write up on this, but a quick summary:

-He's fantastic at steals, it's a low total (1.1 per game), but his steal rate is in the 96th percentile for Centers

-He's our best shot blocker, per 36. With Chriss a very close second.

-He also features heavily in most of our top five man units, sorted by defensive rating

-Damn. The Warriors only have TWO 5 man units that have played more than 35 minutes and have a net positive impact. WCS is in both of them

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And like that, none of it matters, LOL!

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Slater wrote as much in his recent Five Obs after the Utah game, asked Kerr in the postgame (not sure this link will work in the comments and can’t remember when in the Q&A it is: https://youtu.be/NqhKSYlQmO4 ...It’s gonna be interesting to see how Bob Myers addresses this.

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Jan 24, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Thanks. Can't read the Atlantic piece. My discretionary dollar usually stays in the underground/independent arenas, such being the case here. Also, I just had a early daydream that we swapped WCS for KAT...I must need more coffee.

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Here, this is probably what he was referencing

"• Jonas Valanciunas put up an eye-popping 31 points and 19 rebounds against them last week.

• Hassan Whiteside had 17 points, 21 rebounds and blocked just about everything in sight (six total) on Monday in Portland.

• Rudy Gobert dominated his way to 17 points, 11 rebounds and two blocks in the first half on Wednesday, before cruising in the second half of the blowout, minimizing what could’ve been a mega stat line."

https://theathletic.com/1555460/2020/01/23/five-observations-the-ugliest-warriors-stat-in-this-10-36-slog-of-a-season/

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Sure, LGW has relied on a generous subscription share from a follower since Day One. We try to tweet the juicier insider tidbits. Other than Steph March 1 target there hasn’t been anything that insider-y from them in awhile. They’ll get aggregated anyways by Drew Shiller 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

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So that means AB is here to stay? Also we now have $17M, $1.6M, $1.6M and $2.17M TEs although they can't be combined.

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Ugh bummer, looks like until substack rolls out comment formatting, we will have to quote and url like this

r/Warriors

@GSWReddit

It will be interesting to see where the Warriors priorities lie before the deadline. Get below the Luxury Tax Threshold (shed $3,729,160) or convert the two-ways. Hard to imagine they can get below the tax level without moving Looney, so the latter seems more likely.

4:02 PM · Jan 24, 2020

https://mobile.twitter.com/GSWReddit/status/1220859509645574145

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Do G-League/2-way contracts count towards luxury tax? Either way, moving WCS probably saves Lacob a fair bit more than WCS's $2mil salary on the year.

Sadly, we still have a logjam in the Center/PF tweener area. Between Draymond, Looney, Paschall, Spellman, Smiley, and Quese, I still feel like we probably lose at least one more before the start of next season, probably one of the ones towards the end of it.

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Two-ways don't count toward the cap, so they don't count toward the luxury tax.

And correct, trading away WCS gives the Warriors breathing room under the hard cap -- $2.57 million of space, to be exact. That's theoretically enough to sign both Bowman and Chriss to full contracts.

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Yup, this entire stretch of games has been a game, one day off, and then another game. Got a good break after today though because Dubs don’t play again till Tuesday

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